There are some amazing story-tellers out there in the world, on the television, in the newspapers, on social media. Omnipresent narrators with an authoritative command of language and imagery and sound and special effects that wield supreme confidence. Doesn't matter if the stories they tell are largely fictional. They sound and look good so we believe them. We can't help but pay attention and give them credence even if we tell ourselves we don't........
Instead, you have to research and second-guess everything. Triple-guess, even. You have to fact-check the stories and then fact-check the fact-checkers. Everyone's trying to sell you their version of reality—in order to sell something to you, convince you to go along with a narrative, or "nudge" you toward some desired behavior or outcome.
This isn't necessarily a new phenomenon, but never before have the storytellers had such influence while also having so little direct connection to the consumers of the narrative.
And so for this holiday season, this Christmas, or winter solstice, or whichever one you follow, give yourself the license to tell your own story.
Solar is a great story teller but he is also a fact and research kind of guy when it comes to what he knows. Toy
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I was going to write a book, Forever 39, and here I am 83 and no book. Too late now. My life story is long and I believe interesting but no motivation to put it down.
I listen to NPR Saturday nights here with 2 hrs of Stories from some great story tellers. I look forward to that program.
The Moth
https://themoth.org/
Quote from: jaminhealth on December 31, 2021, 01:09:39 PMI was going to write a book, Forever 39, and here I am 83 and no book. Too late now. My life story is long and I believe interesting but no motivation to put it down.
Just record it, no need o write it all down, someone later down the road will be happy to listen. :cool:
Quote from: Solar on December 31, 2021, 02:35:56 PMJust record it, no need o write it all down, someone later down the road will be happy to listen. :cool:
Thanks but no thanks. Each time I see my grandkids I attempt to tell them more about me, but in the whole scheme of things, it doesn't matter.
Quote from: jaminhealth on December 31, 2021, 04:02:33 PMThanks but no thanks. Each time I see my grandkids I attempt to tell them more about me, but in the whole scheme of things, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, but they're kids, they can't appreciate history, until they too, are old.
Everybody has stories, Toy. What sort of stories do you mean?
Quote from: TboneAgain on December 31, 2021, 05:57:29 PMEverybody has stories, Toy. What sort of stories do you mean?
In this case I was thinking of the positive stories we all have or maybe stories that taught us something that we found important to our lives. Something that may either save someone else the pain or at least to know someone else has felt it and understands.
Toy
That being said I believe this article is more about taking what others tell us with the understanding that the story may be biased or embellished.
Quote from: Solars Toy on December 31, 2021, 06:06:22 PMIn this case I was thinking of the positive stories we all have or maybe stories that taught us something that we found important to our lives. Something that may either save someone else the pain or at least to know someone else has felt it and understands.
Toy
That being said I believe this article is more about taking what others tell us with the understanding that the story may be biased or embellished.
OK, here is a story that was a life changer for me. Back in mid 70's I went to work for a metals brokerage company. The company imported metals for the steel, foundry, plating industries while we did all this work in the U.S. I was a good asst to the boss, he saw that in me and after a couple yrs said "order business cards etc and you are going on the road, outside sales, along with this came a company car. I said no, I can't do this and he said
Yes You Can. And I did, got into accounts the male force could not get into and it was all up and up believe me. PA's had to be tired of being pushed by males to "get an order".
I worked hard but had the energy and desire to do this, traveled the U.S., parts of Canada and into Mexico. Selling pig iron, foundry coke, zinc, cadmium, mercury (for thermometer making), zircon sands, all metals and products that went into making products. I was the only woman West of the Mississippi who was doing this work, I had a counterpart in our NYC office and she worked most of the E.C.
I really enjoyed what I was doing, worked hard and after 9 yrs burned out, I had no more blood to give...so I had to leave this rather high paying position for a "woman" in the 70's. The next job I took had me taking a 40K pay cut..But I was able to do it and can thank my "ulcer causing boss" thanks for the opportunity. BTW: I never got an ulcer from this job, but the guys said "he" didn't get ulcers, he caused them. As I said a real life changing experience. And know also, the more money one makes, the more one spends... j
Quote from: jaminhealth on December 31, 2021, 07:29:01 PMOK, here is a story that was a life changer for me. Back in mid 70's I went to work for a metals brokerage company. The company imported metals for the steel, foundry, plating industries while we did all this work in the U.S. I was a good asst to the boss, he saw that in me and after a couple yrs said "order business cards etc and you are going on the road, outside sales, along with this came a company car. I said no, I can't do this and he said Yes You Can. And I did, got into accounts the male force could not get into and it was all up and up believe me. PA's had to be tired of being pushed by males to "get an order".
I worked hard but had the energy and desire to do this, traveled the U.S., parts of Canada and into Mexico. Selling pig iron, foundry coke, zinc, cadmium, mercury (for thermometer making), zircon sands, all metals and products that went into making products. I was the only woman West of the Mississippi who was doing this work, I had a counterpart in our NYC office and she worked most of the E.C.
I really enjoyed what I was doing, worked hard and after 9 yrs burned out, I had no more blood to give...so I had to leave this rather high paying position for a "woman" in the 70's. The next job I took had me taking a 40K pay cut..But I was able to do it and can thank my "ulcer causing boss" thanks for the opportunity. BTW: I never got an ulcer from this job, but the guys said "he" didn't get ulcers, he caused them. As I said a real life changing experience. And know also, the more money one makes, the more one spends... j
I told a story in my life and no one else has???
JH - not everyone likes to share. That is just how it is. Toy
Quote from: jaminhealth on January 05, 2022, 03:57:27 PMI told a story in my life and no one else has???
I would, but mine is a work in progress.
https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/solar-s-30-years-of-off-grid-living/
Quote from: jaminhealth on January 05, 2022, 03:57:27 PMI told a story in my life and no one else has???
Yours is just too exciting, mine could/does not like up to it.
Quote from: Solars Toy on December 31, 2021, 06:06:22 PMIn this case I was thinking of the positive stories we all have or maybe stories that taught us something that we found important to our lives. Something that may either save someone else the pain or at least to know someone else has felt it and understands.
Toy
That being said I believe this article is more about taking what others tell us with the understanding that the story may be biased or embellished.
I have maybe ten or twenty THOUSAND stories like that. Maybe I can focus on a few that were especially meaningful.
It's on my schedule as of right now. :cool:
Quote from: Solar on December 31, 2021, 05:15:22 PMYeah, but they're kids, they can't appreciate history, until they too, are old.
Too many times, I think the kids don't even know they're making their own history as they go. Worked out for me that way a few more times than I'd like.
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 15, 2022, 05:34:47 PMToo many times, I think the kids don't even know they're making their own history as they go. Worked out for me that way a few more times than I'd like.
:smile:
Same here, but in all honesty, even my dumbest mistakes turned out to be gold.
I know, strange, but I wouldn't change a thing. Even my concussion/memory loss turned out to be cause for this forum.
I often wondered if life here is both Heaven and Hell at the same time. For me, it's been Heaven, but for others passing through my life, for them, it was Hell.
Wait, that didn't sound Right, I didn't make their lives Hell.....
Orrrrr did I ? :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on January 15, 2022, 07:14:44 PM:smile:
Same here, but in all honesty, even my dumbest mistakes turned out to be gold.
I know, strange, but I wouldn't change a thing. Even my concussion/memory loss turned out to be cause for this forum.
I often wondered if life here is both Heaven and Hell at the same time. For me, it's been Heaven, but for others passing through my life, for them, it was Hell.
Wait, that didn't sound Right, I didn't make their lives Hell.....
Orrrrr did I ? :biggrin:
Well, y'all were there at the same time and at the same place, so....
There are always winners and losers, though if you consider your life as the aggregate of the lives of those close to you, it ain't a zero-sum game.
I think it can get complicated. :biggrin:
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 15, 2022, 07:26:05 PMWell, y'all were there at the same time and at the same place, so....
There are always winners and losers, though if you consider your life as the aggregate of the lives of those close to you, it ain't a zero-sum game.
I think it can get complicated. :biggrin:
Unless you're sometimes socially oblivious like me. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on January 15, 2022, 07:27:37 PMUnless you're sometimes socially oblivious like me. :biggrin:
"Socially oblivious" sounds an awful lot like a wino excusing himself so he can take a leak in an alley.
If that's you, there's a lot you haven't shared! :lol:
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 15, 2022, 07:38:21 PM"Socially oblivious" sounds an awful lot like a wino excusing himself so he can take a leak in an alley.
If that's you, there's a lot you haven't shared! :lol:
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Nah, that would be considered polite. Here in the forest you don't excuse yourself, that would be considered attention seeking, you just turn around and hit a tree.
Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2022, 04:28:33 AM:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nah, that would be considered polite. Here in the forest you don't excuse yourself, that would be considered attention seeking, you just turn around and hit a tree.
How to tell the difference between country boys and city boys: two city boys are playing outside and have to pee, they run inside. two country boys are playing inside and have to pee, they run outside. :thumbup:
Quote from: Possum on January 16, 2022, 05:35:54 AMHow to tell the difference between country boys and city boys: two city boys are playing outside and have to pee, they run inside. two country boys are playing inside and have to pee, they run outside. :thumbup:
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Tooo True!!!
Every morning I get up, way earlier than Toy, I let the dogs out and we all hit a tree, that way I don't wake Toy.
Cold air seems to help a lot... :laugh:
Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2022, 05:38:12 AM:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Tooo True!!!
Every morning I get up, way earlier than Toy, I let the dogs out and we all hit a tree, that way I don't wake Toy.
Cold air seems to help a lot... :laugh:
Since the older generation has passed on we have the holidays at our place. Men go behind the shop, women go inside. It ain't the other side of the fence where the grass is greener. :scared:
Quote from: Possum on January 16, 2022, 05:43:18 AMSince the older generation has passed on we have the holidays at our place. Men go behind the shop, women go inside. It ain't the other side of the fence where the grass is greener. :scared:
True, too many are always searching, when in fact it's generally right in front of them.
Funny, my new neighbor just bought land next to me. This is Gods country, and both, he and his mom do nothing but stress over things that haven't happened and probably never will.
It's as if they are sabotaging their own future. I see it as winning the lottery and they'll be broke in no time and lose it all.
Does that make sense? Life is fleeting, worrying about things that will never occur is time wasted.
Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2022, 05:52:16 AMTrue, too many are always searching, when in fact it's generally right in front of them.
Funny, my new neighbor just bought land next to me. This is Gods country, and both, he and his mom do nothing but stress over things that haven't happened and probably never will.
It's as if they are sabotaging their own future. I see it as winning the lottery and they'll be broke in no time and lose it all.
Does that make sense? Life is fleeting, worrying about things that will never occur is time wasted.
Makes a lot of sense. The type of person that would complain even if you used a new rope to hang'em. My wife calls people like that vampires, they just seem to drain the energy out of everyone around them with their complaining.
Those are the kind of people who can ruin your day, or could back when I was working and had to deal with them. Now it's just me and my wife, our dog, cats, chickens, the turkey, cows, and wildlife. We have no problems with any of them. The animals i mean. Got relatives like that, their situation in life has always been the result and fault of what someone else did. Sorry, not in this country, maybe in a socialist utopia, but not here.
My grandfather had the best attitude in life I have known, one that I try daily to learn by. He was a farmer, always had been. Last generation in my family to have been, the next generations farmed on the side, but had to make money elsewhere. His faith was in God, his happiness was in family. He had what he needed, if he had any wants, I never knew of them. He saw alot in life, he was 10 years old when Quanah Parker died, a fact that showed me how fast life progresses.
Quote from: Possum on January 16, 2022, 05:35:54 AMHow to tell the difference between country boys and city boys: two city boys are playing outside and have to pee, they run inside. two country boys are playing inside and have to pee, they run outside. :thumbup:
Have never been able to figure out men's urge to pee outside. I spent six months with my brother at his home in a tiny rural Western Montana town. One winter night, I walked out onto the front porch to have a cigarette with my bro and found him standing at the rail, tucking himself back in. When I asked why urination couldn't wait until he could walk 20 feet to the bathroom, I just got the look. I thought he was a total rube.
Later, I asked my husband about this. My urban, sophisticated and very polite husband then told me that sometimes he simply wanted to walk out to the end of the back deck and let fly.
Is it just about wanting to show off the fact that you don't have to sit down to do it?
Quote from: Twinkle on February 10, 2022, 04:03:04 AMHave never been able to figure out men's urge to pee outside. I spent six months with my brother at his home in a tiny rural Western Montana town. One winter night, I walked out onto the front porch to have a cigarette with my bro and found him standing at the rail, tucking himself back in. When I asked why urination couldn't wait until he could walk 20 feet to the bathroom, I just got the look. I thought he was a total rube.
Later, I asked my husband about this. My urban, sophisticated and very polite husband then told me that sometimes he simply wanted to walk out to the end of the back deck and let fly.
Is it just about wanting to show off the fact that you don't have to sit down to do it?
I'm guessing when indoor plumbing came about, the women went indoors and the men stayed out. Could be most of men's work was outdoors and why make the trip? Could be it was just a way to cut back on septic use. Before air conditioning it was more comfortable outside in the summer. Most early homes only had one bathroom. Maybe it was our Mom's telling us,"if you can't aim any better than that, go outside!" I don't know but I have to admit this is the most I have ever thought about it. :lol:
Quote from: Possum on February 10, 2022, 04:28:48 AMI'm guessing when indoor plumbing came about, the women went indoors and the men stayed out. Could be most of men's work was outdoors and why make the trip? Could be it was just a way to cut back on septic use. Before air conditioning it was more comfortable outside in the summer. Most early homes only had one bathroom. Maybe it was our Mom's telling us,"if you can't aim any better than that, go outside!" I don't know but I have to admit this is the most I have ever thought about it. :lol:
That quote from mom says a lot. Being a female, I never heard it. Definitely something my grandma would have said, having lived with her two unmarried brothers until their deaths.
Quote from: Possum on February 10, 2022, 04:28:48 AMI'm guessing when indoor plumbing came about, the women went indoors and the men stayed out. Could be most of men's work was outdoors and why make the trip? Could be it was just a way to cut back on septic use. Before air conditioning it was more comfortable outside in the summer. Most early homes only had one bathroom. Maybe it was our Mom's telling us,"if you can't aim any better than that, go outside!" I don't know but I have to admit this is the most I have ever thought about it. :lol:
Well said P! :thumbsup:
I might add. Getting older, it gets harder to drain the bladder and the colder air makes your muscles contract better and you can go more, which is why I'll stand butt as naked on the back deck and pee in the snow.
That way I won't be getting up at 3:00 AM to pee.
Yes, there are reasons for male behavior. :lol:
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2022, 06:14:35 AMWell said P! :thumbsup:
I might add. Getting older, it gets harder to drain the bladder and the colder air makes your muscles contract better and you can go more, which is why I'll stand butt as naked on the back deck and pee in the snow.
That way I won't be getting up at 3:00 AM to pee.
Yes, there are reasons for male behavior. :lol:
I forgot the huge benefit, the lid always stays down. :lol:
Quote from: Possum on February 10, 2022, 06:17:07 AMI forgot the huge benefit, the lid always stays down. :lol:
What lid? You mean that obstruction that shrinks the target area? :lol:
Quote from: Twinkle on February 10, 2022, 04:03:04 AMHave never been able to figure out men's urge to pee outside. I spent six months with my brother at his home in a tiny rural Western Montana town. One winter night, I walked out onto the front porch to have a cigarette with my bro and found him standing at the rail, tucking himself back in. When I asked why urination couldn't wait until he could walk 20 feet to the bathroom, I just got the look. I thought he was a total rube.
Later, I asked my husband about this. My urban, sophisticated and very polite husband then told me that sometimes he simply wanted to walk out to the end of the back deck and let fly.
Is it just about wanting to show off the fact that you don't have to sit down to do it?
You answered your own question! It literally saves the hassle of tromping through the house to squirt into a dedicated plumbing appliance.
Where I live (Ohio) ESPECIALLY this time of year, we are renewing our perennial acquaintance with General Mud, the evil dude who has governed important battles and global migrations for thousands of years. Since we are not blessed with paved walkways, when I am outside, my shoes collect bits of the General. The very boot soles that allow me to propel myself through the mud naturally collect some of it with every step. My footprints on our hardwood floors are not hard to detect, and they do not go un-noticed.
It's simpler and a LOT easier to whiz outside. No muddy footprints, no slogging through the house, no worries about the missus being perched on the throne, no bitching. Perhaps most especially, no unlacing and relacing of the boots every time I come in the house!
There's also the benefit of fresh air, I think. Even the most private parts need a healthy breeze now and then.
Quote from: TboneAgain on February 10, 2022, 03:20:26 PMYou answered your own question! It literally saves the hassle of tromping through the house to squirt into a dedicated plumbing appliance.
Where I live (Ohio) ESPECIALLY this time of year, we are renewing our perennial acquaintance with General Mud, the evil dude who has governed important battles and global migrations for thousands of years. Since we are not blessed with paved walkways, when I am outside, my shoes collect bits of the General. The very boot soles that allow me to propel myself through the mud naturally collect some of it with every step. My footprints on our hardwood floors are not hard to detect, and they do not go un-noticed.
It's simpler and a LOT easier to whiz outside. No muddy footprints, no slogging through the house, no worries about the missus being perched on the throne, no bitching. Perhaps most especially, no unlacing and relacing of the boots every time I come in the house!
There's also the benefit of fresh air, I think. Even the most private parts need a healthy breeze now and then.
That's a wonderful explanation! Thanks! I like the idea that all of our bodies need the fresh air.
Quote from: Twinkle on February 10, 2022, 04:03:04 AMHave never been able to figure out men's urge to pee outside. I spent six months with my brother at his home in a tiny rural Western Montana town. One winter night, I walked out onto the front porch to have a cigarette with my bro and found him standing at the rail, tucking himself back in. When I asked why urination couldn't wait until he could walk 20 feet to the bathroom, I just got the look. I thought he was a total rube.
Later, I asked my husband about this. My urban, sophisticated and very polite husband then told me that sometimes he simply wanted to walk out to the end of the back deck and let fly.
Is it just about wanting to show off the fact that you don't have to sit down to do it?
It's natural, less messing up the bathroom, and more convenient. To me you're saying the equivalent of "why pick that apple off the tree? they sell them at the grocery store."
Quote from: Possum on February 10, 2022, 04:28:48 AMI'm guessing when indoor plumbing came about, the women went indoors and the men stayed out. Could be most of men's work was outdoors and why make the trip? Could be it was just a way to cut back on septic use. Before air conditioning it was more comfortable outside in the summer. Most early homes only had one bathroom. Maybe it was our Mom's telling us,"if you can't aim any better than that, go outside!" I don't know but I have to admit this is the most I have ever thought about it. :lol:
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Let's just say there's no golf course in metro Atlanta that I have not watered. Peeing at home outside is so much better than peeing on the golf course while trying to avoid the rangers. The only times I've seen the inside of a golf course bathroom was when I had a #2 emergency.
Quote from: taxed on February 10, 2022, 04:02:08 PMIt's natural, less messing up the bathroom, and more convenient. To me you're saying the equivalent of "why pick that apple off the tree? they sell them at the grocery store."
I can get behind the "less messing up the bathroom" part. :lol:
Quote from: Twinkle on February 10, 2022, 04:06:53 PMI can get behind the "less messing up the bathroom" part. :lol:
Definitely. Here's a little secret about guys: we'll naturally gravitate towards the option that's easier with less resistance. The less work involved, the better. When I have to take a leak, outside is the first option. If it's too public, or it's not convenient, or I have nice pants on and need to make sure I don't have any mistakes, or I don't have shoes on and it's too cold outside, then I'll pee inside.
Otherwise, we'll look around for another person to see if we can guarantee a 15-30 second block of time where nobody is coming. I do that ALL THE TIME on my walks. I'm shocked that in all my years of golf course peeing, and walking on populated hiking trails, that I've never been caught in public.
Quote from: taxed on February 10, 2022, 04:13:48 PMDefinitely. Here's a little secret about guys: we'll naturally gravitate towards the option that's easier with less resistance. The less work involved, the better. When I have to take a leak, outside is the first option. If it's too public, or it's not convenient, or I have nice pants on and need to make sure I don't have any mistakes, or I don't have shoes on and it's too cold outside, then I'll pee inside.
Otherwise, we'll look around for another person to see if we can guarantee a 15-30 second block of time where nobody is coming. I do that ALL THE TIME on my walks. I'm shocked that in all my years of golf course peeing, and walking on populated hiking trails, that I've never been caught in public.
Want to know the easiest way to do a job, assign it to a lazy person.
Quote from: Possum on February 10, 2022, 04:36:58 PMWant to know the easiest way to do a job, assign it to a lazy person.
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That is 100% the truth!
Quote from: TboneAgain on February 10, 2022, 03:20:26 PMYou answered your own question! It literally saves the hassle of tromping through the house to squirt into a dedicated plumbing appliance.
Where I live (Ohio) ESPECIALLY this time of year, we are renewing our perennial acquaintance with General Mud, the evil dude who has governed important battles and global migrations for thousands of years. Since we are not blessed with paved walkways, when I am outside, my shoes collect bits of the General. The very boot soles that allow me to propel myself through the mud naturally collect some of it with every step. My footprints on our hardwood floors are not hard to detect, and they do not go un-noticed.
It's simpler and a LOT easier to whiz outside. No muddy footprints, no slogging through the house, no worries about the missus being perched on the throne, no bitching. Perhaps most especially, no unlacing and relacing of the boots every time I come in the house!
There's also the benefit of fresh air, I think. Even the most private parts need a healthy breeze now and then.
I feel yer mud!
My soil is predominantly clay, ancient river bottom turned on end forming the Sierra Nevada mtn range of shale/clay and quartz.
Dust, finer than talcum powder is a constant battle that we've surrendered to the layer that permeates every crevice of the house.
That and dogs that hit the creek daily tracking it in, we just gave up. And the wife thought I was nuts when I blew out the house with a leaf blower.
Now she's fine with it, with the exception of having to put everything away that might blow out the front door.
One neighbor stopped in the road and came running, thought my house was on fire. Nope, just dust and Spring cleaning...
Quote from: taxed on February 10, 2022, 04:39:51 PM:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That is 100% the truth!
When I worked in highway construction, I was technically classed as a laborer. I can tell you for a fact that every laborer I ever met knows exactly how any job can get done with practically no physical labor when there's an equipment operator around.
Quote from: TboneAgain on February 10, 2022, 05:30:04 PMWhen I worked in highway construction, I was technically classed as a laborer. I can tell you for a fact that every laborer I ever met knows exactly how any job can get done with practically no physical labor when there's an equipment operator around.
Ha, absolutely.
Quote from: TboneAgain on February 10, 2022, 05:30:04 PMWhen I worked in highway construction, I was technically classed as a laborer. I can tell you for a fact that every laborer I ever met knows exactly how any job can get done with practically no physical labor when there's an equipment operator around.
As a heavy equipment operator, I can attest to the fact that labor is essential.
They are your eyes, they tell you where you are, they guide you to where you need your bucket or blade.
To this day I use a spotter when I'm on the dozer.
They may never turn a shovel full, but they are crucial in completing a job safe and effectively.
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2022, 05:47:11 PMAs a heavy equipment operator, I can attest to the fact that labor is essential.
They are your eyes, they tell you where you are, they guide you to where you need your bucket or blade.
To this day I use a spotter when I'm on the dozer.
They may never turn a shovel full, but they are crucial in completing a job safe and effectively.
The dude on the ground keeps you from looking like a clown. I worked as a grade checker for many years. Coupled with the fact that I could read and write, it meant that I naturally advanced into supervision.
You use a spotter because you can't SEE the cutting edge. You use a spotter because you can't SEE the knuckle joint of your excavator. You use a spotter because you can't SEE the cutting edge on your grader blade, and you don't know for sure if it's high or low. You manage tons of steel that move back and forth, but you can't SEE what you're doing because those tons of steel are blocking your view.
I was the eyeballs for a lot of years.
Quote from: TboneAgain on February 10, 2022, 06:00:29 PMThe dude on the ground keeps you from looking like a clown. I worked as a grade checker for many years. Coupled with the fact that I could read and write, it meant that I naturally advanced into supervision.
You use a spotter because you can't SEE the cutting edge. You use a spotter because you can't SEE the knuckle joint of your excavator. You use a spotter because you can't SEE the cutting edge on your grader blade, and you don't know for sure if it's high or low. You manage tons of steel that move back and forth, but you can't SEE what you're doing because those tons of steel are blocking your view.
I was the eyeballs for a lot of years.
And believe me, without those extra eyes, we'd have spent HOURS fixing the fuckup!
"Oh, you need the loader, sheeps foot and the roller again before you can finish the job you just fucked up?"
Seen it more than a few times. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2022, 06:07:00 PMAnd believe me, without those extra eyes, we'd have spent HOURS fixing the fuckup!
"Oh, you need the loader, sheeps foot and the roller again before you can finish the job you just fucked up?"
Seen it more than a few times. :biggrin:
Yep. You gouged it! :blink:
Lots of people know what a sheeps-foot compactor looks like, but I like the lore that goes with it -- the Romans or Greeks or somebody a really long time ago using herds of sheep to compact their dirt fills.
Quote from: TboneAgain on February 10, 2022, 06:11:03 PMYep. You gouged it! :blink:
Lots of people know what a sheeps-foot compactor looks like, but I like the lore that goes with it -- the Romans or Greeks or somebody a really long time ago using herds of sheep to compact their dirt fills.
I knew it came from the concept of sheep packing ground, but I didn't know it was from that era. Fascinating...
Quote from: Solar on February 10, 2022, 06:27:34 PMI knew it came from the concept of sheep packing ground, but I didn't know it was from that era. Fascinating...
There are stories from WWII of temporary runways being made in deep snow by platoons of soldiers force-marched in patterns. The principle is the same.
Animals like sheep, swine, and cattle feature relatively large body weights along with cloven hooves, small, hard footprints that concentrate their weight/mass pressure into tiny areas. Somebody, somewhere along the line, must have noticed the "hardening" result where these animals traveled.
Quote from: taxed on February 10, 2022, 04:13:48 PMDefinitely. Here's a little secret about guys: we'll naturally gravitate towards the option that's easier with less resistance. The less work involved, the better. When I have to take a leak, outside is the first option. If it's too public, or it's not convenient, or I have nice pants on and need to make sure I don't have any mistakes, or I don't have shoes on and it's too cold outside, then I'll pee inside.
Otherwise, we'll look around for another person to see if we can guarantee a 15-30 second block of time where nobody is coming. I do that ALL THE TIME on my walks. I'm shocked that in all my years of golf course peeing, and walking on populated hiking trails, that I've never been caught in public.
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Quote from: Twinkle on February 11, 2022, 02:50:53 AM:lol:
Just one last point here. When I first bought my raw land, I had a motorhome, and no running water, so water was at a premium until I could pump from the spring.
In other words, flushing the toilet would be a luxury one would do once a day.
Outside was just a way of life. We start as boys, then mom trains us to polite, then we get older and revert to being boys again.
Then we get really old and don't care where we go, so I guess one could say it
Depends . :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on February 11, 2022, 05:46:37 AMJust one last point here. When I first bought my raw land, I had a motorhome, and no running water, so water was at a premium until I could pump from the spring.
In other words, flushing the toilet would be a luxury one would do once a day.
Outside was just a way of life. We start as boys, then mom trains us to polite, then we get older and revert to being boys again.
Then we get really old and don't care where we go, so I guess one could say it Depends . :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hilarious!
I am able to see the benefit of having a bathroom that's not actually in the house. I wouldn't mind using an outhouse, just to get the business of sanitation out away from the home. I have a big empty unused (for now) basement, and I do my less pleasant bathroom business down there.
Quote from: Twinkle on February 11, 2022, 05:52:35 AMHilarious!
I am able to see the benefit of having a bathroom that's not actually in the house. I wouldn't mind using an outhouse, just to get the business of sanitation out away from the home. I have a big empty unused (for now) basement, and I do my less pleasant bathroom business down there.
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On occasion while laying in bed, I turn to the wife, "Honey, did you fa..."
NO!!!!
The damn septic on occasion dies and the gases waft into the bedroom, a skunk has a more pleasing odor. :unsure:
Quote from: Solar on February 11, 2022, 06:08:50 AM:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
On occasion while laying in bed, I turn to the wife, "Honey, did you fa..."
NO!!!!
The damn septic on occasion dies and the gases waft into the bedroom, a skunk has a more pleasing odor. :unsure:
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Living in a small rural town, I am learning the idiosyncrasies. We're on a sewer system and the most bizarre thing happens when we have windy days. The water level in the toilet rises and falls visibly and the stink that comes out of the toilet is pretty rough. I need to remind myself to talk to someone from the city about it. It's a mystery.
Quote from: Twinkle on February 11, 2022, 06:25:46 AM:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Living in a small rural town, I am learning the idiosyncrasies. We're on a sewer system and the most bizarre thing happens when we have windy days. The water level in the toilet rises and falls visibly and the stink that comes out of the toilet is pretty rough. I need to remind myself to talk to someone from the city about it. It's a mystery.
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Poor engineering and growth plays havoc on older systems.
I remember when Sacramento went from a sleepy Cowtown to a huge metropolis, the growing pains were felt by all, from flooding to failed sewer systems.
And how did they solve it? They raised the hell out of taxes on those who built the city, so those moving in would suffer the burden of paying for the improvements they were responsible.
You know, typical socialism.
I thought this rather fitting. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Quote from: taxed on February 10, 2022, 04:13:48 PMDefinitely. Here's a little secret about guys: we'll naturally gravitate towards the option that's easier with less resistance. The less work involved, the better. When I have to take a leak, outside is the first option. If it's too public, or it's not convenient, or I have nice pants on and need to make sure I don't have any mistakes, or I don't have shoes on and it's too cold outside, then I'll pee inside.
Otherwise, we'll look around for another person to see if we can guarantee a 15-30 second block of time where nobody is coming. I do that ALL THE TIME on my walks. I'm shocked that in all my years of golf course peeing, and walking on populated hiking trails, that I've never been caught in public.
That precious "block of time" isn't always easy to come by!
Years ago I was working for a paving company. Our paver operator, whose name was Mike, but everybody called him "Big Daddy," hopped off the paver between trucks and waded into some roadside bushes to whiz. The woman who owned the property spotted him and called the cops. We all got to watch Big Daddy being led to the cruiser in handcuffs while the woman stood with her arms crossed on her front porch, looking very Karen-ish.
When we got to the road adjacent to the woman's driveway, we had to provide her with an asphalt driveway approach. You should have seen the bizarre thing we built out of our black sticky rocks for that nice lady.