I have been following this conflict more than previous conflicts. mostly through telegram posts and videos as most western media did not allow such coverage. This bottom up coverage was different from that provided by the MSM.
I recently ordered two books on the history.
My impression is that the RU MOD says very little.
RU seems to be honest as they want to be taken seriously.
"Russians don't bluff."
RU lies by omission and under reports bad news.
RU accurately reports their own deaths but may over report enemy deaths.
Reports on RU military goals are almost always created by the west. RU shuts up about this.
RU does not have killing civilians as a stated goal. Kiev does state such goals.
RU does not hate the Ukrainians but viewed them a fellow Slavs gone crazy.
RU views RU and Ukr as one people. Zelensky even campaigned on this. Kiev thinks Ukr are a separate people.
Kiev lies constantly for PR purposes as they are never challenged. E.g. there were maybe 20M Ukrainian language books in existence. Another source said 100M. Kiev claims RU destroyed 200M of these in 1000 libraries.
If RU fought the way the US fought Kiev would be rubble. From imperfect memory, RU recently launched around 200 drones and rockets and Kiev reported 14 people killed. I wondered why Kiev did not exaggerate the number.
If only 14 people killed with 200 drones/rockets then RU is not trying to kill people. RU often states what their attack goals are.
https://x.com/generalkellogg/status/1926674287819133204
This is Kyiv. The indiscriminate killing of women and children at night in their homes is a clear violation of the 1977 Geneva Peace Protocols designed to protect innocents. These attacks are shameful. Stop the killing. Ceasefire now.
Is Gen Kellogg serious?Libya Syria, Iraq, Gaza.
Here are some maps I found over time. They are as good as any in explaining the split in Ukraine.
When I first paid attention to Ukraine I noted that the Kiev faction IDed as a separate ethnic group from Russians. The Kiev faction said they wanted to drive the "Russians" off their sacred land in the Donbass even though they were then Ukrainian citizens. When the orphans from Donbass were adopted into Russia, Kiev said they were kidnapped "Ukrainians."
I think that the ethnicity of a person in Ukraine is self reported and/or hand written on their birth certificate as I have seen. It seems that Russian is a big city language and the language of an empire with lots of readers and speakers. Ukrainian is a rural/agrarian language. It is said that Ukrainian was almost never heard in Kiev 30 years ago.
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Ethnolingusitic_map_of_ukraine.png/1024px-Ethnolingusitic_map_of_ukraine.png
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Ethnolingusitic_map_of_ukraine.png/1024px-Ethnolingusitic_map_of_ukraine.png)
https://preview.redd.it/bd05nv6qd6k81.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6e0529b8aadf386dbcddadcd748ce6baea3b0fa1
(https://preview.redd.it/bd05nv6qd6k81.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6e0529b8aadf386dbcddadcd748ce6baea3b0fa1)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/UkraineNativeLanguagesCensus2001detailed-en.png/1024px-UkraineNativeLanguagesCensus2001detailed-en.png
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/UkraineNativeLanguagesCensus2001detailed-en.png/1024px-UkraineNativeLanguagesCensus2001detailed-en.png)
https://blogs-images.forbes.com/realspin/files/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-13-at-2.50.02-AM.jpg
(https://blogs-images.forbes.com/realspin/files/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-13-at-2.50.02-AM.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Ukraine
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/the-ethnicities-of-ukraine-are-united/
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The media has repeatedly shown this map by dividing Ukraine into South-East Russian speakers and North-West Ukrainian speakers. The source of this map is the 2001 census. It is important to remember that, when the census was conducted, every Ukrainian was asked to identify his "mother tongue." Around 68% of Ukrainians answered "Ukrainian" and about 30% of Ukrainians answered "Russian." By the way, Ukrainians who identified themselves as ethnic Russians constituted only 17% of the population.
[The map below is suspect as the self ID of "Ukrainian" was tiny in 1914]
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1g7fdq5/ethnic_map_of_ukraine_1914/
(https://i.redd.it/u12688n3brvd1.png)
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1bgahji/ethnographical_map_of_ukraine_first_half_of_20th/
https://i.redd.it/dfzwyc6m7qoc1.jpeg
(https://i.redd.it/dfzwyc6m7qoc1.jpeg)
Maybe propagnda map.
Judging by the top right label, it was published in Molode Zyttja, Ukrainian magazine from West Germany after WWII. It seems that the nationality borders are indicated according to pre-1917 censuses, judging by the large Ukrainian expansion to the east and the presence of Germans in the Volga region. The cities are also named by pre-1917 names, so this is either a historical map or a propaganda one.
By the way, V. Kubijovyc, indicated as the author of the map, was a founder of the SS Galicia division. M. Kulyckyj was a Ukrainian cartographer who immigrated to Germany at the beginning of WWII.
Any chance of an English translation of the ethnicities?
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1st column
Ukrainians
Polonized and Slovakized Ukrainians
Russians
Belarusians
Poles
Slovaks and Czechs
Bulgarians
Serbs
Germans
2nd column
Romanians
Greeks
Armenians
Lithuanians
Ossetians
Circassians
Estonians
Mordvins
Hungarians
3rd column
Tatars
Chuvashs
Kazakhs
Nogais
Kumyks
Chechens
Balkars
Turkmens
Kalmyks
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/02/world/ukraine-divided/
Ukrainian is the official language, spoken by 70% of the country's population. Russian is also spoken widely and is the mother tongue of many Ukrainians, especially in the east and in the southern region of Crimea, where ethnic Russians are in the majority. Violent protests broke out in the Crimean capital of Simferopol on February 27, against the new order set in motion a week earlier amid mass demonstrations in the country capital of Kiev. Crimea is a bastion of support for ousted President Yanukovych and is also home to Russia's Black Sea naval fleet, based at Sevastopol.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/interactive/2014/02/world/ukraine-divided/media/ukraine_map_region_language.jpg
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnn%2Finteractive%2F2014%2F02%2Fworld%2Fukraine-divided%2Fmedia%2Fukraine_map_region_language.jpg&hash=83d7c8acebd03c5237ef1455ce3b9585788b110d)
2010 presidential elections
A contentious election in 2010 saw pro-Russia candidate and former Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych win with narrow margins over Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. Yanukovych won with strong support in the Eastern regions, with most regions in the West favoring Tymoshenko.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/interactive/2014/02/world/ukraine-divided/media/ukraine_map_region_vote.jpg
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnn%2Finteractive%2F2014%2F02%2Fworld%2Fukraine-divided%2Fmedia%2Fukraine_map_region_vote.jpg&hash=6d368078b6e20bc053e2331581bdd0e9346448ae)
https://geovisualist.com/2013/12/09/regional-differences-in-ethnicity-and-language-in-ukraine/
https://i0.wp.com/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Russians_Ukraine_2001.PNG/640px-Russians_Ukraine_2001.PNG
(https://i0.wp.com/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Russians_Ukraine_2001.PNG/640px-Russians_Ukraine_2001.PNG)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_cencus_2001_Russian.svg
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_cencus_2001_Russian.svg)
I can't even tell exactly the difference between and ethnic Russians and Ukrainians for sure and it seems neither can they. It seems partly made up given their marriage patterns.
Why Kiev wanted this war never made any sense. The current professional classes in Ukraine often speak Russian better than Ukrainian. I think the leading generals and president are native Russian speakers and prefer Russian in private. . So they pass laws outlawing Russian, seize library books from schools, and prevent parents from educating their kids in their native language. In places like Quebec and 21 of 22 Russian republics there is bilingual public education not psycho wars about this.
There were village clusters of mostly rural people speaking Ukrainian at home as their first language. More in the center and west than east. East was more heavy industry. The first political entity having borders and a capital named Ukraine was made by Lenin. I think returning diaspora have created an alternate history and they wanted war over a mythical ancient Ukraine. Seriously. What a crazy reason for a war.
According to the Russian Imperial Census of 1897 on the territory of the nine Russian Governorates in modern Ukraine yielded the following results:[citation needed]
Early 21st century
In an October 2009 poll by a Russian political sociology company FOM-Ukraine of 1,000 respondents, 52% stated they use Russian as their "Language of communication"; while 41% of the respondents state they use Ukrainian and 8% stated they use a mixture of both.[15]
A March 2010 poll[16] by Research & Branding Group showed that 65% considered Ukrainian as their native language and 33% Russian. This poll also showed the standard of knowledge of the Russian language (free conversational language, writing and reading) in current Ukraine is higher (76%) than the standard of knowledge of the Ukrainian language (69%). More respondents preferred to speak Ukrainian (46%) than Russian (38%) with 16% preferring to speak both in equal manner.
A poll held November 2009 revealed that 54.7% of the population of Ukraine believed the language issue in Ukraine was irrelevant, that each person could speak the language they preferred and that a lot more important problems existed in the country; 14.7% of those polled stated that the language issue was an urgent problem that could not be postponed and that calls for immediate resolution; another 28.3% believed that, while the language issue needed to be resolved, this could be postponed.[17]
An August 2011 poll by Razumkov Centre showed that 53.3% of the respondents use the Ukrainian language in everyday life, while 44.5% use Russian.[18]
In a May 2012 poll by RATING, 50% of respondents considered Ukrainian their native language, 29% Russian, 20% consider both Ukrainian and Russian their mother tongue and 1% considered a different language their native language.[19]
In an 11–23 December 2015 study by the Razumkov Centre taken in all regions of Ukraine other than Russian-annexed Crimea, and separatist controlled Donetsk, and Luhansk, a majority considered Ukrainian their native language (60%), followed by Russian (15%), while 22% used both languages equally. Two percent had another native language. For the preferred language of work, an equal amount chose either Ukrainian or Russian (37%) and 21% communicated bilingually. The study polled 10,071 individuals and held a 1% margin of error.[20][21]
According to the survey carried out by RATING on 16-20 August 2023, almost 60% of the polled usually speak Ukrainian at home, about 30% – Ukrainian and Russian, only 9% – Russian. Since March 2022, the use of Russian in everyday life has been noticeably decreasing. For 82 per cent of respondents, Ukrainian is their mother tongue, and for 16 per cent, Russian is their mother tongue. IDPs and refugees living abroad are more likely to use both languages for communication or speak Russian. Nevertheless, more than 70 per cent of IDPs and refugees consider Ukrainian to be their native language.[22]
This is well known by most. In short, Ukraine and others had no intention of implementing Minsk. They used it to buy time build up the Ukr military. RU was duped. Now US wants RU to fall for another ceasefire and negotiations.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1926881758567358896
Putin was already tricked by Macron and Scholz at the beginning of the war:
1) Macron and Scholz asked Russia to withdraw troops from Kiev to sign the peace deal and end the war.
2) Putin withdrew Russian troops from northern Ukraine trusting Macron and Scholz.
3) The peace agreement from April 2022 was torn apart and the war took its destructive turn.
-> Now Macron, Starmer, Merz and Trump's neocons want to do the same thing again.
Not to mention that Putin was tricked by Germany's Merkel and France's Hollande into Minsk 1 and 2 into ceasefires, which were used to rearm and buff up Ukraine.
French president Hollande tells the truth on the Minsk agreements:
"Everyone thought it was Putin who was playing for time.
No, we were playing for time to strengthen Ukraine"
Merkel who was the second broker and guarantor of the Minsk agreement says, it was fake and just used to win time to arm Ukraine.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gr2pNlkWUAAJUnf?format=jpg&name=small)
4 days before the Russian invasion (February 20, 2022) Macron told Putin that the Minsk agreements had no legal force and is worthless!
Macron smashed the last hopes Putin had for a diplomatic settlement, Emanuel wanted war.
And indeed tearing up Minsk & dumping the Istanbul peace talks is only the half of it.
Peace could have been achieved before the war started, & several times since, had the West & Ukraine not spent 20 years provoking an invasion.
Not doing the below would have done the trick:
- Breaking numerous written promises to Gorbachev & his team not to expand NATO to the east
- The US-backed coup in 2014, that overthrew a democratically elected Ukrainian leader.
- CIA maintaining relations with the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, Bandera faction (Ukrainian fascists or OUN-B) from 1948 to 1990.
- Training of the Ukrainian military by NATO, 2015-2022.
- The CIA funded & helped to build, organize, train & operate many bases in Ukraine from which covert actions were run against Russia.
- The reality (recently acknowledged by Marco Rubio) that the goal of this was a Western 'proxy war' that would weaken Russia.
- The post-2014 government incorporating the Nazi Azov Battalion into the Ukraine national army—making it a mecca for fascist enlistees from around the world.
- Vice President Biden forcing the firing of the senior Ukrainian prosecutor poised to investigate his son & himself for corruption.
- US advisors (post-coup) embedded in 12 Ukrainian ministries, & $266 million spent on training Ukrainian soldiers—again to provoke Russia.
- Ukraine's attacks on Russian civilians in eastern Ukraine. (Footage of these was sometimes repackaged by Western media as Russian attacks on Ukrainians.)
- Banning use of the Russian language in eastern Ukraine
- The West's failure to speak out against Ukraine drawing up assassination lists for critical Western journalists
- Signing the Minsk accords 'just to buy time' (Angela Merkel)
- Dumping the Minsk Accords once Ukraine had had time to re-arm
- Refusal to talk with Russia pre-invasion
- Sabotage of the Istanbul peace talks post-invasion.
"The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is Ukraine is going to get wrecked."
- Prof John Mearsheimer, 2015
(2015 would be ten years ago.)
Ultimately this is a problem of state capture in the West. Our elderly constitutions (penned long before political contributions & monopoly media) can no longer 'see' the schemes by which that capture is achieved.
Put simply, Western politicians are paid to go to war, & Western media's role is to cover for them.
*From The Mechanics of Changing the World: Political Architecture to Roll Back State & Corporate Power. (Constitutional structures to eliminate the influence of wealth in government, the economy, science, medicine & war—& to repel foreign manipulation of our politics.)
Recently Trump said Putin went crazy and attacked Ukraine for no reason
Larry Johnson says that Ukr fired 1400 drones into RU since May 19. Also they tried to attack Putins helicopter going to Kursk.I linked to 10:30.
https://youtu.be/8RVzcmMOnHQ?t=624
Somewhere he says that in the recent RU mass attacks on Ukr that Ukr claims 40 dead.
He says that US was arming Islamist rebels carrying out terrorist attacks inside Russia. i think he means the Chechens who blew up buildings in Moscow, took theater hostages and killed hundreds of school children in beslan on the first day of school. I linked to 24:45.
https://youtu.be/8RVzcmMOnHQ?t=1473
Great map collection you have there.. :thumbup:
Up Until 19th Century 'Ukrainians', 'Russians' Spoke a Single Language
Modern Russian and Ukrainian languages are creations of the 19th century. Earlier East Slavs spoke a single language common to ancestors of Russians and Ukrainians both
When can we define the emergence of the Ukrainian language? For sure, our nationalists (as well Russian nationalists) try to trace the origins of language as far back in history as possible in order to support present-day political agendas. But when we speak about Russian and Ukrainian in the XVII century – it's like speaking about the concept of citizenship in the same period. In short, we automatically expand to the past modern categories and standards which did not exist at that time.
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(https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/snimok-ekrana-2023-01-09-v-18.06.12.png)
https://rightedition.com/2015/04/06/up-until-19th-century-ukrainians-russians-spoke-a-single-language/
^^^
That is a good post. The reason I got obsessed by this was that I could not even tell who the various parties were in this conflict. I could not tell who was a Ukrainian. People in the Kiev faction called people in the Donbass "Russians."
I think ethnic Russians in Ukraine self ID as such. I also saw a Ukrainian birth certificate where the ethnicity was blank to be filled in by the parents. I assume native speaker means what language you learned as an infant. Many Russian native speakers ID as Ukrainian.
The Ukr nationalists seem to think that only the so called Ukrainians belong in Ukraine.
IMO the Russians and Ukrainians do not have a long running hatred. That was created recently, after USSR maybe after 2005.
The first political entities named Ukraine occurred in 1918 after the tsar fell. One had its capital in Lvov the other in Kiev. Both had borders. Another had a different name centered on Kharkhiv and one in Crimea. They did not last. Ukraine SSR was created in 1922.
In the Roman and Ottoman empires they mostly left religion, culture, and language alone which is why they lasted. They were not angels just not stupid. It would have been bad for business. The Kiev faction messed with all 3. Some lawyer for the Ukr Orthodox church said 1500 churches had been seized. IMO they were transferred to a sect created in 2019. The interference with language and culture is well known. IDIOTS.
Here is a link to an alleged ad for a Ukr on line gaming site. The subtitles are hard to read. This ad must have been considered a good ad. Not sure if it was filmed in a church or a studio.
https://youtu.be/1h3Qv7jjO8A
Below is a Ukr interviewing the soon to be exchanged civilians. Many were Ukr civilians convicted of crimes like communicating with the other side or some such. The interviewer is rather hostile. Not worth watching much.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1kwju2g/ua_pov_ukrainian_journalist_zolkin_interviewing/
Quote from: patentlymn on May 27, 2025, 03:39:09 PM^^^
That is a good post. The reason I got obsessed by this was that I could not even tell who the various parties were in this conflict. I could not tell who was a Ukrainian. People in the Kiev faction called people in the Donbass "Russians."
I think ethnic Russians in Ukraine self ID as such. I also saw a Ukrainian birth certificate where the ethnicity was blank to be filled in by the parents. I assume native speaker means what language you learned as an infant. Many Russian native speakers ID as Ukrainian.
The Ukr nationalists seem to think that only the so called Ukrainians belong in Ukraine.
IMO the Russians and Ukrainians do not have a long running hatred. That was created recently, after USSR maybe after 2005.
The first political entities named Ukraine occurred in 1918 after the tsar fell. One had its capital in Lvov the other in Kiev. Both had borders. Another had a different name centered on Kharkhiv and one in Crimea. They did not last. Ukraine SSR was created in 1922.
In the Roman and Ottoman empires they mostly left religion, culture, and language alone which is why they lasted. They were not angels just not stupid. It would have been bad for business. The Kiev faction messed with all 3. Some lawyer for the Ukr Orthodox church said 1500 churches had been seized. IMO they were transferred to a sect created in 2019. The interference with language and culture is well known. IDIOTS.
Here is a link to an alleged ad for a Ukr on line gaming site. The subtitles are hard to read. This ad must have been considered a good ad. Not sure if it was filmed in a church or a studio
Yep, always bugged me too, that there didn't seem to be any distinguishing or overlap in language and culture.
No matter how I searched, the latest media was 2019, I knew goog was fuckin around, so I had to go to Tusk and ask under Right leaning search, they gave me census data and opened other links.
Try it out, it really does open doors. Tusk.com
Quote from: patentlymn on May 27, 2025, 06:46:52 PMBelow is a Ukr interviewing the soon to be exchanged civilians. Many were Ukr civilians convicted of crimes like communicating with the other side or some such. The interviewer is rather hostile. Not worth watching much.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1kwju2g/ua_pov_ukrainian_journalist_zolkin_interviewing/
I liked this one quote, considering that Ukraine apparently never took prisoners, they probably murdered them on the spot.
So to get their men back, they created POW's.
"Ukrainians take hostages, Russians free hostages."
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/128661
MIKE BENZ: Council on Foreign Relations says 'we had TOTAL control over Russia... somehow Putin was able to take CONTROL over deep state'
TUCKER: 'They hate Putin because he DECAPITATED the oligarchy'
https://youtu.be/CqNwYbnuk30
EU Dictatorship Has Begun: Journalists And German Citizens Sanctioned
Neutrality Studies
This is completely outrageous. Under the veil of sanctioning Russia, the EU has just started to severely punish its own citizens and journalists from third countries. Two German and one Turkish journalist who have been blogging or otherwise reporting not only on Russia and Ukraine but also about the Gaza Genocide have been included in the latest sanctions list, the block passed last week. This means the three individuals have all their accounts frozen, can't travel to the EU, and nobody from the bloc can support their work financially anymore. This is DRACONIAN and it's not even a COURT case. This is the executive branch handing out severe punishments for the crime of doing journalism or people simply speaking their minds publicly. This is a complete breach not only of EU values and norms, but a serious infringement of the Human Rights (political and civil rights) of the affected EU citizens.
Somebody predicted the future for the Ukr conflict.
https://t.me/c/1633410280/140654
1. On the orders of German Chancellor Merz, the German army strikes the Russian Black Sea fleet in Novorossiysk and the Crimean bridge and Moscow with German Taurus missiles.
2. The strike unexpectedly turns out to be very effective.
3. German Chancellor Merz states that it was not the German army that struck with German Taurus missiles, but the Ukrainian army that struck with missiles produced in Ukraine under German license.
4. The Russian government states that this is all a lie and that in fact this is a strike by the German army with German missiles on Russian territory. And this is Germany's entry into the war with Russia.
5. The Russian army strikes with missiles on German territory, on Taurus missile production sites and their warehouses.
6. An exchange of missile strikes between Germany and Russia begins.
7. NATO declares war on Russia.
8. This is Zelensky's current plan, which Zelensky is trying to involve Merz in. This is exactly what Zelensky and Merz discussed on May 28.
9. Of course, Merz does not want missile strikes on Germany. But Merz hopes that Russia will get scared, so Germany can launch missiles at Russia, hiding behind Ukraine, and Russia will get scared to respond.
10. This plan has already been launched by German Chancellor Merz, who said that Ukraine has mastered the production of Taurus missiles in a few weeks (this is of course a lie) and that Germany has lifted the restrictions on the range of missile strikes. (This is, unfortunately, true)
11. As a result, if no one stops Merz, then the war between Russia and Germany could begin as early as June 2025.
12. Russia is trying to stop the German Chancellor with statements. About "red lines". Will it help?!
Translated from Markov's logic (https://t.me/logikamarkova/17521)
Also, this author describes how the Ukr ultra nationalists got so much power.
In short, emigres to other countries sent money to the far right groups to counter Russian cultural influence in Ukraine. Then western NGOs like NED pumped in money to these groups because they were seen as anti Russian.
The media oligarchs controlled most media and were mostly loyal to the far right. The far right armed up in part by looting armories and police stations. Then came the US backed 2014 coup and installation US picked govt. Some in Donbass rebelled as they had voted for the elected president who fled for his life.
Russia hoped for the Donbass to remain in Ukraine with some cultural autonomy but that was to much for the Ukr far right.
IMO They have some vision of a purified Ukraine and would rather see it destroyed than see it polluted.
1 in 5 Ukrainians have close relatives in Russia,
IMO this guy is good but the video below does not add much beyond my comments.
https://youtu.be/-OLICbNy4K8 30 minute version
How Ukraine's Far-Right Became a SHADOW POWER Structure and Ukraine's Loss of Democracy
https://youtu.be/g2egHt_GQsI 1 hr 17 min version
The Ukraine Crisis: The Secret Power Behind Zelensky - Who's Really in Charge? | Dr.Nicolai Petro
Dr. Nicolai Petro's site: https://www.npetro.net
https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Ukraine-Classical-Resolution-Contemporary-ebook/dp/B0BKXXSZG5?ref_=ast_author_mpb
https://x.com/clashreport
Ukraine's SBU:
34% of strategic carriers of cruise missiles at the main airfields of the Russian Federation have been hit.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1929196188105925088
NEW: Russian MoD:
Ukraine launched FPV drone attacks on airbases in Murmansk, Irkutsk, Ivanovo, Ryazan, and Amur regions.
Attacks in Ivanovo, Ryazan, and Amur were repelled.
Fires broke out at Murmansk and Irkutsk airbases due to nearby drone launches.
Fires extinguished, no casualties reported. Several suspects detained.
George Arvanitis
@drGA888
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So. One might ask. Why destroy planes that are part of Russia's strategic nuclear deterrent when none of these bombers are being used in Ukraine and are in fact located on the far side of the continent thousands of miles from the front? Who gains? NATO not Ukraine. How did Ukraine get targeting information on these sites without satellites of their own? What's next? bombing missile silos? This is a very dangerous game and escalation. The Russians clearly know who gains from this targeted destruction of one of the legs of their nuclear triad.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1929178206948507911
Clash Report
@clashreport
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Another Ukrainian FPV drone truck failed to reach its destination.
This is the second failed truck.
4 other trucks reached their destinations and carried out the attacks.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1929156631197089832
NEW: Ukrainian SBU's Operation "Web" Took 1.5 Years to Prepare
Ukraine's SBU spent over 18 months planning the massive "Web" operation that struck 41 Russian strategic aircraft today.
President Zelensky personally oversaw the mission, with SBU chief Vasyl Maliuk leading execution.
Sources say the complex logistics involved smuggling FPV drones and mobile wooden cabins into Russia. The drones were hidden under remote-controlled roofs on trucks. When triggered, the roofs opened and kamikaze drones launched toward Russian bombers.
SBU insiders stress that all operatives involved are already safely back in Ukraine. Any arrests by Russian authorities will likely be staged for domestic propaganda.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1929148932774408477
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1929148932774408477
Irkutsk, Russia: Ukrainian FPV drones launched from a truck, attempts made to shoot them down with small arms.
So it took 1.5 years of planning but the US govt had no knowledge of it ......
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929239050457698590
Russia parked the bombers outside in a nice order due to strategic nuclear control treaty.
"START treaty requires the bombers to be out in the open to assets the number of strategic bombers and to determine if they're conventionally or nuclear armed."
Ukrainian attack will have deep implications!
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929227772024520716
They walked it back and claim now, that the Trump administration did not know.
But how can the US not know if US generals plan the war from Wiesbaden in Germany and the operation has 1.5 years of preparation?
1.5 years preparation and not even once talked about it?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GsX-brEWkAASOOm?format=jpg&name=small)
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929212181943296035
The warehouse was found in Chelyabinsk where trucks with drones were assembled.
Chelyabinsk, Sverdlovsk tract 28A. It was rented for $4,500 (350,000 rubles). That's why the truck in the Amur region had Chelyabinsk license plates - they were leaving from there.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GsXwQBvXQAALcGH?format=jpg&name=large)
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929162836095234328
Lord Bebo
@MyLordBebo
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The SBU promptly publishes details of Operation "Web".
First, the SBU smuggled (or produced) FPV drones in Russia and hid them in mobile wooden houses.
These were placed on trucks. At the right moment, the roofs of the houses opened remotely, and the drones rushed to hit Russian bombers.
The photo shows exactly how the drones were prepared to attack military airfields.
The idea was implemented by Vasily Malyuk his team.
Even the media coverage of the operation was thought out and prepared in advance.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929190528119120199
Axios says Ukraine did indeed notify the Trump administration of the attack in advance, citing a Ukrainian official.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929169308845768996
Russian dude's understood that the Ukranian drone attack is happening and climed on the drone carrier trucks!
They stopped the launch of some drones with their bare hands. I think they broke off the propellers ...
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929197917023207730
Yet there are still too many stupid people who think this war is all about Ukrainian sovereignty. :glare:
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Early n in this conflict I concluded that the RU govt almost never lies and the Kiev faction lies all the time. They make up things all the time. They recently said that Russia kidnapped 19,000 Ukrainian children.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929839594712789455
🇺🇦🇷🇺 KIDNAPPED CHILDREN:
Ukraine: "Russia kidnapped 19,000 children. It's a genocide help"
Russia: "Give us the list of children you are missing and we return them. Our child protection services evacuated children from the war zone who lost contact with their family"
Ukraine: "Here's the list of missing children. 339 names on it return them!"
Russia: "Didn't you scream genocide and said 19,00 children are missing?"
Ukraine: ...
Russia: "So that's it, just like that?"
Ukraine: ...
Russia: "By the way you returned 20 Russian children, we need the west too"
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929553735434277291
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929551242939748620
The whole idea of Russians kidnapping children is stupid and fabricared lie... I can't imagine Russian soldiers going behind combat lines to Ukrainian side to take children. If Russians already controlled territory and for some reason civilians were still in combat zone, it makes perfect sense to evacuate them. The real question is why Ukrainians didn't evacuate them in the first place? My bet is that these will be children with some relatives in Western Ukraine. Ukraine didn't care about them until it became convenient. And cinsidering fact that 1 million Russian speaking Ukrainians fled to Russia, majority of these kids will be probably with one or two parents. So as always, it is Ukrainian lie...
So Germany did not say they will send taurus long range missiles to Ukraine. Now this. How stupid do they think Russia is?
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1930249519729459706
Germany just can't wait to get some...
'Umerov and I agreed that Germany will finance the production of long-range weapons in Ukraine. The first systems could be put into service by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in a few weeks' – Pistorius
Parrhesia
@ParrhesiaNous
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Jun 4
So Ukraine is an assembly point when a single screw gets turned in a pre-assembled missile and that will constitute "production". They must think we're stupid.
Brad
@radu_brad
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Jun 4
Yes, sure...they try to have "Ukrainian manufacture" story as cover for the long range missiles they are going manufacture in Germany and send it to the cockhead
https://x.com/PlJonson/status/1859901430083223981
Sweden will soon contribute substantial funds to make Ukraine able to mass produce Ukrainian long-range missiles and long range drones. Presented the news with 🇺🇦 defence minister Rustem Umerov at Karlberg Castle today. (1/4)
Nov 22, 2024
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https://x.com/peacemaket71/status/1930644746629685451
Peacemaker
@peacemaket71
Once upon a time, before he was manipulated, he spoke differently.. Archive video ..
◾‼️ Vladimir Zelensky revealed what language he wants to communicate in..
"I want us all to speak exactly the same language: that's exactly how we speak now," the Ukrainian actor said in Russian.
💬 Just a few years ago, Zelensky spoke out in support of the Russian language and declared that Ukrainians and Russians have a common origin. But then, when he came to power, he began to say and do everything that his Western curators asked him to do. And his conscience no longer bothered him.
A summary of the recent Ukrainian attacks.
Ukraine used shipping/trucking containers to launch many small drones to attack some nuclear capable bombers in Russia including in the Russian far east. The truckers were likely clueless and just delivered the containers to a location. The roofs retracted and the drones lunched. Many containers failed. The bombers were also used to deliver non nuclear weapons. This likely required US cooperation and said to take 18 month to plan.
Attacking nuclear capable bombers with even non-nuclear weapons violates the START treaty and established practices.Ukraine and UK did not sign START I am told. The START treaties require these bombers to be out on the open not in shelters. Russians do not consider this terrorism but are pissed for the START treaty reasons.
Ukraine also blew up some bridges inside Russia proper including dropping one on a civilian train passing underneath. Ukraine has means to do this using remote video monitoring. Russians consider this terrorism. Kiev has been targeting civilians inside Donbass and inside Russian proper before. Kiev has been attacking civilians inside Donbass since 2014.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1929630054398808239
WSJ forbid its journalist to interview the Russian delegation in Istanbul.
The Russian position remains forbidden in the msm
Did Ukrainian people want to join NATO? Around 2008 not really.
Lots of links provided.
https://youtu.be/z1WResi3p-U?t=467
Zelensky's Provocations Are DESIGNED To Drag NATO Into The WAR
Sebastian Sas
137K subscribers
Lots of referendums over time at link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_Ukraine
Quote from: patentlymn on June 07, 2025, 11:22:18 AMDid Ukrainian people want to join NATO? Around 2008 not really.
Lots of links provided.
https://youtu.be/z1WResi3p-U?t=467
Zelensky's Provocations Are DESIGNED To Drag NATO Into The WAR
Sebastian Sas
137K subscribers
Lots of referendums over time at link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_Ukraine
Sorry, WIKI is not a reliable source, Ever.
I can't even trust their periodic table. :biggrin:
OOPS! Forgot the link. :lol: :lol: :lol:
They, the left, they're never satisfied. :biggrin:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4393780/scraping-a-wiki-page-for-the-periodic-table-and-all-the-links
Quote from: Solar on June 07, 2025, 12:55:19 PMSorry, WIKI is not a reliable source, Ever.
I can't even trust their periodic table. :biggrin:
It was a list of links to various referendums. It was likely OK.
Quote from: patentlymn on June 07, 2025, 02:11:13 PMIt was a list of links to various referendums. It was likely OK.
Point is, Wiki is a leftist owned operation moderated by Marxists. Nothing from Wiki cane ever be trusted.
Even wiki admits as much.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931439520526045677
UKRAINE REFUSED TO RECEIVE 6000 UKRAINIAN BODIES.
So Russia started publishing the names of the Ukrainian soldiers.
Sad way for relatives to find out that their son, husband or father died.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gs3aAXMXMAA7Ynv?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Also zelensky previously only admitted to 30,000 dead only ... but the Russia just gives them 6,000 at once? Makes him look not credible
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Ukraine reportedly refuses to accept 6,000 bodies, possibly to avoid $2.2 billion in compensation payouts per a 2025 RT report citing Ukrainian law entitling families to $360,000 per soldier.
This is an old story. Some French reporter Mr. Adrien Bocquet reported on what he saw at Bucha. He saw the bodies being staged. there is a lot more than this but this link just popped up for me. Bucha was the site of civilians killed, Kiev blamed Russia.
I recall after his report Kiev put a price on his head and two guys tried to collect in Istanbul.They came with knives but he survived and ended up in the hospital.
https://x.com/UNIT_Diplomat/status/1930767324975444446
Sense and Sensibility
@UNIT_Diplomat
Bucha, Ukraine.
Ukrainian Bodies from the Eastern Front of Ukraine, were used to stage a massacre.
Timing-
Coincident with Istanbul Agreement Initialed by Ukraine and Russia.
Testimonial Evidence 01- UNIT.
This guy Alex Krainer mentions project Alchemy, a project in 2022 to keep the Ukr war going to prevent Ukr from agreeing to a peace proposal. UK has had hatred for RU going back to around 1840. At 20:10 below
https://youtu.be/a-vDdXZerJk?t=1206
Grok says
Yes, there are references to a "Project Alchemy" related to Ukraine, primarily from leaked documents reported by The Grayzone. These documents suggest that Project Alchemy was a covert initiative formed by the British Ministry of Defence in February 2022, shortly after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Led by Lieutenant General Charlie Stickland, it involved British military and intelligence veterans aiming to prolong the Ukraine-Russia conflict through various means, including sabotage, cyberattacks, and propaganda. The project allegedly sought to "keep Ukraine fighting" by imposing strategic costs on Russia, with tactics ranging from targeting infrastructure like the Kerch Bridge to creating a Gladio-style Ukrainian partisan force for sabotage and terrorism behind enemy lines. It also reportedly included plans to suppress dissenting media outlets, such as The Grayzone, through legal harassment. Some sources claim these efforts stretched legal boundaries, with proposals to "creatively use the law" to achieve objectives.
Yes, a document titled "Ukraine's Next Chapter – Elders Grand Strategy Options Paper" is explicitly mentioned in reports about Project Alchemy, a covert British military-intelligence initiative launched in February 2022 under Lieutenant General Charlie Stickland. According to leaked files reported by The Grayzone, this document was produced by Project Alchemy and outlined strategies to prolong the Ukraine-Russia conflict. It was attributed to "The Elders," described as a group of "Fusion players" with ties to the British military, including academics and defense industry figures. The paper allegedly argued that a prolonged war would weaken Russia's global standing, asserting that "a long war against a small state makes [Putin] look a fool" and could lead to a "palace coup" in the Kremlin. It proposed tactics like targeting the Kerch Bridge, training Ukrainian partisans for sabotage, and escalating covert operations to impose "strategic dilemmas, costs, and frictions" on Russia.
Alex Krainer says something creepy at 26:20 below. The recent attacks on the RU bombers could have done much more harm if done to refineries, water sources, etc. Why the bombers? That satisfied triggering the RU doctrine to trigger nuclear war. Attacking a leg of the nuclear triad with even non-nuclear weapons could start a nuclear war.
26:20 to 28:00. Scary. This was not done even during the cold war.
https://youtu.be/a-vDdXZerJk?t=1582
At 31:00 all wars are bankers wars? Liz Truss said the Bank of England had all the power, not her.
https://youtu.be/a-vDdXZerJk?t=1827
Video clip of refrigerator truck with bodies.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931331395097391486
Ukraine does not want to pick up its dead!
Ukrainian delegation STILL not at exchange location — Kiev hasn't set date, nor handed over list of POWs
Lieutenant General Zorin confirms 1st batch of Ukrainian soldier bodies ARRIVED on site
-> This would bankrupt zelensky, as will need pay compensation to the relatives
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931771734270640310
The exchange of bodies shows an even worse picture for Ukraine with a ratio of 22:1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gs8IJwHWgAE4SIS?format=jpg&name=small)
This is creepy. Like flying roadside IEDs.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931715544572408303
Russian fiber optics drones wait on supply router for Ukrainian vehicles ... crazy ambushes.
Drones are waiting on the road and attack incoming vehicles.
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Politico full of sh*t as usual
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gs7UH1zXEAAQAtH?format=jpg&name=small)
I thin Kiev reported this as a civilian target in the middle of Kiev at night. But there were massive secondary explosions through the AM. There was a bunker below. Video at link. massive.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931394540989981090
RUSSIA BLEW UP UKRAINE'S CRUISE MISSILE PROGRAM WITH NATO INSTRUCTORS!
It was in the center of Kiev.
The facility was inside the Bolshevik plant, which is was defunct for years.
Below the plant is a bunker, rather was.
This bunker in the center of Kiev was turned it a cruise missile factory.
Instead as civilian shelter.
This bunker was the Peklo cruise missiles production facility.
The images of the former bunker verify that.
NATO officials knew about the facility and toured it proudly.
Now the Ukranian cruise missile program is destroyed.
NATO instructors helped run and build the facility, if we listen to what German chancellor merz said and see the instructors on site in previous footage.
Now they're gone too.
Grok
@grok
Jun 7
There is no verified evidence that a cruise missile factory in Kyiv was destroyed or NATO instructors were killed on June 7, 2025. Reports confirm Russian attacks on Kyiv during this time, targeting infrastructure, but no credible sources mention a specific factory or NATO casualties. The claim likely originates from unverified social media posts. Rely on official statements for accurate information.
Former CIA Larry Johnson says some senators have received 10s of millions USD from Ukraine and are under investigation. I linked to 21:30
https://youtu.be/4mZTuOPQjz4?t=1314
I have seen this video before. Ukr soldiers using ambulances for transport.
https://t.me/putingers_cat_chat/564360
I posted this before. The secondary explosions after 18 sec tell it all.
Quotehttps://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931394540989981090
RUSSIA BLEW UP UKRAINE'S CRUISE MISSILE PROGRAM WITH NATO INSTRUCTORS!
Kiev pumps out BS 24/7.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1932356640902193320
Did Russia attack civilians?
Zelensky and all Ukranian propagandists claim Russia attacked civilians over night.
Turn on your brain and think! Let's do the math!
- 315 drones and 7 missiles hit Ukraine
- 13 people were injured and 2 died
-> So Russia send so much to kill 2 and injure 13? Obviously not, it's so delusional it's not believable.This is the tragedy that is caused by falling debris, intercepted drones and misdirected interception fire.
If you hit random civilian buildings, you would have a much higher casualty rate.
You can see that for instance when Ukraine randomly blasts into Belgorod with one MLRS package, you have about the same casualties on Russian side.
The train Ukraine bombed two weeks ago had 7 dead and 30 injured in Russia. That was a targeted attack on civilians.
Here we have dozens of impacts caught on video, many fires all across Kiev and no one died in Kiev? (Only in Odessa) come on ... think. That's why we have secondary explosions from burning ammo warehouses and thick's none from fuel storage facilities.
Russia struck military infrastructure only. Obviously. Numbers do not make sense in any other way.
https://x.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1932072322090819922
Dagny Taggart
@DagnyTaggart963
Lavrov told how Blinken provoked the war in Ukraine in January 2021. Russia then demanded guarantees of Ukraine's neutrality. But Blinken told Lavrov during the negotiations that Russia should forget about these demands, and the US would definitely deploy its short- and medium-range missiles in Ukraine
Alex talks about this
https://youtu.be/SRtSEpij2yA?t=603
This is what Ukrainians are taught. Russians and Ukrainians are genetically distinct. it is not factually accurate. BTW when Zelensky ran for office he said the Russians and Ukrainians are one people.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/13924
A video is being distributed online, explaining in Ukrainian why Russians and Ukrainians are not brotherly peoples.
This Ukr conflict is the first one i recall being on social media and the first one i paid attention to. below re some comments from people.
@juodagalvesniegena714
3 months ago (edited)
Same exact thing in Baltics,in Lithuanian school system they removed ALL Lithuanian top writers who wrote in Lithuanian because all of them lived either in Russian empire or soviet union and were either neutral and non-political or supported Russia.
As someone who is from Russia or English speaking country,they cant understand how BORING and BADLY WRITTEN the books are of authors from smaller countries like Lithuania,everybody knows English and Russian writers all around the world,in Russian schools kids read Russian authors in Russian language,in English universities students read Russian classics in English,,now imagine studying a small language where all OK literature is removed because they werent russophobic and the only literature you get to learn from 1st grade to university is from political authors who arent talented,wrote nothing important,basically no different from PC culture or BLM LGBT literature.
This is the main reason I cant stand my native language,I hated Lithuanian classes,literature even more,because the material was so bad,no one can enjoy studying language. I bet for Russians in Ukraine its the same once Russian literature was removed. Like theres no good material left apart from 1-2 authors who wrote in native languages. ANY good author during soviet or empire times wrote in both languages because they had audience in Russia.
In a way removing Russian literature is the main reason Lithuanian language is dying and Ukrainian will die out too. During soviet times Lithuania had a population that got better grades,could speak 2 languages without an accent as if they both were native. Today 60% of population fail the final exams in Lithuanian language. Same will happen with Ukraine. Majority of those who see themselves as ethnic Ukrainian will just americanize and forget their language and speak half english half Ukrainian as has happened to Lithuanians who cant say 1 sentence without replacing Lithuanian words with english.
The more I think about it, the more I lean towards the EU NATO war Against Russia.
There is no more of a conflict than, the lie that the Korean war was was a conflict, it too was a proxy fight.
Ukraine is a lie, it is primarily Russian and should remain that way.
It's not like Russia was trying to govern them, Russia wanted to keep it out of the hands of the EU and rightfully so.
Quote from: Solar on June 11, 2025, 03:20:37 AMThe more I think about it, the more I lean towards the EU NATO war Against Russia.
There is no more of a conflict than, the lie that the Korean war was was a conflict, it too was a proxy fight.
Ukraine is a lie, it is primarily Russian and should remain that way.
It's not like Russia was trying to govern them, Russia wanted to keep it out of the hands of the EU and rightfully so.
I don't think the EU NATO crowd would be so willing to see this war go on if it was their people dying.
Quote from: Possum on June 11, 2025, 04:12:36 AMI don't think the EU NATO crowd would be so willing to see this war go on if it was their people dying.
Yep, or let alone, have to pay for it on their own.
It's like Canada getting a free ride under our protection, while backing Ukraine. This shit needs to end and so does NATO!
Quote from: Solar on June 11, 2025, 07:10:13 AMYep, or let alone, have to pay for it on their own.
It's like Canada getting a free ride under our protection, while backing Ukraine. This shit needs to end and so does NATO!
There is some Soros paper maybe in 1993. He proposed using western tech and eastern european manpower to reduce NATO body bags.
Quote from: patentlymn on June 11, 2025, 10:46:49 AMThere is some Soros paper maybe in 1993. He proposed using western tech and eastern european manpower to reduce NATO body bags.
Meaning?
Quote from: Solar on June 11, 2025, 01:04:31 PMMeaning?
I mean his plan was implemented in Ukraine. Western tech and Ukrainian body bags. When people in the US boast of what a 'good investment' this is with US money but not US body bags I want to barf at how ghoulish this is. Maybe 1.M Ukrainian sod=soldiers dead.
Soros did not put a fine point on this. IMO his 'open societies' do have a dogma which is globalism and ignoring what their own people want. These open societies have shut down commerce, transportation, and communication with Russia and others. I think the 'closed societies' are closed to being sold to Blackrock so they are hated. Their nationalism means the people are put ahead of the investor class.
https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1749360235330896014
George Soros wrote in 1993 that NATO should partner with Eastern European proxies to "reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries":
- "the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of the Partnership because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act"
https://www.georgesoros.com/1993/11/01/toward-a-new-world-order-the-future-of-nato/
Toward a New World Order: The Future of NATO
Open Society Foundations, November 1, 1993
The Coming World Disorder
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I contend that it is very useful to draw a distinction between open and closed societies. The distinction is based on the same philosophical foundations as my theory of history, namely, that participants act on the basis of imperfect understanding. Open society is based on the recognition of this principle and closed society on its denial.
In a closed society, there is an authority which is the dispenser of the ultimate truth; open society does not recognize such authority even if it recognizes the rule of law and the sovereignty of the state. The state is not based on a dogma and society is not dominated by the state. The government is elected by the people and it can be changed. Above all, there is respect for minorities and minority opinions....
Closed societies based on nationalist principles constitute a threat to security because they need an enemy, either outside or within.
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The United States would not be called upon to act as the policeman of the world. When it acts, it would act in conjunction with others. Incidentally, the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of the Partnership because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act. This is a viable alternative to the looming world disorder.
This guy is a prof in Norway. Direct attempts to fire him for views on Ukraine failed. Here he goes into censorship as he has before. Now he says they have obtained every bit of his word and notes so they can fire him for alleged errors or plagiarism. German profs have been fired this way.
https://youtu.be/L0eXB38qAPo
Ulrike Guérot: Censorship, Cancellation & Death of Democracy in Europe
Jun 11, 2025
Ulrike Guérot is one of the leading German political scientists and experts on Europe. Guérot outlines how European academia began to change after the global financial crisis (2008-09) as the crisis resulted in reduced acceptance for criticism and the narrowing of acceptable debate. Following her criticism of the Covid policies, Guérot discovered that she was increasingly met with personal attacks rather than counter-arguments. When she questioned the narrative of an "unprovoked" Russian invasion of Ukraine she was suddenly accused of taking the side of Russia, a vicious smear campaign began, colleagues and friends turned against her, and a search to discover anything that could be interpreted as "academic dishonesty" eventually led to being fired from the university. The story about how one of Germany's leading academics could be cancelled tells a wider story about the decline of academic freedom, the efforts to crush all dissent, and the revival of European authoritarianism.
https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/how-peace-oriented-norway-learned
How Peace-Oriented Norway Learned to Stop Worrying and Love War
Prof. Glenn Diesen
Glenn Diesen
May 26, 2025
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Almost every media outlet in the country framed the issue on the premise that I am "pro-Russian" and "anti-Ukrainian". People began tearing down the posters, and some compared their political vandalism with liberating the country from Hitler during the Second World War. People were intoxicated with self-righteousness and moral superiority as the tribe united in virtue and the fight for freedom. Their hatred of the evil "other" was celebrated as evidence of their righteousness as they formed a resistance against us, fascist agents of Russia who support the destruction of Ukraine and would like to see Russia conquer Europe.
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The Norwegian is taught to express empathy for Afghans when it justifies occupation, Syrians when it justifies regime change, Libyans when it justifies military intervention, etc. However, once the strategic objective is achieved, there is no attention or empathy expressed. As we leave behind death and destruction, there is no remorse, as our alleged intentions were good. In Ukraine, the Norwegian is taught to have great empathy when it comes to advancing the war efforts. In contrast, the Norwegian will react with suspicion and anger if anyone mentions the suffering of the people in Donbas over the past decade, "military recruiters" dragging people off the streets and out of their homes, the attacks on the media, the denial of political rights, language rights, cultural rights or religious rights. The empathy for Ukrainians is instrumental, it is evoked or suppressed based on the purpose it serves.
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