Quote from: ldub23 on April 22, 2023, 10:56:13 AMSad to see so many trumpists become woke corporate shills. Trump is the road to massive defeat

WTF are you talking about lib?

Quote from: ldub23 on April 22, 2023, 10:56:13 AMSad to see so many trumpists become woke corporate shills. Trump is the road to massive defeat

Seems to me most all MAGA voters are securely anchored in the belief that NO ONE but Donald Trump can possibly defeat the Democrat opposition. - Past Is Prologue - 

A greater fear I have is that if Trump does not prevail in the primaries, how many MAGA voters would put their support behind the (R) nominee??? 

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 11:58:48 AMSeems to me most all MAGA voters are securely anchored in the belief that NO ONE but Donald Trump can possibly defeat the Democrat opposition. - Past Is Prologue - 

A greater fear I have is that if Trump does not prevail in the primaries, how many MAGA voters would put their support behind the (R) nominee??? 

You just have a crappy attitude about everyone? If we don't jump on the bandwagon for DeSantis, you think we will vote for Biden?? Have you even read all the posts which stated WHY we are for Trump?  Hate to tell you, but we will vote for who we think is best for this country. Period.

Quote from: Possum on April 22, 2023, 12:20:47 PMYou just have a crappy attitude about everyone? If we don't jump on the bandwagon for DeSantis, you think we will vote for Biden?? Have you even read all the posts which stated WHY we are for Trump?  Hate to tell you, but we will vote for who we think is best for this country. Period.

Why be defensive about it? Why also jump to a conclusion no one suggested -MAGA would vote democrat or worse. And I purposely did not mention DeSantis by name because I have no idea if he'll even be around.

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 11:58:48 AMSeems to me most all MAGA voters are securely anchored in the belief that NO ONE but Donald Trump can possibly defeat the Democrat opposition. - Past Is Prologue - 

A greater fear I have is that if Trump does not prevail in the primaries, how many MAGA voters would put their support behind the (R) nominee??? 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html

Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2023, 01:28:03 PMhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html

Yup, he's in the catbird seat, for now.

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 01:08:51 PMWhy be defensive about it? Why also jump to a conclusion no one suggested -MAGA would vote democrat or worse. And I purposely did not mention DeSantis by name because I have no idea if he'll even be around.

I guess when you stated " all MAGA voters are securely anchored in the belief that NO ONE but Donald Trump can possibly defeat the Democrat opposition. - Past Is Prologue - " you were referring to Trump supporters. Obviously I was wrong. Who were you referring to??   

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 02:40:50 PMYup, he's in the catbird seat, for now.

            

Us Trumpers are gonna' just switch to someone else later on?

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 02:40:50 PMYup, he's in the catbird seat, for now.

Not only is Trump in the lead, but if you looked at the chart, DeSantis numbers aren't improving whatsoever.

Quote from: taxed on April 22, 2023, 04:56:38 PM           

Us Trumpers are gonna' just switch to someone else later on?

Depends. Do you speak and act for ALL Trumpers?

Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2023, 07:42:52 PMNot only is Trump in the lead, but if you looked at the chart, DeSantis numbers aren't improving whatsoever.

Yes, it does show a bit of a dichotomy going on. But, Solar, I've been in the political trenches so long fighting uphill battles, that I tend to get nervous whenever things appear to look too good.

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 11:26:27 PMYes, it does show a bit of a dichotomy going on. But, Solar, I've been in the political trenches so long fighting uphill battles, that I tend to get nervous whenever things appear to look too good.

Ehhh, a dichotomy usually falls along an equal division and equating an rather equal separation, this, not so much.

Though, I do concur about winning, or rather, the GOP snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory. But see, that's the beauty of Trump.

Trump is the enemy of the Establishment Uniparty, and that is why his base is unwavering in his support, he is our General in the fight against these commies.

This is why I want you to question DeSantis and why his backers align with the NWO Uniparty, the enemy.

You do see this, Right?

You claim to have been in the "political trenches", then you should be fully aware of this tactical move, like Mitten, McStain, both great talkers, but both sellouts to the base, and this goes back decades.
Yet, here you are falling for it all over again?

Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2023, 06:56:20 AMEhhh, a dichotomy usually falls along an equal division and equating an rather equal separation, this, not so much.

Though, I do concur about winning, or rather, the GOP snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory. But see, that's the beauty of Trump.

Trump is the enemy of the Establishment Uniparty, and that is why his base is unwavering in his support, he is our General in the fight against these commies.

This is why I want you to question DeSantis and why his backers align with the NWO Uniparty, the enemy.

You do see this, Right?

You claim to have been in the "political trenches", then you should be fully aware of this tactical move, like Mitten, McStain, both great talkers, but both sellouts to the base, and this goes back decades.
Yet, here you are falling for it all over again?

I was also taking into account what's being said print along with that chart. But your point is well taken.

There are talkers, then there are doers! That's where the rubber meets the road for me. I disliked both of those senators immensely.

Just curious, do you go along with Trumps general claim, that Fla. is in bad shape under DeSantis?

Quote from: WMK on April 23, 2023, 08:53:53 AMI was also taking into account what's being said print along with that chart. But your point is well taken.

There are talkers, then there are doers! That's where the rubber meets the road for me. I disliked both of those senators immensely.

Just curious, do you go along with Trumps general claim, that Fla. is in bad shape under DeSantis?

Don't know, and I should care, why?

But I see you completely avoided my point about the UNI party using their oldest play in the book, that of pushing one of their own as a better choice.

This is why I pointed out McStain and Mitten, they too were pushed as the only way to stop the left, only in this case, they flipped the narrative, in that they are no longer in a position to bargain.

The base knows quite well what these Marxists are doing in pushing their handpicked candidate in hopes of unseating Trump.

How is it you can't see this? DeSantis is the Establishments last chance to take the Patriots candidate out.
It's blatantly obvious, yet here you are carrying water for these commies, why is that?

Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2023, 09:22:47 AMDon't know, and I should care, why?

But I see you completely avoided my point about the UNI party using their oldest play in the book, that of pushing one of their own as a better choice.

This is why I pointed out McStain and Mitten, they too were pushed as the only way to stop the left, only in this case, they flipped the narrative, in that they are no longer in a position to bargain.

The base knows quite well what these Marxists are doing in pushing their handpicked candidate in hopes of unseating Trump.

How is it you can't see this? DeSantis is the Establishments last chance to take the Patriots candidate out.
It's blatantly obvious, yet here you are carrying water for these commies, why is that?

I "avoided" your point because I see it as nothing more than conjecture - a subjective interpretation and connection of certain dots from past politics and automatically assuming the same applies here.

Your criticism of DeSantis primarily consist of who's backing him, rather than actions he's actually taken to promote and advance leftist ideals. You don't create the kind of national effect DeSantis did on the right by who's backing you. You cause that by dust-ups no one else is willing to have against the enemy and WINNING them.
The "Establishment may indeed be behind DeSantis for their own agenda. But, with me, that a given. Desantis will lead & push his own agenda, not theirs. His governance in Fla. already proved that to me.