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Title: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: unver on November 12, 2022, 02:51:18 AM

There are lots of myths going around trying to explain the Florida Red Wave. Statewide going from 49.6%  Republican in 2018 to up to 61%.

MYTH: DeSantis did well because he is a incumbent.
FACT: The newly elected agricultural commissioner did as well as DeSantis

MYTH: DeSantis led the ticket and pulled the other candidates up.
FACT: The Republican attorney general candidate got more votes than DeSantis. (61%)

MYTH: Republicans in Florida got a Red Wave due to public policy stands.
FACT: Republican Red Wave was mostly due to the crackdown on voter fraud.

MYTH: No evidence of voter fraud in Florida in 2018
FACT: Senator Rick Scott found evidence of fraud in Broward County and Trump sent in Federal agents, see quote below.

Former Reagan official Paul Craig Roberts, who lives in Florida, lays it out in the below quoted article. The reason Florida got a Red Wave, as opposed to the rest of the country was because voter fraud was taken seriously. Republicans in the other states had the same policy stands as the Florida Republicans, but they had no Red Wave. The pundits give every ridiculous reason except fraud is because the vote count and fake winner announcements are seen as sacred, untouchable. The American system is based on the claim of free elections, to admit voter fraud is to say the the whole American system and rule is illegitimate. I mean, are we going to teach kids in schools that Americans do not select their rulers, but is really like Red China?

Any serious election will not have people going around with stacks of blank ballots and having people filling them out. This not only prevents voting observation but also subjects people to coercion.

QuoteHow do we reconcile Florida's red wave with the absence of one elsewhere? The answer is that Florida doesn't permit all the voting ways that make it easy to steal.
https://www.unz.com/proberts/more-thoughts-on-the-stolen-2022-election/ (https://www.unz.com/proberts/more-thoughts-on-the-stolen-2022-election/)

QuoteTrump said in a Truth Social post that he helped save DeSantis's campaign and sent the FBI and U.S. attorneys to the state to stop voter fraud.

He claimed votes were "being stolen" by a "corrupt" election process in Broward County, which is located in the Miami area, and DeSantis's lead over his Democratic opponent, Andrew Gillum, was dropping by 10,000 votes per day.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731210-trump-claims-without-evidence-he-sent-federal-agents-to-keep-desantis-election-from-being-stolen-in-2018/ (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731210-trump-claims-without-evidence-he-sent-federal-agents-to-keep-desantis-election-from-being-stolen-in-2018/)

Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: T Hunt on November 12, 2022, 04:17:44 AM
Quote from: unver on November 12, 2022, 02:51:18 AMThere are lots of myths going around trying to explain the Florida Red Wave. Statewide going from 49.6%  Republican in 2018 to up to 61%.

MYTH: DeSantis did well because he is a incumbent.
FACT: The newly elected agricultural commissioner did as well as DeSantis

MYTH: DeSantis led the ticket and pulled the other candidates up.
FACT: The Republican attorney general candidate got more votes than DeSantis. (61%)

MYTH: Republicans in Florida got a Red Wave due to public policy stands.
FACT: Republican Red Wave was mostly due to the crackdown on voter fraud.

MYTH: No evidence of voter fraud in Florida in 2018
FACT: Senator Rick Scott found evidence of fraud in Broward County and Trump sent in Federal agents, see quote below.

Former Reagan official Paul Craig Roberts, who lives in Florida, lays it out in the below quoted article. The reason Florida got a Red Wave, as opposed to the rest of the country was because voter fraud was taken seriously. Republicans in the other states had the same policy stands as the Florida Republicans, but they had no Red Wave. The pundits give every ridiculous reason except fraud is because the vote count and fake winner announcements are seen as sacred, untouchable. The American system is based on the claim of free elections, to admit voter fraud is to say the the whole American system and rule is illegitimate. I mean, are we going to teach kids in schools that Americans do not select their rulers, but is really like Red China?

Any serious election will not have people going around with stacks of blank ballots and having people filling them out. This not only prevents voting observation but also subjects people to coercion.



Very well said. They keep looking for ANY excuse not to admit massive cheating. The facts show florida tamped it down and look at the results. Thats what the whole nation looks like in reality, with real legal people. In reality the right has always vastly outnumbered the left. The left is almost entirely an illusion.
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Possum on November 12, 2022, 06:59:43 AM
Quote from: unver on November 12, 2022, 02:51:18 AMThere are lots of myths going around trying to explain the Florida Red Wave. Statewide going from 49.6%  Republican in 2018 to up to 61%.

MYTH: DeSantis did well because he is a incumbent.
FACT: The newly elected agricultural commissioner did as well as DeSantis

MYTH: DeSantis led the ticket and pulled the other candidates up.
FACT: The Republican attorney general candidate got more votes than DeSantis. (61%)

MYTH: Republicans in Florida got a Red Wave due to public policy stands.
FACT: Republican Red Wave was mostly due to the crackdown on voter fraud.

MYTH: No evidence of voter fraud in Florida in 2018
FACT: Senator Rick Scott found evidence of fraud in Broward County and Trump sent in Federal agents, see quote below.

Former Reagan official Paul Craig Roberts, who lives in Florida, lays it out in the below quoted article. The reason Florida got a Red Wave, as opposed to the rest of the country was because voter fraud was taken seriously. Republicans in the other states had the same policy stands as the Florida Republicans, but they had no Red Wave. The pundits give every ridiculous reason except fraud is because the vote count and fake winner announcements are seen as sacred, untouchable. The American system is based on the claim of free elections, to admit voter fraud is to say the the whole American system and rule is illegitimate. I mean, are we going to teach kids in schools that Americans do not select their rulers, but is really like Red China?

Any serious election will not have people going around with stacks of blank ballots and having people filling them out. This not only prevents voting observation but also subjects people to coercion.


Few things come to mind, DeSantis fought Disney and their wokism when everyone told him it would back fire, DeSantis stopped the mandates when everyone told him it would backfire, he has taken action against Washington when other governors talk about it. Best of all, he showed you can stop the fraud! So one question for republicans, are y'all going to put on your big boy pants now and stop this crap AS YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN HOW, or are y'all going to rally around and re-elect McConnell to lead you. Time will tell, seems the people we elect are conservative for the first few weeks after the election. We get to see if that will last after the inauguration.
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 07:15:10 AM
Quote from: Possum on November 12, 2022, 06:59:43 AMSo one question for republicans, are y'all going to put on your big boy pants now and stop this crap AS YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN HOW

Hell NO !! They will continue to whine and allow the demoRATS to do whatever they please .  :angry:  :angry:
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: T Hunt on November 12, 2022, 08:10:10 AM
Quote from: Possum on November 12, 2022, 06:59:43 AMFew things come to mind, DeSantis fought Disney and their wokism when everyone told him it would back fire, DeSantis stopped the mandates when everyone told him it would backfire, he has taken action against Washington when other governors talk about it. Best of all, he showed you can stop the fraud! So one question for republicans, are y'all going to put on your big boy pants now and stop this crap AS YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN HOW, or are y'all going to rally around and re-elect McConnell to lead you. Time will tell, seems the people we elect are conservative for the first few weeks after the election. We get to see if that will last after the inauguration.

Trump is now calling for a redo of the AZ election. I think that would be awesome if he announces something to that effect next tuesday. That would show everyone how to do that and set the stage for a 2020 redo.
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Possum on November 12, 2022, 08:32:39 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on November 12, 2022, 08:10:10 AMTrump is now calling for a redo of the AZ election. I think that would be awesome if he announces something to that effect next tuesday. That would show everyone how to do that and set the stage for a 2020 redo.
It needs to happen. Right now democrats are not even afraid of getting caught because of the friends they have in the republican party. I would like to know, why are the republicans so quite about it? Why is nobody going through the mail-in ballots??  Is anybody looking for fraud?? Is it because McConnell screwed Arizona over?  Is it because we have more rinos than we thought?
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: T Hunt on November 12, 2022, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: Possum on November 12, 2022, 08:32:39 AMIt needs to happen. Right now democrats are not even afraid of getting caught because of the friends they have in the republican party. I would like to know, why are the republicans so quite about it? Why is nobody going through the mail-in ballots??  Is anybody looking for fraud?? Is it because McConnell screwed Arizona over?  Is it because we have more rinos than we thought?

Ya our entire right wing media apparatus seems focused on the dems and not the RINOs. Were is the mass movement calling for the turtles head? Where is the push to replace all GOP leadership? Its here among the people but Im not seeing it in any of the rights leaders. I even think trump needs to call out the RINOs far more viciously, yet when he does our side complains about him going after our own. OUR OWN are the ENEMY holding us back right now.
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on November 12, 2022, 09:03:00 AMI even think trump needs to call out the RINOs far more viciously, yet when he does our side complains about him going after our own. OUR OWN are the ENEMY holding us back right now.

Did you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 12, 2022, 10:07:04 AM
Quote from: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AMDid you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
You were asked to how many of those RINO were already in office before Trump came along.
This is not a request, provide your proof or retract!
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: T Hunt on November 12, 2022, 03:04:55 PM
Quote from: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AMDid you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

What about it? Why do the never trumpers always cry whenever trump calls out the RINOs?
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2022, 08:57:25 AM
Quote from: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AMDid you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Last Chance!!!

You were asked to how many of those RINO were already in office before Trump came along.
This is not a request, provide your proof or retract!
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Billy's bayonet on November 13, 2022, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AMDid you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

ATTACK ????? Bullshit, its a typical Trump flippant remark. obody is going to "desert" Trump over that or his remarks re Youngkin
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: dee on November 13, 2022, 04:22:29 PM
Trump has egg on his face, I still love my Prez DJT
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2022, 05:15:58 PM
Quote from: dee on November 13, 2022, 04:22:29 PMTrump has egg on his face,
For what?
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 06:45:42 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2022, 08:57:25 AMYou were asked to how many of those RINO were already in office before Trump came along.
This is not a request, provide your proof or retract!

Almost half as many before Trump took office . His staff ratted him out to the media , none were loyal to him . Face it Trump is an extremely BAD judge of character ! No-one likes a blowhard self-absorbed man that attacks at will .
Who on Trump's WH staff hasn't turned on him ? How many republicans voted to have Trump impeached ?  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:   
 
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 06:48:58 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2022, 08:57:25 AMLast Chance!!!

You were asked to how many of those RINO were already in office before Trump came along.
This is not a request, provide your proof or retract!


 Mitt Romney, Republican senator and former presidential candidate:
"The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process. And really, corrupting an election process in a democratic republic is about as abusive and egregious an act against the Constitution – and one's oath – that I can imagine."
George Conway, prominent Republican, asked by Trump to head the Justice Department's civil division:
"White House counsel John Dean famously told Nixon that there was a cancer within the presidency and that it was growing. What the Mueller report disturbingly shows, with crystal clarity, is that today there is a cancer in the presidency: President Donald J. Trump. Congress now bears the solemn constitutional duty to excise that cancer without delay."
 Michael Cohen, Trump's personal attorney 2006-2018, former vice-president of The Trump Organization:
"I am ashamed of the things I did for Mr. Trump in an effort to protect and promote him. I am ashamed because I know what Mr Trump is. He is a racist. He is a conman. He is a cheat."

Anthony Scaramucci, Trump's communications director, 21-31 July 2017:
"I cannot be affiliated with this [Trump's racism] any more', I'm not going to disavow my personal integrity and my life story to support this man. I'm not going to make the equivocations that these other people are making ... No, the guy stinks and he's a racist and he's an American nativist."
 J.W. Verret, deputy director of economic policy on Trump's transition team:
"The Mueller report was that tipping point for me, and it should be for Republican and independent voters ... Mueller drafted what any reasonable reader would see as a referral to Congress to commence impeachment hearings. Depending on how you count, roughly a dozen separate instances of obstruction of justice are contained in the Mueller report."
Amanda Carpenter, former senior communications staffer to Republican senators Ted Cruz and Jim DeMint.
"In 2016, the matter of Trump's competence and whether it would impact America was speculative. We have a record now about how it has – 138,000 dead. Schools shut down across America. Families who can't see each other. Millions of people forced out of work. All because he incompetently denied the threat, existence, and deadliness of the virus."
 Michael Steele, former chairman of the Republican National Committee:
"You know what I'm looking forward to? A reporter stands up when the president says something like he's done over the last few weeks and says, 'Mr President, this is my last day on the job. You are full of shit because what you just said is a bold-faced lie to the American people'."
Joe Scarborough, former Republican congressman for Florida:
"This is another violation of constitutional norms. This is the president of the United States lying about what the FBI has been doing, lying about what the Republican FISA court judges have been doing, lying about what the Justice Department has been doing. Lying, lying, lying!"



Joel John (R) turned heads in Arizona after the Republican lawmaker endorsed Democratic candidate Adrian Fontes over Trump-backed state Rep. Mark Finchem (R) in the race for secretary of state.
Former Govs. Kathleen Sebelius and John Carlin, both Democrats, also backed Kelly for reelection.
Kris Steele (R) offered his endorsement of Horn .
 At least 16 Republicans publicly threw their support behind Shapiro in August after it was reported Mastriano posed for a photo wearing a Confederate uniform in 2014.
 Republican Lt. Gov. Bill Ratliff, have opted to support his Democratic opponent, Mike Collier.
 Carly Fiorina, 2016 Republican presidential candidate:
"I've been very clear that I can't support Donald Trump. And, you know, elections are binary choices ... I think this moment calls upon Joe Biden to be a leader. I am encouraged that Joe Biden is a person of humility and empathy and character. I think he's demonstrated that through his life." [25 June 2020]
Wade Miller, longtime Republican in Texas:
"I have always been a mostly straight-ticket voter ... But we're talking about human lives here, and if people [Trump administration] aren't willing to do what it takes to save lives, what else aren't they willing to do? I will definitely be changing my vote come November." [1 August 2020]
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2022, 06:54:11 AM
Quote from: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 06:48:58 AMMitt Romney, Republican senator and former presidential candidate:
"The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process. And really, corrupting an election process in a democratic republic is about as abusive and egregious an act against the Constitution – and one's oath – that I can imagine."
George Conway, prominent Republican, asked by Trump to head the Justice Department's civil division:
"White House counsel John Dean famously told Nixon that there was a cancer within the presidency and that it was growing. What the Mueller report disturbingly shows, with crystal clarity, is that today there is a cancer in the presidency: President Donald J. Trump. Congress now bears the solemn constitutional duty to excise that cancer without delay."
 Michael Cohen, Trump's personal attorney 2006-2018, former vice-president of The Trump Organization:
"I am ashamed of the things I did for Mr. Trump in an effort to protect and promote him. I am ashamed because I know what Mr Trump is. He is a racist. He is a conman. He is a cheat."

Anthony Scaramucci, Trump's communications director, 21-31 July 2017:
"I cannot be affiliated with this [Trump's racism] any more', I'm not going to disavow my personal integrity and my life story to support this man. I'm not going to make the equivocations that these other people are making ... No, the guy stinks and he's a racist and he's an American nativist."
 J.W. Verret, deputy director of economic policy on Trump's transition team:
"The Mueller report was that tipping point for me, and it should be for Republican and independent voters ... Mueller drafted what any reasonable reader would see as a referral to Congress to commence impeachment hearings. Depending on how you count, roughly a dozen separate instances of obstruction of justice are contained in the Mueller report."
Amanda Carpenter, former senior communications staffer to Republican senators Ted Cruz and Jim DeMint.
"In 2016, the matter of Trump's competence and whether it would impact America was speculative. We have a record now about how it has – 138,000 dead. Schools shut down across America. Families who can't see each other. Millions of people forced out of work. All because he incompetently denied the threat, existence, and deadliness of the virus."
 Michael Steele, former chairman of the Republican National Committee:
"You know what I'm looking forward to? A reporter stands up when the president says something like he's done over the last few weeks and says, 'Mr President, this is my last day on the job. You are full of shit because what you just said is a bold-faced lie to the American people'."
Joe Scarborough, former Republican congressman for Florida:
"This is another violation of constitutional norms. This is the president of the United States lying about what the FBI has been doing, lying about what the Republican FISA court judges have been doing, lying about what the Justice Department has been doing. Lying, lying, lying!"



Joel John (R) turned heads in Arizona after the Republican lawmaker endorsed Democratic candidate Adrian Fontes over Trump-backed state Rep. Mark Finchem (R) in the race for secretary of state.
Former Govs. Kathleen Sebelius and John Carlin, both Democrats, also backed Kelly for reelection.
Kris Steele (R) offered his endorsement of Horn .
 At least 16 Republicans publicly threw their support behind Shapiro in August after it was reported Mastriano posed for a photo wearing a Confederate uniform in 2014.
 Republican Lt. Gov. Bill Ratliff, have opted to support his Democratic opponent, Mike Collier.
 Carly Fiorina, 2016 Republican presidential candidate:
"I've been very clear that I can't support Donald Trump. And, you know, elections are binary choices ... I think this moment calls upon Joe Biden to be a leader. I am encouraged that Joe Biden is a person of humility and empathy and character. I think he's demonstrated that through his life." [25 June 2020]
Wade Miller, longtime Republican in Texas:
"I have always been a mostly straight-ticket voter ... But we're talking about human lives here, and if people [Trump administration] aren't willing to do what it takes to save lives, what else aren't they willing to do? I will definitely be changing my vote come November." [1 August 2020]
So all you managed to accomplish here, was prove you're an idiot kid who knows zero about politics.
Which one of those did Trump turn into a RINO? Not one, the majority were already leftist stooges, Trump in no way made them leftists.
So the question still stands, who did Trump make a leftist?

Do you even know what a fuckin RINO  is?
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 06:59:55 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2022, 06:54:11 AMSo all you managed to accomplish here, was prove you're an idiot kid who knows zero about politics.

LOL - Idiot  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl
What's the matter can't admit you were WRONG ? DO YOU LOVE CHANTING "lock her up , lock her up "  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl
So who the F is the idiot NOW ?  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl
Wait here more .........
Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), a onetime loyalist to Donald Trump who spoke at the infamous Jan. 6 rally that led to the assault on the U.S. Capitol, trashed the former president in a new interview.

"It would be a bad mistake for the Republicans to have Donald Trump as their nominee in 2024," Brooks told AL.com amid reports Trump will declare his candidacy on Tuesday.

He added:

"Donald Trump has proven himself to be dishonest, disloyal, incompetent, crude and a lot of other things that alienate so many independents and Republicans. Even a candidate who campaigns from his basement can beat him."
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2022, 07:00:18 AM
Quote from: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 06:45:42 AMAlmost half as many before Trump took office . His staff ratted him out to the media , none were loyal to him . Face it Trump is an extremely BAD judge of character ! No-one likes a blowhard self-absorbed man that attacks at will .
Who on Trump's WH staff hasn't turned on him ? How many republicans voted to have Trump impeached ?  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:   
 
Your hatred blinds you to the reality that brought us Trump. Let me see if I can enlighten you as to why people like you are mere "Tools" of the left.

With hindsight being 20/20, it has become obvious the DNC was a sacrificial lamb for the NWO.

I mean look back at what they've done over the years with the help of the media. They shaped the idea that speech should be self regulating via PC terms, proven by how the left personally outlawed Faggot, queer the term Nigger, a term based in Southern ignorance and drawl, never meant as derogatory at the time, just a descriptor of a majority of people from one area in particular, Niger.

Anyway, the left creates these and then claims the other side uses them to divide.
See how that works, they always claim we're guilty of their issues, always blame the other side for the things they do wrong.

Anyway, the left in an attempt to hide their own brutal history of slavery, they deemed the term hateful, racist, undermining of humanity, literally the very definition of what it meant in being a liberal.
We know the majority of liberal women loathe black people, they think they should never intermingle in their areas, that they have their own cities. (Leftist Plantations, Ghettos the left created) These libs actually think they're helping those undeserving niggers.
These are not my words, these are the words of liberal women.

Anyway, because of leftist hate and fear, they gladly morph into whatever their leaders tell them, yes, they have leaders, we have people who Represent our values, yet the left attacks them as "Wrong Think".

Anyway, I digress. The point is, everything the DNC did was against our Republic and the spirit of our Constitution, everything! The lefts entire history slaps in the face of our Founders ideals of Liberty and Freedom for all.

Having taken over the University system and warped the minds of two generations, they began their attack on our very basic values by attacking thousands of years of culture. Pick any topic. The left politicized it.
They literally created the gay movement, morphed it into every freak under the sun including pedophilia.

The left epitomizes evil, they are the polar opposite of a working society.
Now fast forward to today, the left worked its way into the GOP over the decades and literally controlled both party's.
What do we know about Communism and history? They divide and conquer, Right? They destroy, create civil unrest, then come in as the saviors.
Be it race, sex, weather, you name it, the left politicized it, but what did the GOP do to top any of it? Not one damn thing!

Truth is, they feigned victim. "We're not in power, we're the minority, so we must concede something.
Sound familiar? They hated being in power because it exposed exactly what they are, the lefts puppet.

We all recognize this as standard GOP behavior, it's how the left was able to slowly takeover the country.
They used the GOP as their tool, and now that we're on the precipice of global change, the left threw away the DNC
Why would they do this?

I hope others read this as well. With everything we know, what will be the Marxists next step?

I know what I would do to kneecap these commie scum. Dissolve the govt and start over. Could this be in the making? Trump? Q?
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 07:16:59 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2022, 07:00:18 AMlook back at what they've done over the years

In 2018 we lost seats, a lot of them. He gets a big piece of that demerit. Trump does far more harm than good. Trump motivates a lot of people who might not ever participate in the voting process otherwise.  The Democrats want him to run. That could be a strategic mistake .
He picked some candidates who either lost or ran far behind what they should have gotten. He collected a ton of money and then spent barely any of it. He injected dumb drama into the election by hinting that he would announce the night before, issuing stupid nicknames for Ron DeSantis while we were busy trying to win, and did not slack off even after the disappointing loss.

Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Possum on November 14, 2022, 07:46:47 AM
Quote from: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 07:16:59 AMIn 2018 we lost seats, a lot of them. He gets a big piece of that demerit. Trump does far more harm than good. Trump motivates a lot of people who might not ever participate in the voting process otherwise.  The Democrats want him to run. That could be a strategic mistake .
He picked some candidates who either lost or ran far behind what they should have gotten. He collected a ton of money and then spent barely any of it. He injected dumb drama into the election by hinting that he would announce the night before, issuing stupid nicknames for Ron DeSantis while we were busy trying to win, and did not slack off even after the disappointing loss.


Quote"Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by — if we — if he does run," he would reply. "I'm making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again."


QuoteBiden: "We have to demonstrate that [Trump] will not take power if he does run. Making sure he under the legitimate efforts of the Constitution, become the next president again." pic.twitter.com/iwE3hP2njG

    — Greg Price (@greg_price11) November 9, 2022

QuotePresident Biden made a startling suggestion that he would use "legitimate" Constitutional methods to assure Donald Trump "will not take power" if he wins the election in 2024.

These comments do not sound like the democrats are confident should Trump run, they sound like the democrats are running scared.

By the way, don't forget to answer my question, its been posted twice now.
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2022, 08:09:25 AM
Quote from: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 07:16:59 AMIn 2018 we lost seats, a lot of them. He gets a big piece of that demerit. Trump does far more harm than good. Trump motivates a lot of people who might not ever participate in the voting process otherwise.  The Democrats want him to run. That could be a strategic mistake .
He picked some candidates who either lost or ran far behind what they should have gotten. He collected a ton of money and then spent barely any of it. He injected dumb drama into the election by hinting that he would announce the night before, issuing stupid nicknames for Ron DeSantis while we were busy trying to win, and did not slack off even after the disappointing loss.


It's this kind of crap that exposes you as a kid who knows Zero about what's actually going on.
We, TEA forced these scum RINO out of office, they resigned because they knew they weren't going to be reelected.
TEA was cleaning House, we targeted these commies and continue to do so after a decade since TEAs inception.

You know a lot, but what you know is wrong!
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2022, 09:54:20 AM
Quote from: TT53 on November 14, 2022, 07:16:59 AMIn 2018 we lost seats, a lot of them. He gets a big piece of that demerit. Trump does far more harm than good. Trump motivates a lot of people who might not ever participate in the voting process otherwise.  The Democrats want him to run. That could be a strategic mistake .
He picked some candidates who either lost or ran far behind what they should have gotten. He collected a ton of money and then spent barely any of it. He injected dumb drama into the election by hinting that he would announce the night before, issuing stupid nicknames for Ron DeSantis while we were busy trying to win, and did not slack off even after the disappointing loss.



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Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: T Hunt on November 14, 2022, 10:07:05 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2022, 08:09:25 AMIt's this kind of crap that exposes you as a kid who knows Zero about what's actually going on.
We, TEA forced these scum RINO out of office, they resigned because they knew they weren't going to be reelected.
TEA was cleaning House, we targeted these commies and continue to do so after a decade since TEAs inception.

You know a lot, but what you know is wrong!

Ah youth! I remember when I first became aware of the RINO. It was 2008 and the housing collapse was happening. I told all my friends how bush, as a 'conservatives' was not going to get the govt involved and would allow bad business to fail and the free market to work. BOY WAS I WRONG!
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2022, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on November 14, 2022, 10:07:05 AMAh youth! I remember when I first became aware of the RINO. It was 2008 and the housing collapse was happening. I told all my friends how bush, as a 'conservatives' was not going to get the govt involved and would allow bad business to fail and the free market to work. BOY WAS I WRONG!
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I remember McStain defending the Dims and there wasn't a damn thing we could do about it.
It was a day the GOP proved they could be far left of the left. "Patriot Act"? WTF...
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: T Hunt on November 14, 2022, 10:12:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2022, 10:09:33 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I remember McStain defending the Dims and there wasn't a damn thing we could do about it.
It was a day the GOP proved they could be far left of the left. "Patriot Act"? WTF...

And to think, I defended the Patriot Act back when I was 19!  :scared:
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2022, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on November 14, 2022, 10:12:11 AMAnd to think, I defended the Patriot Act back when I was 19!  :scared:
You weren't alone, many did, many of us questioned it and why it wasn't temporary.
Now we know. It Was All part Of The plan.
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Possum on November 14, 2022, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2022, 10:09:33 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I remember McStain defending the Dims and there wasn't a damn thing we could do about it.
It was a day the GOP proved they could be far left of the left. "Patriot Act"? WTF...
I still think they should have buried McStain in the same casket as Teddy.
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: dee on November 14, 2022, 03:28:55 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2022, 05:15:58 PMFor what?
For some of his comments.
Title: Re: Florida Red Wave: Facts vs. Myths
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2022, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: dee on November 14, 2022, 03:28:55 PMFor some of his comments.
I disagree. Knowing whet we know now, Trump comments are actually mild compared to the damage others are trying to do to his reputation.
Think about it, the Dims and RINO are helping them steal another election. Mean Tweets? Hell, if t were me, it would be more than nasty comments. They're all NWO Scum Hell bent on destroying this country, and you think Trump's comments are bad?