McCarthy doesn't yet have the votes and is under the gun

Started by Solar, November 27, 2022, 04:50:13 AM

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supsalemgr

Quote from: yrunvs on November 27, 2022, 07:54:00 AMIt's amazing how much I disagree with you. I don't keep track of folks here. Politically speaking what what do you consider yourself?

I have been on this forum for at least 10 years and my conservative credentials have been established. I am also a realist and until we outnumber the establishment we have to work with them. I am encouraged by the slim margin in the House. McCarthy, or whoever is speaker, needs the conservatives and we get a voice. I am disappointed it seems the "Freedom Caucus" has lost some of its energy. This began when Mark Meadows became Trumps chief of staff. Let's get the gavel and then go to work.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 08:04:11 AMI have been on this forum for at least 10 years and my conservative credentials have been established. I am also a realist and until we outnumber the establishment we have to work with them. I am encouraged by the slim margin in the House. McCarthy, or whoever is speaker, needs the conservatives and we get a voice. I am disappointed it seems the "Freedom Caucus" has lost some of its energy. This began when Mark Meadows became Trumps chief of staff. Let's get the gavel and then go to work.
The only reason we lose anything, is not because the conservative message failed, it's due to the power of the left in the party.
We cannot compromise. Our own short history has proven, time and time again, compromise only weakens our side!

We need to fight like our lives depend on it, because they do! We've come way to far to settle.
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Quote from: Solar on November 27, 2022, 08:11:21 AMThe only reason we lose anything, is not because the conservative message failed, it's due to the power of the left in the party.
We cannot compromise. Our own short history has proven, time and time again, compromise only weakens our side!

We need to fight like our lives depend on it, because they do! We've come way to far to settle.

Yep, the time to fight is NOW, Time for Charlie Brown to blind side Lucy!

yrunvs

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 08:04:11 AMI have been on this forum for at least 10 years and my conservative credentials have been established. I am also a realist and until we outnumber the establishment we have to work with them. I am encouraged by the slim margin in the House. McCarthy, or whoever is speaker, needs the conservatives and we get a voice. I am disappointed it seems the "Freedom Caucus" has lost some of its energy. This began when Mark Meadows became Trumps chief of staff. Let's get the gavel and then go to work.

You as a self proclaimed conservative and "realist" want to work with the establishment. wow. Putting a rino at the tip of the spear? We'll see how well that goes.
I'm no Gynecologist but hey I'll take a look.

supsalemgr

Quote from: yrunvs on November 27, 2022, 08:50:56 AMYou as a self proclaimed conservative and "realist" want to work with the establishment. wow. Putting a rino at the tip of the spear? We'll see how well that goes.

Until we have a clear majority we need allies. Political success necessities dealing with some you prefer not to. Just like foreign affairs. We continue to deal with the Saudi's and they are despicable. Same with Russia during WW ll. BTW, I could care less whether you think I am a conservative or not.
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yrunvs

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 09:17:40 AMUntil we have a clear majority we need allies. Political success necessities dealing with some you prefer not to. Just like foreign affairs. We continue to deal with the Saudi's and they are despicable. Same with Russia during WW ll. BTW, I could care less whether you think I am a conservative or not.

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I'm no Gynecologist but hey I'll take a look.

Solar

Quote from: Sauce on November 27, 2022, 08:45:02 AMYep, the time to fight is NOW, Time for Charlie Brown to blind side Lucy!
:bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl
I'd love to see Chuck take a baseball bat to her ass. Great meme.
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Quote from: Solar on November 27, 2022, 09:35:18 AM:bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl
I'd love to see Chuck take a baseball bat to her ass. Great meme.

...or kick here mellon sized head instead

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Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 09:17:40 AMUntil we have a clear majority we need allies. Political success necessities dealing with some you prefer not to. Just like foreign affairs. We continue to deal with the Saudi's and they are despicable. Same with Russia during WW ll. BTW, I could care less whether you think I am a conservative or not.

I agree with you for the most part, but McCarthy was weak and spineless in the thin minority.  He sure as hell isn't going to turn into a lion in the thin majority.  I do, however, think he'd be somewhat effective with that "motion to vacate" vote.  Also, there is no need to reach across the isle nowadays.  It isn't the old days, as they completely run over us when they have an inch of power.  We need to ram conservative legislation and policies up their asses, and be the funding check to the rouge agencies.
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yrunvs

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supsalemgr

Quote from: taxed on November 27, 2022, 12:07:16 PMI agree with you for the most part, but McCarthy was weak and spineless in the thin minority.  He sure as hell isn't going to turn into a lion in the thin majority.  I do, however, think he'd be somewhat effective with that "motion to vacate" vote.  Also, there is no need to reach across the isle nowadays.  It isn't the old days, as they completely run over us when they have an inch of power.  We need to ram conservative legislation and policies up their asses, and be the funding check to the rouge agencies.

We agree. I am not for reaching across the aisle to democrats. McCarthy is not my choice, but he may be a temporary fix.
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yrunvs

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 28, 2022, 05:00:18 AMI am enjoying living in your head rent free.

How original. There's no such thing as rent free somebody is paying the price.  :wink:  :wink:
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 27, 2022, 09:17:40 AMUntil we have a clear majority we need allies. Political success necessities dealing with some you prefer not to. Just like foreign affairs. We continue to deal with the Saudi's and they are despicable. Same with Russia during WW ll. BTW, I could care less whether you think I am a conservative or not.
I think we all know what you mean, and wish it could be that way. But these RINO scum always promised us things, only to turn around and stab us in the back.
Remember IRS and TEA? Remember how the GOP was in league with Obama when they held a false inquiry sacrificing Lois Lerner while sicking their toothless guard dog Gowdy on her?

That was great theater wasn't it?  :rolleyes:

This is straight out of the Establishments playbook, promise the world, and steal them blind. There is no GOP, there is but one party, the Uniparty, and until we say enough is enough, they'll keep playing us for complete fools.

There is no negotiating with Evil..
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