Quote from: WMK on April 26, 2023, 11:28:44 PMTo your line of thinking, it could be possible that's the indictments against Trump are merely to serve as a distraction to prevent DeSantis from having too much exposure. By keeping Trump front and center politics would be reduced to nothing more than kabuki theater - Heroes & Villians

Trump still ripping mccain means az is lost

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 11:58:48 AMSeems to me most all MAGA voters are securely anchored in the belief that NO ONE but Donald Trump can possibly defeat the Democrat opposition. - Past Is Prologue - 

A greater fear I have is that if Trump does not prevail in the primaries, how many MAGA voters would put their support behind the (R) nominee??? 

Kemp and ron both won big after barely winning in 2018

Quote from: ldub23 on April 27, 2023, 03:29:48 PMKemp and ron both won big after barely winning in 2018

DeSantis' last victory was so large in a state that was,'purple' that a good number of voting conservatives now believe his model of leadership needs to be blueprinted and applied on a national scale. More so because Fla. is the 3rd largest state and crucial for conservatives.
IMO, Trump's recent histrionics show a fear of DeSantis because he was able to take action and prevailed in battles where Trump ceded his authority to the establishment - COVID.

Quote from: WMK on April 28, 2023, 09:54:32 AMDeSantis' last victory was so large in a state that was,'purple' that a good number of voting conservatives now believe his model of leadership needs to be blueprinted and applied on a national scale. More so because Fla. is the 3rd largest state and crucial for conservatives.
IMO, Trump's recent histrionics show a fear of DeSantis because he was able to take action and prevailed in battles where Trump ceded his authority to the establishment - COVID.

Although Ron said "Never", once things settle down, he could be in the running for Veep, only because he'll have tarnished his reputation amongst the patriot base.
Once Trump is chosen, he's going to have a lot of damage to repair when all is said and done.

Quote from: WMK on April 28, 2023, 09:54:32 AMDeSantis' last victory was so large in a state that was,'purple' that a good number of voting conservatives now believe his model of leadership needs to be blueprinted and applied on a national scale. More so because Fla. is the 3rd largest state and crucial for conservatives.
IMO, Trump's recent histrionics show a fear of DeSantis because he was able to take action and prevailed in battles where Trump ceded his authority to the establishment - COVID.

What in the hell are you talking about?  You have absolutely NO idea about his last election, apparently.  Do some basic research. Please.  He actually did not do well if you knew anything.

Quote from: WMK on April 28, 2023, 09:54:32 AMDeSantis' last victory was so large in a state that was,'purple' that a good number of voting conservatives now believe his model of leadership needs to be blueprinted and applied on a national scale. More so because Fla. is the 3rd largest state and crucial for conservatives.
IMO, Trump's recent histrionics show a fear of DeSantis because he was able to take action and prevailed in battles where Trump ceded his authority to the establishment - COVID.

How bad do you think DeSantis shutting down Florida will hurt him? 

Quote from: Solar on April 28, 2023, 11:00:20 AMAlthough Ron said "Never", once things settle down, he could be in the running for Veep, only because he'll have tarnished his reputation amongst the patriot base.
Once Trump is chosen, he's going to have a lot of damage to repair when all is said and done.

Trump is toxic. His choice for rnc chair ronna is a disaster

Quote from: ldub23 on April 28, 2023, 12:33:27 PMTrump is toxic. His choice for rnc chair ronna is a disaster

The RNC picks the Chair.  Did you not know that?

Quote from: taxed on April 28, 2023, 12:39:09 PMThe RNC picks the Chair.  Did you not know that?

Trump endorsed her and she is doing squat to adopt to current law

Quote from: Possum on April 28, 2023, 12:10:54 PMHow bad do you think DeSantis shutting down Florida will hurt him? 

It's actually become a positive measure for him. Compared to other states, DeSantis was one of the few who had a team research real science vs. COVID. Thereafter, he made the choice to act contrary to the CDC and other so called 'luminaries' spouting authoritarian directives.  That's why Fla. flourished more than any other state during COVID. It was one of the freest states in the union.

To say EVERYONE erred on the side of caution i.e. lockdowns, masks, isolations, when nothing was known about COVID is stating the obvious. It's who took action to oppose the COVID false narratives & directives once they discovered the truth that separates the wheat from the chaff. Took lots of political courage to do that in thee earlier stages.

Quote from: taxed on April 28, 2023, 12:07:42 PMWhat in the hell are you talking about?  You have absolutely NO idea about his last election, apparently.  Do some basic research. Please.  He actually did not do well if you knew anything.

Research? Haha.  I can count to 19% where percentage results in victory margins apply. Can you.

Quote from: WMK on April 28, 2023, 01:02:57 PMResearch? Haha.  I can count to 19% where percentage results in victory margins apply. Can you.

Did DeSantis win Trump strongholds in Florida at Trump's numbers?

Quote from: WMK on April 28, 2023, 12:56:28 PMIt's actually become a positive measure for him. Compared to other states, DeSantis was one of the few who had a team research real science vs. COVID. Thereafter, he made the choice to act contrary to the CDC and other so called 'luminaries' spouting authoritarian directives.  That's why Fla. flourished more than any other state during COVID. It was one of the freest states in the union.

To say EVERYONE erred on the side of caution i.e. lockdowns, masks, isolations, when nothing was known about COVID is stating the obvious. It's who took action to oppose the COVID false narratives & directives once they discovered the truth that separates the wheat from the chaff. Took lots of political courage to do that in thee earlier stages.

When DeSantis shut down Florida, he followed federal guidance on the lockdowns, masks, social distancing, in other words, he did what other states did, nothing special. Not exactly political courage if everyone is doing the same. So I have to ask again, were his hand picked staff members that bad? You do not give dates for when his team did their "real science" but I'm guessing it was about the time we ALL knew it was nothing. Why did they not push alternate drugs for fighting the virus from the beginning like Trump did? I will give him credit for not issuing a "stay at home", neither did Texas.

To Abbotts credit, he did not issue lockdowns, the cities were allowed to make their own decisions, and many left it up to the individual companies. The few "big block" stores I did go to voluntary issued their own restrictions and MOST places I went had no restrictions at all, thus NO REOPENING as they did not close. I find it hard to believe Florida was the freest state when in my neck of the woods there were no mask mandates to end, no lockdowns to stop, nobody looking to see if you had the vaccine, etc.

Oh boy...

https://twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1652021618447732736

TALK ABOUT UNINFORMED?

Ron DeSantis wanted to send weapons to Ukraine when he was a congressman – as a presidential hopeful he questions US involvement

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/politics/ron-desantis-supported-ukraine-russia-kfile/index.html