Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 05:55:25 PM

why do you fear agreement so much?


that is strange to me and it seems to frustrate you to no end.


I have not disrupted this forum I have respected your population I have stayed to a few threads that interest me and apparently interest your population and YOU <gasp> because I have some of the highest views you show.


what is the big deal??  what are you afraid of?  that we might agree on something???


I have found the debate educational and interesting I have not made fun of anyone that is not my intent.

so I ask you stop your charade and do what you want throw the white flag.  if that is what you want,


it is of course Solar and your own board you can of course run it as you like.  however I will not be bullied by anyone making stuff up about me.

If I'm not mistaken, he was calling attention to your BS in claiming victory, because "YOU" agreed with the Conservative principle of cutting taxes.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around that logic. Oh wait, you're a lib 

Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2016, 06:00:40 PM
I showed the courtesy of a response to your post, and I expect the same in kind.
You do not set the rules of the forum, but if you can't debate my points, then just maybe this isn't the forum for you.
You know that little rule about backing up a post? Well get off your ass!

your rule is only enforced on one side.  frankly i'm not sure of the question.  Soros/Koch? something?

I associate Soros politically the same as Koch.  that's my answer.

I have been very honest because facts are vital to everything I do.


but I am no ones monkey.  and you know my history here is exactly as I have described it respectful maybe more so than I have received in return, and honest.

so you are the one calling me out now.  you.  not me.  you.


so make the decision.  stop the BS and let me post as I have or pull the plug.  but stop the charade yourself because you and I know I have done nothing to violate any of the rules here.


I have never had any delusions here.  I came here interested in your view.  and I have always known its always been up to you who stays or who goes.


but if you want me to jump over something that aint happening and you and I both know this has nothing about the truth because I have been 100% truthful even if we have opposing views.


so do what you want.  but don't make up some reason for it.

Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2016, 06:04:06 PM
If I'm not mistaken, he was calling attention to your BS in claiming victory, because "YOU" agreed with the Conservative principle of cutting taxes.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around that logic. Oh wait, you're a lib 

claiming victory because we agree???


I was claiming I was happy we finally agreed my gawd man not everything is a zero sum game.


believe it or not you do need us and we need you to survive.


It was a compliment.


I like Supersal.  I'd propbably like you too if you weren't such a @##R%^ adss wole.

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 05:55:25 PM

why do you fear agreement so much?

I don't.  I'm saying that's you falsely implying that I do.  I asked you to please stop it, because it's dishonest.

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that is strange to me and it seems to frustrate you to no end.

Why would I be frustrated at your false implication?  I'm asking you to quit parroting a lie.  It's more of an etiquette thing.

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I have not disrupted this forum

I never said you did.

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I have respected your population I have stayed to a few threads that interest me and apparently interest your population and YOU <gasp> because I have some of the highest views you show.

We don't get your kind round here too much, so the whole town comes out to look...

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what is the big deal??  what are you afraid of?  that we might agree on something???

You really are into this false "scared to agree" thing. If you say something correct, then you will probably be agreed with.  Again, save the attempt at railing discourse for the other places you post.  It gets boring.

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I have found the debate educational and interesting I have not made fun of anyone that is not my intent.

You are more than welcome to make fun of people.  You really need to loosen up your tie and take a drink.

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so I ask you stop your charade and do what you want throw the white flag.  if that is what you want,

I......... huh?  I just want to talk about minimum wage and expose how you're wrong.  I don't even know why we're here right now.

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it is of course Solar and your own board you can of course run it as you like.  however I will not be bullied by anyone making stuff up about me.

I'm sorry for arguing a conservative position about minimum wage from my perspective as a conservative business owner who has experience in this topic on a conservative internet forum in a thread about this topic.  Can you forgive me?

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 06:14:57 PM

claiming victory because we agree???


I was claiming I was happy we finally agreed my gawd man not everything is a zero sum game.


believe it or not you do need us and we need you to survive.


It was a compliment.


I like Supersal.  I'd propbably like you too if you weren't such a @##R%^ adss wole.

OK, so it's not just me??

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 06:10:38 PM

your rule is only enforced on one side.

Oh bull shit!
When you asked a member to backup their claim, I explained, that regardless of the ignorance of the query, it's a standing rule that it be fulfilled, and he complied as per the rules.
But as you can see, you are being called on the rules you claim to be one sided, which they are not.
I could demand that you prove it, but then, I don't want to give you a timeout for lying.

Quotefrankly i'm not sure of the question.  Soros/Koch? something?

I associate Soros politically the same as Koch.  that's my answer.

And I gave evidence to the contrary, and you still insist on sounding like a fool, so now show proof of your claim, that a communist and a Libertarian are the same.
As shown, Koch is supporting Hillary over Trump.

QuoteI have been very honest because facts are vital to everything I do.

I bet you actually believe that too.

Quotebut I am no ones monkey.  and you know my history here is exactly as I have described it respectful maybe more so than I have received in return, and honest.
so you are the one calling me out now.  you.  not me.  you.

When you're wrong on every subject, you're going to be called on every subject, which is why you were called out!
I responded to your BS claims and you ignored them, that is not how this forum works.
There's a reason you, as a liberal, are always wrong, that's because America has always been a Conservative nation, socially and fiscally, and that's the premise this forum works off of.
So the only way you're ever going to be right, is if you study the Constitution, understand the Bill of Rights and their intention and agree in full with their purpose.

Quoteso make the decision.  stop the BS and let me post as I have or pull the plug.  but stop the charade yourself because you and I know I have done nothing to violate any of the rules here.

Man, you are seriously thick! All I ask is that you respond to crucial points in a post. Is that really all that damned hard?

QuoteI have never had any delusions here.  I came here interested in your view.  and I have always known its always been up to you who stays or who goes.

You're entitled to your own opinions, you're not entitled to your own facts.

Quotebut if you want me to jump over something that aint happening and you and I both know this has nothing about the truth because I have been 100% truthful even if we have opposing views.


so do what you want.  but don't make up some reason for it.

Again, this has nothing to do with your opinions, it has everything to do with facts.
See, in your world, parroting leftist talking points gets you kudos from the LIV, but here, that shit don't fly, we don't take things at face value, which is why, and you may have noticed this, I go into great detail to make my case, unlike you, passing off talking points as fact.
As has been stated, this is a fact based forum, so when you make these erroneous claims, you are going to be called on it, as I have done in the posts you ignored.
That's poor etiquette, and won't be tolerated for long.

Boo, can we get a parrot over here please?

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 06:14:57 PM

claiming victory because we agree???


I was claiming I was happy we finally agreed my gawd man not everything is a zero sum game.


believe it or not you do need us and we need you to survive.


It was a compliment.


I like Supersal.  I'd propbably like you too if you weren't such a @##R%^ adss wole.

Did I not say, "If I'm not mistaken"?
The line that confused me, was...
"You are going to have to turn in your card if this happens too often you know."
He was right, and you agreed with him, why is he the one affected, and not you, for agreeing on a Conservative point?

Now do you see the confusion?

I'm really not an ass, I have always separated business from pleasure, and this is a business with rules that I enforce strictly, just ask the members, but then, they'll tell you I'm an asshole, so never mind....

Quote from: taxed on August 02, 2016, 07:40:09 PM
Boo, can we get a parrot over here please?

Boos parrots are kind of expensive...call birds.
You want the ghetto birds with cracker addictions, they'll work for a saltine.

Why don't we just raise the minimum wage to $100?

Quote from: taxed on August 02, 2016, 07:55:58 PM
Why don't we just raise the minimum wage to $100?

Cheap skate! Ten thousand, and we could all retire in a month.

Quote from: taxed on August 02, 2016, 07:55:58 PM
Why don't we just raise the minimum wage to $100?

Dam, I would only have to work one day a week.   

Quote from: Steve,SPHR on August 02, 2016, 03:45:30 PM

supersal, well said I don't know why on earth we could not cut 10% from every agency except Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA, for 5 years.

That would reduce the size by about 40%.  40% is not insignificant.

We agree!


You are going to have to turn in your card if this happens too often you know.

Just a common sense conservative approach.

Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
Cheap skate! Ten thousand, and we could all retire in a month.

Alright.  Let's reset.


as far as Koch voting for Hillary the latest is not so.

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""The first thing I want to do is correct the rumor that the media keeps stipulating -- and that is that I'm going to probably support Hillary," Koch said to laughs. "That is a blood libel."

"At this point, I can't support either candidate, but I'm certainly not going to support Hillary," he said.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/charles-koch-hillary-clinton-election-2016/index.html

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As far as why don't we raise the wage to $100 the main reason is we don't have to and it would fall under the law of diminishing returns.  The reason "some number" 12, 13, 15 whatever number around there works is because business historically will absorb increases to a certain extent it happens every year COGS go up (rarely down) and business adjusts.  This would be SG&A instead of COGS, just a different column on the income statement.  But the same result business would adjusts.

Now, I have said I don't agree that $15 is the number everywhere, it may make sense in places like New York City, but probably would be onerous in Mississippi where $10 might be more appropriate.  but I have to say $7.25 anywhere is just too low based on COLA from 1968 to today.  So this would in theory provide increased buying power creating consumption, demand, production and resulting jobs, while these increases would (theoretically although we do see it in periods of economic growth)

Those are my facts and data.


Finally, I am not looking to bump this but I feel these are two relevant clarifications.  My time during the day is sporadic which is why its taken me this long, if you want to let this one die I wont respond anymore.


Have a good night.

Quote from: taxed on August 02, 2016, 07:55:58 PM
Why don't we just raise the minimum wage to $100?

Obviously a good question.


As far as why don't we raise the wage to $100 the main reason is we don't have to and it would fall under the law of diminishing returns.  The reason "some number" 12, 13, 15 whatever number around there works is because business historically will absorb increases to a certain extent it happens every year COGS go up (rarely down) and business adjusts.  This would be SG&A instead of COGS, just a different column on the income statement.  But the same result business would adjusts.

Now, I have said I don't agree that $15 is the number everywhere, it may make sense in places like New York City, but probably would be onerous in Mississippi where $10 might be more appropriate.  but I have to say $7.25 anywhere is just too low based on COLA from 1968 to today.  So this would in theory provide increased buying power creating consumption, demand, production and resulting jobs, while these increases would (theoretically although we do see it in periods of economic growth)

Those are my facts and data.

Have a good night.