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Black suspect In twin cities suburb shot while resisting

Started by Mimsy, April 12, 2021, 05:16:53 AM

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p1tchblack

Quote from: Possum on April 16, 2021, 02:12:03 AM
Again, you are putting all the responsibility for the outcome on the police. It was not the police that made the suspect turn and run, try to get into the car, and try to either escape or to use a weapon. That is all on the suspect. It is the police who is risking his life to do a job, the suspect chooses to risk his life by committing the crime.  Answer this, had the suspect cooperated with the police, would he be alive today?

I'm putting the responsibility of using deadly force when it's appropriate which is when the officer's, or another person's, life is threatened.

What are your thoughts on the Michael Slager shooting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UzGIxQ_Qg




Possum

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 16, 2021, 03:21:49 AM
I'm putting the responsibility of using deadly force when it's appropriate which is when the officer's, or another person's, life is threatened.

What are your thoughts on the Michael Slager shooting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UzGIxQ_Qg
I think the court system will have the opportunity to decide whether the officer is guilty of murder. The system will also have the opportunity to hear all the facts and not make a decision based on a youtube video. But again, had the suspect not resisted arrest this youtube probably would have never made the news. But what are your thoughts? Should we condemn the police based off of one youtube?

p1tchblack

Quote from: Possum on April 16, 2021, 03:56:21 AM
I think the court system will have the opportunity to decide whether the officer is guilty of murder. The system will also have the opportunity to hear all the facts and not make a decision based on a youtube video. But again, had the suspect not resisted arrest this youtube probably would have never made the news. But what are your thoughts? Should we condemn the police based off of one youtube?

What do you think about the shooting?  Justified or not?

Possum

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 16, 2021, 04:12:20 AM
What do you think about the shooting?  Justified or not?
I am not about to make a decision without knowing the facts, did you not get that from my response. Are you willing to condemn the police based off of one youtube.

p1tchblack

Based on what you see in the video, acknowledging that there could be other details that change your opinion, do you think the shooting is justified?

RedGirlinBlueMd

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 16, 2021, 03:21:49 AM
I'm putting the responsibility of using deadly force when it's appropriate which is when the officer's, or another person's, life is threatened.


Do you put any responsibility on the "alleged criminal"?  What about his responsibility?  His choices created the situation.  Do you think anyone choosing to flee from police is unaware that they could end up dead? 

Hoofer

Quote from: Possum on April 16, 2021, 04:14:04 AM
I am not about to make a decision without knowing the facts, did you not get that from my response. Are you willing to condemn the police based off of one youtube.
Why of course, when the Liberal narrative is, "all cops are murders", as the starting template - the cop has to be proven as good as an angel in heaven *then* we need to check their fakebook page (sorry, only criminals get their FB pages scrubbed) - no matter what those Youtube videos show, let's not get carried away!   Facts are not facts for everyone, we're each entitled to our *own* set of facts, like Cops are always guilty first!

I know it sounds confusing, but that's part of being a Marxist, dilute & destroy the meaning of the language.   :rolleyes:
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Possum

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 16, 2021, 04:22:29 AM
Based on what you see in the video, acknowledging that there could be other details that change your opinion, do you think the shooting is justified?
You are really dense, what part of my answer did you not understand? I do not think anyone can make that kind of decision based off one youtube. If you think you can, then that is part of the problem. Good day.

p1tchblack

Quote from: Possum on April 16, 2021, 04:32:58 AM
You are really dense, what part of my answer did you not understand? I do not think anyone can make that kind of decision based off one youtube. If you think you can, then that is part of the problem. Good day.

I'm not asking for a final decision based on youtube.  Neither one of us is a juror, so our opinions mean nothing.  I'm just asking for your opinion on the few minutes of the video that you see.  I mean, certainly you had an opinion when you first watched it, right?  Do you have an issue with sharing that initial opinion?

Possum

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 16, 2021, 04:42:49 AM
I'm not asking for a final decision based on youtube.  Neither one of us is a juror, so our opinions mean nothing.  I'm just asking for your opinion on the few minutes of the video that you see.  I mean, certainly you had an opinion when you first watched it, right?  Do you have an issue with sharing that initial opinion?
Part of the problem is too many people going off half cocked, forming opinions when they do not have all the facts. You posted the video to play "look at the bad cop surly everyone can see what a bad cop he is". I don't play make believe. I will reserve judgement for when all the facts are in. You too should try it. By the way, you never answered my question.

p1tchblack

Quote from: Possum on April 16, 2021, 04:58:54 AM
Part of the problem is too many people going off half cocked, forming opinions when they do not have all the facts. You posted the video to play "look at the bad cop surly everyone can see what a bad cop he is". I don't play make believe. I will reserve judgement for when all the facts are in. You too should try it. By the way, you never answered my question.

No, I'm not going to condemn anyone based on an incomplete youtube video... not that my opinion matters if I did condemn him.  I'm not asking you to play make believe.  I'm not asking you to assume anything or manufacturer anything.  I'm simply asking, based only on what we see in the video, if you think the shooting was justified.

I will say that planting the taser next to the guy, does not paint the officer in a good light.

Solar

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 16, 2021, 03:21:49 AM
I'm putting the responsibility of using deadly force when it's appropriate which is when the officer's, or another person's, life is threatened.

What are your thoughts on the Michael Slager shooting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UzGIxQ_Qg
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p1tchblack

Quote from: Solar on April 16, 2021, 05:15:53 AM
Oh look, someone's moving the goal post. :rolleyes:

Not at all.  I'm not saying these two situations are comparable at all.  I was just curious if there's any acknowledgement of an unacceptable police shooting and this happened to be the one that came to mind.

Mimsy

Democrats really wont be happy until criminals have total free reign over society and law abiding citizens are disarmed and defenseless against their poor little pet criminals. Democrats pretend they care sooooo much about "certain" peoples lives while dancing gleefully on mountains of aborted babies. but boo hoo for the poor little career criminals that make society a living hell for normal people.

These are just two of the reasons I despise Democrats! :cursing:


Possum

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 16, 2021, 05:09:36 AM
No, I'm not going to condemn anyone based on an incomplete youtube video... not that my opinion matters if I did condemn him.  I'm not asking you to play make believe.  I'm not asking you to assume anything or manufacturer anything.  I'm simply asking, based only on what we see in the video, if you think the shooting was justified.

I will say that planting the taser next to the guy, does not paint the officer in a good light.
And I will say again, if you are asking for my opinion, I wish to see more evidence. Period.