Quote from: ZenMode on December 19, 2022, 05:53:13 AM"nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

That means laws can't be applied differently. The government can't apply laws differently to Jews than Christians or whites to blacks.

Why do you believe that some Christians, a minority at this point,  get to define marriage for the all religions and all people in the entire country?

But just a few posts back you were all in favor of getting the government out of marriage and letting the church marry who they wanted? Do you have any idea of what you are arguing about?       

Quote from: Possum on December 19, 2022, 06:09:58 AMBut just a few posts back you were all in favor of getting the government out of marriage and letting the church marry who they wanted? Do you have any idea of what you are arguing about?     

I still am 100% in favor of that, but that idea has been shutdown because a minority of Christians believe they should be able to force their definition of marriage on everyone, and use the government as its enforcer.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 19, 2022, 06:13:13 AMI still am 100% in favor of that, but that idea has been shutdown because a minority of Christians believe they should be able to force their definition of marriage on everyone, and use the government as its enforcer.

And where is that taking place? Is there a state where two girls can not as you said "two girls having their relationship legally recognized by the state"? Are you having a debate with others on this forum, or with yourself? You keep saying the church changed the definition of marriage, I have supplied you with the church's definition sent by God that goes all they way back to the beginning of Genesis. If the church changed the definition, show what the first definition was.

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Quote from: Possum on December 19, 2022, 06:09:58 AMBut just a few posts back you were all in favor of getting the government out of marriage and letting the church marry who they wanted? Do you have any idea of what you are arguing about?     

He's stuck in his own little circle jerk.
I think it's time to shut this nonsense down. What do You think?

Quote from: Possum on December 19, 2022, 06:25:21 AMAnd where is that taking place? Is there a state where two girls can not as you said "two girls having their relationship legally recognized by the state"? Are you having a debate with others on this forum, or with yourself? You keep saying the church changed the definition of marriage, I have supplied you with the church's definition sent by God that goes all they way back to the beginning of Genesis. If the church changed the definition, show what the first definition was.

I'm not saying it's taking place anywhere. We are discussing how we want would like it to be.

I would like to remove government from the religious institution of marriage and give it entirely to churches to define along with the power to deny, if they choose.

You, Solar and T Hunt apparently want a minority of Christians to define marriage for all Americans and force Americans to meet your criteria for marriage before being able to be legally married.

It's clear that we are not going to agree, so there's no reason to continue beating this dead horse.

Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2022, 07:23:27 AMHe's stuck in his own little circle jerk.
I think it's time to shut this nonsense down. What do You think?

I think it should be handled the same way the roadrunner handled the coyote.
                              KABLOOEY

Too bad. The forum needs different view points, but this guy argues against himself. 

Quote from: Possum on December 19, 2022, 12:32:40 PMI think it should be handled the same way the roadrunner handled the coyote.
                              KABLOOEY

Too bad. The forum needs different view points, but this guy argues against himself. 

Done!