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Frank Luntz' main squeeze, Kevin McCarthy, may not have the votes to be Speaker of the House. I've been operating under the premise that they kicked up enough support, but it looks like that's not yet the case.
From the NY Post:
"The coalition against Kevin has already reached critical mass," said Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida), one of the Speaker-in-waiting's most implacable foes.
The hard no's on McCarthy currently include Gaetz, Rep. Ralph Norman (R-South Carolina), and Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Arizona). Two other members, Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-Montana) and Rep. Bob Good (R-Virginia) have both issued tough statements denouncing McCarthy.
"We need a leader who can stand up to a Democrat-controlled Senate and President Biden, and unfortunately, that isn't Kevin McCarthy," Rosendale said earlier this month.
Here's what I'd like:
Many of the GOP hardliners have sought changes to House rules that would give them more leverage over McCarthy in the next Congress — including reconstituting the "motion to vacate the chair" that would allow any member of the House to be able to call for the removal of a sitting Speaker.
https://magadc.substack.com/p/mccarthy-doesnt-yet-have-the-votes?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1094906&post_id=87084130&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
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Frank Luntz' main squeeze, Kevin McCarthy, may not have the votes to be Speaker of the House. I've been operating under the premise that they kicked up enough support, but it looks like that's not yet the case.
From the NY Post:
"The coalition against Kevin has already reached critical mass," said Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida), one of the Speaker-in-waiting's most implacable foes.
The hard no's on McCarthy currently include Gaetz, Rep. Ralph Norman (R-South Carolina), and Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Arizona). Two other members, Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-Montana) and Rep. Bob Good (R-Virginia) have both issued tough statements denouncing McCarthy.
"We need a leader who can stand up to a Democrat-controlled Senate and President Biden, and unfortunately, that isn't Kevin McCarthy," Rosendale said earlier this month.
Here's what I'd like:
Many of the GOP hardliners have sought changes to House rules that would give them more leverage over McCarthy in the next Congress — including reconstituting the "motion to vacate the chair" that would allow any member of the House to be able to call for the removal of a sitting Speaker.
https://magadc.substack.com/p/mccarthy-doesnt-yet-have-the-votes?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1094906&post_id=87084130&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
It's a good sign. Hopefully it will lead to a change and we can see a conservative as speaker. I'm not betting yet.
Quote from: Possum on November 27, 2022, 05:09:04 AMIt's a good sign. Hopefully it will lead to a change and we can see a conservative as speaker. I'm not betting yet.
Remember, just a week ago, this slime ball RINO was selected. it was a done deal? Right?
Wellllll, not so fast, the patriot Base spoke up! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
All of the Republican McLeadership (McCarthy, McConnel, McDaniel) needs to go to prison for Treason with the probable of the Rep party and 99% of the Dems in Washington.
Quote from: Sauce on November 27, 2022, 05:38:37 AMAll of the Republican McLeadership (McCarthy, McConnel, McDaniel) needs to go to prison for Treason with the probable of the Rep party and 99% of the Dems in Washington.
Hopefully, "Very soon, Very very soon". :thumbsup:
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Quote from: Solar on November 27, 2022, 05:46:32 AMHopefully, "Very soon, Very very soon". :thumbsup:
Sorry for the double post was trying to correct the original (where did the edit function go, maybe you replied too quick? :biggrin:)
...anyways, my post was supposed to say
"go to prison with a probable third of Rep party...."
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:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: yep, was going to post that once I remembered how to post again :biggrin:
Quote from: Sauce on November 27, 2022, 05:54:14 AMSorry for the double post was trying to correct the original (where did the edit function go, maybe you replied too quick? :biggrin:)
...anyways, my post was supposed to say "go to prison with a probable third of Rep party...."
Third, half, 75%, but I get your point. Lets agree on half. :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
Quote from: Solar on November 27, 2022, 05:12:26 AMRemember, just a week ago, this slime ball RINO was selected. it was a done deal? Right?
Wellllll, not so fast, the patriot Base spoke up! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
2020 really riled us up and 2022 has hardened us for the fight ahead.
Quote from: Sauce on November 27, 2022, 05:38:37 AMAll of the Republican McLeadership (McCarthy, McConnel, McDaniel) needs to go to prison for Treason with the probable of the Rep party and 99% of the Dems in Washington.
Ive heard them called the McRINOs :lol:
Gosh guys, let's not shoot ourselves in the foot. I desire a conservative Speaker as much as anyone. First, however, let's seat a republican as Speaker. After that person is in place we can have our internal battles. The democrats want for us to be totally in disarray so we are distracted from them implementing their radical ideas and programs.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 07:19:32 AMGosh guys, let's not shoot ourselves in the foot. I desire a conservative Speaker as much as anyone. First, however, let's seat a republican as Speaker. After that person is in place we can have our internal battles. The democrats want for us to be totally in disarray so we are distracted from them implementing their radical ideas and programs.
Sup, you know they're a cancer, and once rooted you never get rid of it.
No, the Establishment will not be allowed to set the narrative ever again! We've worked way to hard, only to concede at this point!
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 07:19:32 AMGosh guys, let's not shoot ourselves in the foot. I desire a conservative Speaker as much as anyone. First, however, let's seat a republican as Speaker. After that person is in place we can have our internal battles. The democrats want for us to be totally in disarray so we are distracted from them implementing their radical ideas and programs.
Whoever does get the job, and if McCarthy does, communication lines must remain open so the conservative voice is an influence on all decision. But, lets not go down without a fight because we can win this. If we do not fight now, I have no reasonable expectation the conservative voice will be listened to in the future. The senate might just be a good example of this, time will tell, but since rino McConnell did not have a challenge, I do not think he will push any conservative agenda.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 07:19:32 AMGosh guys, let's not shoot ourselves in the foot. I desire a conservative Speaker as much as anyone. First, however, let's seat a republican as Speaker. After that person is in place we can have our internal battles. The democrats want for us to be totally in disarray so we are distracted from them implementing their radical ideas and programs.
It's amazing how much I disagree with you. I don't keep track of folks here. Politically speaking what what do you consider yourself?
Quote from: yrunvs on November 27, 2022, 07:54:00 AMIt's amazing how much I disagree with you. I don't keep track of folks here. Politically speaking what what do you consider yourself?
I have been on this forum for at least 10 years and my conservative credentials have been established. I am also a realist and until we outnumber the establishment we have to work with them. I am encouraged by the slim margin in the House. McCarthy, or whoever is speaker, needs the conservatives and we get a voice. I am disappointed it seems the "Freedom Caucus" has lost some of its energy. This began when Mark Meadows became Trumps chief of staff. Let's get the gavel and then go to work.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 08:04:11 AMI have been on this forum for at least 10 years and my conservative credentials have been established. I am also a realist and until we outnumber the establishment we have to work with them. I am encouraged by the slim margin in the House. McCarthy, or whoever is speaker, needs the conservatives and we get a voice. I am disappointed it seems the "Freedom Caucus" has lost some of its energy. This began when Mark Meadows became Trumps chief of staff. Let's get the gavel and then go to work.
The only reason we lose anything, is not because the conservative message failed, it's due to the power of the left in the party.
We cannot compromise. Our own short history has proven, time and time again, compromise only weakens our side!
We need to fight like our lives depend on it, because they do! We've come way to far to settle.
Quote from: Solar on November 27, 2022, 08:11:21 AMThe only reason we lose anything, is not because the conservative message failed, it's due to the power of the left in the party.
We cannot compromise. Our own short history has proven, time and time again, compromise only weakens our side!
We need to fight like our lives depend on it, because they do! We've come way to far to settle.
Yep, the time to fight is NOW, Time for Charlie Brown to blind side Lucy!
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 08:04:11 AMI have been on this forum for at least 10 years and my conservative credentials have been established. I am also a realist and until we outnumber the establishment we have to work with them. I am encouraged by the slim margin in the House. McCarthy, or whoever is speaker, needs the conservatives and we get a voice. I am disappointed it seems the "Freedom Caucus" has lost some of its energy. This began when Mark Meadows became Trumps chief of staff. Let's get the gavel and then go to work.
You as a self proclaimed conservative and "realist" want to work with the establishment. wow. Putting a rino at the tip of the spear? We'll see how well that goes.
Quote from: yrunvs on November 27, 2022, 08:50:56 AMYou as a self proclaimed conservative and "realist" want to work with the establishment. wow. Putting a rino at the tip of the spear? We'll see how well that goes.
Until we have a clear majority we need allies. Political success necessities dealing with some you prefer not to. Just like foreign affairs. We continue to deal with the Saudi's and they are despicable. Same with Russia during WW ll. BTW, I could care less whether you think I am a conservative or not.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 09:17:40 AMUntil we have a clear majority we need allies. Political success necessities dealing with some you prefer not to. Just like foreign affairs. We continue to deal with the Saudi's and they are despicable. Same with Russia during WW ll. BTW, I could care less whether you think I am a conservative or not.
cino
Quote from: Sauce on November 27, 2022, 08:45:02 AMYep, the time to fight is NOW, Time for Charlie Brown to blind side Lucy!
:bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
I'd love to see Chuck take a baseball bat to her ass. Great meme.
Quote from: Solar on November 27, 2022, 09:35:18 AM:bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
I'd love to see Chuck take a baseball bat to her ass. Great meme.
...or kick here mellon sized head instead
:thumbsup:
Charles
Quote from: Sauce on November 27, 2022, 09:37:21 AM...or kick here mellon sized head instead
Shultz was teaching kids well. :thumbsup:
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 09:17:40 AMUntil we have a clear majority we need allies. Political success necessities dealing with some you prefer not to. Just like foreign affairs. We continue to deal with the Saudi's and they are despicable. Same with Russia during WW ll. BTW, I could care less whether you think I am a conservative or not.
I agree with you for the most part, but McCarthy was weak and spineless in the thin minority. He sure as hell isn't going to turn into a lion in the thin majority. I do, however, think he'd be somewhat effective with that "motion to vacate" vote. Also, there is no need to reach across the isle nowadays. It isn't the old days, as they completely run over us when they have an inch of power. We need to ram conservative legislation and policies up their asses, and be the funding check to the rouge agencies.
You know what's worse than a rino? a cino.
Quote from: taxed on November 27, 2022, 12:07:16 PMI agree with you for the most part, but McCarthy was weak and spineless in the thin minority. He sure as hell isn't going to turn into a lion in the thin majority. I do, however, think he'd be somewhat effective with that "motion to vacate" vote. Also, there is no need to reach across the isle nowadays. It isn't the old days, as they completely run over us when they have an inch of power. We need to ram conservative legislation and policies up their asses, and be the funding check to the rouge agencies.
We agree. I am not for reaching across the aisle to democrats. McCarthy is not my choice, but he may be a temporary fix.
Quote from: yrunvs on November 27, 2022, 05:59:11 PMYou know what's worse than a rino? a cino.
I am enjoying living in your head rent free.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 28, 2022, 05:00:18 AMI am enjoying living in your head rent free.
How original. There's no such thing as rent free somebody is paying the price. :wink: :wink:
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 09:17:40 AMUntil we have a clear majority we need allies. Political success necessities dealing with some you prefer not to. Just like foreign affairs. We continue to deal with the Saudi's and they are despicable. Same with Russia during WW ll. BTW, I could care less whether you think I am a conservative or not.
I think we all know what you mean, and wish it could be that way. But these RINO scum always promised us things, only to turn around and stab us in the back.
Remember IRS and TEA? Remember how the GOP was in league with Obama when they held a false inquiry sacrificing Lois Lerner while sicking their toothless guard dog Gowdy on her?
That was great theater wasn't it? :rolleyes:
This is straight out of the Establishments playbook, promise the world, and steal them blind. There is no GOP, there is but one party, the Uniparty, and until we say enough is enough, they'll keep playing us for complete fools.
There is no negotiating with Evil..
Quote from: Solar on November 28, 2022, 06:35:11 AMI think we all know what you mean, and wish it could be that way. But these RINO scum always promised us things, only to turn around and stab us in the back.
Remember IRS and TEA? Remember how the GOP was in league with Obama when they held a false inquiry sacrificing Lois Lerner while sicking their toothless guard dog Gowdy on her?
That was great theater wasn't it? :rolleyes:
This is straight out of the Establishments playbook, promise the world, and steal them blind. There is no GOP, there is but one party, the Uniparty, and until we say enough is enough, they'll keep playing us for complete fools.
There is no negotiating with Evil..
"That was great theater wasn't it? :rolleyes:"
It is not over is it?
Quote from: yrunvs on November 28, 2022, 05:59:58 AMHow original. There's no such thing as rent free somebody is paying the price. :wink: :wink:
How much are you paying? I'm certainly not paying anything.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 28, 2022, 07:00:20 AM"That was great theater wasn't it? :rolleyes:"
It is not over is it?
Yep, the Uniparty is still playing us.
Like holding a knife plunged into the victims back, "I didn't do it, I swear".
We are being held victim by these scum as long as they retain seats.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 28, 2022, 07:00:20 AM"That was great theater wasn't it? :rolleyes:"
It is not over is it?
It's not even Theater anymore, the "Mcs" went out of their way to fund anti MAGA lackies who would vote for them....even if it meant losing their majorities....
That's why this leadership fight needs to be taken to the precipice, if we have to settle for Luntz's lo..ERRR roommate, so be it