Quote from: taxed on July 04, 2016, 01:04:58 PM
I can't wait to send mine in.  Only stupid people vote for Trump.  Even more stupid is to vote for Trump thinking he would be better.
Yeah, you scream conservatism.  Trump took the lead because Rubio stayed in too long and Cruz dropped out.
The same GOP that supports him?  They are all pushing for Hillary.  Trump 2016: Making Hillary Great Again.
Why would you want a scam artist as President?  You make no sense.
Trump has zero conservative positions.  He's friends with Hillary.  Trump turns red states purple and blue.  You're not the sharpest knife in the chandelier.
No he doesn't.  He is left.  That's not beating them.  Voting for Trump is joining them.
Trump wouldn't even know what that means.  Please quit promoting fibs.
No thanks.  I don't vote for radical liberals.

To all this I simply restate my original diagnosis:

Hysterical NeverTrump-ism is an acute psychological disorder that include symptoms of spouting off irrational conspiracy theories of Trump being a closet leftist and authoritatively pronouncing anyone who supports him "not a conservative!". It is caused by severe Battered Conservative Syndrome resulting from years of left wing verbal abuse as well as Trump's confident bravery and talk of America winning triggering flashbacks from the NeverTrumper's high school days of the popular jock who's girlfriend was the prom queen who would give the NeverTrumper wedgies in the locker room.

Quote from: Hoofer on July 04, 2016, 01:54:14 PM
Talking to my pollster kid today....

Got an interesting answer to the question haunting the Trump-a-loons, 'Who else is there to vote for'?

An interesting note, today's Libertarians share many of the same positions as Constitutional Conservatives.
Gary Johnson is a safer 'bet' than Donald Trump - apparently people are giving him a good look and jumping ship from the Republican Party which has gone south on us. 

Imagine that, voting Libertarian for POTUS and Republican for the down ballot.  Another good reason for Trump to continue courting the Sanders supporters, the only hope he has is eroding the Clinton base.  She didn't need to elaborate much - the Democrat and Republican parties are essentially one-in-the-same with Donald Trump as the expected nominee - hence the rising popularity of Libertarians.

Gary Johnson's stealing Trump votes... 

Quote from: TFields on July 04, 2016, 01:21:55 PM
I see here that you are prepared to give some substance with regard to Trump support which I appreciate as I've been on this thread now for two days and haven't gotten anything from NeverTrumpers except pussy insults and dorky pronouncements that I'm not a conservative.

Sorry, you may call yourself Conservative, but a true Con would never ever support a lib, ever.

QuoteI've figured out how to use the quote feature and I like because it's much easier than others that I've used. You righty raise the issue of string of jokes that the GOP has put up and blown elections and a lot of that has to do with my support for Trump

So just because he decided to put an (R) next to his name this time, instead of a (D), he's not a RINO? Hell, he's worse than RINO considering his support for leftists, but even worse than that. In 2014, Donald Trump supported the Republican Establishment as it sought to crush the tea party and conservatives.

Quoteas well the ineffectiveness of the conservative movement against the left politically in terms of the strategy that it has been using against them for the past 50 years.

More proof you have no idea what it means to be a Conservative, or you wouldn't have made such a stupid blanket statement.
TEA made history in 2010 when it stole roughly 1000 Legislative seats from Dims across the nation, and more history in 2014, and we've only just begun.

QuoteCheck out this article from June of last year. It's a good primer on why Trump is a good choice.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/07/13/why-i-support-donald-trumps-campaign-and-its-probably-not-what-you-think/

The 9conservative Treehouse is a disgrace and undeserving of the name, they should just go with treehouse. They've been in the tank for the lib since long before Breitbart literally sold out to Trump.



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Quote from: TFields on July 04, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
To all this I simply restate my original diagnosis:

Hysterical NeverTrump-ism is an acute psychological disorder that include systems of spouting off irrational conspiracy theories of Trump being a closet leftist and authoritatively pronouncing anyone who supports him "not a conservative!". It is caused by severe Battered Conservative Syndrome resulting from years of left wing verbal abuse as well as Trump's confident bravery and talk of America winning triggering flashbacks from the NeverTrumper's high days of the popular jock who's girlfriend was the prom queen who would give the NeverTrumper wedgies in the locker room.

You sound like a Trump University grad.  Did you shell out the extra $12k and get the laminated degree?

Why do you support liberal policies, like universal health care?  As a conservative, I'm curious what a liberal like yourself thinks.

Quote from: taxed on July 04, 2016, 02:02:05 PM
You sound like a Trump University grad.  Did you shell out the extra $12k and get the laminated degree?

Why do you support liberal policies, like universal health care?  As a conservative, I'm curious what a liberal like yourself thinks.

As we as Increased taxes, growing govt to fix problems created by an overgrown govt, loss of Liberties etc. Inquiring minds want to know why Trumpanzees want all this.

Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2016, 02:05:29 PM
As we as Increased taxes, growing govt to fix problems created by an overgrown govt, loss of Liberties etc. Inquiring minds want to know why Trumpanzees want all this.

Honestly, I think it goes back to when Trump referenced the size of his genitalia in the debate.  They LOVE stuff like that, on top of Trump's bravery talk that TFields referenced.

Speaking of, did Trump ever get those bone spurs healed that kept him out of going to Vietnam?

Quote from: taxed on July 04, 2016, 02:07:54 PM
Honestly, I think it goes back to when Trump referenced the size of his genitalia in the debate.  They LOVE stuff like that, on top of Trump's bravery talk that TFields referenced.

Speaking of, did Trump ever get those bone spurs healed that kept him out of going to Vietnam?

No. The spurs migrated to his skull, and now he's a complete bone head!

Quote from: taxed on July 04, 2016, 02:07:54 PM
Honestly, I think it goes back to when Trump referenced the size of his genitalia in the debate.  They LOVE stuff like that, on top of Trump's bravery talk that TFields referenced.

Speaking of, did Trump ever get those bone spurs healed that kept him out of going to Vietnam?

Bragging about one's dick size is the macho equivalent to boasting how much beer one can consume before passing out.
Yeah, that's some real manly shit, because it takes a complete idiot with serious self esteem issues willing to look like a complete ass.
Seriously, look back over your life and remember just what kind of fool bragged about such shit, they we're generally the type to lie about their wealth, their sex life, and when asked where they live, they'd claim they were helping out mommy and daddy by living in the basement.

Take Trump, lived off daddy all his life, lies about his wealth as well as claiming he's hung.
Yeah, that's one real man the Trumpanzees have right there, I kid you not.....

Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2016, 01:59:06 PM
Sorry, you may call yourself Conservative, but a true Con would never ever support a lib, ever.
So just because he decided to put an (R) next to his name this time, instead of a (D), he's not a RINO? Hell, he's worse than RINO considering his support for leftists, but even worse than that. In 2014, Donald Trump supported the Republican Establishment as it sought to crush the tea party and conservatives.


More proof you have no idea what it means to be a Conservative, or you wouldn't have made such a stupid blanket statement.
TEA made history in 2010 when it stole roughly 1000 Legislative seats from Dims across the nation, and more history in 2014, and we've only just begun.
The 9conservative Treehouse is a disgrace and undeserving of the name, they should just go with treehouse. They've been in the tank for the lib since long before Breitbart literally sold out to Trump.

Take that back, like all other NeverTrumpers you're just another hysterical dumbass running around screaming to everyone "You're not a conservative!" "You're not a conservative!"

Time for reality check:

Donald Trump gave money to anyone and everyone that was political- both Republicans and Democrats- and praised whatever political cause he needed to because as an international businessman his job was to get along with people. Sadly, all the lies from the from the Goldman Sachs televangelist whom he slaughtered all over the country that you dumbasses are trying to write in couldn't disprove that.

The TEA party was tremendous in 2010. They held very effective town halls and rallies and knock the media and the left back on their heels and were the one of the reasons the Republicans won astonishing victories all the way down to the local municipal level (the other was the sheer terror of Obama and a left wing Democrats swiftly ushering in a Bolshievik revolution).

But then Obama and company (as well as the GOP establishment) had the perfect solution to the TEA movement- Lois Lerner

All Lois Lerner had to so was audit them and send the FBI at their doors and the TEA parties became the TEA pussies and bolted under the nearest rock just in time for Obama's reelection. Some of the members of the TEA coalition who didn't completely clip their balls off are are still working behind the scenes and carrying on the good fight and our prayers are with them but the rest are all but gone. The only reason the Republicans managed to get the Senate in 2014 was purely because the public voted against Obama and absolutely no other reason than that.

So TEA owned 2010 and Lois Lerner owned TEA ever since.

And as far as Conservative Treehouse and Brietbart at least they sold out to the right candidate for the conservative cause instead of the Goldman Sachs televangelist that the GOP establishment decided to back and that you Hillary helpers are trying to write in.

Like I say, the whole mindless Donald-Trump-is-not-a-conservative mantra is just a psychological cover for the fact that Trump has far more balls than what NeverTrump pussies are comfortable with. Their battered wife reaction to Trump is a result of Battered Conservative Syndrome and their pussified fear of the left. Many of them as well sneer at Trump's confident persona, winning theme, and masterfully run campaign because it gives them flashbacks from their high school days of the popular jock with the prom queen girlfriend who used to give them wedgies in the locker room. NeverTrump-ism is a psychological self-deprecation that the NeverTrumper must get over. It's main symptom includes pointing their finger at anyone who even looks at them wrong and angrily shouting "Not a conservative!!! Not a conservative!!!" which is really the subliminal communication meaning "By the  power vested in me by the Great Fraternal Order of Nerds, Dorks, and Losers (the NeverTrump excuse for the "conservative movement") you are hereby banished from the Great Fraternal Order of Nerds, Dorks, and Losers. Banishment includes (but is not limited to) non participation in all think tanks, talk radio shows, position papers, news outlets, temple rituals, sacred holy rites, secret passwords, secret handshakes, and coded messages in the Great Fraternal Order of Nerds, Dorks, and Losers (i.e. so-called "conservatism" as they define it).

Thus NeverTrumpers are total frauds, shills, and the worst form of traitors since they are perfectly willing to sabatoge the convention and hand the White House and the already left wing Supreme Court to Hillary because they want to prove a point about how mad they are that the GOP Establishment-backed Goldman Sachs televangelist ran a terrible campaign and lost.





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Quote from: TFields on July 04, 2016, 07:06:41 PM
Take that back, like all other NeverTrumpers you're just another hysterical dumbass running around scream to everyone "You're not a conservative!" "You're not a conservative!"

Time for reality check:

Donald Trump gave money to anyone and everyone that was political- both Republicans and Democrats- and praised whatever political cause he needed to because as an international businessman his job was to get along with people. Sadly, all the lies from the from the Goldman Sachs televangelist whom he slaughtered all over the country that you dumbasses are trying to write in couldn't disprove that.

You really should research before you step in it further.

So now what you Trumpanzees? You demonized Cruz over his wife' former employment as if he were the Devil incarnate, and now your very own NY Lib hires, not just a lib, but a Soros lib.

But Mnuchin's extensive history of considerable campaign contributions suggests the Wall Street veteran is more interested in getting Democrats elected than Republicans.

FEC records show that over the course of 18 years, beginning with a $500 donation to Democrat Chuck Schumer's Senate campaign in 1998, Mnuchin has made $68,300 in campaign contributions.
ighty-five percent, or $57,800 of which has gone to Democratic candidates in gubernatorial, senatorial and presidential races.

Among the Democratic candidates Trump's finance chairman has contributed to: President Obama ($4,300); former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ($8,200); former Democratic presidential nominees John Kerry ($500) and Al Gore ($1,000); former Democratic Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards ($4,100); former Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu ($2,300); New York Sen. Chuck Schumer ($2,500) and former New Jersey congressional candidate Michael Wildes ($11,500).

Mnuchin also contributed $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 2004.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-05/trump-picks-former-goldman-partner-and-soros-employee-finance-chairman
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-new-finance-chairman-has-long-history-of-donating-to-dems/article/2590486

QuoteThe TEA party was tremendous in 2010. They held very effective town halls and rallies and knock the media and the left back on their heels and were the one of the reasons the Republicans won astonishing victories all the way down to the local municipal level (the other was the sheer of Obama and a left wing Democrats swiftly ushering in a Bolshievik revolution).

But then Obama and company (as well as the GOP establishment) had the perfect solution to the TEA movement- Lois Lerner

All Lois Lerner had to so was audit them and send the FBI at their doors and the TEA parties became the TEA pussies and bolted under the nearest rock just in time for Obama's reelection. Some of the members of the TEA coalition who didn't completely clip their balls off are are still working behind the scenes and carrying on the good fight and our prayers are with them but their all but gone. The only reason the Republicans managed to get the Senate in 2014 was purely because the public voted against Obama and absolutely no other reason than that.

So TEA owned 2010 and Lois Lerner owned TEA ever since.

Yet you ignore the fact that Trump was helping the GOP attack TEA?
Also, TEA is alive and well, TEA is an ideology, one that cannot be killed.

QuoteAnd as far as Conservative Treehouse and Brietbart at least they out to the right candidate for the conservative cause instead of the Goldman Sachs televangelist that the GOP establishment decided to back and that you Hillary helpers are trying to write in.

ROFL!!! Still stuck on stupid I see.

QuoteLike I say, the whole mindless Donald-Trump-is-not-a-conservative mantra is just a psychological cover for the fact that Trump has far more balls than what NeverTrump pussies are comfortable with. Their battered wife reaction to Trump is a result of Battered Conservative Syndrome and their pussified fear of the left. Many of them as well sneer at Trump's confident persona, winning theme, and masterfully run campaign because it gives them flashbacks from their high school days of the popular jock with the prom queen girlfriend who used to give them wedgies back then. NeverTrump-ism is a psychological self-deprecation that the NeverTrumper must get over. It's main symptom includes pointing their finger at anyone who even looks at them wrong and angrily shouting "Not a conservative!!!" which is really the subliminal communication mean "By the  power vested in me by the Great Fraternal Order of Nerds, Dorks, and Losers (the NeverTrump excuse for the "conservative movement") you are hereby banished from the Great Fraternal Order of Nerds, Dorks, and Losers. Banishment includes (but is not limited to) non participation in all think tanks, talk radio shows, position papers, news outlets, temple rituals, sacred holy rites, secret passwords, secret handshakes, and coded messages in the Great Fraternal Order of Nerds, Dorks, and Losers (i.e. so-called "conservatism" as they define it).

This so called 'masterful" campaign you claim, was in essence geared toward LIV, Libs and those of your ilk, Millennial that just discovered politics in the last decade.

QuoteThus NeverTrumpers are total frauds, shills, and the worst form of traitors since they are perfectly willing to sabatoge the convention and hand the White House and the already left wing Supreme Court to Hillary because they want to prove a point about how mad they are that the GOP Establishment-backed Goldman Sachs televangelist ran a terrible campaign and lost.

Sadly you drank the leftist Kool Aid that was telling you Trump is a Conservative, so if that's the case, why does Trump campaign for Sanders voters and stated quite clearly, that he didn't need the Conservative vote to win?
Think about that, the base of the GOP is, not only being pushed aside by the GOP, Trump is trying to stifle our voice as well.
And you call yourself a conservative?

Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2016, 05:15:11 PM
Bragging about one's dick size is the macho equivalent to boasting how much beer one can consume before passing out.
Yeah, that's some real manly shit, because it takes a complete idiot with serious self esteem issues willing to look like a complete ass.
Seriously, look back over your life and remember just what kind of fool bragged about such shit, they we're generally the type to lie about their wealth, their sex life, and when asked where they live, they'd claim they were helping out mommy and daddy by living in the basement.

Take Trump, lived off daddy all his life, lies about his wealth as well as claiming he's hung.
Yeah, that's one real man the Trumpanzees have right there, I kid you not.....

Exactly!!!   

Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2016, 07:25:03 PM
You really should research before you step in it further.

So now what you Trumpanzees? You demonized Cruz over his wife' former employment as if he were the Devil incarnate, and now your very own NY Lib hires, not just a lib, but a Soros lib.

But Mnuchin's extensive history of considerable campaign contributions suggests the Wall Street veteran is more interested in getting Democrats elected than Republicans.

FEC records show that over the course of 18 years, beginning with a $500 donation to Democrat Chuck Schumer's Senate campaign in 1998, Mnuchin has made $68,300 in campaign contributions.
ighty-five percent, or $57,800 of which has gone to Democratic candidates in gubernatorial, senatorial and presidential races.

Among the Democratic candidates Trump's finance chairman has contributed to: President Obama ($4,300); former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ($8,200); former Democratic presidential nominees John Kerry ($500) and Al Gore ($1,000); former Democratic Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards ($4,100); former Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu ($2,300); New York Sen. Chuck Schumer ($2,500) and former New Jersey congressional candidate Michael Wildes ($11,500).

Mnuchin also contributed $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 2004.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-05/trump-picks-former-goldman-partner-and-soros-employee-finance-chairman
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-new-finance-chairman-has-long-history-of-donating-to-dems/article/2590486


Yet you ignore the fact that Trump was helping the GOP attack TEA?
Also, TEA is alive and well, TEA is an ideology, one that cannot be killed.

ROFL!!! Still stuck on stupid I see.
This so called 'masterful" campaign you claim, was in essence geared toward LIV, Libs and those of your ilk, Millennial that just discovered politics in the last decade.

Sadly you drank the leftist Kool Aid that was telling you Trump is a Conservative, so if that's the case, why does Trump campaign for Sanders voters and stated quite clearly, that he didn't need the Conservative vote to win?
Think about that, the base of the GOP is, not only being pushed aside by the GOP, Trump is trying to stifle our voice as well.
And you call yourself a conservative?

With regard to Mnuchin, do you think his hiring of Kelly Ann Conway as a senior campaign staffer and Trump spokeswoman balance things out for you?

Or is she now "Not a conservative!!!" since she started working for Trump? Research that one for me.

I'm glad to hear that TEA is alive and well. So when is it going to get up off its ass and do something? Lois Lerner is not at the IRS anymore and were halfway toward being the Soviet Union in our seventh year of Obama and his left wing Supreme Court.

Donald Trump never attacked TEA. He just gave lots of money to the GOP who turned around and attacked TEA. Ted Cruz on the other hand was chair of the RSCC at the time that they ran all those left wing attack ads against Chris McDaniels in the Mississippi primary calling the TEA candidate a racist in order to help Thad Cochren get Democrat crossovers. So Ted Cruz, not Donald Trump, attacked TEA.

Must have been part of the deal that he and Rand Paul both made not to oppose Mitch McConnell's agenda.

But the most important part of all is that Trump won and won big. He did that however he needed to do it just like he's going to now in the general because the salvation of this country from left is worth achieving by whatever means are necessary.

NeverTrumpers want to sit around and pride themselves on how "conservative" they are while the left destroys the country all around them. Conservatives who are backing Trump are determined to stop the left no matter what has to be done.

Quote from: Ms.Independence on July 04, 2016, 08:32:36 PM
Exactly!!!   

Hey Ms. Independence

I encourage you not to fall prey to the stupidity of NeverTrumpers. I have already given my psychological diagnosis of that garbage above.

I too wish Trump was more conservative, but conservatives are in desperate need of the other attributes that he brings to the table that the conservative movement is completely lacking (e. g.the raw, in-your-face aggressiveness, masterful political meneuvering and ability to manipulate the media).

Quote from: TFields on July 04, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
With regard to Mnuchin, do you think his hiring of Kelly Ann Conway as a senior campaign staffer and Trump spokeswoman balance things out for you?

Or is she now "Not a conservative!!!" since she started working for Trump? Research that one for me.

Hit a nerve I see. I bet you think pedophiles should be forgiven because they donate to Shriners children hospital.

QuoteI'm glad to hear that TEA is alive and well. So when is it going to get up off its ass and do something? Lois Lerner is not at the IRS anymore and were halfway toward being the Soviet Union in our seventh year of Obama and his left wing Supreme Court.

There you are with another disconnect from Conservatism. TEA is not a party, get that through your head, it's an Shared Ideal, a way of life, something you either understand or you don't, and it's blatantly obvious the more you yap, the more you prove your lib status.
Hey, I think it's great that you're a recent convert, but seriously, if you really want to steer the nation back on track, you'll first have to define your values and set them in stone.
TEA/Conservatives believe in equal Rights, not special Rights and we are not in the least racist nor do we hold ones religion against them, as you seem to have an issue with Cruz being a Christian.
Once you can evolve beyond your prejudices you're well on your way to being a Conservative, but that's only scratching the surface of what being and living Conservatism means, it's not a political movement, it's pure values, and that's why the left, the Establishment and Trump have no use for us, we believe in the rule of law, not a consensus of those at the moment, as in Demcracy.

QuoteDonald Trump never attacked TEA. He just gave lots of money to the GOP who turned around and attacked TEA. Ted Cruz on the other hand was chair of the RSCC at the time that they ran all those left wing attack ads against Chris McDaniels in the Mississippi primary calling the TEA candidate a racist in order to help Thad Cochren get Democrat crossovers. So Ted Cruz, not Donald Trump, attacked TEA.

Aw Jeez, do you even know WTF the RSCC is?

QuoteMust have been part of the deal that he and Rand Paul both made not to oppose Mitch McConnell's agenda.

But the most important part of all is that Trump won and won big. He did that however he needed to do it just like he's going to now in the general because the salvation of this country from left is worth achieving by whatever means are necessary.

He did it with the help of the Establishment GOP, Leftist Media and support of crossover libs, and you still don't see a problem?

QuoteNeverTrumpers want to sit around and pride themselves on how "conservative" they are while the left destroys the country all around them. Conservatives who are backing Trump are determined to stop the left no matter what has to be done.

One last time, there are no Fucking Conservatives backing Trump!!!
Real Conservatives would never vote for a lib, especially one that lied all the way through his campaign, then flipped on those lies, like, well well you know, libs and RINO always do.

Doesn't it bother you that he plans on making every illegal here, a citizen, that he never intended to send them home first?
Dana on Conservatism and TEA and Trump. Two minutes....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJs8-K17A1s

Quote from: taxed on July 04, 2016, 01:55:59 PM
Gary Johnson's stealing Trump votes... 

I liken it to, "I'd rather get WASTED than vote for TRUMP" mentality.

So the way to rope in the Conservatives is insult them? Sounds like a Democrat to me, since there isn't a smidgen of positive rational thought that compels a Constitutional Conservative to vote for him.  Even more disturbing - of the 3 candidates still openly running, a Libertarian is closest to a Constitutional Conservative.

Given the 3, I sympathize with Republicans voting Libertarian on the POTUS ticket, and Republican down-the-ticket, better half-a-oaf than a complete oaf...