I'm really glad this is happening.  Kudos to Crowder.

https://magadc.substack.com/p/more-on-steven-crowder-vs-little

QuoteWhat he did to his friends though by airing it publicly was really a d-move.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on January 19, 2023, 09:18:56 PM

I agree, but sounds like they weren't that good of friends.  Maybe just industry friends.

Here is a link to crowders initial shot across the bow.

https://rumble.com/v260f88-its-time-to-stop....html



Here is Daily Wires response to crowder.

https://youtu.be/NyCc5o1KDHU



Here is his reveal of the phone call and response to Daily Wire.

https://rumble.com/v26c2hu-i-didnt-want-to-do-this....html

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on January 19, 2023, 09:18:56 PM

To be fair tho, crowder did warn them it was coming if they challenged him and was keeping names secret until they came out.

Quote from: taxed on January 19, 2023, 08:43:30 PMI'm really glad this is happening.  Kudos to Crowder.

https://magadc.substack.com/p/more-on-steven-crowder-vs-little

Yes, I see this as part of a larger civil war with the RINOs right now. Part of taking back the right from RINO Inc.

I also notice that there are alot of trolls out attacking crowder and siding with big tech.

I think this was a genius move by crowder cuz it really exposes who the tru conservatives are and who are just making a buck while bowing to the overlords, becoming controlled opposition.


And good article Taxed. It is important to call out these never trumpers who are just taking advantage of the right to make a buck. Im glad you pointed out that stuff about walsh and peterson. Ive mostly ignored digging too much into people supposedly on the right. But now is the time to start cutting off the fat.

Quote from: T Hunt on January 20, 2023, 10:28:54 AMYes, I see this as part of a larger civil war with the RINOs right now. Part of taking back the right from RINO Inc.

I also notice that there are alot of trolls out attacking crowder and siding with big tech.

I think this was a genius move by crowder cuz it really exposes who the tru conservatives are and who are just making a buck while bowing to the overlords, becoming controlled opposition.


And good article Taxed. It is important to call out these never trumpers who are just taking advantage of the right to make a buck. Im glad you pointed out that stuff about walsh and peterson. Ive mostly ignored digging too much into people supposedly on the right. But now is the time to start cutting off the fat.

I agree with the comment I quoted. It was a dick move. You don't air dirty laundry like that. It makes our movement look bad. He could have not said anything about it at all, or simple state that there were discussions and a deal could not be made.

And, I don't look at Daily Wire as "big tech". I look at as an organization growing itself with big names (Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, etc - regardless of what you think of them individually). The CEO guy breaking down the letter discussed the reality living in a real big tech world on how YouTube and the like censor, demonetize, or  ban those who dare speak out against the narrative.

It can't be that bad of a place because look at the talent there. $50 million for four years, plus extras if he does fuck up? How much is he getting for his "mug club" and demonetized YouTubing?

Just saying.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on January 20, 2023, 11:04:09 AMI agree with the comment I quoted. It was a dick move. You don't air dirty laundry like that. It makes our movement look bad. He could have not said anything about it at all, or simple state that there were discussions and a deal could not be made.

And, I don't look at Daily Wire as "big tech". I look at as an organization growing itself with big names (Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, etc - regardless of what you think of them individually). The CEO guy breaking down the letter discussed the reality living in a real big tech world on how YouTube and the like censor, demonetize, or  ban those who dare speak out against the narrative.

It can't be that bad of a place because look at the talent there. $50 million for four years, plus extras if he does fuck up? How much is he getting for his "mug club" and demonetized YouTubing?

Just saying.

Ok well heres where we differ...

I see ben shapiro as controlled opposition, a RINO. Anyone who denies 2020 was stolen I see as working for the enemy.
From what Im hearing matt walsh and others over there are the same way, tho I have never really paid attention to those smaller names.

Also it def seems that DW was trying to put restrictions and censorship onto crowder, and thats a BIG no-no for anyone trying to bring down this corrupt system. Golden handcuffs as they are being called.

To many on the right say the right things without doing the right things and its very sad that so many of them are bowing to big tech like this.

But Im also glad that not everyone here agrees with me.
Thanks for the push back.
I think this self reflection on the right is a very good thing, and agree with him or not, crowder just got this conversation rolling.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on January 20, 2023, 11:04:09 AMI agree with the comment I quoted. It was a dick move. You don't air dirty laundry like that. It makes our movement look bad. He could have not said anything about it at all, or simple state that there were discussions and a deal could not be made.

And, I don't look at Daily Wire as "big tech". I look at as an organization growing itself with big names (Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, etc - regardless of what you think of them individually). The CEO guy breaking down the letter discussed the reality living in a real big tech world on how YouTube and the like censor, demonetize, or  ban those who dare speak out against the narrative.

It can't be that bad of a place because look at the talent there. $50 million for four years, plus extras if he does fuck up? How much is he getting for his "mug club" and demonetized YouTubing?

Just saying.

How did you feel about the twenty house members not supporting McCarthy until he wrote down his promises in writing?  Personally, I think that was the best thing that has happened for the republican party in a long time.

Quote from: Possum on January 20, 2023, 12:06:25 PMHow did you feel about the twenty house members not supporting McCarthy until he wrote down his promises in writing?  Personally, I think that was the best thing that has happened for the republican party in a long time.

We can't compare politicians versus political pundits. It's great that it is documented. We can nitpick about details like how it is approached.

We, on this forum, have already made up our minds about political issues. So, political pundits opinions ain't gonna change that. We watch them more for entertainment than anything else. I don't put all my attention into Ben Shapiro. I also skip him on certain subjects that I don't care about. There are things be does right, things he does wrong, and things he needs to do differently. I can say that about any political pundit (big time or small time).

The damage is done: Trump was cheated out of a second term, and no amount of small fry convictions really matter because the main players will not be punished. Justice will be granted for the patriots who patriotically trespassed on that day.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on January 20, 2023, 02:19:50 PMWe can't compare politicians versus political pundits. It's great that it is documented. We can nitpick about details like how it is approached.

We, on this forum, have already made up our minds about political issues. So, political pundits opinions ain't gonna change that. We watch them more for entertainment than anything else. I don't put all my attention into Ben Shapiro. I also skip him on certain subjects that I don't care about. There are things be does right, things he does wrong, and things he needs to do differently. I can say that about any political pundit (big time or small time).

The damage is done: Trump was cheated out of a second term, and no amount of small fry convictions really matter because the main players will not be punished. Justice will be granted for the patriots who patriotically trespassed on that day.

Edit: justice will not be granted to those patriots.

(this is why we need an edit function)

Some more on this, with new information (which makes me double down on supporting Crowder)...

https://magadc.substack.com/p/lauren-chen-reaffirms-my-take-on

Lauren Chen reaffirms my take on Crowder vs Daily Wire (and some math on why $50mm was an insult)

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on January 20, 2023, 11:04:09 AMI agree with the comment I quoted. It was a dick move. You don't air dirty laundry like that.

Maybe sometimes you do.

QuoteIt makes our movement look bad.

Crowder blowing this open impacts conservatism in no way.

QuoteHe could have not said anything about it at all, or simple state that there were discussions and a deal could not be made.

I think he was screwed over by the Daily Wire.

QuoteAnd, I don't look at Daily Wire as "big tech".

Of course not. They just implement their rules and promote their ToS.

QuoteI look at as an organization growing itself with big names (Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, etc - regardless of what you think of them individually).

How are you growing an organization by limiting growth to what Silicon Valley platforms allow you to do?  Crowder's company is growing.

QuoteThe CEO guy breaking down the letter discussed the reality living in a real big tech world on how YouTube and the like censor, demonetize, or  ban those who dare speak out against the narrative.

Pretty sure Crowder knows this.

QuoteIt can't be that bad of a place because look at the talent there. $50 million for four years, plus extras if he does fuck up? How much is he getting for his "mug club" and demonetized YouTubing?

About $42mm PER YEAR with Mug Club alone.

QuoteJust saying.

Sure you are.

If that is true, and he get's $42 million a year in subscriptions, why would you even consider working for someone else and demanding/only wanting $30 million a year? It doesn't sound right. It also doesn't add up on the time frame of leaving "The Blaze", asking for the job, creating that website, and putting out the fake outrage.

I call bullshit.