What’s Up With This Strategy?

Started by WMK, April 19, 2023, 02:41:58 PM

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Don Jr., who has always been one of my favorites of the Trump spokespeople, has now taken the position that Anheuser Busch should not be treated too harshly for  their willingness to exploit pro-transgenderism as a marketing ploy. Moreover, Jr. believes transgenderism is really no big deal, if you're over 18.
 
Added, Donald Trump is now publicly siding with Disney - the quintessential pro-homo/woke corporation - just so he could hurl criticisms at DeSantis. How is this approach helping the conservative cause?

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Real easy. THE TRUMPS ARE BUSINESSMEN, NOT POLITICIANS.  Of course they are going to favor corporations over the Political class whom they have had their issues with over the years in uber corrupt New York City of all places. Look at what is happening to Trump himself, a petty political punk Alvin Bragg is prosecuting persecuting him over supposed BUSINESS VIOLATIONS. Why do you think the Marxists were so adamant about his tax returns? So they could attack his businesses, fine tooth comb every little detail and then turn around and mess with those businesses.

DeSantis feud with Disney is along the same lines. DeSantis is making a bad move & came out with a downright stupid idea putting a Prison Next to a family & Child oriented Theme park...Really Bro?

Here is the deal. In a free market capitalist system, we the consumer get to decide who stays in the money and who doesn't. Budweiser is finding that out, Disney is finding that out with the recent failures at the box office. We the people will decide what happens to these companies and its coming to fruition.
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Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2023, 07:17:35 AMThe article was already posted.

I added Don Jr.s recap and coupled it with Trump's recent siding with Disney to attack DeSantis to ask a perplexing question. Why the sudden softening on wokeism as a means to counter a political opponent?  What kind of strategy is this?

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Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 20, 2023, 06:49:45 AMReal easy. THE TRUMPS ARE BUSINESSMEN, NOT POLITICIANS.  Of course they are going to favor corporations over the Political class whom they have had their issues with over the years in uber corrupt New York City of all places. Look at what is happening to Trump himself, a petty political punk Alvin Bragg is prosecuting persecuting him over supposed BUSINESS VIOLATIONS. Why do you think the Marxists were so adamant about his tax returns? So they could attack his businesses, fine tooth comb every little detail and then turn around and mess with those businesses.

DeSantis feud with Disney is along the same lines. DeSantis is making a bad move & came out with a downright stupid idea putting a Prison Next to a family & Child oriented Theme park...Really Bro?

Here is the deal. In a free market capitalist system, we the consumer get to decide who stays in the money and who doesn't. Budweiser is finding that out, Disney is finding that out with the recent failures at the box office. We the people will decide what happens to these companies and its coming to fruition.

The left should learn that the "Good ol' boys" may talk slow, but they think fast and have power.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

WMK

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 20, 2023, 06:49:45 AMReal easy. THE TRUMPS ARE BUSINESSMEN, NOT POLITICIANS.  Of course they are going to favor corporations over the Political class whom they have had their issues with over the years in uber corrupt New York City of all places. Look at what is happening to Trump himself, a petty political punk Alvin Bragg is prosecuting persecuting him over supposed BUSINESS VIOLATIONS. Why do you think the Marxists were so adamant about his tax returns? So they could attack his businesses, fine tooth comb every little detail and then turn around and mess with those businesses.

DeSantis feud with Disney is along the same lines. DeSantis is making a bad move & came out with a downright stupid idea putting a Prison Next to a family & Child oriented Theme park...Really Bro?

Here is the deal. In a free market capitalist system, we the consumer get to decide who stays in the money and who doesn't. Budweiser is finding that out, Disney is finding that out with the recent failures at the box office. We the people will decide what happens to these companies and its coming to fruition.

Let me just make a simple statement and tell me if you agree.
American people are up against two entities whose combined powers seek to take away their freedoms and destroy their independence. They are, America's Federal Govt. & Large Corporate America.  These are feverishly working hand-in-glove to create a fascist state.

Billy's bayonet

Quote from: WMK on April 20, 2023, 08:26:16 AMLet me just make a simple statement and tell me if you agree.
American people are up against two entities whose combined powers seek to take away their freedoms and destroy their independence. They are, America's Federal Govt. & Large Corporate America.  These are feverishly working hand-in-glove to create a fascist state.

If you amend that to read Certain entities of Large Corporate America and include several State and Local Govts, then I agree.
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WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

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WMK

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 20, 2023, 10:23:38 AMIf you amend that to read Certain entities of Large Corporate America and include several State and Local Govts, then I agree.
Would agree with that amendment.

But it begs another question. Why side with Disney & Anhauser Busch, who're clearly on the side of 'wokeism?'

Solar

Quote from: WMK on April 20, 2023, 10:41:08 AMWould agree with that amendment.

But it begs another question. Why side with Disney & Anhauser Busch, who're clearly on the side of 'wokeism?'

QuoteDonald Trump is now publicly siding with Disney

I suppose you can back that up with a link, where President Trump said that?
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Quote from: WMK on April 20, 2023, 10:41:08 AMWould agree with that amendment.

But it begs another question. Why side with Disney & Anhauser Busch, who're clearly on the side of 'wokeism?'
What I am seeing on Trump's opinion with Disney/DeSantis, is DeSantis underplayed his hand. In no way am I seeing Trump taking up for Disney.

QuoteA day after DeSantis vowed to retaliate against the Mickey Mouse corporation for its supposed "woke" policies, Trump accused the Florida governor of overplaying his hand.

"[DeSantis] is being absolutely destroyed by Disney." Trump wrote on his social media site. "His original P.R. plan fizzled, so now he's going back with a new one in order to save face."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-trashes-desantis-disney-stunt-20230418-2x43pehulndyrbazgehoi65zfa-story.html

QuoteTrump predicted that Disney would respond by scaling back job-boosting investment in the Sunshine State.

"Watch! That would be a killer," Trump added. "This is all so unnecessary, a political STU

QuoteDeSantis launched his feud with Disney months ago after the media giant criticized his signature "Don't Say Gay" law that limits discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in Florida schools.

He used his control of the state legislature to engineer a takeover of a special municipal district that allowed Disney to act as a quasi local government in its home turf near Orlando.

But Disney outflanked him by passing a series of restrictive rules that prevent any major changes for decades.

DeSantis on Monday upped the ante by suggesting he would target Disney for inspections of its rides and even build a new prison near its child-friendly tourism Mecca.

I understand you are in DeSantis's corner. But if you are looking to score points here, this really is a poor choice to use.

WMK

Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2023, 11:04:07 AMI suppose you can back that up with a link, where President Trump said that?
C'mon, Solar, you're better than a'gotcha' type response. No said that's what Trump said. But what many headlines (and you can take your pick) are sayin is the obvious, That Trump chose to criticize DeSantis over Disney.  Are you ok with Disney and their woke policies? Who's more of a threat to American families, DeSantis or Disney's agenda to peddle their 'woke agenda' To kids? 

Solar

Quote from: WMK on April 20, 2023, 12:47:30 PMC'mon, Solar, you're better than a'gotcha' type response. No said that's what Trump said. But what many headlines (and you can take your pick) are sayin is the obvious, That Trump chose to criticize DeSantis over Disney.  Are you ok with Disney and their woke policies? Who's more of a threat to American families, DeSantis or Disney's agenda to peddle their 'woke agenda' To kids?
It wasn't a gotcha, I specifically asked you to prove the President said:

"Donald Trump is now publicly siding with Disney".


As to Disney, DeSantis got caught using politics/Govt in dealing Disney by threatening to build a state prison next to Walt Disney.

Disney pedo aside, is this how you want govt treating private businesses?
You're either for smaller Govt, or you're not. I hate what Disney has done as much as the next guy, but there are many more ways to deal with this shit than using govt as a weapon.
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Quote from: Possum on April 20, 2023, 12:38:53 PMWhat I am seeing on Trump's opinion with Disney/DeSantis, is DeSantis underplayed his hand. In no way am I seeing Trump taking up for Disney.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-trashes-desantis-disney-stunt-20230418-2x43pehulndyrbazgehoi65zfa-story.html

I understand you are in DeSantis's corner. But if you are looking to score points here, this really is a poor choice to use.


Ok, you'll call it political gamesmanship, and I'll call it appeasing the enemy when it serves a political purpose. So, we'll disagree. As for all the current political headlines,I fully expected them and anticipate much more like 'em in the future. This is what it's gonna take to show me DeSantis is no Scott Walker, so I welcome them.

We, see all this through a different political prism. You say DeSantis underplayed his hand, but I say, DeSantis can not only take a setback, but get back up fighting and strike a serious blow back. That's called having the courage of your convictions -keeping in the fight no matter what others think.

Disappointed that you'd think me someone who feels the need to 'go along to get along'. But you don't know me or what credo I live by. So I guess I shouldn't blame you.