Quote from: WMK on April 23, 2023, 11:07:37 AMI "avoided" your point because I see it as nothing more than conjecture - a subjective interpretation and connection of certain dots from past politics and automatically assuming the same applies here.

Your criticism of DeSantis primarily consist of who's backing him, rather than actions he's actually taken to promote and advance leftist ideals. You don't create the kind of national effect DeSantis did on the right by who's backing you. You cause that by dust-ups no one else is willing to have against the enemy and WINNING them.
The "Establishment may indeed be behind DeSantis for their own agenda. But, with me, that a given. Desantis will lead & push his own agenda, not theirs. His governance in Fla. already proved that to me.

OK, so you admit the Establishment is backing him, that's a start.
But Trump has proven leadership, while DeSantis only has executive, and a Legislature that supports him, without that, he'd be a no one.

Problem is, people don't want an untested candidate in world affairs, especially now with the NWO pushing global order. Nor would he have the backing of the GOP, a party that's proven they hate anyone interfering in their leftist agenda.
With that said, how is a guy with little support from the base going to govern, when he's beholden to the Uniparty?

Trump' financial support comes from the real Right, while DeSantis is beholden to the Marxists in the GOP, yet you still think he's his own man?

Have you learned nothing since the first Bush stepped into the WH and pronounced a New World Order?
Yeah, I'm with Possum on this, your Conservative claims are not that of a true Conservative.

Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2023, 11:33:31 AMOK, so you admit the Establishment is backing him, that's a start.
But Trump has proven leadership, while DeSantis only has executive, and a Legislature that supports him, without that, he'd be a no one.

Problem is, people don't want an untested candidate in world affairs, especially now with the NWO pushing global order. Nor would he have the backing of the GOP, a party that's proven they hate anyone interfering in their leftist agenda.
With that said, how is a guy with little support from the base going to govern, when he's beholden to the Uniparty?

Trump' financial support comes from the real Right, while DeSantis is beholden to the Marxists in the GOP, yet you still think he's his own man?

Have you learned nothing since the first Bush stepped into the WH and pronounced a New World Order?
Yeah, I'm with Possum on this, your Conservative claims are not that of a true Conservative.

Ok, so you've made your assessment(s) I can live with it.

Quote from: WMK on April 23, 2023, 11:56:52 AMOk, so you've made your assessment(s) I can live with it.

It wasn't meant as an insult, just an observation, but I can see how it might be construed as one.
Point is, after all these decades, you still can't see through the deceptions of the deep state, simply because you have an emotional bent towards Trump.

Conservatives don't run on emotion.

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 11:14:51 PMDepends. Do you speak and act for ALL Trumpers?

Yes!             

Quote from: WMK on April 23, 2023, 08:53:53 AMI was also taking into account what's being said print along with that chart. But your point is well taken.

There are talkers, then there are doers! That's where the rubber meets the road for me. I disliked both of those senators immensely.

Just curious, do you go along with Trumps general claim, that Fla. is in bad shape under DeSantis?

https://twitter.com/sethjlevy/status/1649806606928887810

Quote from: taxed on April 23, 2023, 03:28:12 PMhttps://twitter.com/sethjlevy/status/1649806606928887810

Trump's not gonna want to hear that. Better keep it under wraps.

Quote from: taxed on April 23, 2023, 03:26:00 PMYes!             

Spoken like a true cultist!

Quote from: WMK on April 23, 2023, 04:03:37 PMTrump's not gonna want to hear that. Better keep it under wraps.

It's the easiest cult to be part of, because I can win every single debate in defense of him and what he's done.  I can be my conservative pro-American self and never have to go back on my principles or sacrifice dignity in any way.

Quote from: taxed on April 23, 2023, 04:11:13 PMIt's the easiest cult to be part of, because I can win every single debate in defense of him and what he's done.  I can be my conservative pro-American self and never have to go back on my principles or sacrifice dignity in any way.

Haha. Sounds like you decided to take the blue pill. Good luck with all that.
 
 

Quote from: WMK on April 23, 2023, 04:38:58 PMHaha. Sounds like you decided to take the blue pill. Good luck with all that.
 

I took the red, white, and blue pill. If you're not in Trump's corner, you're the enemy. It's that simple.

Quote from: WMK on April 22, 2023, 11:14:51 PMDepends. Do you speak and act for ALL Trumpers?

We are not "Trumpers". We are Conservatives.

He just happens to be the hero we need.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 23, 2023, 05:27:27 PMWe are not "Trumpers". We are Conservatives.

He just happens to be the hero we need.

I don't doubt that MAGA voters are conservative or patriotic.
I should have put quotations on, "Trumpers" as it was a term someone else used.

Quote from: taxed on April 23, 2023, 04:46:24 PMI took the red, white, and blue pill. If you're not in Trump's corner, you're the enemy. It's that simple.

Careful. Pills can come with nasty side effects.

Quote from: WMK on April 23, 2023, 07:02:56 PMCareful. Pills can come with nasty side effects.

Not these pills.

Quote from: WMK on April 23, 2023, 06:55:18 PMI don't doubt that MAGA voters are conservative or patriotic.
I should have put quotations on, "Trumpers" as it was a term someone else used.

Conservatives are always being put down or insulted by lefties.