Ukraine Russia conflict

Started by patentlymn, May 26, 2025, 01:47:48 PM

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Yet there are still too many stupid people who think this war is all about Ukrainian sovereignty.  :glare:


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Early n in this conflict I concluded that the RU govt almost never lies and the Kiev faction lies all the time. They make up things all the time. They recently said that Russia kidnapped 19,000 Ukrainian children.

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929839594712789455
🇺🇦🇷🇺 KIDNAPPED CHILDREN:

Ukraine: "Russia kidnapped 19,000 children. It's a genocide help"

Russia: "Give us the list of children you are missing and we return them. Our child protection services evacuated children from the war zone who lost contact with their family"

Ukraine: "Here's the list of missing children. 339 names on it return them!"

Russia: "Didn't you scream genocide and said 19,00 children are missing?"

Ukraine: ...

Russia: "So that's it, just like that?"

Ukraine: ...

Russia: "By the way you returned 20 Russian children, we need the west too"


https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929553735434277291
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929551242939748620

The whole idea of Russians kidnapping children is stupid and fabricared lie... I can't imagine Russian soldiers going behind combat lines to Ukrainian side to take children. If Russians already controlled territory and for some reason civilians were still in combat zone, it makes perfect sense to evacuate them. The real question is why Ukrainians didn't evacuate them in the first place? My bet is that these will be children with some relatives in Western Ukraine. Ukraine didn't care about them until it became convenient. And cinsidering fact that 1 million Russian speaking Ukrainians fled to Russia, majority of these kids will be probably with one or two parents. So as always, it is Ukrainian lie...



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So Germany did not say they will send taurus long range missiles to Ukraine. Now this. How stupid do they think Russia is?

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1930249519729459706
Germany just can't wait to get some...

'Umerov and I agreed that Germany will finance the production of long-range weapons in Ukraine. The first systems could be put into service by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in a few weeks' – Pistorius

Parrhesia
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Jun 4
So Ukraine is an assembly point when a single screw gets turned in a pre-assembled missile and that will constitute "production". They must think we're stupid.

Brad
@radu_brad
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Jun 4
Yes, sure...they try to have "Ukrainian manufacture" story as cover for the long range missiles they are going manufacture in Germany and send it to the cockhead

https://x.com/PlJonson/status/1859901430083223981
Sweden will soon contribute substantial funds to make Ukraine able to mass produce Ukrainian long-range missiles and long range drones. Presented the news with 🇺🇦 defence minister Rustem Umerov at Karlberg Castle today. (1/4)
 Nov 22, 2024
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https://x.com/peacemaket71/status/1930644746629685451
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Once upon a time, before he was manipulated, he spoke differently.. Archive video ..

◾‼️ Vladimir Zelensky revealed what language he wants to communicate in..

"I want us all to speak exactly the same language: that's exactly how we speak now," the Ukrainian actor said in Russian.

💬 Just a few years ago, Zelensky spoke out in support of the Russian language and declared that Ukrainians and Russians have a common origin. But then, when he came to power, he began to say and do everything that his Western curators asked him to do. And his conscience no longer bothered him.





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A summary of the recent Ukrainian attacks.

Ukraine used shipping/trucking containers to launch many small drones to attack some nuclear capable bombers in Russia including in the Russian far east. The truckers were likely clueless and just delivered the containers to a location. The roofs retracted and the drones lunched. Many containers failed. The bombers were also used to deliver non nuclear weapons. This likely required US cooperation and said to take 18 month to plan.

Attacking nuclear capable bombers with even non-nuclear weapons violates the START treaty and established practices.Ukraine and UK did not sign START I am told. The START treaties require these bombers to be out on the open not in shelters. Russians do not consider this terrorism but are pissed for the START treaty reasons.

Ukraine also blew up some bridges inside Russia proper including dropping one on a civilian train passing underneath. Ukraine has means to do this using remote video monitoring. Russians consider this terrorism. Kiev has been targeting civilians inside Donbass and inside Russian proper before. Kiev has been attacking civilians inside Donbass since 2014.




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https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929630054398808239
WSJ forbid its journalist to interview the Russian delegation in Istanbul.

The Russian position remains forbidden in the msm

patentlymn



Did Ukrainian people want to join NATO? Around 2008 not really.
Lots of links provided.
https://youtu.be/z1WResi3p-U?t=467
 Zelensky's Provocations Are DESIGNED To Drag NATO Into The WAR
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Lots of referendums over time at link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_Ukraine




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Quote from: patentlymn on June 07, 2025, 11:22:18 AMDid Ukrainian people want to join NATO? Around 2008 not really.
Lots of links provided.
https://youtu.be/z1WResi3p-U?t=467
 Zelensky's Provocations Are DESIGNED To Drag NATO Into The WAR
Sebastian Sas
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Lots of referendums over time at link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_Ukraine




Sorry, WIKI is not a reliable source, Ever.
I can't even trust their periodic table. :biggrin:
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Quote from: Solar on June 07, 2025, 12:55:19 PMSorry, WIKI is not a reliable source, Ever.
I can't even trust their periodic table. :biggrin:

It was a list of links to various referendums. It was likely OK.

Solar

Quote from: patentlymn on June 07, 2025, 02:11:13 PMIt was a list of links to various referendums. It was likely OK.
Point is, Wiki is a leftist owned operation moderated by Marxists. Nothing from Wiki cane ever be trusted.
Even wiki admits as much.
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https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931439520526045677
UKRAINE REFUSED TO RECEIVE 6000 UKRAINIAN BODIES.

So Russia started publishing the names of the Ukrainian soldiers.

Sad way for relatives to find out that their son, husband or father died.


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Also zelensky previously only admitted to 30,000 dead only ... but the Russia just gives them 6,000 at once? Makes him look not credible
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Ukraine reportedly refuses to accept 6,000 bodies, possibly to avoid $2.2 billion in compensation payouts per a 2025 RT report citing Ukrainian law entitling families to $360,000 per soldier.


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This is an old story. Some French reporter Mr. Adrien Bocquet reported on what he saw at Bucha. He saw the bodies being staged. there is a lot more than this but this link just popped up for me. Bucha was the site of civilians killed, Kiev blamed Russia.

I recall after his report Kiev put a price on his head and two guys tried to collect in Istanbul.They came with knives but he survived and ended up in the hospital. 

https://x.com/UNIT_Diplomat/status/1930767324975444446
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Bucha, Ukraine.
Ukrainian Bodies from the Eastern Front of Ukraine, were used to stage a massacre.
Timing-
Coincident with Istanbul Agreement Initialed by Ukraine and Russia.

Testimonial Evidence 01- UNIT.

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This guy Alex Krainer mentions project Alchemy, a project in 2022 to keep the Ukr war going to prevent Ukr from agreeing to a peace proposal. UK has had  hatred for RU going back to around 1840. At 20:10 below

https://youtu.be/a-vDdXZerJk?t=1206

Grok says
Yes, there are references to a "Project Alchemy" related to Ukraine, primarily from leaked documents reported by The Grayzone. These documents suggest that Project Alchemy was a covert initiative formed by the British Ministry of Defence in February 2022, shortly after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Led by Lieutenant General Charlie Stickland, it involved British military and intelligence veterans aiming to prolong the Ukraine-Russia conflict through various means, including sabotage, cyberattacks, and propaganda. The project allegedly sought to "keep Ukraine fighting" by imposing strategic costs on Russia, with tactics ranging from targeting infrastructure like the Kerch Bridge to creating a Gladio-style Ukrainian partisan force for sabotage and terrorism behind enemy lines. It also reportedly included plans to suppress dissenting media outlets, such as The Grayzone, through legal harassment. Some sources claim these efforts stretched legal boundaries, with proposals to "creatively use the law" to achieve objectives.

Yes, a document titled "Ukraine's Next Chapter – Elders Grand Strategy Options Paper" is explicitly mentioned in reports about Project Alchemy, a covert British military-intelligence initiative launched in February 2022 under Lieutenant General Charlie Stickland. According to leaked files reported by The Grayzone, this document was produced by Project Alchemy and outlined strategies to prolong the Ukraine-Russia conflict. It was attributed to "The Elders," described as a group of "Fusion players" with ties to the British military, including academics and defense industry figures. The paper allegedly argued that a prolonged war would weaken Russia's global standing, asserting that "a long war against a small state makes [Putin] look a fool" and could lead to a "palace coup" in the Kremlin. It proposed tactics like targeting the Kerch Bridge, training Ukrainian partisans for sabotage, and escalating covert operations to impose "strategic dilemmas, costs, and frictions" on Russia.







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Alex Krainer says something creepy at 26:20 below. The recent attacks on the RU bombers could have done much more harm if done to refineries, water sources, etc. Why the bombers? That satisfied triggering the RU doctrine to trigger nuclear war. Attacking a leg of the nuclear triad with even non-nuclear weapons could start a nuclear war.

26:20 to 28:00. Scary. This was not done even during the cold war.
https://youtu.be/a-vDdXZerJk?t=1582

At 31:00 all wars are bankers wars? Liz Truss said the Bank of England had all the power, not her.
https://youtu.be/a-vDdXZerJk?t=1827





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Video clip of refrigerator truck with bodies.

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931331395097391486
Ukraine does not want to pick up its dead!

Ukrainian delegation STILL not at exchange location — Kiev hasn't set date, nor handed over list of POWs

Lieutenant General Zorin confirms 1st batch of Ukrainian soldier bodies ARRIVED on site

-> This would bankrupt zelensky, as will need pay compensation to the relatives