Seattle minimum-wage hike did nothing for workers

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Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 01, 2016, 04:48:58 PM
The dollar was last year among the strongest it has been in a long time to the point companies like GM were having problems overseas because the strong dollar was making their cars so expensive.

But I agree with your point we need a "moderately strong dollar? maybe a "stable" dollar.

I also agree with putting in real but not suicidal financial contraints the problem is two fold:

1. the nation is so dependent on big government with some 4 MILLION employees drastic cuts would send us into another recession its like heroin we have to wean off SLOWLY (I don't know anything about heroin I'm just making an analogy).

2. right now and for the foreseeable future our nations debt is simply not a problem.  Its not.  Gvt makes the payments easily and CONGRESS has ZERO incentive to make cuts because that will make their constituents mad and vote them out.

so we do need to address that.


Obviously, I went to a state school from a socialist state to be indoctrinated in Marxist Ideology..."From everyone according to their ability to each according to their need."


ah yes, we used to pledge to the flag every day.  All we do in Massachusetts is churn out good socialists.  I guess the jig is up.


by the way, I don't think my view is backwards and the reason I know this is because you felt compelled to come around ever so slightly.  I have learned it pains you to do two things.  one is to agree with anyone with a different view EVEN if you find some common ground!  Which we just had an you don't know how to handle it.

And two, I'm not sure if you have ever laughed except when discharging a full clip from a big gun.


I cant help you with #2 but believe it or not we are closer in thought than you might care to believe.


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"1. the nation is so dependent on big government with some 4 MILLION employees drastic cuts would send us into another recession its like heroin we have to wean off SLOWLY (I don't know anything about heroin I'm just making an analogy)."

I will just jump in to comment on one part of your post. Your point is valid. However, the solution is pretty simple as to how to lessen the impact of reducing the federal workforce. There really is no need to lay off anyone. The existing workforce could be reduced by just letting normal attrition take care of it. That is probably around 10% a year. Secondly, like any business which loses money, no new employees are hired until the enterprise is back to "profitability.
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Minimum Wage Hike 'the Issue in This Campaign'

BY NICHOLAS BALLASY

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2016/07/28/hoyer-minimum-wage-hike-the-issue-in-this-campaign/



Will this issue be more important than immigration, national security or the economy? If the lunatic left has it's way, it will.

Solar

Trump is gullible enough to take the bait and play the leftist narrative if he thinks he can win on the issue.
GOP'e allow the left to set the narrative every election, completely ignoring the demands of the base. One might begin to think Marxists run every election.
Oh wait, they do...
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Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2016, 05:58:25 AM
Trump is gullible enough to take the bait and play the leftist narrative if he thinks he can win on the issue.
GOP'e allow the left to set the narrative every election, completely ignoring the demands of the base. One might begin to think Marxists run every election.
Oh wait, they do...

That's because the issue appeals to the LIV base emotion! Never mind that it might cost them their job.

walkstall

Quote from: tac on August 02, 2016, 06:02:07 AM
That's because the issue appeals to the LIV base emotion! Never mind that it might cost them their job.

WILL cost some of them their jobs. 
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

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Quote from: tac on August 02, 2016, 06:02:07 AM
That's because the issue appeals to the LIV base emotion! Never mind that it might cost them their job.
That's the point, he's stupid enough to think that courting the lib vote might gain him an advantage.
When in fact the left is setting him up for an even bigger failure than he'd have if he'd moved back to the right.
Trump has to be one of the dumbest MF'er to make it this far in a Presidential election, ever.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on August 02, 2016, 04:28:31 AM
"1. the nation is so dependent on big government with some 4 MILLION employees drastic cuts would send us into another recession its like heroin we have to wean off SLOWLY (I don't know anything about heroin I'm just making an analogy)."

I will just jump in to comment on one part of your post. Your point is valid. However, the solution is pretty simple as to how to lessen the impact of reducing the federal workforce. There really is no need to lay off anyone. The existing workforce could be reduced by just letting normal attrition take care of it. That is probably around 10% a year. Secondly, like any business which loses money, no new employees are hired until the enterprise is back to "profitability.


supersal, well said I don't know why on earth we could not cut 10% from every agency except Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA, for 5 years.

That would reduce the size by about 40%.  40% is not insignificant.

We agree!


You are going to have to turn in your card if this happens too often you know.

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taxed

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 03:45:30 PM

supersal, well said I don't know why on earth we could not cut 10% from every agency except Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA, for 5 years.

That would reduce the size by about 40%.  40% is not insignificant.

We agree!


You are going to have to turn in your card if this happens too often you know.


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Can you be a dear and quit spreading the false narrative that when you say something that's correct, we can't agree with you? It's just dishonest.  You're a raging lib on a conservative forum and yet, here you still are posting and haven't been banned.  At some point, maybe you can just quit that BS, or save it for the other forums or whatever?
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Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 03:45:30 PM

supersal, well said I don't know why on earth we could not cut 10% from every agency except Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA, for 5 years.

That would reduce the size by about 40%.  40% is not insignificant.

We agree!


You are going to have to turn in your card if this happens too often you know.

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I hope you realize, this was not just a suggestion or request. "Don't forget Replies #13-#14"
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Steve,SPHR

Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2016, 05:26:39 PM
I hope you realize, this was not just a suggestion or request. "Don't forget Replies #13-#14"


Solar, what????

my posts there stand not sure what you want if you have a question ask it.  otherwise read what I said.

if you want to ban me and throw the white flag do it.

I have worked to find common ground with you to have a friendly back and forth if you think you can bully me you are laughingly mistaken. 


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It can be done.  If you want to.

Steve,SPHR

Quote from: taxed on August 02, 2016, 04:25:41 PM
Can you be a dear and quit spreading the false narrative that when you say something that's correct, we can't agree with you? It's just dishonest.  You're a raging lib on a conservative forum and yet, here you still are posting and haven't been banned.  At some point, maybe you can just quit that BS, or save it for the other forums or whatever?


why do you fear agreement so much?


that is strange to me and it seems to frustrate you to no end.


I have not disrupted this forum I have respected your population I have stayed to a few threads that interest me and apparently interest your population and YOU <gasp> because I have some of the highest views you show.


what is the big deal??  what are you afraid of?  that we might agree on something???


I have found the debate educational and interesting I have not made fun of anyone that is not my intent.

so I ask you stop your charade and do what you want throw the white flag.  if that is what you want,


it is of course Solar and your own board you can of course run it as you like.  however I will not be bullied by anyone making stuff up about me.
"It always seems impossible until it's done."

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It can be done.  If you want to.

Solar

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 05:55:25 PM

why do you fear agreement so much?


that is strange to me and it seems to frustrate you to no end.


I have not disrupted this forum I have respected your population I have stayed to a few threads that interest me and apparently interest your population and YOU <gasp> because I have some of the highest views you show.


what is the big deal??  what are you afraid of?  that we might agree on something???


I have found the debate educational and interesting I have not made fun of anyone that is not my intent.

so I ask you stop your charade and do what you want throw the white flag.  if that is what you want,


it is of course Solar and your own board you can of course run it as you like.  however I will not be bullied by anyone making stuff up about me.
I showed the courtesy of a response to your post, and I expect the same in kind.
You do not set the rules of the forum, but if you can't debate my points, then just maybe this isn't the forum for you.
You know that little rule about backing up a post? Well get off your ass!
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