Colorado Baker Sued for Refusing Gender Transition Cake

[Sick Of Silence]

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-03-22/colorado-baker-sued-for-refusing-gender-transition-cake

A Colorado baker who won a partial victory at the U.S. Supreme Court in 2018 for refusing to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple is on trial in a lawsuit brought by a transgender lawyer.

She said she called Phillips' Masterpiece Cakeshop to place the order after hearing about the court's announcement because she wanted to find out if he really meant it.

When her lawyer Paula Greisen asked whether the call was a "setup," she said it was not.

Alpha-bet people are bullies. Had no use for a cake, so calls a baker known to not make those kinds of cakes, and sues for it.

This is the definition of a setup. And the leftist government is in on it.

[T Hunt]

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-03-22/colorado-baker-sued-for-refusing-gender-transition-cake

Alpha-bet people are bullies. Had no use for a cake, so calls a baker known to not make those kinds of cakes, and sues for it.

This is the definition of a setup. And the leftist government is in on it.

This is stupid. If he won over the same sex issue he should also win on the trans issue, which is more radical than the homo issue.

[Possum]

This is stupid. If he won over the same sex issue he should also win on the trans issue, which is more radical than the homo issue.

The radical left will use lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit to punish him for sticking to his beliefs. Does not matter if they will lose every one of them. They will not be happy until everyone is rolling in the mud with them.

[ZenMode]

These situations are tough, at least for me.  The libertarian part of my brain says "It's your business. You don't have to serve anyone you don't want to."  While the  practical part of me says "Grow up and do your job. It's a cake. You know how to make cake - it's eggs, flour, sugar etc, just do it and stop being a baby."

[Solar]

Why is this news in the first place?

Forcing people to do something against there belief is getting old.
People getting excited when some commie freak comes in their shop and demands bull shit, and the proceeds to "wrestle with the hog in the Mud", is just as bad as the commie freak.

Make them the worst piece of shit ever, then sue them, when they refuse to pay.
This whole cake baking shit is getting ridiculous!

[Possum]

These situations are tough, at least for me.  The libertarian part of my brain says "It's your business. You don't have to serve anyone you don't want to."  While the  practical part of me says "Grow up and do your job. It's a cake. You know how to make cake - it's eggs, flour, sugar etc, just do it and stop being a baby."

If it was just selling a cake, no problem as he made cakes and they were out for purchase. He never refused to sell them a cake. Here is where the SCOTUS had a problem, they asked him to decorate the cake in a way that he did not believe in. Here is an example you might understand, I doubt if you will answer back, but you might understand. Lets say you walk into a cake shop, owned by a black family, you are dressed in a white hood and pointed little white cap. You ask the black family to bake you a huge cake with KKK written on it and the picture of a burning cross decorating it. The SCOTUS has said YOU CAN NOT FORSE SOMEONE TO PROVIDE A PERSONAL SERVICE. Now the SCOTUS has said you have a right to buy one of the cakes there in the shop, but YOU HAVE NOT RIGHT TO FORSE ANYOINE TO DO ANYTHING. Now, Zen, you have a very hard time understanding what is reality, I'm guessing from too much CNN, but even you should be able to understand what is going on here. Now, would you tell the black family to stop acting like a baby?

[ZenMode]

If it was just selling a cake, no problem as he made cakes and they were out for purchase. He never refused to sell them a cake. Here is where the SCOTUS had a problem, they asked him to decorate the cake in a way that he did not believe in. Here is an example you might understand, I doubt if you will answer back, but you might understand. Lets say you walk into a cake shop, owned by a black family, you are dressed in a white hood and pointed little white cap. You ask the black family to bake you a huge cake with KKK written on it and the picture of a burning cross decorating it. The SCOTUS has said YOU CAN NOT FORSE SOMEONE TO PROVIDE A PERSONAL SERVICE. Now the SCOTUS has said you have a right to buy one of the cakes there in the shop, but YOU HAVE NOT RIGHT TO FORSE ANYOINE TO DO ANYTHING. Now, Zen, you have a very hard time understanding what is reality, I'm guessing from too much CNN, but even you should be able to understand what is going on here. Now, would you tell the black family to stop acting like a baby?

Why?  Because "do your job".  If you make cakes and have the ability to design the cake as requested, then why not do it?  Leave your feelings and politics at home and do your job.  If I'm a chef, I may find a well-done steak to be blasphemous. Does that mean I don't make a steak well-done if a customer requests it?  Of course not.  My job is my job and I do it to the best of my ability.

This is a work day.  Not "bring your problems to work" day. 

[Solar]

Why?  Because "do your job".  If you make cakes and have the ability to design the cake as requested, then why not do it?  Leave your feelings and politics at home and do your job.  If I'm a chef, I may find a well-done steak to be blasphemous. Does that mean I don't make a steak well-done if a customer requests it?  Of course not.  My job is my job and I do it to the best of my ability.

This is a work day.  Not "bring your problems to work" day. 

Funny you would try and use a chef and steak.
When I was a kid, probably 1962, my dads friend took us all to a really nice restaurant.

There was an older guy and a lady sitting a table away, guy ordered a steak, waitress brings their order and he asks for ketchup, she say's the chef does not like ketchup, customer gets mad.

She tells the chef, he comes out and asked if there was a problem with the steak, the guy says, I don't know until I put ketchup on it.
Long story short, the chef kicks them out and tells them never come back!

This was a perfect lesson for me as a kid, it had all kinds of lessons in it.

Point being, he kicked the guy out for insulting him in his own establishment, a steak house noted for its steaks.

See if you can find the lesson in there.

[ZenMode]

Funny you would try and use a chef and steak.
When I was a kid, probably 1962, my dads friend took us all to a really nice restaurant.

There was an older guy and a lady sitting a table away, guy ordered a steak, waitress brings their order and he asks for ketchup, she say's the chef does not like ketchup, customer gets mad.

She tells the chef, he comes out and asked if there was a problem with the steak, the guy says, I don't know until I put ketchup on it.
Long story short, the chef kicks them out and tells them never come back!

This was a perfect lesson for me as a kid, it had all kinds of lessons in it.

Point being, he kicked the guy out for insulting him in his own establishment, a steak house noted for its steaks.

See if you can find the lesson in there.

It's absolutely his right to kick anyone out of his restaurant, for any reason. 

As a business owner and alleged professional, it's also childish.

[Solar]

It's absolutely his right to kick anyone out of his restaurant, for any reason. 

As a business owner and alleged professional, it's also childish.

But did you find a lessonhere?

[T Hunt]

These situations are tough, at least for me.  The libertarian part of my brain says "It's your business. You don't have to serve anyone you don't want to."  While the  practical part of me says "Grow up and do your job. It's a cake. You know how to make cake - it's eggs, flour, sugar etc, just do it and stop being a baby."

But how is the fight against atheism being a baby?
Atheism is a very dangerous ideology which has caused the deaths of millions in the 20th century alone.
There is a reason the christian deist founders made this a christian nation.

Or what about the fight against normalizing mental illness? Tranny being trannies hurt themselves more than anyone, despite being a danger to all around them. By refusing to bake the cake the baker is demonstrating love.

Sounds like this baker knew the stakes of the slippery slope that the left is always trying to slide down.
I mean in reality you could say to the tranny, "go somewhere else and stop being a baby by throwing a temper tantrum that not everyone obeys."

[T Hunt]

Why?  Because "do your job".  If you make cakes and have the ability to design the cake as requested, then why not do it?  Leave your feelings and politics at home and do your job.  If I'm a chef, I may find a well-done steak to be blasphemous. Does that mean I don't make a steak well-done if a customer requests it?  Of course not.  My job is my job and I do it to the best of my ability.

This is a work day.  Not "bring your problems to work" day. 

       So you would support the baker being forced to bake a special cake with ALL NIGGERS MUST DIE written on it. Or a HITLER WAS RIGHT cake. So according to you morality is an at home problem. 

Might wanna tell that to all those ESG social credit score companies the left is always defending.

[T Hunt]

Funny you would try and use a chef and steak.
When I was a kid, probably 1962, my dads friend took us all to a really nice restaurant.

There was an older guy and a lady sitting a table away, guy ordered a steak, waitress brings their order and he asks for ketchup, she say's the chef does not like ketchup, customer gets mad.

She tells the chef, he comes out and asked if there was a problem with the steak, the guy says, I don't know until I put ketchup on it.
Long story short, the chef kicks them out and tells them never come back!

This was a perfect lesson for me as a kid, it had all kinds of lessons in it.

Point being, he kicked the guy out for insulting him in his own establishment, a steak house noted for its steaks.

See if you can find the lesson in there.

I would never eat a steak without katchup        steak lover hate me, I know. So I would prbly not go back to that place but if that guy loves steak and think katchup ruins it he has the right to run that kind of place and ill bet he does a good business to cuz most people are not like me regarding steaks and I recognize that.

A business owner is supposed to have alot more freedom to do things his own way then they have today in modern america. As far as im concerned you should let businesses be racist too if they want to be, that way everyone will know who the racists are. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

[ZenMode]

      So you would support the baker being forced to bake a special cake with ALL NIGGERS MUST DIE written on it. Or a HITLER WAS RIGHT cake. So according to you morality is an at home problem. 

Might wanna tell that to all those ESG social credit score companies the left is always defending.

Nope, I don't want anyone forced to do anything.  I support the right of a business to deny service to anyone for any reason.  However, I think personal beliefs, politics etc should be kept out of business.  Part of being an adult in the business world, is being able to deal with difficult situations and difficult people professionally.  Again, there's no magical ingredients in a wedding cake for a gay wedding.  There is literally NOTHING preventing a Christian baker from making the cake except feelings.  Hence the "grow up".

[T Hunt]

It's absolutely his right to kick anyone out of his restaurant, for any reason. 

As a business owner and alleged professional, it's also childish.

Whats childish about that? If I was you I would say thats just your opinion but even opinions need to be backed up with facts, so what about that is childish?