And they are not just coming from Central America. A band of over 500 Haitians crossed over yesterday. And over 191,000 in July, topping 180,000 in June. Where is Biden putting them all? And the Liberal Press is just ignoring this catastrophe totally.
And people thought the GOP was on our side, Americas side. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The Dims are in a mad dash to permanently change the demographics of the country. It started with Ted Kennedy's 1965 immigration act, that's how the globalists got their foot in the door.
Quote from: Mimsy on July 20, 2021, 11:46:36 AMThe Dims are in a mad dash to permanently change the demographics of the country. It started with Ted Kennedy's 1965 immigration act, that's how the globalists got their foot in the door.
What they didnt count on is that many of these people turned to God while suffering in their communist homelands, and they brought their love of God and their hate for communism with them.
Quote from: T Hunt on July 20, 2021, 12:43:29 PMWhat they didnt count on is that many of these people turned to God while suffering in their communist homelands, and they brought their love of God and their hate for communism with them.
Other than Cubans who?
Quote from: T Hunt on July 20, 2021, 12:43:29 PMWhat they didnt count on is that many of these people turned to God while suffering in their communist homelands, and they brought their love of God and their hate for communism with them.
I pray you are right.Otherwise sooner rather than later America will be a third world nation.
Quote from: Mimsy on July 20, 2021, 12:49:59 PMOther than Cubans who?
Well, aren't alot of Mexicans and other south Americans catholic?
And while not necessarily communist per se, the countries they come from are often very corrupt and endure other forms of tyranny, or have in their recent histories.
The spanish and portuguese colonies in the new world were very different from the one made by the english, dutch, germans, and french in north america. They fostered a culture of strong-men and tyranny which persisted in those counties even after they threw off their spanish overlords.
Quote from: T Hunt on July 20, 2021, 01:17:31 PMWell, aren't alot of Mexicans and other south Americans catholic?
And while not necessarily communist per se, the countries they come from are often very corrupt and endure other forms of tyranny, or have in their recent histories.
The spanish and portuguese colonies in the new world were very different from the one made by the english, dutch, germans, and french in north america. They fostered a culture of strong-men and tyranny which persisted in those counties even after they threw off their spanish overlords.
Every stat I've seen shows Mexican and South Americans vote overwhelmingly Dim. That's why Dims have such a raging hardon for them come to come by the millions. Same for African immigrants. If these people were republicans you would the tightest border security in history.
Quote from: Mimsy on July 20, 2021, 01:27:19 PMEvery stat I've seen shows Mexican and South Americans vote overwhelmingly Dim. That's why Dims have such a raging hardon for them come to come by the millions. Same for African immigrants. If these people were republicans you would the tightest border security in history.
I never said the majority become right, I think the ones in the cities are indeed corrupted by the leftists there, but I think the ones who settled in rural america have done a good job integrating and picking up american values.
However the entire millenial generation, foreigners included, have been brainwashed thru schools and entertainment media.
Quote from: Mimsy on July 20, 2021, 01:27:19 PMEvery stat I've seen shows Mexican and South Americans vote overwhelmingly Dim. That's why Dims have such a raging hardon for them come to come by the millions. Same for African immigrants. If these people were republicans you would the tightest border security in history.
I think that might have been true in the past, but many are coming here because we are America and I would suspect they can see thru the shit show that has become the democrat party.
Quote from: Possum on July 20, 2021, 01:42:35 PMI think that might have been true in the past, but many are coming here because we are America and I would suspect they can see thru the shit show that has become the democrat party.
They still wave the american flag when demanding freedom from their tyrants.
It's hard to find newer stats on the issue but it does appear Asians are starting to lean right! :thumbup:
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Quote from: Mimsy on July 20, 2021, 01:27:19 PMEvery stat I've seen shows Mexican and South Americans vote overwhelmingly Dim. That's why Dims have such a raging hardon for them come to come by the millions. Same for African immigrants. If these people were republicans you would the tightest border security in history.
Nah, that's more of both party's political BS. The Dims want you to think that, and the GOP enforces it, while doing nothing to stop it. Both party's for differing reasons want to flood the country with illegals.
Oh, and Venezuelans coming in want no part of socialism, that's why they came.
Quote from: Possum on July 20, 2021, 01:42:35 PMI think that might have been true in the past, but many are coming here because we are America and I would suspect they can see thru the shit show that has become the democrat party.
The latest voting stats I seem to find are from 2012-or so. Can you find anything more up to date? Everything I see is from back then, and shows majority support for Dims amongst legal immigrants. Certainly this latest mass influx of illegals will all vote Dim, if the Dims get their way on election integrity (or lack there of) If these economic migrants pouring through the border were all flag waving freedom loving new Republican Americans, the border would shut faster than a whores pussy after your credit card is declined. :biggrin:
Quote from: Mimsy on July 20, 2021, 02:09:29 PMThe latest voting stats I seem to find are from 2012-or so. Can you find anything more up to date? Everything I see is from back then, and shows majority support for Dims amongst legal immigrants. Certainly this latest mass influx of illegals will all vote Dim, if the Dims get their way on election integrity (or lack there of) If these economic migrants pouring through the border were all flag waving freedom loving new Republican Americans, the border would shut faster than a whores pussy after your credit card is declined. :biggrin:
We now have evidence of Marxist corruption, so any so called study is most certainly tainted.
I'd venture to guess most of those votes were either stolen or bought.
Here in Ca the left, for decades have used the identities of illegals to steal the vote, and not a single illegal is going to speak up, they're illegal.
But when their names are used, they're suddenly legal, on paper. No one has ever challenged it, especially not the GOP Establishment.
As a rule everyone hates communist's, (Especially those South of the border) but the GOP has never challenged the DNC, because they're both corrupt and both want cheap labor.
We're on point to get over 2 million illegal democrats this year alone from over 150 countries. Many of them have criminal records and of course they will be here permanently and will change this country forever. Strange how this doesn't seem to bother anyone here. :blink:
Quote from: Mimsy on July 22, 2021, 07:21:00 PMWe're on point to get over 2 million illegal democrats this year alone from over 150 countries. Many of them have criminal records and of course they will be here permanently and will change this country forever. Strange how this doesn't seem to bother anyone here. :blink:
You seem to think all those stats released by the DNC were true, that they automatically vote leftist, when in fact we know they've been cheating for decades.
Don't think for a second all those escaping a socialists life, want it to continue here, especially when you consider the majority of them are Christian, whose values do not align with the DNC platform.
Let's just say the jig is up on the left and their fraud. And don't be shocked when the vote tally goes to the GOP favor.
Fraudulent elections are a thing of the past.
Quote from: Mimsy on July 20, 2021, 01:27:19 PMEvery stat I've seen shows Mexican and South Americans vote overwhelmingly Dim. That's why Dims have such a raging hardon for them come to come by the millions. Same for African immigrants. If these people were republicans you would the tightest border security in history.
I believe you are correct. This is one of the reasons that the Dems hated President Trump so, he was messing with their future voting base. This is also the reason that the Dems wanted to defraud the election as well.
Quote from: Surfguy74 on July 20, 2021, 10:07:30 AMAnd they are not just coming from Central America. A band of over 500 Haitians crossed over yesterday. And over 191,000 in July, topping 180,000 in June. Where is Biden putting them all? And the Liberal Press is just ignoring this catastrophe totally.
You sound more mad at the leftists than the GOP for fighting against an audit that puts Trump back in the White House.
Why?
Quote from: Mimsy on July 20, 2021, 01:27:19 PMEvery stat I've seen shows Mexican and South Americans vote overwhelmingly Dim. That's why Dims have such a raging hardon for them come to come by the millions. Same for African immigrants. If these people were republicans you would the tightest border security in history.
Wendy Davis disagrees with you.
Quote from: Solar on July 22, 2021, 07:33:14 PMYou seem to think all those stats released by the DNC were true, that they automatically vote leftist, when in fact we know they've been cheating for decades.
Don't think for a second all those escaping a socialists life, want it to continue here, especially when you consider the majority of them are Christian, whose values do not align with the DNC platform.
Let's just say the jig is up on the left and their fraud. And don't be shocked when the vote tally goes to the GOP favor.
Fraudulent elections are a thing of the past.
I really hope you are correct. I agree that the DNC has been committing fraud for YEARS, at every election. The only difference is that they got caught this time. The fact that the courts out of one side of their mouth, state that witness statements and videos are important while saying out of the other side of their mouth that THESE witness statements and videos aren't, is troubling to me.
I would certainly hope and pray that elections are cleaned up but, I have a hard time believing that they will be. There are too many liberals who are willing to sell out to foreign interests. I also believe that now that we've made China wealthy, that they have the money to bribe liberals wantonly. Now that the fraud is out in the open and "acceptable" (to some), I'm not sure that elections will ever be free nor fair again.
Quote from: RV on July 23, 2021, 06:56:09 AMI really hope you are correct. I agree that the DNC has been committing fraud for YEARS, at every election. The only difference is that they got caught this time. The fact that the courts out of one side of their mouth, state that witness statements and videos are important while saying out of the other side of their mouth that THESE witness statements and videos aren't, is troubling to me.
I would certainly hope and pray that elections are cleaned up but, I have a hard time believing that they will be. There are too many liberals who are willing to sell out to foreign interests. I also believe that now that we've made China wealthy, that they have the money to bribe liberals wantonly. Now that the fraud is out in the open and "acceptable" (to some), I'm not sure that elections will ever be free nor fair again.
You're Right, but there's on huge difference this time. The RINO have been exposed for their part in the crime and the people are taking it away from the party's and putting it in the hands of the public.
This scares the shit out of the left the most, because States like Ca are about to recall Fuglosi's commie nephew and there isn't a thing they can do to stop it, because the RINO are powerless to interfere.
Point being, the people are now in charge of the elections, not the Uniparty.
Quote from: Solar on July 22, 2021, 07:33:14 PMYou seem to think all those stats released by the DNC were true, that they automatically vote leftist, when in fact we know they've been cheating for decades.
Don't think for a second all those escaping a socialists life, want it to continue here, especially when you consider the majority of them are Christian, whose values do not align with the DNC platform.
Let's just say the jig is up on the left and their fraud. And don't be shocked when the vote tally goes to the GOP favor.
Fraudulent elections are a thing of the past.
Why in the fuck would I use DNC stats? I use US government stats. And I don't give a shit about their votes either way, this is an invasion and you guys are just hoping all these criminals will vote repulican. Totally ridiculous!
Quote from: RV on July 22, 2021, 08:20:45 PMI believe you are correct. This is one of the reasons that the Dems hated President Trump so, he was messing with their future voting base. This is also the reason that the Dems wanted to defraud the election as well.
Thank you! :thumbup:
Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 11:40:21 AMWhy in the fuck would I use DNC stats? I use US government stats. And I don't give a shit about their votes either way, this is an invasion and you guys are just hoping all these criminals will vote repulican. Totally ridiculous!
Because the govt is leftist, that's why! There is but a single Uniparty, both feed the lie that these people all vote lockstep Marxist, that is a flat out lie!
Do you ever stop and breakdown what is being claimed against what you know in reality?
This is called critical thinking, try it. Look at the stuff you post and think about it seriously, ask yourself, is this true?
Could all these people be escaping socialism, just to bring it here and live suppressed once again?
The GOP lives the lie as well as a tool of division, the lie that somehow they're against illegal immigration, (see Koch Bros).
Point is, the stats all lie, regardless of who released them, including our very own Govt. Just look at Ca, the lie is all of these illegals voted DNC of their own free will, where 30% were complete fraud thanks to the DNC, and the rest under duress, or simply stolen.
If you were an illegal living here and a certain party told you to vote in their favor, or face deportation, how would you vote?
Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 01:11:47 PMBecause the govt is leftist, that's why! There is but a single Uniparty, both feed the lie that these people all vote lockstep Marxist, that is a flat out lie!
Do you ever stop and breakdown what is being claimed against what you know in reality?
This is called critical thinking, try it. Look at the stuff you post and think about it seriously, ask yourself, is this true?
Could all these people be escaping socialism, just to bring it here and live suppressed once again?
The GOP lives the lie as well as a tool of division, the lie that somehow they're against illegal immigration, (see Koch Bros).
Point is, the stats all lie, regardless of who released them, including our very own Govt. Just look at Ca, the lie is all of these illegals voted DNC of their own free will, where 30% were complete fraud thanks to the DNC, and the rest under duress, or simply stolen.
If you were an illegal living here and a certain party told you to vote in their favor, or face deportation, how would you vote?
The stats I've seen and quoted are from LEGAL immigrants, they overwhelmingly support the Dims as over 50% of them are on some form of welfare. That's why there's a push to have as much 3rd world immigration as possible both legal and illegal. Then it's a simple matter of granting amnesty and they'll have their one party rule forever.
Oh btw, I live in the twin cities. We are overrun with 3rd world legal and illegal immigrants. Somali's for example are all on section 8 and these people all vote Marxist, and will forever.
Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 01:18:31 PMThe stats I've seen and quoted are from LEGAL immigrants, they overwhelmingly support the Dims as over 50% of them are on some form of welfare. That's why there's a push to have as much 3rd world immigration as possible both legal and illegal. Then it's a simple matter of granting amnesty and they'll have their one party rule forever.
So Nationwide, eh? :rolleyes:
Provide those stats and I'll shred the shit out of them! This is what you get for not using critical thought and falling for the leftist hype, designed to freak the shit out of you, EMOTIONALLY!!!
Thought over emotion, lose the ire and attack the shit out of these stats when they're released instead of doing exactly what the left wanted you doing, freakin out.
Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 01:27:59 PMSo Nationwide, eh? :rolleyes:
Provide those stats and I'll shred the shit out of them! This is what you get for not using critical thought and falling for the leftist hype, designed to freak the shit out of you, EMOTIONALLY!!!
Thought over emotion, lose the ire and attack the shit out of these stats when they're released instead of doing exactly what the left wanted you doing, freakin out.
Why don't you provide some evidence for your claims?
Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 02:01:29 PMWhy don't you provide some evidence for your claims?
Commonsense is pretty hard to back up. I've been doing this for a long time, it's knowledge gleaned over decades of wisdom.
You too will develop a second sense for this stuff in the not so distant future..
Trust nothing. As Reagan would say, "Trust, but verify". Never take anything at face value, especially where politics is concerned, question it all, and ask yourself, why are they telling us this and what is it they aren't telling us, What are they distracting us from, and Always Follow the Money.
Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 02:50:30 PMCommonsense is pretty hard to back up. I've been doing this for a long time, it's knowledge gleaned over decades of wisdom.
You too will develop a second sense for this stuff in the not so distant future..
Trust nothing. As Reagan would say, "Trust, but verify". Never take anything at face value, especially where politics is concerned, question it all, and ask yourself, why are they telling us this and what is it they aren't telling us, What are they distracting us from, and Always Follow the Money.
I admit I have a lot to learn. Lets just talk about both legal and illegal immigration. There are around 50 million foreign born immigrants in the country, for now. 27% and rising are illegal aliens than means around 37.5 million of them are legal voters. With all the handouts, freebies and zero incentives to assimilate why would they vote for republican's who encourage independence, self reliance and self improvement? :smile:
Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 03:34:47 PMI admit I have a lot to learn. Lets just talk about both legal and illegal immigration. There are around 50 million foreign born immigrants in the country, for now. 27% and rising are illegal aliens than means around 37.5 million of them are legal voters. With all the handouts, freebies and zero incentives to assimilate why would they vote for republican's who encourage independence, self reliance and self improvement? :smile:
Hate to throw this out there, but immigrants, legal and illegal can not vote in a federal election.
Quotehttps://www.stilt.com/blog/2020/07/2020-election-and-immigrants/
QuoteIn the US, voting takes place at three levels: federal, state, and local. As per the rules, generally, lawful permanent residents aren't allowed to cast their votes unless they become naturalized US citizens.
Stop watching cnn.
Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 03:34:47 PMI admit I have a lot to learn. Lets just talk about both legal and illegal immigration. There are around 50 million foreign born immigrants in the country, for now. 27% and rising are illegal aliens than means around 37.5 million of them are legal voters. With all the handouts, freebies and zero incentives to assimilate why would they vote for republican's who encourage independence, self reliance and self improvement? :smile:
They get welfare regardless of the party. You do know, it's the GOP who feigns disgust for illegal immigration, Right?
The Uniparty plays a game, they've been doing this for decades, the DNC demand this or that, the GOP says "Oh no, you can't have that", then they sit down and pretend to do the work of the people while conveniently caving to the left, EVERY DAMN TIME.
They've been doing this for decades, that's why we're in the mess we're in.
Illegals know this game, they aren't stupid, but most want to work for a living, they're used to hard work, that's why the GOP loves them, they can pay them cheaper than Americans demand.
Follow the money...
Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 04:28:13 PMThey get welfare regardless of the party. You do know, it's the GOP who feigns disgust for illegal immigration, Right?
The Uniparty plays a game, they've been doing this for decades, the DNC demand this or that, the GOP says "Oh no, you can't have that", then they sit down and pretend to do the work of the people while conveniently caving to the left, EVERY DAMN TIME.
They've been doing this for decades, that's why we're in the mess we're in.
Illegals know this game, they aren't stupid, but most want to work for a living, they're used to hard work, that's why the GOP loves them, they can pay them cheaper than Americans demand.
Follow the money...
Uni-party! I love it! :thumbsup: You're right, follow the stinking money, right to the global elites who own everything.
Oops, I screwed up my last post. :blush:
Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 05:35:22 PMUni-party! I love it! :thumbsup: You're right, follow the stinking money, right to the global elites who own everything.
That's it exactly! These people are not there to represent Americans, they're in it for the money.
Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 05:43:08 PMThat's it exactly! These people are not there to represent Americans, they're in it for the money.
So why are elites in such a mad rush to bring in millions of illegal 3rd world immigrants?
Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 06:18:34 PMSo why are elites in such a mad rush to bring in millions of illegal 3rd world immigrants?
I think the elites buy their own propaganda. I really think the leaders of the left believe the bullshit that the MSM puts out to try to brainwash US. Thats one reason they keep making bad decisions, because they dont live in reality, even the leaders. They are all lead by the devil, the father of lies, and he deceives even his own minions.
Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 06:18:34 PMSo why are elites in such a mad rush to bring in millions of illegal 3rd world immigrants?
Simple. They are trying to crash the economy, they hate America. Everything they're doing is to create pain and strife, they want a civil war so they can declare martial law and that would be the end of our Constitution, Permanently.
Notice that only but a few Pubs are fighting the good fight, while the RINO leadership sit quietly by doing absolutely nothing.
Point is, both party's know it's over, that they have lost the support of the American people and they know they'll be voted out in 2022, so they need to damage us as badly as possible on the way out in hopes of collapsing our society.
I'd explain it in detail, but it would take about an hour and I don't have the energy, so maybe another time.
Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 08:18:03 PMSimple. They are trying to crash the economy, they hate America. Everything they're doing is to create pain and strife, they want a civil war so they can declare martial law and that would be the end of our Constitution, Permanently.
Notice that only but a few Pubs are fighting the good fight, while the RINO leadership sit quietly by doing absolutely nothing.
Point is, both party's know it's over, that they have lost the support of the American people and they know they'll be voted out in 2022, so they need to damage us as badly as possible on the way out in hopes of collapsing our society.
I'd explain it in detail, but it would take about an hour and I don't have the energy, so maybe another time.
Actually, you said a great deal! Just the fact that there are people within the US who hate this country, hate its workers, hate the opportunities that America offers, hate the peace and prosperity, hate its exceptionalism, hate its form of government, hate its election process, hate its exports, hate its immigration process, hate its flag, hate what it stands for, hate freedom, hate liberty, hate the Bill of Rights and are working constantly to destroy America and make it a Communist country from within is saying a lot!
Quote from: RV on July 24, 2021, 10:26:38 AMActually, you said a great deal! Just the fact that there are people within the US who hate this country, hate its workers, hate the opportunities that America offers, hate the peace and prosperity, hate its exceptionalism, hate its form of government, hate its election process, hate its exports, hate its immigration process, hate its flag, hate what it stands for, hate freedom, hate liberty, hate the Bill of Rights and are working constantly to destroy America and make it a Communist country from within is saying a lot!
Yep, that's it in a nutshell, if they can't institute communism, they'll burn us down as we kick them out.
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2021, 10:55:48 AMYep, that's it in a nutshell, if they can't institute communism, they'll burn us down as we kick them out.
I hope the American people realize that. there is a very hard core of leftist who hate and despise this country and the people who make it great. I am not sure the democrat party understands what they created. I think they understand what they think they created, but these hard core leftist hate the democrats more than they hate the conservatives. When you look at what Portland or Seattle or, hell pick any liberal run city, has allowed from antifa/blm, that did not result in a unified democrat party. When antifa/blm feel they can accomplish it, they will take over city hall and there goes the ones in charge.
Quote from: Possum on July 24, 2021, 11:45:50 AMI hope the American people realize that. there is a very hard core of leftist who hate and despise this country and the people who make it great. I am not sure the democrat party understands what they created. I think they understand what they think they created, but these hard core leftist hate the democrats more than they hate the conservatives. When you look at what Portland or Seattle or, hell pick any liberal run city, has allowed from antifa/blm, that did not result in a unified democrat party. When antifa/blm feel they can accomplish it, they will take over city hall and there goes the ones in charge.
Though it's far more complex than I want to go into. Suffice it to say, the DNC no longer has a base, instead, they were forced to settle for the radicals, as you point out, BLM and antifa, a Soros controlled group is now all the DNC has for support, (love hate relationship) both share the same end result, destroy Western Culture.
Thing about BLM and antifa is, they're in essence propped up by the media, they made them look bigger than they are.
Their numbers seldom amounted to more than 100 at a time, and that was after bussing in the majority of them, who then move onto the next venue/state/city.
They only get away with this shit in lib cities where cowards live. They have yet to successfully attack a Red city, let alone hit rural America.
My point is, what we see and what is reality, are polar opposites of the truth.
The Left is now, in essence, without power and what little they do project, will be short lived..
This has turned into a fascinating thread! I've learned a lot. :smile:
Quote from: Mimsy on July 26, 2021, 11:49:09 AMThis has turned into a fascinating thread! I've learned a lot. :smile:
:thumbup:
That's what we strive for.
Quote from: Surfguy74 on July 20, 2021, 10:07:30 AMAnd they are not just coming from Central America. A band of over 500 Haitians crossed over yesterday. And over 191,000 in July, topping 180,000 in June. Where is Biden putting them all? And the Liberal Press is just ignoring this catastrophe totally.
Will Biden's $4B to stop Central American immigration make a difference?Value of remittances from the U.S. far exceeds that of proposed American aid (https://coloradonewsline.com/2021/06/11/will-bidens-4b-to-stop-central-american-immigration-make-a-difference/)
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 01:39:14 PMhttps://coloradonewsline.com/2021/06/11/will-bidens-4b-to-stop-central-american-immigration-make-a-difference/]Will Biden's $4B to stop Central American immigration make a difference?
Value of remittances from the U.S. far exceeds that of proposed American aid[/url]
Two things. One, never bury a link!
Second. What was your point?
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2021, 01:42:45 PMTwo things. One, never bury a link!
Second. What was your point?
Biden is trying to stop the flow. The problem is, like Mexico, the money coming back from the people working here is a ton of money.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 02:03:55 PMBiden is trying to stop the flow. The problem is, like Mexico, the money coming back from the people working here is a ton of money.
Trump was trying to stop the flow.
Quote from: Possum on August 01, 2021, 02:09:35 PMTrump was trying to stop the flow.
Only with President Trump it DIDN'T take billions of our tax dollars to "stop the flow of illegals"!
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 02:03:55 PMBiden is trying to stop the flow. The problem is, like Mexico, the money coming back from the people working here is a ton of money.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Did they pay you to say that?
You do know he could simply close the border, Right? :rolleyes:
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 02:03:55 PMBiden is trying to stop the flow. The problem is, like Mexico, the money coming back from the people working here is a ton of money.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: you ARE dumber than a box of rocks.
HELL biden and his STOOGES is the one's that open the flow at the border. One word and biden could stop it, he open it.
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2021, 04:35:05 PM:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Did they pay you to say that?
You do know he could simply close the border, Right? :rolleyes:
Did someone pay me to relay news relevant to the topic? No.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 06:49:56 PMDid someone pay me to relay news relevant to the topic? No.
No, they paid you to play the fool.The border is wide open, and you think the DNC, doing payola to another nation, somehow constitutes slowing the spread of illegals to the US?
Man, that has to be the stupidest line of thought to ever cross this forum!
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2021, 06:53:59 PMNo, they paid you to play the fool.
The border is wide open, and you think the DNC, doing payola to another nation, somehow constitutes slowing the spread of illegals to the US?
Man, that has to be the stupidest line of thought to ever cross this forum!
There is no "fool". Like it or not... Agree or not.... The federal government has a legal asylum policy. Yes, Trump "shut it down" , but but people still came seeking asylum while he was President.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 06:58:30 PMThere is no "fool". Like it or not... Agree or not.... The federal government has a legal asylum policy. Yes, Trump "shut it down" , but but people still came seeking asylum while he was President.
Nice try troll, but the fact remains, that it was a payoff to another country for, most likely their help in moving our Nation towards communism.
How fuckin thick are you that you can't see that simply closing the damned border would solve this problem?
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2021, 07:01:52 PMNice try troll, but the fact remains, that it was a payoff to another country for, most likely their help in moving our Nation towards communism.
How fuckin thick are you that you can't see that simply closing the damned border would solve this problem?
There is no basis for that belief. It is most likely what it appears to be: people are trying to escape a shithole of a country and, like many people, the US generally welcomes legitimate asylum seekers. That's has always been America's belief and it's something both parties, and most Americans agree with...
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 07:06:37 PMThere is no basis for that belief.
Bull Shit! It's the Marxist DNC!
Quote"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
The Statue of Liberty was originally meant to be a symbol that celebrated the abolition of slavery, but its close proximity to Ellis Island and Lazarus' poem saw it morph into a symbol of America's immigrant tradition.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 07:06:37 PMThere is no basis for that belief.
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Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2021, 07:27:42 PMBull Shit! It's the Marxist DNC!
Hyperbole aside...there's no factual basis for your belief.
The Statue of Liberty was originally meant to be a symbol that celebrated the abolition of slavery, but its close proximity to Ellis Island and Lazarus' poem saw it morph into a symbol of America's immigrant tradition.
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The US has always welcomed immigrants and asylum seekers. Again, most people see this as being "American"... Except Trump apparently.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 07:44:59 PMHyperbole aside...there's no factual basis for your belief.
The Statue of Liberty was originally meant to be a symbol that celebrated the abolition of slavery, but its close proximity to Ellis Island and Lazarus' poem saw it morph into a symbol of America's immigrant tradition.
The US has always welcomed immigrants and asylum seekers. Again, most people see this as being "American"... Except Trump apparently.
https://www.businessinsider.com/history-poem-statue-of-liberty-keeps-coming-up-trump-era-2019-8
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2021, 08:13:44 PMhttps://www.businessinsider.com/history-poem-statue-of-liberty-keeps-coming-up-trump-era-2019-8
Right.... The poem has become symbolic of the US commitment to welcoming people to the US who are looking for a better life and opportunity.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 08:20:09 PMRight.... The poem has become symbolic of the US commitment to welcoming people to the US who are looking for a better life and opportunity.
It is the illegal part people have a problem with. We do not know who or what is pouring across the border. Trump never tried to stop legal immigration, he tried to shut down the illegal, which biden has blown wide open.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 07:06:37 PMThere is no basis for that belief. It is most likely what it appears to be: people are trying to escape a shithole of a country and, like many people, the US generally welcomes legitimate asylum seekers. That's has always been America's belief and it's something both parties, and most Americans agree with...
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
I guess I must be in that "minority" then because I DON'T believe that coming to America illegally should be excused, given asylum, government benefits or granted citizenship! I will NEVER believe that lawlessness should be rewarded.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 08:20:09 PMRight.... The poem has become symbolic of the US commitment to welcoming people to the US who are looking for a better life and opportunity.
Wow, I think Taxed may be Right, you must be a paid troll FOR Trump.
You were sent here just to make us look good. No one is this stupid unless they're paid to be. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Possum on August 02, 2021, 04:28:15 AMIt is the illegal part people have a problem with. We do not know who or what is pouring across the border. Trump never tried to stop legal immigration, he tried to shut down the illegal, which biden has blown wide open.
Which part is illegal? All asylum seekers "cross the border" (if they didn't, there wouldn't be a basis for apprehending them) where the are then detained for processing and vetting.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 07:54:40 AMWhich part is illegal?
Like all liberals, you cannot tell which is right and which is wrong. So I'll break it down into english that even a child could understand. Breaking the law (i.e. immigration law), by sneaking into the United States REGARDLESS of why nor where one comes from is ILLEGAL. Illegal meaning that one is breaking the law. It is illegal to rape, rob, steal or come into the United States by illegal means. There ARE ports of entry if one wants to come here LEGALLY with proper paperwork but, sneaking in another way is ILLEGAL (i.e. against the law).
Bet you will still claim that you don't "understand" since that seems to be the M.O. of EVERY left winger. It worked for HRC, it worked for Bill, it worked for Obama, it worked for Hunter and it's worked so far for Beijing and his sidekick. Too bad the average American cannot claim ignorance of the law and get away with criminal behavior...
Quote from: RV on August 02, 2021, 08:57:31 AMLike all liberals, you cannot tell which is right and which is wrong. So I'll break it down into english that even a child could understand. Breaking the law (i.e. immigration law), by sneaking into the United States REGARDLESS of why nor where one comes from is ILLEGAL. Illegal meaning that one is breaking the law. It is illegal to rape, rob, steal or come into the United States by illegal means. There ARE ports of entry if one wants to come here LEGALLY with proper paperwork but, sneaking in another way is ILLEGAL (i.e. against the law).
Bet you will still claim that you don't "understand" since that seems to be the M.O. of EVERY left winger. It worked for HRC, it worked for Bill, it worked for Obama, it worked for Hunter and it's worked so far for Beijing and his sidekick. Too bad the average American cannot claim ignorance of the law and get away with criminal behavior...
Part of the asylum process
is crossing the border illegally and being arrested. That's why the much hyped "child cages" were used. In order to request asylum, the person HAS to cross the border illegally, be detained and processed. A CBT agent can't arrest someone if they don't illegally cross the border to initiate the process. CBT can't, for example, go into Mexico and detain someone.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 10:43:06 AMPart of the asylum process is crossing the border illegally and being arrested. That's why the much hyped "child cages" were used. In order to request asylum, the person HAS to cross the border illegally, be detained and processed. A CBT agent can't arrest someone if they don't illegally cross the border to initiate the process. CBT can't, for example, go into Mexico and detain someone.
Have you forgotten that Trump had set up a program with Mexico that kept these people in Mexico until their asylum appeal could be heard?
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 10:43:06 AMPart of the asylum process is crossing the border illegally and being arrested. That's why the much hyped "child cages" were used. In order to request asylum, the person HAS to cross the border illegally, be detained and processed. A CBT agent can't arrest someone if they don't illegally cross the border to initiate the process. CBT can't, for example, go into Mexico and detain someone.
Then why did biden not allow Cubans to immigrate, they were seeking asylum. Can't have it both ways.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 07:54:40 AMWhich part is illegal? All asylum seekers "cross the border" (if they didn't, there wouldn't be a basis for apprehending them) where the are then detained for processing and vetting.
We have a legal way to immigrate to this country, the vast majority of our ancestors did just that. Anything other than the legal way is illegal. Period.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 10:43:06 AMPart of the asylum process is crossing the border illegally and being arrested. That's why the much hyped "child cages" were used. In order to request asylum, the person HAS to cross the border illegally, be detained and processed. A CBT agent can't arrest someone if they don't illegally cross the border to initiate the process. CBT can't, for example, go into Mexico and detain someone.
Ah yes, like all left wingers, claim that breaking the law is necessary for citizenship...
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 01, 2021, 07:44:59 PMHyperbole aside...there's no factual basis for your belief.
The Statue of Liberty was originally meant to be a symbol that celebrated the abolition of slavery, but its close proximity to Ellis Island and Lazarus' poem saw it morph into a symbol of America's immigrant tradition.
The US has always welcomed immigrants and asylum seekers. Again, most people see this as being "American"... Except Trump apparently.
There's a big difference between legal immigration and people streaming across the border illegally and then playing our broken asylum system. 22 million illegal aliens are proof.
Quote from: Mimsy on August 02, 2021, 11:48:22 AMThere's a big difference between legal immigration and people streaming across the border illegally and then playing our broken asylum system. 22 million illegal aliens are proof.
As I said previously, whether you agree or not, like it or not, the process is legal and the federal government isn't breaking any laws by utilizing the process.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 12:03:50 PMAs I said previously, whether you agree or not, like it or not, the process is legal and the federal government isn't breaking any laws by utilizing the process.
Wrong!!!
We actually have quotas per country!
Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2021, 12:22:59 PMWrong!!!
We actually have quotas per country!
The U.S. immigration laws do not set a limit on the number of people who can be awarded asylum in the United States each year. The number of asylum grants varies, depending on how many people apply (either of their own volition or as a defense to deportation), and how many of them are successful with their asylum claim.
Don't be confused by the fact that there is a limit on the number of people who can be awarded refugee status each year. The U.S. president establishes this limit on an annual basis. Although the grounds for receiving asylum status and refugee status are the same (as set forth in the refugee definition found in § 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act or I.N.A., or 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(42)), the procedural requirements are different, and these two categories are treated differently.
See below for further discussion of the distinction between asylum status and refugee status.
The number of asylees tends to run about 25,000 per year. To get the latest figures on how many people have been awarded asylum as well as refugee status in given years, go to the Department of Homeland Security's website, which includes a page on Immigration Statistics. Look for the latest "Refugees and Asylees" report.
https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/how-many-people-can-get-asylum.html
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 12:26:47 PMThe number of asylees tends to run about 25,000 per year.
And where are we now genius, how many millions have applied and entered? I have a sneaking suspicion it way past 25K.
Is Trump paying you to make us look good? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 12:26:47 PMThe U.S. immigration laws do not set a limit on the number of people who can be awarded asylum in the United States each year. The number of asylum grants varies, depending on how many people apply (either of their own volition or as a defense to deportation), and how many of them are successful with their asylum claim.
Don't be confused by the fact that there is a limit on the number of people who can be awarded refugee status each year. The U.S. president establishes this limit on an annual basis. Although the grounds for receiving asylum status and refugee status are the same (as set forth in the refugee definition found in § 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act or I.N.A., or 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(42)), the procedural requirements are different, and these two categories are treated differently.
See below for further discussion of the distinction between asylum status and refugee status.
The number of asylees tends to run about 25,000 per year. To get the latest figures on how many people have been awarded asylum as well as refugee status in given years, go to the Department of Homeland Security's website, which includes a page on Immigration Statistics. Look for the latest "Refugees and Asylees" report.
https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/how-many-people-can-get-asylum.html
This is not about asylum, had it been, people from Cuba would have not been banned by biden. Had this been about asylum, those arrested would be in jail until their hearing. This is about flooding the country with illegals. And no, biden is doing nothing about stemming the tide. Like stated before there is a legally way to immigrate to this country, all else is illegal. This is about illegal immigration.
Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2021, 12:34:33 PMAnd where are we now genius, how many millions have applied and entered? I have a sneaking suspicion it way past 25K.
Is Trump paying you to make us look good? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Again, there is no limit. An average is not a limit.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 02, 2021, 10:43:06 AMPart of the asylum process is crossing the border illegally and being arrested. That's why the much hyped "child cages" were used. In order to request asylum, the person HAS to cross the border illegally, be detained and processed. A CBT agent can't arrest someone if they don't illegally cross the border to initiate the process. CBT can't, for example, go into Mexico and detain someone.
p1tchblack, you have gone over the top with your BS.
You do not have to brake the law to become a citizens.
Like always your flinging poo just to see if anything will stick.
I am giving you a timeout.
Quote from: walkstall on August 02, 2021, 01:00:40 PMp1tchblack, you have gone over the top with your BS.
You do not have to brake the law to become a citizens.
Like always your flinging poo just to see if anything will stick.
I am giving you a timeout.
He just cant seem to help himself from lying and parroting lies.
Quote from: T Hunt on August 02, 2021, 02:06:43 PMHe just cant seem to help himself from lying and parroting lies.
He's a damn troll!
Quote from: tac on August 02, 2021, 03:52:46 PMHe's a damn troll!
And a damn poor paid troll at that!
I have been saying for a while that trolls like PB need to walk the plank. They provide zero entertainment IMHO. This is serious business for WE THE PEOPLE THAT LOVE AMERICA and want our country back.
Quote from: esbad63 on August 04, 2021, 10:56:08 AMI have been saying for a while that trolls like PB need to walk the plank. They provide zero entertainment IMHO. This is serious business for WE THE PEOPLE THAT LOVE AMERICA and want our country back.
They know it and that's what they're paid to do, create doubt, but as you've noticed, PB failed at every turn. :biggrin:
Quote from: walkstall on August 02, 2021, 01:00:40 PMp1tchblack, you have gone over the top with your BS.
You do not have to brake the law to become a citizens.
Like always your flinging poo just to see if anything will stick.
I am giving you a timeout.
You run the site, so you can do whatever you'd like, including putting words in my mouth that I didn't say, because I never said you HAD to break the law to become a citizen. The thread is about asylum seekers who are flooding the border, not just anyone who wants to become a citizen.
What I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.
Under immigration law, the United States allows people who come to this country to file an asylum claim if they "have suffered persecution or fear they will suffer persecution" due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, according to the United States Citizenship Services website.
Asylum seekers arriving at the border are making a case not just to be let into the country, but to be allowed to stay. Here is how it works:
First step
The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AMYou run the site, so you can do whatever you'd like, including putting words in my mouth that I didn't say, because I never said you HAD to break the law to become a citizen. The thread is about asylum seekers who are flooding the border, not just anyone who wants to become a citizen.
What I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.
Under immigration law, the United States allows people who come to this country to file an asylum claim if they "have suffered persecution or fear they will suffer persecution" due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, according to the United States Citizenship Services website.
Asylum seekers arriving at the border are making a case not just to be let into the country, but to be allowed to stay. Here is how it works:
First step
The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html
Genuine "asylum seekers" do NOT have to break the law, this is a Democrat lie in order to nullify immigration laws. If one is a genuine, honest and truthful "asylum seeker" then they should welcome going through LEGALLY at the port of entry, NOT illegally. Secondly, if one is TRULY fleeing their country of origin for reasons of safety, they would want to follow all of the laws of the country that they are going to.
I have to agree that you are "flinging poo" hoping that something sticks. I will say one thing for you, you have the Democrat narrative down pat. I just wish you were a little more honest and truthful!
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AMYou run the site, so you can do whatever you'd like, including putting words in my mouth that I didn't say, because I never said you HAD to break the law to become a citizen. The thread is about asylum seekers who are flooding the border, not just anyone who wants to become a citizen.
What I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.
Under immigration law, the United States allows people who come to this country to file an asylum claim if they "have suffered persecution or fear they will suffer persecution" due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, according to the United States Citizenship Services website.
Asylum seekers arriving at the border are making a case not just to be let into the country, but to be allowed to stay. Here is how it works:
First step
The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html
According to your own article the denial rate is as high as 80%, they are not being deported as REQUIRED BY LAW. Those who are not deported are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Like the title of this thread say, nothing is being done.
QuoteFor Central Americans, the denial rate is closer to 80 percent. Those who are not granted asylum face a final order of removal and must leave the country or risk deportation.
Quote from: RV on August 11, 2021, 05:33:06 AMGenuine "asylum seekers" do NOT have to break the law, this is a Democrat lie in order to nullify immigration laws. If one is a genuine, honest and truthful "asylum seeker" then they should welcome going through LEGALLY at the port of entry, NOT illegally. Secondly, if one is TRULY fleeing their country of origin for reasons of safety, they would want to follow all of the laws of the country that they are going to.
I have to agree that you are "flinging poo" hoping that something sticks. I will say one thing for you, you have the Democrat narrative down pat. I just wish you were a little more honest and truthful!
Again,
the current discussion is about people flooding the border. That is what I'm talking about. It's all of you who are bringing up other situations, not me.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AMYou run the site, so you can do whatever you'd like, including putting words in my mouth that I didn't say, because I never said you HAD to break the law to become a citizen. The thread is about asylum seekers who are flooding the border, not just anyone who wants to become a citizen.
What I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.
Under immigration law, the United States allows people who come to this country to file an asylum claim if they "have suffered persecution or fear they will suffer persecution" due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, according to the United States Citizenship Services website.
Asylum seekers arriving at the border are making a case not just to be let into the country, but to be allowed to stay. Here is how it works:
First step
The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html
Now, show us the law where we're forced by law to accept a million people?
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AMWhat I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.
BS asylum seekers do not have to cross the border illegally, to initiate the asylum process. Show us the law that asylum seekers have to cross the border illegally to get asylum process started.
Quote from: Possum on August 11, 2021, 05:33:38 AMAccording to your own article the denial rate is as high as 80%, they are not being deported as REQUIRED BY LAW. Those who are not deported are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Like the title of this thread say, nothing is being done.
Based on what do you say they aren't being deported as required? The fact that a lot come to the border doesn't change the requirements to get past the initial screening done at the border and move on to the next steps.
Quote from: walkstall on August 11, 2021, 06:32:35 AMBS asylum seekers do not have to cross the border illegally, to initiate the asylum process. Show us the law that asylum seekers have to cross the border illegally to get asylum process started.
It's part of the process for those who follow the established process. They have to step foot into US soil. If an asylum seeker at one of the ports if entry, never takes the step across the border which, by virtue of the fact that they are not US citizens and therefore are legally allowed to cross the border, IS crossing illegally! They are then detained and evaluated. None of this is new. This has been the process for decades.
First step
The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 07:18:55 AMIt's part of the process for those who follow the established process. They have to step foot into US soil. If an asylum seeker at one of the ports if entry, never takes the step across the border which, by virtue of the fact that they are not US citizens and therefore are legally allowed to cross the border, IS crossing illegally! They are then detained and evaluated. None of this is new. This has been the process for decades.
First step
The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html
Fuck that! They crossed several borders, anyone of which where they could have applied for asylum, in a country that speaks their native language.
The US is in no way obligated to taking in millions of people wanting a different life. If they want to come here, they can follow the law and apply like everyone else while they wait in another country!
Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2021, 08:12:59 AMFuck that! They crossed several borders, anyone of which where they could have applied for asylum, in a country that speaks their native language.
The US is in no way obligated to taking in millions of people wanting a different life. If they want to come here, they can follow the law and apply like everyone else while they wait in another country!
I don't disagree that they could have requested asylum in Mexico, but chose to go to the US. However, the US policy for asylum seekers at the border exists.
The US approves an average of 25k asylum seekers/year despite the fact that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, come to the border seeking asylum. At this point, I see no evidence that the US has accepted "millions" of asylees.
(https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/588/include/figure1.svg)
https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/588/include/figure1.svg
Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2021, 08:12:59 AMFuck that! They crossed several borders, anyone of which where they could have applied for asylum, in a country that speaks their native language.
The US is in no way obligated to taking in millions of people wanting a different life. If they want to come here, they can follow the law and apply like everyone else while they wait in another country!
I see his timeout do not stop his poo flinging BS.
I will state AGAIN...
This discussion is about the flood of asylum seekers at the border. I stated how the process works for those people. I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek citizenship. I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek asylum. I've never that the ONLY way to seek asylum/citizenship is to illegally cross the border. I never said that they couldn't stop in Mexico. Those are all words that have been put into my mouth by posters here.
As I said in my first post today... those who run the site can do as they please and if it pleases them to ban me for things I didn't say, so be it.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 09:02:34 AMI will state AGAIN...
This discussion is about the flood of asylum seekers at the border. I stated how the process works for those people. I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek citizenship. I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek asylum. I've never that the ONLY way to seek asylum/citizenship is to illegally cross the border. I never said that they couldn't stop in Mexico. Those are all words that have been put into my mouth by posters here.
As I said in my first post today... those who run the site can do as they please and if it pleases them to ban me for things I didn't say, so be it.
Wait, you're under the illusion that we're supposed to accept a flood of illegals, because of a loophole in the law? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 09:02:34 AMI will state AGAIN...
This discussion is about the flood of asylum seekers at the border. I stated how the process works for those people. I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek citizenship. I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek asylum. I've never that the ONLY way to seek asylum/citizenship is to illegally cross the border. I never said that they couldn't stop in Mexico. Those are all words that have been put into my mouth by posters here.
As I said in my first post today... those who run the site can do as they please and if it pleases them to ban me for things I didn't say, so be it.
Like all liberal Democrats, it's what you DON'T say that people are focusing on. It's true that you DIDN'T say that ALL asylum seekers HAVE to come here illegally but, you excused it and implied that crossing illegally is a requirement for asylum.
Breaking the law for any reason is breaking the law. One cannot commit armed robbery and then claim that they only robbed because they had no food nor money. One cannot commit murder and then claim that it was self defense. One cannot molest a child and then claim that it was all brought on by the child.
Liberals want to excuse lawlessness and do away with the Constitution. Conservatives want law and order and the Constitution to be upheld.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 08:40:34 AMI don't disagree that they could have requested asylum in Mexico, but chose to go to the US. However, the US policy for asylum seekers at the border exists.
The US approves an average of 25k asylum seekers/year despite the fact that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, come to the border seeking asylum. At this point, I see no evidence that the US has accepted "millions" of asylees.
(https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/588/include/figure1.svg)
https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/588/include/figure1.svg
Because you don't want the truth!
https://summit.news/2021/06/30/half-a-million-illegals-crossed-since-harris-named-border-czar/
https://nworeport.me/2021/08/09/over-1-million-people-entered-u-s-illegally-in-first-six-months-of-2021/
Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2021, 09:06:39 AMWait, you're under the illusion that we're supposed to accept a flood of illegals, because of a loophole in the law? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
If there are "loopholes" in the law, you can bet your lunch money that those loopholes exist for Democrats to get around the law, circumvent the law and ignore it.
Quote from: RV on August 11, 2021, 09:14:17 AMIf there are "loopholes" in the law, you can bet your lunch money that those loopholes exist for Democrats to get around the law, circumvent the law and ignore it.
Even though they created them after the fact, they never changed the laws prior, which only makes them "Loopholes", and you're Right, the Uniparty created them when no one was looking.
Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2021, 09:12:35 AMBecause you don't want the truth!
https://summit.news/2021/06/30/half-a-million-illegals-crossed-since-harris-named-border-czar/
https://nworeport.me/2021/08/09/over-1-million-people-entered-u-s-illegally-in-first-six-months-of-2021/
The CBP says around 180,000 immigrants are being caught per month. In April agents arrested 178,854 illegal immigrants, the highest monthly figure for 21 years. That figure was then surpassed in May as agents apprehended 180,034 illegals.This is why we have CBP and a border wall/fence - to catch people who are crossing illegally. You're referencing an article that shows that CBP is doing their job. We should all be happy this is the case.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 09:29:06 AMThe CBP says around 180,000 immigrants are being caught per month. In April agents arrested 178,854 illegal immigrants, the highest monthly figure for 21 years. That figure was then surpassed in May as agents apprehended 180,034 illegals.
This is why we have CBP and a border wall/fence - to catch people who are crossing illegally. You're referencing an article that shows that CBP is doing their job. We should all be happy this is the case.
Look, you can continue to ignore the reality that the left is in the process of destroying the US, and until we get these Marxists out of office, nothing will change.
But Right now, we're focused on the big lie. We are in the process taking the country back, and no amount of distraction on your part is going to change that!
"Stop The Steal"! It won't be long now.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 07:15:20 AMBased on what do you say they aren't being deported as required? The fact that a lot come to the border doesn't change the requirements to get past the initial screening done at the border and move on to the next steps.
https://libertyconservativenews.com/report-less-than-40-of-illegal-aliens-in-immigration-court-are-being-deported/
QuoteSimilarly, the number of illegal aliens in immigration court who the government has allowed to stay in the US has grown by 113% since the fiscal year of 2020.
The latest I've heard is that some of these Marxist "charities" are actually forcing ICE to NOT deport individuals , including violent felons.
Quote from: Mimsy on August 11, 2021, 11:55:29 AMThe latest I've heard is that some of these Marxist "charities" are actually forcing ICE to NOT deport individuals , including violent felons.
:thumbup: That's the whole point of the thread, nothing is being done. Less than 40% of those who show up for their hearing and can not get amnesty are deported, and that does not include the thousands who do not even show up. We have some posters who can not see what the big picture is all about.
Quote from: Possum on August 11, 2021, 11:45:37 AMhttps://libertyconservativenews.com/report-less-than-40-of-illegal-aliens-in-immigration-court-are-being-deported/
We are talking about two different things, again. Your article references people who have already made it through the initial border screenings and are released into the US awaiting their court hearing. On average, the US allows 25k asylees per year into the country after passing the initial screenings. What your 40% appears to reference is what percent of those 25k are actually allowed to stay after their court hearing.
Yes, given the flood of asylum seekers at the border, it makes sense that the courts that her their cases would see an increase. There is no data on how many are actually being permitted to stay.
Quote from: Possum on August 11, 2021, 12:03:23 PM:thumbup: That's the whole point of the thread, nothing is being done. Less than 40% of those who show up for their hearing and can not get amnesty are deported, and that does not include the thousands who do not even show up. We have some posters who can not see what the big picture is all about.
The founders would be at the border rifles in hand. Why is nobody doing anything about this? Obviously this administration is doing this on purpose, circumventing existing laws. If there is no rule of law anymore what's stopping us from ending this invasion?
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 12:05:49 PMWe are talking about two different things, again. Your article references people who have already made it through the initial border screenings and are released into the US awaiting their court hearing. On average, the US allows 25k asylees per year into the country after passing the initial screenings. What your 40% appears to reference is what percent of those 25k are actually allowed to stay after their court hearing.
Yes, given the flood of asylum seekers at the border, it makes sense that the courts that her their cases would see an increase. There is no data on how many are actually being permitted to stay.
The initial border screening are a joke, read what the agents have to say on the matter, they basically take down names and try to get a promise from them to get a court date, which most do not get. The other article I posted showed 80% are turned down for asylum, and are supposed to leave the country, but nothing is being done to get them out.
Uh oh, PB is pissed that we dont allow his lies without evidence :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry troll, only critical thinking based on facts here. No left wing fairytales or conspiracy theories.
Notice that PB is NOT on the thread about the cyber symposium. Almost like his job is to distract us from it...
Quote from: Possum on August 11, 2021, 12:13:33 PMThe initial border screening are a joke, read what the agents have to say on the matter, they basically take down names and try to get a promise from them to get a court date, which most do not get. The other article I posted showed 80% are turned down for asylum, and are supposed to leave the country, but nothing is being done to get them out.
Based on what is the border screenings a joke? My understanding is that it's a two step process to evaluate the credibility of the fear/situation of the asylum seeker. Humanitarian groups criticize them as being too strict.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 03:39:55 PMBased on what is the border screenings a joke? My understanding is that it's a two step process to evaluate the credibility of the fear/situation of the asylum seeker. Humanitarian groups criticize them as being too strict.
As I said in the post, look up what the border agents are saying. There is a crisis on the border, biden is doing nothing to correct this. The only people being turned down are those from Cuba who need asylum protection, but they do not fit the needs of the dnc.
Quote from: Mimsy on August 11, 2021, 12:13:03 PMThe founders would be at the border rifles in hand. Why is nobody doing anything about this? Obviously this administration is doing this on purpose, circumventing existing laws. If there is no rule of law anymore what's stopping us from ending this invasion?
You ask a astounding and interesting question. Democrats seem to use the law when it suits them, ignore, circumvent or go around it when it doesn't. There are far more of us than there is these Marxists so, why can't we go around the law like they do? The Democrats lie, cheat and steal without consequence why can't the rest of the country?
Quote from: RV on August 11, 2021, 06:46:28 PMYou ask a astounding and interesting question. Democrats seem to use the law when it suits them, ignore, circumvent or go around it when it doesn't. There are far more of us than there is these Marxists so, why can't we go around the law like they do? The Democrats lie, cheat and steal without consequence why can't the rest of the country?
We need to as ruthless as left if we're going to ever win imo.
Quote from: Possum on August 11, 2021, 03:45:17 PMAs I said in the post, look up what the border agents are saying.
I looked, but couldn't find any comments from CBP agents about the screening
QuoteThere is a crisis on the border, biden is doing nothing to correct this.
'The Border Is Not Open': Biden Administration Seeks Foreign Aid To Slow Migration
President Biden wants "explicit commitments" from Central American governments that they are fighting corruption as part of that effort. Therefore, his administration's proposed $4 billion in U.S. aid to the region wouldn't go to government leaders if approved by Congress, but to communities and international organizations to address economic opportunity, climate change mitigation, inequality and violence.
The only people being turned down are those from Cuba who need asylum protection, but they do not fit the needs of the dnc.
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/10/975758760/the-border-is-not-open-biden-administration-seeks-foreign-aid-to-slow-migration
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 12, 2021, 09:19:29 AMI looked, but couldn't find any comments from CBP agents about the screening
'The Border Is Not Open': Biden Administration Seeks Foreign Aid To Slow Migration
President Biden wants "explicit commitments" from Central American governments that they are fighting corruption as part of that effort. Therefore, his administration's proposed $4 billion in U.S. aid to the region wouldn't go to government leaders if approved by Congress, but to communities and international organizations to address economic opportunity, climate change mitigation, inequality and violence.
The only people being turned down are those from Cuba who need asylum protection, but they do not fit the needs of the dnc.
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/10/975758760/the-border-is-not-open-biden-administration-seeks-foreign-aid-to-slow-migration
https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-border-agent-gives-inside-account-of-overcrowded-facilities_3746058.html
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/03/22/border-patrol-releasing-illegal-immigrants-without-court-date-n381045
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/amid-surge-border-agents-rio-grande-valley-now-releasing-migrants-n1261720
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/03/22/cbp-admits-release-of-migrant-families-without-court-date-downplays-as-normal/
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/05/13/overwhelmed-border-agents-dont-have-resources-they-need-texas-lawmaker-says/
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/05/05/former-acting-homeland-security-chief-weighs-in-on-biden-border-crisis/
The border is wide open, period. It is only closed to those who come from Cuba and Haiti who need asylum as they are fleeing a communist country, and that is an order from the demented fool himself, biden.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 12, 2021, 09:19:29 AMI looked, but couldn't find any comments from CBP agents about the screening
'The Border Is Not Open': Biden Administration Seeks Foreign Aid To Slow Migration
President Biden wants "explicit commitments" from Central American governments that they are fighting corruption as part of that effort. Therefore, his administration's proposed $4 billion in U.S. aid to the region wouldn't go to government leaders if approved by Congress, but to communities and international organizations to address economic opportunity, climate change mitigation, inequality and violence.
The only people being turned down are those from Cuba who need asylum protection, but they do not fit the needs of the dnc.
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/10/975758760/the-border-is-not-open-biden-administration-seeks-foreign-aid-to-slow-migration
How naive can you be? If you believe banana republic leaders are going to do anything I have some beach property in eastern Colorado you might like.
Quote from: Possum on August 12, 2021, 10:10:23 AMhttps://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-border-agent-gives-inside-account-of-overcrowded-facilities_3746058.html
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/03/22/border-patrol-releasing-illegal-immigrants-without-court-date-n381045
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/amid-surge-border-agents-rio-grande-valley-now-releasing-migrants-n1261720
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/03/22/cbp-admits-release-of-migrant-families-without-court-date-downplays-as-normal/
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/05/13/overwhelmed-border-agents-dont-have-resources-they-need-texas-lawmaker-says/
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/05/05/former-acting-homeland-security-chief-weighs-in-on-biden-border-crisis/
The border is wide open, period. It is only closed to those who come from Cuba and Haiti who need asylum as they are fleeing a communist country, and that is an order from the demented fool himself, biden.
No, the border is not wide open. CBT is still doing the required screenings and turning away those who don't meet the requirements.
All that is mentioned is that some are being released without a court date, which I don't agree with.
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 12, 2021, 12:59:44 PMNo, the border is not wide open. CBT is still doing the required screenings and turning away those who don't meet the requirements.
All that is mentioned is that some are being released without a court date, which I don't agree with.
It is obvious you did not read the articles, they said the opposite.
Of course he did not read the articles, he's a troll. He claims he 'searched' and could not find any information; which is also a lie. His answers are always a steaming pile of shit, why bother. :thumbdown:
Quote from: Possum on August 12, 2021, 01:17:57 PMIt is obvious you did not read the articles, they said the opposite.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: p1tchblack on August 12, 2021, 12:59:44 PMNo, the border is not wide open. CBT is still doing the required screenings and turning away those who don't meet the requirements.
All that is mentioned is that some are being released without a court date, which I don't agree with.
How about those that are being released? You do realize how shallow and naive your posts are?
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2021, 12:27:17 PMThough it's far more complex than I want to go into. Suffice it to say, the DNC no longer has a base, instead, they were forced to settle for the radicals, as you point out, BLM and antifa, a Soros controlled group is now all the DNC has for support, (love hate relationship) both share the same end result, destroy Western Culture.
Thing about BLM and antifa is, they're in essence propped up by the media, they made them look bigger than they are.
Their numbers seldom amounted to more than 100 at a time, and that was after bussing in the majority of them, who then move onto the next venue/state/city.
They only get away with this shit in lib cities where cowards live. They have yet to successfully attack a Red city, let alone hit rural America.
My point is, what we see and what is reality, are polar opposites of the truth.
The Left is now, in essence, without power and what little they do project, will be short lived..
Hate to bring up an old post on this thread, But what you said nailed it. IMHO, that shows two options happening. either the few who are actually running the show for the DNC are hell bent on destroying the country or those in charge are leading the party to the big bowl of kool-aid. One item I am sure on, had Trump had the support of even half of the republicans, we would not be in this mess.
Quote from: Possum on August 14, 2021, 05:51:37 AMHate to bring up an old post on this thread, But what you said nailed it. IMHO, that shows two options happening. either the few who are actually running the show for the DNC are hell bent on destroying the country or those in charge are leading the party to the big bowl of kool-aid. One item I am sure on, had Trump had the support of even half of the republicans, we would not be in this mess.
You are absolutely right IMO! What Republicans failed to realize is that there were and are quasi-Republicans (aka RINOs), who were against President Trump, against America and against the American people. I truly believe that these RINOs are actually Democrats who have infiltrated the Republican party in hopes of making the Republican party as morally defunct as the Democrats are.
Had most Republicans stuck to their party and not listened to the liberal media, President Trump would still be in the WH, the fraud would not have taken place and he would have discovered the Wuhan virus fraud and put a stop to it. Instead we have a complete mess that is exacerbated by the geezer puppet and his cohort in the WH.
Quote from: Possum on August 14, 2021, 05:51:37 AMHate to bring up an old post on this thread, But what you said nailed it. IMHO, that shows two options happening. either the few who are actually running the show for the DNC are hell bent on destroying the country or those in charge are leading the party to the big bowl of kool-aid. One item I am sure on, had Trump had the support of even half of the republicans, we would not be in this mess.
I believe most of the party is kowtowing to a higher, unseen power, the very same (out of country) people who put Obozo in office. Think NWO...
Valerie Jarrett, Fuglosi and Scummer are the few allowed to speak with them, those below this group are told to STFU and do as they're told or they will be destroyed by the machine.
Few defy out of principal, Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin, but most just sit quietly by and watch shithole blue cities burn, they don't really care because they think they can turn the US 'just a little bit socialist and they will fix this shit. I think they actually believe the BLM lie and Antifa are just angry and organized against Conservatism.
Yeah, they actually believe those running the show aren't shooting for communism.
If not for their media, this would have never occurred, but, in spite of their media, this facade is crumbling fast and even then, there isn't much left of their base. I'd actually venture to guess, maybe 15% might even be generous of what it was under Obozo.
Quote from: RV on August 14, 2021, 06:06:26 AMYou are absolutely right IMO! What Republicans failed to realize is that there were and are quasi-Republicans (aka RINOs), who were against President Trump, against America and against the American people. I truly believe that these RINOs are actually Democrats who have infiltrated the Republican party in hopes of making the Republican party as morally defunct as the Democrats are.
Had most Republicans stuck to their party and not listened to the liberal media, President Trump would still be in the WH, the fraud would not have taken place and he would have discovered the Wuhan virus fraud and put a stop to it. Instead we have a complete mess that is exacerbated by the geezer puppet and his cohort in the WH.
I don't think the y failed. The RINO have been working diligently against the Conservative base. They've been working to steal the GOP ever since they killed off the Goldwater group.
Just follow them up from when they forced Bush on Reagan, that was literally the beginning of the end of what we once saw as the party that believed in America.
These people are in league with the commies in the DNC, which is why we have a Uniparty.