That is just a list written by someone in 1958. It is not evidence of a communist plot just because someone wrote it down. It sounds more like a mccarthy era paranoid rant.

The most obvious one to discredit is that education was trying to promote the USSR. I have never heard anyone ever justify Stalin-ism or the USSR. Movies and media or education. 

I may as well claim a small group of men create earthquakes and have alien DNA, because Alex Jones wrote it down.

Quote from: redlom xof on May 28, 2013, 09:34:49 AM
I don't want to overlook what happens in the middle east in regards to women's rights, gay rights etc. I don't think we have the 'moral high ground' here though when we openly support regimes who participate in this behavior.

What do you mean "moral high ground"?  We should spend money to defend against attacks, and attack after we've been attacked.

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Take Saudi Arabia for example, they're one of the most extreme crazy Islamic countries in the world. They're also one of our biggest trading partners and allies in the region. So you can't really claim we should invade and bomb the crap out of country x because they're " backwards" but also actively support country b who is the same or worse. Just doesn't make sense.

Why would I want to attack a country who trades with us and doesn't attack us?  Where did you go off the rails and bring in religion?  They can be as crazy as they want, as long as they don't attack us.

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Perhaps it is not the people who who commitment these terrorist acts against us that deserve your care or sympathy, but the innocent civilians who die by the millions due to our power politics in the region. They're after all, human beings who have little say in how their country operates.

Why would I care about them, especially if they're not attacking me?

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You are living in a world where you expect no one to resist or care about American imperialism, but would start world war 3 if anyone dare strike back at you.

I'd rather leave other countries alone.  Yes, if we're attacked, we need to defend ourselves and reap justice.

Quote from: redlom xof on May 28, 2013, 11:23:49 AM
That is just a list written by someone in 1958. It is not evidence of a communist plot just because someone wrote it down. It sounds more like a mccarthy era paranoid rant.

The most obvious one to discredit is that education was trying to promote the USSR. I have never heard anyone ever justify Stalin-ism or the USSR. Movies and media or education. 

I may as well claim a small group of men create earthquakes and have alien DNA, because Alex Jones wrote it down.

OK, what I gave you is in the Congressional record, but as proof of what was written, here is a former KGB officer explaining how the USSR was infiltrating our values, media and Govt.
You can't make this stuff up, not to mention, did you notice that nearly all those warnings, have been fulfilled?
Seriously, take 10 minutes and listen, he is telling you exactly what is going on.

OBAMA's END GAME REVEALED BY KGB - Communist Obama Socialist / Marxist / Leninist

Quote from: redlom xof on May 28, 2013, 01:06:09 AM
You have gone off on many tangents but have barely addressed my post.

I'm asking, what right does the USA have, or any other imperial power for that matter, to interfere with other countries politics just to serve their own interests ?

You seem to acknowledge the moral bankruptcy when another nation such as China or Russia do it, but excuse it when the USA does it. But that is not surprising, it is always harder to aim the moral compos at your own tribe/people. I'm sure if you ask the majority of Chinese, they would find ways to excuse their governments actions around the world.

We were discussing Iran....you went off on the tangent about China
And the USSR now Russia have a direct impact on that country then as they do now.

Spare me your decree on who is morally bankrupt. The KGB, China and
other commie nations spread their Marxist totalitarianism thru armed revolution, guerilla warfare and terrorism. All financed thru by said regimes.

DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

Their goal is to control all the oil and choke off the west (the USA) and were stupid enough to buy into it with our environazi movement that prohibits using our natural resources.

We could control oil, have China dancing like Little Yau Tien Puppets, end all the stupidity in the middle east and nulify that insidious organization, OPEC in one fell swoop by forming our own North American Oil alliance with Mexico, Cananda the UK and Norway and drive those sheep molesting savages right back into the stone age where they belong .

Quote from: redlom xof on May 28, 2013, 11:23:49 AM
That is just a list written by someone in 1958. It is not evidence of a communist plot just because someone wrote it down. It sounds more like a mccarthy era paranoid rant.

The most obvious one to discredit is that education was trying to promote the USSR. I have never heard anyone ever justify Stalin-ism or the USSR. Movies and media or education. 

I may as well claim a small group of men create earthquakes and have alien DNA, because Alex Jones wrote it down.

You don't like that....?

How about this.....

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/26/author-soviet-agents-subverted-us-in-1930s/#ixzz2UShoyy6M

Quote from: BILLY Defiant on May 28, 2013, 10:26:33 PM

You don't like that....?

How about this.....

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/26/author-soviet-agents-subverted-us-in-1930s/#ixzz2UShoyy6M

He actually tried to make a case that it was just CIA propaganda, seriously, the evidence is right in front of his face and he blatantly denies it to himself.
The Marxists have done one Hell of a job with our educational system, haven't they?

If Redlum does anything, he, in the least, needs to jump to the twenty four minute mark and listen, then he will understand why the libs support Islum and why obamby supports the Arab spring.
Excellent interview, I heard about her book and want to read it, because when it came out, the left went after it like they did McCarthy.

Why is it so damned hard to make people see that the commies are here, they never left, they never quit influencing our politicians, culture, and they even succeeded in putting a Marxist in office.

Here's the part about Benghazi.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/26/author-diana-west-on-benghazi-its-what-happens-when-you-switch-sides-openly-video/