Could Signal The End Of Ukraine War

Started by Solar, March 21, 2023, 08:11:52 PM

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Putin played it perfectly!!! :bigl  :bigl  :bigl

But Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky said Tuesday his government has reached out to Beijing. Zelensky said he has invited China to engage in talks on implementation of Kyiv's own peace formula, and that he's waiting for an answer.

"We offered China to become a partner in the implementation of the peace formula. We passed over our formula across all channels. We invite you to dialogue. We are waiting for your answer," Zelensky announced at a Tuesday a press conference. He added: "We are receiving some signals, but there are no specifics yet".

This comes after last month Zelensky issued an unexpectedly positive response to Xi's offering China's 12-point peace plan, in an effort to jumpstart negotiations. "I think the fact that China started talking about Ukraine is not bad. But the question is what follows the words," Zelensky said at the time. "I think some of the Chinese proposals respect international law, and I think we can work on it with China. Why not? Our goal is to gather many around us to isolate one [Russia]," he had added.


The reality is that since China first unveiled the broad peace plan weeks ago, its role as a mediator does appear to be taking shape.

But all the while this has resulted in cynicism and condemnation from Washington as the US watches helplessly while Beijing and Moscow embark on an unprecedented level of cooperation.


Likely pressure is also growing on Zelensky to reject any Chinese hand of friendship and mediation - seeing in it a ploy to keep Russia strong and on the offensive in Ukraine. If China-Ukraine talks do come together with an eye toward bringing in Moscow, the US certainly won't be happy.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-invites-china-peace-talks-after-no-breakthrough-xi-putin-meeting
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Wait...What....does this mean the CIA refused Zelensky's surrender... :confused:
People sleep peacefully at night because there are a few tough men prepared to do violence on their behalf.

A foolish man complains about his torn pockets.

A wise man uses it to scratch his balls.

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If the war ends, who will fund the democrat party???? 
Democrats need too stop this. I mean the peace talks, not the war.  :scared:  :scared: 

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Quote from: Bronx on March 22, 2023, 06:08:59 AMWait...What....does this mean the CIA refused Zelensky's surrender... :confused:
Soooo many questions... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Proof the NWO is no longer in charge.
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Quote from: Possum on March 22, 2023, 07:13:03 AMIf the war ends, who will fund the democrat party???? 
Democrats need too stop this. I mean the peace talks, not the war.  :scared:  :scared: 
This makes me grin from ear to ear. The DNC has to be shittin rocks over this, nothing they planned worked out like they were so certain it would. :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
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Excellent summation about the turn in the Ukrainian war. It's just a matter of time now before NATO/NWO walks away.
I've been following this for a long time now, and without going to war with Russia, this thing will be over by the end of 2023.

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Zen...
Keep in mind, Ukraine is about the size of Ca and nearly the same population, while Russia is close to the size of North America.
Russia has a population of 147.2 million and a massive industrial complex to feed its war machine.

Take of the rose colored glasses, Ukraine has two options, surrender, or die!


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He Told The Truth!
Keep in mind, this is Ukraine Media.

Ukrainian commander Kupol is removed from his post for an interview with the Washington Post

"Kupol" gave an interview to one of the most influential US publications, the Washington Post, and here are his quotes from the text about the organization and preparation of the Ukrainian army for the upcoming offensive:

"We just give interviews and tell people that we are doing everything we can. It's like all we do is give interviews and tell people that we have already won, a little more, two weeks, and we will win.

I get 100 new soldiers. They don't give me time to prepare them. They say: "Take them into battle". And these soldiers just drop everything and run. And that's it. Do you understand why? Because the soldier does not shoot. I asked him why, and he said: "I'm afraid of the sound of a gunshot". And for some reason, he has never thrown a grenade. ... We need NATO instructors in all our training centers, and our instructors need to be sent to the trenches. Because they have failed in their task.

The most valuable thing in war is combat experience. A soldier who has survived six months of fighting and a soldier who has come from a training ground are two different soldiers. It's heaven and earth.  And there are very few soldiers who have combat experience. Unfortunately, many have already been killed or wounded.

There is always faith in a miracle. Either it will be a bloody meat grinder and corpses, or it will be a professional counteroffensive. There are two options. In any case, there will be a counteroffensive."

All of this is true.  And all this is discussed in the army. This realism is necessary for the formation of an objective picture in Ukrainian and American society. We need to realize the lack of efforts to train and organize our troops.

Unfortunately, the reaction to these important words of a successful commander has been unpleasant. "Kupol is going to be removed from his post.

Why? Because the commander cares about the lives of the soldiers and demands changes in training to conduct a successful counteroffensive, because without changes in training, no words will break through the front? This is the only possible way to win.

If he is dismissed, it will mean that the current army will lose a quality commander, the combat capability of the battalion and the brigade as a whole will be significantly reduced, the well-coordinated team will be undermined, and instead of honest analysis and real changes, analysis of mistakes, the Russian army will win, where any fair comments are denied and those who make them are oppressed, thus making it impossible to make the necessary changes.

I hope that the leadership will consider the situation, and Kupol will be retained in his position, awarded with the awards he deserves for his combat service, and his words will be fairly evaluated. We have to defeat Russia both on the frontline and in our minds - and instead of shutting our mouths, we need to start thinking and acting to improve ourselves every day.

We really hope that, after all, this story will cause a public outcry, which will force the higher military-political leadership to restore justice and reconsider its attitude towards Ukrainian military.We are not cattle! We are not in russia! We will not be silent!

https://ukrainefrontlines.com/opinion/investigations/ukrainian-commander-kupol-is-removed-from-his-post-for-an-interview-with-the-washington-post/
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Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2023, 03:08:33 PMHe Told The Truth!
Keep in mind, this is Ukraine Media.

Ukrainian commander Kupol is removed from his post for an interview with the Washington Post

"Kupol" gave an interview to one of the most influential US publications, the Washington Post, and here are his quotes from the text about the organization and preparation of the Ukrainian army for the upcoming offensive:

"We just give interviews and tell people that we are doing everything we can. It's like all we do is give interviews and tell people that we have already won, a little more, two weeks, and we will win.

I get 100 new soldiers. They don't give me time to prepare them. They say: "Take them into battle". And these soldiers just drop everything and run. And that's it. Do you understand why? Because the soldier does not shoot. I asked him why, and he said: "I'm afraid of the sound of a gunshot". And for some reason, he has never thrown a grenade. ... We need NATO instructors in all our training centers, and our instructors need to be sent to the trenches. Because they have failed in their task.

The most valuable thing in war is combat experience. A soldier who has survived six months of fighting and a soldier who has come from a training ground are two different soldiers. It's heaven and earth.  And there are very few soldiers who have combat experience. Unfortunately, many have already been killed or wounded.

There is always faith in a miracle. Either it will be a bloody meat grinder and corpses, or it will be a professional counteroffensive. There are two options. In any case, there will be a counteroffensive."

All of this is true.  And all this is discussed in the army. This realism is necessary for the formation of an objective picture in Ukrainian and American society. We need to realize the lack of efforts to train and organize our troops.

Unfortunately, the reaction to these important words of a successful commander has been unpleasant. "Kupol is going to be removed from his post.

Why? Because the commander cares about the lives of the soldiers and demands changes in training to conduct a successful counteroffensive, because without changes in training, no words will break through the front? This is the only possible way to win.

If he is dismissed, it will mean that the current army will lose a quality commander, the combat capability of the battalion and the brigade as a whole will be significantly reduced, the well-coordinated team will be undermined, and instead of honest analysis and real changes, analysis of mistakes, the Russian army will win, where any fair comments are denied and those who make them are oppressed, thus making it impossible to make the necessary changes.

I hope that the leadership will consider the situation, and Kupol will be retained in his position, awarded with the awards he deserves for his combat service, and his words will be fairly evaluated. We have to defeat Russia both on the frontline and in our minds - and instead of shutting our mouths, we need to start thinking and acting to improve ourselves every day.

We really hope that, after all, this story will cause a public outcry, which will force the higher military-political leadership to restore justice and reconsider its attitude towards Ukrainian military.We are not cattle! We are not in russia! We will not be silent!

https://ukrainefrontlines.com/opinion/investigations/ukrainian-commander-kupol-is-removed-from-his-post-for-an-interview-with-the-washington-post/
After reading his article, I would have to add, the Ukraine troops are not trained because the democrat party wanted it that way. I understand he is asking for NATO's help to train, but in reality, he has nobody to turn to. His country was too corrupt and the democrat party used them up. I wonder if he understands how bad Obama screwed him? And there are those who think Ukraine can win??????

Solar

Quote from: Possum on March 27, 2023, 03:30:13 PMAfter reading his article, I would have to add, the Ukraine troops are not trained because the democrat party wanted it that way. I understand he is asking for NATO's help to train, but in reality, he has nobody to turn to. His country was too corrupt and the democrat party used them up. I wonder if he understands how bad Obama screwed him? And there are those who think Ukraine can win??????
Exactly! It was never about winning!
They thought they could bluff Russia. Man, today's Dims are the dumbest mother fuckers to ever steal the party, nothing more than puppets for the NWO.
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Putin Stopped these American commies, he is standing in their way of NATO'S New World Order.


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Things are changing rapidly where support for Zelenskyy is concerned. Austrians walkout!
Support is collapsing, while Russia is about to takeover.




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