Putin played it perfectly!!! :bigl :bigl :bigl
But Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky said Tuesday his government has reached out to Beijing. Zelensky said he has invited China to engage in talks on implementation of Kyiv's own peace formula, and that he's waiting for an answer.
"We offered China to become a partner in the implementation of the peace formula. We passed over our formula across all channels. We invite you to dialogue. We are waiting for your answer," Zelensky announced at a Tuesday a press conference. He added: "We are receiving some signals, but there are no specifics yet".
This comes after last month Zelensky issued an unexpectedly positive response to Xi's offering China's 12-point peace plan, in an effort to jumpstart negotiations. "I think the fact that China started talking about Ukraine is not bad. But the question is what follows the words," Zelensky said at the time. "I think some of the Chinese proposals respect international law, and I think we can work on it with China. Why not? Our goal is to gather many around us to isolate one [Russia]," he had added.
The reality is that since China first unveiled the broad peace plan weeks ago, its role as a mediator does appear to be taking shape.
But all the while this has resulted in cynicism and condemnation from Washington as the US watches helplessly while Beijing and Moscow embark on an unprecedented level of cooperation.
Likely pressure is also growing on Zelensky to reject any Chinese hand of friendship and mediation - seeing in it a ploy to keep Russia strong and on the offensive in Ukraine. If China-Ukraine talks do come together with an eye toward bringing in Moscow, the US certainly won't be happy.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-invites-china-peace-talks-after-no-breakthrough-xi-putin-meeting
Wait...What....does this mean the CIA refused Zelensky's surrender... :confused:
If the war ends, who will fund the democrat party????
Democrats need too stop this. I mean the peace talks, not the war. :scared: :scared:
Quote from: Bronx on March 22, 2023, 06:08:59 AMWait...What....does this mean the CIA refused Zelensky's surrender... :confused:
Soooo many questions... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Proof the NWO is no longer in charge.
Quote from: Possum on March 22, 2023, 07:13:03 AMIf the war ends, who will fund the democrat party????
Democrats need too stop this. I mean the peace talks, not the war. :scared: :scared:
This makes me grin from ear to ear. The DNC has to be shittin rocks over this, nothing they planned worked out like they were so certain it would. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Excellent summation about the turn in the Ukrainian war. It's just a matter of time now before NATO/NWO walks away.
I've been following this for a long time now, and without going to war with Russia, this thing will be over by the end of 2023.
Mike Savage Interviews Col Douglas Macgregor
Zen...
Keep in mind, Ukraine is about the size of Ca and nearly the same population, while Russia is close to the size of North America.
Russia has a population of 147.2 million and a massive industrial complex to feed its war machine.
Take of the rose colored glasses, Ukraine has two options, surrender, or die!
https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country-size-comparison/california-usa/ukraine
He Told The Truth!
Keep in mind, this is Ukraine Media.
Ukrainian commander Kupol is removed from his post for an interview with the Washington Post
"Kupol" gave an interview to one of the most influential US publications, the Washington Post, and here are his quotes from the text about the organization and preparation of the Ukrainian army for the upcoming offensive:
"We just give interviews and tell people that we are doing everything we can. It's like all we do is give interviews and tell people that we have already won, a little more, two weeks, and we will win.
I get 100 new soldiers. They don't give me time to prepare them. They say: "Take them into battle". And these soldiers just drop everything and run. And that's it. Do you understand why? Because the soldier does not shoot. I asked him why, and he said: "I'm afraid of the sound of a gunshot". And for some reason, he has never thrown a grenade. ... We need NATO instructors in all our training centers, and our instructors need to be sent to the trenches. Because they have failed in their task.
The most valuable thing in war is combat experience. A soldier who has survived six months of fighting and a soldier who has come from a training ground are two different soldiers. It's heaven and earth. And there are very few soldiers who have combat experience. Unfortunately, many have already been killed or wounded.
There is always faith in a miracle. Either it will be a bloody meat grinder and corpses, or it will be a professional counteroffensive. There are two options. In any case, there will be a counteroffensive."
All of this is true. And all this is discussed in the army. This realism is necessary for the formation of an objective picture in Ukrainian and American society. We need to realize the lack of efforts to train and organize our troops.
Unfortunately, the reaction to these important words of a successful commander has been unpleasant. "Kupol is going to be removed from his post.
Why? Because the commander cares about the lives of the soldiers and demands changes in training to conduct a successful counteroffensive, because without changes in training, no words will break through the front? This is the only possible way to win.
If he is dismissed, it will mean that the current army will lose a quality commander, the combat capability of the battalion and the brigade as a whole will be significantly reduced, the well-coordinated team will be undermined, and instead of honest analysis and real changes, analysis of mistakes, the Russian army will win, where any fair comments are denied and those who make them are oppressed, thus making it impossible to make the necessary changes.
I hope that the leadership will consider the situation, and Kupol will be retained in his position, awarded with the awards he deserves for his combat service, and his words will be fairly evaluated. We have to defeat Russia both on the frontline and in our minds - and instead of shutting our mouths, we need to start thinking and acting to improve ourselves every day.
We really hope that, after all, this story will cause a public outcry, which will force the higher military-political leadership to restore justice and reconsider its attitude towards Ukrainian military.We are not cattle! We are not in russia! We will not be silent!
https://ukrainefrontlines.com/opinion/investigations/ukrainian-commander-kupol-is-removed-from-his-post-for-an-interview-with-the-washington-post/
Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2023, 03:08:33 PMHe Told The Truth!
Keep in mind, this is Ukraine Media.
Ukrainian commander Kupol is removed from his post for an interview with the Washington Post
"Kupol" gave an interview to one of the most influential US publications, the Washington Post, and here are his quotes from the text about the organization and preparation of the Ukrainian army for the upcoming offensive:
"We just give interviews and tell people that we are doing everything we can. It's like all we do is give interviews and tell people that we have already won, a little more, two weeks, and we will win.
I get 100 new soldiers. They don't give me time to prepare them. They say: "Take them into battle". And these soldiers just drop everything and run. And that's it. Do you understand why? Because the soldier does not shoot. I asked him why, and he said: "I'm afraid of the sound of a gunshot". And for some reason, he has never thrown a grenade. ... We need NATO instructors in all our training centers, and our instructors need to be sent to the trenches. Because they have failed in their task.
The most valuable thing in war is combat experience. A soldier who has survived six months of fighting and a soldier who has come from a training ground are two different soldiers. It's heaven and earth. And there are very few soldiers who have combat experience. Unfortunately, many have already been killed or wounded.
There is always faith in a miracle. Either it will be a bloody meat grinder and corpses, or it will be a professional counteroffensive. There are two options. In any case, there will be a counteroffensive."
All of this is true. And all this is discussed in the army. This realism is necessary for the formation of an objective picture in Ukrainian and American society. We need to realize the lack of efforts to train and organize our troops.
Unfortunately, the reaction to these important words of a successful commander has been unpleasant. "Kupol is going to be removed from his post.
Why? Because the commander cares about the lives of the soldiers and demands changes in training to conduct a successful counteroffensive, because without changes in training, no words will break through the front? This is the only possible way to win.
If he is dismissed, it will mean that the current army will lose a quality commander, the combat capability of the battalion and the brigade as a whole will be significantly reduced, the well-coordinated team will be undermined, and instead of honest analysis and real changes, analysis of mistakes, the Russian army will win, where any fair comments are denied and those who make them are oppressed, thus making it impossible to make the necessary changes.
I hope that the leadership will consider the situation, and Kupol will be retained in his position, awarded with the awards he deserves for his combat service, and his words will be fairly evaluated. We have to defeat Russia both on the frontline and in our minds - and instead of shutting our mouths, we need to start thinking and acting to improve ourselves every day.
We really hope that, after all, this story will cause a public outcry, which will force the higher military-political leadership to restore justice and reconsider its attitude towards Ukrainian military.We are not cattle! We are not in russia! We will not be silent!
https://ukrainefrontlines.com/opinion/investigations/ukrainian-commander-kupol-is-removed-from-his-post-for-an-interview-with-the-washington-post/
After reading his article, I would have to add, the Ukraine troops are not trained because the democrat party wanted it that way. I understand he is asking for NATO's help to train, but in reality, he has nobody to turn to. His country was too corrupt and the democrat party used them up. I wonder if he understands how bad Obama screwed him? And there are those who think Ukraine can win??????
Quote from: Possum on March 27, 2023, 03:30:13 PMAfter reading his article, I would have to add, the Ukraine troops are not trained because the democrat party wanted it that way. I understand he is asking for NATO's help to train, but in reality, he has nobody to turn to. His country was too corrupt and the democrat party used them up. I wonder if he understands how bad Obama screwed him? And there are those who think Ukraine can win??????
Exactly! It was never about winning!
They thought they could bluff Russia. Man, today's Dims are the dumbest mother fuckers to ever steal the party, nothing more than puppets for the NWO.
Breaking: Russians Move On Bakhmut.
Putin Stopped these American commies, he is standing in their way of NATO'S New World Order.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1634938799561248770
Things are changing rapidly where support for Zelenskyy is concerned. Austrians walkout!
Support is collapsing, while Russia is about to takeover.
Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2023, 07:39:01 AMThings are changing rapidly where support for Zelenskyy is concerned. Austrians walkout!
Support is collapsing, while Russia is about to takeover.
I'm still trying to figure why they were in it in the first place? that country was corrupt and known for money laundering,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Never mind. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: Possum on March 31, 2023, 11:46:16 AMI'm still trying to figure why they were in it in the first place? that country was corrupt and known for money laundering,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Never mind. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
The only thing I can figure is, other countries were taken over much in the same way we were compromised.
Where both party's were taken over by corrupt money.
I know we can no longer count on the GOP to do anything to stop the Marxists, and the J6th crap proved that.
Truth is, we're now on our own to save this Great nation. Our Militias are quietly waiting for the order.
Thoughts?
Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2023, 11:55:16 AMThe only thing I can figure is, other countries were taken over much in the same way we were compromised.
Where both party's were taken over by corrupt money.
I know we can no longer count on the GOP to do anything to stop the Marxists, and the J6th crap proved that.
Truth is, we're now on our own to save this Great nation. Our Militias are quietly waiting for the order.
Thoughts?
If it starts, I think it will be in Florida. ( not exactly going out on a limb there) Not the best place for Democrats. I hope Trump stays where he is. Looks like DeSantis is going to give him cover.
If he does, that tells me he will back Trump in '24 and put it all in for '28. We are becoming a third world country very quickly, Trump is our best bet to stop it.
To get the republicans off their easy chair, we will need more states for give/show support for DeSantis and not leave him hanging. I think that will happen, red states can not support what is happening, no way!!!!! that would make it hard for rinos to try to sit this one out. The option I think most rino's would want to take will be the "we must save this country first". Well that ship has sailed. You can not join in with the democrats in this one. they are hell bent in destroying freedom, even rino's can see that.
We can not play the "well the D.A. thought he was doing the right thing" No he didn't. He is playing politics and hoping to be rewarded down the line. Right now we have the IRS, FBI, playing political games. I don't think we can wait until Trump is elected to win this one.
Or Trump could answer the indictment and let his lawyers win it for him, but there will be more indictments in other states coming. The cat is out of the bag. Bad as polls are, I bet every democrat will be watching them close right now.
Quote from: Possum on March 31, 2023, 12:18:19 PMIf it starts, I think it will be in Florida. ( not exactly going out on a limb there) Not the best place for Democrats. I hope Trump stays where he is. Looks like DeSantis is going to give him cover.
I don't trust DeSantis, the RINO want him to run, and hanging Trump out to dry would be expected from this group.
DeSantis is a known opportunist, literally stabbed Trump after he got his endorsement, so I expect him to do as the GOP Establishment wants.
QuoteIf he does, that tells me he will back Trump in '24 and put it all in for '28. We are becoming a third world country very quickly, Trump is our best bet to stop it.
Yep, once they realize DeSantis hasn't a chance, he'll be left with little option.
QuoteTo get the republicans off their easy chair, we will need more states for give/show support for DeSantis and not leave him hanging. I think that will happen, red states can not support what is happening, no way!!!!! that would make it hard for rinos to try to sit this one out. The option I think most rino's would want to take will be the "we must save this country first". Well that ship has sailed. You can not join in with the democrats in this one. they are hell bent in destroying freedom, even rino's can see that.
I think 28 is too far off to even consider who will run, it literally depends on the base and how well Trump rescues the country in 24.
QuoteWe can not play the "well the D.A. thought he was doing the right thing" No he didn't. He is playing politics and hoping to be rewarded down the line. Right now we have the IRS, FBI, playing political games. I don't think we can wait until Trump is elected to win this one.
Agree, we all know they're plotting to steal another election. It simply can't happen again, under any circumstances.
QuoteOr Trump could answer the indictment and let his lawyers win it for him, but there will be more indictments in other states coming. The cat is out of the bag. Bad as polls are, I bet every democrat will be watching them close right now.
Yeah, this is untested ground. We've never seen the left stoop so low as to literally interfere with an election of this scale.
I trust Trump will turn this back on the left, to the point of indictments of the left.
Regardless, this will only play into the hands of Trump. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2023, 02:36:52 PMI don't trust DeSantis, the RINO want him to run, and hanging Trump out to dry would be expected from this group.
DeSantis is a known opportunist, literally stabbed Trump after he got his endorsement, so I expect him to do as the GOP Establishment wants.
Yep, once they realize DeSantis hasn't a chance, he'll be left with little option.
I think 28 is too far off to even consider who will run, it literally depends on the base and how well Trump rescues the country in 24.
Agree, we all know they're plotting to steal another election. It simply can't happen again, under any circumstances.
Yeah, this is untested ground. We've never seen the left stoop so low as to literally interfere with an election of this scale.
I trust Trump will turn this back on the left, to the point of indictments of the left.
Regardless, this will only play into the hands of Trump. :biggrin:
Trump has the nomination for '24. If the cheating is controlled, Trump has the white house. Trump does not even need to pay attention to who is running against him in the primary. All he has to ask, did everyone like the way the country was run.
Gas was cheap.
The stock market booming.
Employment low with real jobs being created.
Interest rates low.
Inflation low.
We had a foreign policy that actually punished the bad guys.
Our allies had to pull their own weight.
The border was being brought under control.
There is no one who can compete with what Trump actually accomplished. The field can only tell us what they plan on doing. One thing we will need to remember, there will never be another Trump.
I have seen where he is planning on turning himself in to the N.Y. authorities next week. He will be able to use this at every rally to get the crowd to a fever pitch. Every time.
Quote from: Possum on March 31, 2023, 03:42:34 PMTrump has the nomination for '24. If the cheating is controlled, Trump has the white house. Trump does not even need to pay attention to who is running against him in the primary. All he has to ask, did everyone like the way the country was run.
Gas was cheap.
The stock market booming.
Employment low with real jobs being created.
Interest rates low.
Inflation low.
We had a foreign policy that actually punished the bad guys.
Our allies had to pull their own weight.
The border was being brought under control.
There is no one who can compete with what Trump actually accomplished. The field can only tell us what they plan on doing. One thing we will need to remember, there will never be another Trump.
I have seen where he is planning on turning himself in to the N.Y. authorities next week. He will be able to use this at every rally to get the crowd to a fever pitch. Every time.
But according to Zen, the Indie vote will sway the election. :rolleyes: :bigl :bigl :bigl :bigl
This election is in the bag, regardless of what they throw at Trump, the only obstacle is fraud.
Yes, it's True, but personally, I think they will go all the way in securing Kiev, in essence, the entire country.
This will assure peace.
Head of Russia's most prominent mercenary firm Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has issued an unexpected call for the Kremlin to declare an end of the war in order to consolidate territory already gained.
A Friday statement by Prigozhin released by his press service suggested it's time to declare 'victory' and to focus on fully establishing Russian control over the occupied territories of Ukraine.
"For the authorities [of the Russian Federation – ed.] and for society as a whole, it is necessary to put some kind of bold full stop in the 'special military operation'," the Wagner chief said
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wagner-group-chief-calls-putin-declare-end-war-gain-firm-foothold-held-territories
WAR SUCKS, BUT NATO did provoke this attack and got what it deserved.
RUSSIA HITS NATO BUNKER 400' DEEP, Killing Americans and Ukrainians Leadership, Just Outside Kiev.
https://english.pravda.ru/world/156387-kinzhal_nato_bunker/
This is not propaganda, you can do your own search for information, but since the US won't talk about it, Russia did.
The reason NATO/NWO sat silent about this is, because their only response would be an all out war against Russia.
But they really don't want war, they just want to keep and protect their assets in Ukraine, the Marxists largest money laundering hub in the world.
Like when Taxed and I were talking, Russia will not stop until they take all of Ukraine as the price for war.
NATO could have backed off and stopped egging for war by claiming Ukraine would be a part of NATO.
This could not stand, like the CCP building a base in Mexico.
Anyway, Russia just destroyed NATO' command center in the country, including top Ukrainian generals.
They cut the head off the snake, and they're still not done, it won't be long before Kiev finally surrenders.
I'm certain Ret. Col. MacGregor will be talking about this later today, so I'll post his video later.
Here is the reason of all Ukraine will fall.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1649325969495269377
Full Capture Of Bakhmut
(https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/INTERACTIVE-WHO-CONTROLS-WHAT-IN-UKRAINE-1684414928.png?resize=770%2C770&quality=80)
Russian state media is also declaring "The key Donbass city of Artyomovsk, known as Bakhmut in Ukraine, has been fully liberated by the Russian forces...".
Prigozhin described that full capture of the city finally came when an area containing high-rise buildings where the final Ukrainian defensive holdout had a presence was conquered.
Western media reports have said they can't verify the claims, but headlines in Reuters and the Associated Press are widely reporting the Wagner chief's declaration of victory:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wagner-declares-full-capture-bakhmut-after-224-days-fighting
Where did you hear about it? Here. :thumbup:
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