There are lots of myths going around trying to explain the Florida Red Wave. Statewide going from 49.6%  Republican in 2018 to up to 61%.

MYTH: DeSantis did well because he is a incumbent.
FACT: The newly elected agricultural commissioner did as well as DeSantis

MYTH: DeSantis led the ticket and pulled the other candidates up.
FACT: The Republican attorney general candidate got more votes than DeSantis. (61%)

MYTH: Republicans in Florida got a Red Wave due to public policy stands.
FACT: Republican Red Wave was mostly due to the crackdown on voter fraud.

MYTH: No evidence of voter fraud in Florida in 2018
FACT: Senator Rick Scott found evidence of fraud in Broward County and Trump sent in Federal agents, see quote below.

Former Reagan official Paul Craig Roberts, who lives in Florida, lays it out in the below quoted article. The reason Florida got a Red Wave, as opposed to the rest of the country was because voter fraud was taken seriously. Republicans in the other states had the same policy stands as the Florida Republicans, but they had no Red Wave. The pundits give every ridiculous reason except fraud is because the vote count and fake winner announcements are seen as sacred, untouchable. The American system is based on the claim of free elections, to admit voter fraud is to say the the whole American system and rule is illegitimate. I mean, are we going to teach kids in schools that Americans do not select their rulers, but is really like Red China?

Any serious election will not have people going around with stacks of blank ballots and having people filling them out. This not only prevents voting observation but also subjects people to coercion.

QuoteHow do we reconcile Florida's red wave with the absence of one elsewhere? The answer is that Florida doesn't permit all the voting ways that make it easy to steal.
https://www.unz.com/proberts/more-thoughts-on-the-stolen-2022-election/

QuoteTrump said in a Truth Social post that he helped save DeSantis's campaign and sent the FBI and U.S. attorneys to the state to stop voter fraud.

He claimed votes were "being stolen" by a "corrupt" election process in Broward County, which is located in the Miami area, and DeSantis's lead over his Democratic opponent, Andrew Gillum, was dropping by 10,000 votes per day.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731210-trump-claims-without-evidence-he-sent-federal-agents-to-keep-desantis-election-from-being-stolen-in-2018/

Quote from: unver on November 12, 2022, 02:51:18 AMThere are lots of myths going around trying to explain the Florida Red Wave. Statewide going from 49.6%  Republican in 2018 to up to 61%.

MYTH: DeSantis did well because he is a incumbent.
FACT: The newly elected agricultural commissioner did as well as DeSantis

MYTH: DeSantis led the ticket and pulled the other candidates up.
FACT: The Republican attorney general candidate got more votes than DeSantis. (61%)

MYTH: Republicans in Florida got a Red Wave due to public policy stands.
FACT: Republican Red Wave was mostly due to the crackdown on voter fraud.

MYTH: No evidence of voter fraud in Florida in 2018
FACT: Senator Rick Scott found evidence of fraud in Broward County and Trump sent in Federal agents, see quote below.

Former Reagan official Paul Craig Roberts, who lives in Florida, lays it out in the below quoted article. The reason Florida got a Red Wave, as opposed to the rest of the country was because voter fraud was taken seriously. Republicans in the other states had the same policy stands as the Florida Republicans, but they had no Red Wave. The pundits give every ridiculous reason except fraud is because the vote count and fake winner announcements are seen as sacred, untouchable. The American system is based on the claim of free elections, to admit voter fraud is to say the the whole American system and rule is illegitimate. I mean, are we going to teach kids in schools that Americans do not select their rulers, but is really like Red China?

Any serious election will not have people going around with stacks of blank ballots and having people filling them out. This not only prevents voting observation but also subjects people to coercion.

Very well said. They keep looking for ANY excuse not to admit massive cheating. The facts show florida tamped it down and look at the results. Thats what the whole nation looks like in reality, with real legal people. In reality the right has always vastly outnumbered the left. The left is almost entirely an illusion.

Quote from: unver on November 12, 2022, 02:51:18 AMThere are lots of myths going around trying to explain the Florida Red Wave. Statewide going from 49.6%  Republican in 2018 to up to 61%.

MYTH: DeSantis did well because he is a incumbent.
FACT: The newly elected agricultural commissioner did as well as DeSantis

MYTH: DeSantis led the ticket and pulled the other candidates up.
FACT: The Republican attorney general candidate got more votes than DeSantis. (61%)

MYTH: Republicans in Florida got a Red Wave due to public policy stands.
FACT: Republican Red Wave was mostly due to the crackdown on voter fraud.

MYTH: No evidence of voter fraud in Florida in 2018
FACT: Senator Rick Scott found evidence of fraud in Broward County and Trump sent in Federal agents, see quote below.

Former Reagan official Paul Craig Roberts, who lives in Florida, lays it out in the below quoted article. The reason Florida got a Red Wave, as opposed to the rest of the country was because voter fraud was taken seriously. Republicans in the other states had the same policy stands as the Florida Republicans, but they had no Red Wave. The pundits give every ridiculous reason except fraud is because the vote count and fake winner announcements are seen as sacred, untouchable. The American system is based on the claim of free elections, to admit voter fraud is to say the the whole American system and rule is illegitimate. I mean, are we going to teach kids in schools that Americans do not select their rulers, but is really like Red China?

Any serious election will not have people going around with stacks of blank ballots and having people filling them out. This not only prevents voting observation but also subjects people to coercion.

Few things come to mind, DeSantis fought Disney and their wokism when everyone told him it would back fire, DeSantis stopped the mandates when everyone told him it would backfire, he has taken action against Washington when other governors talk about it. Best of all, he showed you can stop the fraud! So one question for republicans, are y'all going to put on your big boy pants now and stop this crap AS YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN HOW, or are y'all going to rally around and re-elect McConnell to lead you. Time will tell, seems the people we elect are conservative for the first few weeks after the election. We get to see if that will last after the inauguration.

Quote from: Possum on November 12, 2022, 06:59:43 AMSo one question for republicans, are y'all going to put on your big boy pants now and stop this crap AS YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN HOW

Hell NO !! They will continue to whine and allow the demoRATS to do whatever they please .   

Quote from: Possum on November 12, 2022, 06:59:43 AMFew things come to mind, DeSantis fought Disney and their wokism when everyone told him it would back fire, DeSantis stopped the mandates when everyone told him it would backfire, he has taken action against Washington when other governors talk about it. Best of all, he showed you can stop the fraud! So one question for republicans, are y'all going to put on your big boy pants now and stop this crap AS YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN HOW, or are y'all going to rally around and re-elect McConnell to lead you. Time will tell, seems the people we elect are conservative for the first few weeks after the election. We get to see if that will last after the inauguration.

Trump is now calling for a redo of the AZ election. I think that would be awesome if he announces something to that effect next tuesday. That would show everyone how to do that and set the stage for a 2020 redo.

Quote from: T Hunt on November 12, 2022, 08:10:10 AMTrump is now calling for a redo of the AZ election. I think that would be awesome if he announces something to that effect next tuesday. That would show everyone how to do that and set the stage for a 2020 redo.

It needs to happen. Right now democrats are not even afraid of getting caught because of the friends they have in the republican party. I would like to know, why are the republicans so quite about it? Why is nobody going through the mail-in ballots??  Is anybody looking for fraud?? Is it because McConnell screwed Arizona over?  Is it because we have more rinos than we thought?

Quote from: Possum on November 12, 2022, 08:32:39 AMIt needs to happen. Right now democrats are not even afraid of getting caught because of the friends they have in the republican party. I would like to know, why are the republicans so quite about it? Why is nobody going through the mail-in ballots??  Is anybody looking for fraud?? Is it because McConnell screwed Arizona over?  Is it because we have more rinos than we thought?

Ya our entire right wing media apparatus seems focused on the dems and not the RINOs. Were is the mass movement calling for the turtles head? Where is the push to replace all GOP leadership? Its here among the people but Im not seeing it in any of the rights leaders. I even think trump needs to call out the RINOs far more viciously, yet when he does our side complains about him going after our own. OUR OWN are the ENEMY holding us back right now.

Quote from: T Hunt on November 12, 2022, 09:03:00 AMI even think trump needs to call out the RINOs far more viciously, yet when he does our side complains about him going after our own. OUR OWN are the ENEMY holding us back right now.

Did you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!     

Quote from: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AMDid you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!     

You were asked to how many of those RINO were already in office before Trump came along.
This is not a request, provide your proof or retract!

Quote from: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AMDid you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!     

What about it? Why do the never trumpers always cry whenever trump calls out the RINOs?

Quote from: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AMDid you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!     

Last Chance!!!

You were asked to how many of those RINO were already in office before Trump came along.
This is not a request, provide your proof or retract!

Quote from: TT53 on November 12, 2022, 09:58:11 AMDid you forget his attack on Ron DeSantis ? Florida elected MORE republican representatives than Trump's New York !!!!
Who in the hell made all those RINO's - F-ing Trump !!! Trump is a cancer on the republican party and them moving forward . His time has pasted - move on . Ron is the MAN NOW !!!!!!     

ATTACK ????? Bullshit, its a typical Trump flippant remark. obody is going to "desert" Trump over that or his remarks re Youngkin

Trump has egg on his face, I still love my Prez DJT

Quote from: dee on November 13, 2022, 04:22:29 PMTrump has egg on his face,

For what?

Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2022, 08:57:25 AMYou were asked to how many of those RINO were already in office before Trump came along.
This is not a request, provide your proof or retract!

Almost half as many before Trump took office . His staff ratted him out to the media , none were loyal to him . Face it Trump is an extremely BAD judge of character ! No-one likes a blowhard self-absorbed man that attacks at will .
Who on Trump's WH staff hasn't turned on him ? How many republicans voted to have Trump impeached ?