Why is everyone pissed at Brian Williams?

Started by tac, February 06, 2015, 04:47:50 AM

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tac

So he fabricated some BS story about being in a helicopter hit by RPG fire! Everyone is calling for his head on a platter, but they gave Hildabeast a pass on her BS story about being under fire in Bosnia! Hell they all lie, that's the name of the game and the reason no one should believe a word these talking heads and politicians utter!

Solar

Distraction from real stories. Never let a good crisis go to waste. And you can be sure Brian is well aware of why he's taking heat for something others have gotten away with.

Which is why I moved this to the Distraction forum.
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Quote from: tac on February 06, 2015, 04:47:50 AM
So he fabricated some BS story about being in a helicopter hit by RPG fire! Everyone is calling for his head on a platter, but they gave Hildabeast a pass on her BS story about being under fire in Bosnia! Hell they all lie, that's the name of the game and the reason no one should believe a word these talking heads and politicians utter!

Why should we accept a Canadian immigrant who lied to our faces every weekday for more than 12 years?

Go ahead. Take your time.

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We hate his guts because he lies like hell as part of a huge program of lying, which gives the leftists much of their advances, and when they're caught red-handed, they couldn't care less.

They just laugh and move along to the next big lying campaign.  And typically get a MSM pass / whitewash of it anyway.

And that's why we / I hate their guts.

Solar

Quote from: quiller on February 06, 2015, 06:11:37 AM
Why should we accept a Canadian immigrant who lied to our faces every weekday for more than 12 years?

Go ahead. Take your time.
Rush made a few good points on this yesterday, and one was the media has no issue throwing him under the bus.
Williams used to sit in for Rush on occasion as guest host, he alluded to this fact, though didn't come right out and say it, that the media took issue.
However, he too questioned why they hung one of their own out to dry, while giving Hitlary a pass.
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Quote from: Solar on February 06, 2015, 07:29:33 AM
Rush made a few good points on this yesterday, and one was the media has no issue throwing him under the bus.
Williams used to sit in for Rush on occasion as guest host, he alluded to this fact, though didn't come right out and say it, that the media took issue.
However, he too questioned why they hung one of their own out to dry, while giving Hitlary a pass.

Williams sat in for Rush?

Must have been many, many years ago.

I know that Chris Matthews (the commentator, not the football player) sat in for Rush (in the Early 2000s IIRC) I actually heard that show - it wasn't too bad either. He opened the show with a comment about knowing how Daniel felt in the lions den! :laugh:

It was before his "spittle spewing days".

But I don't remember Williams ever sitting in for Rush.



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Quote from: Solar on February 06, 2015, 07:29:33 AM
Rush made a few good points on this yesterday, and one was the media has no issue throwing him under the bus.
Williams used to sit in for Rush on occasion as guest host, he alluded to this fact, though didn't come right out and say it, that the media took issue.
However, he too questioned why they hung one of their own out to dry, while giving Hitlary a pass.
Hitlary was born here and had a shot at winning the White House. Williams, however, was (and has) neither. Williams however wins hands-down on holding an audience this many years, that many times a week. (You go, Shrill, just try and beat that one!)

Maybe their tolerance for him had been American good will to anyone from one of this planet's nicest nations. (Credit where it's due.) Maybe they held him up as better due to real or imagined outsider's objectivity. For sure they held him up as personable. (See holding an audience, above.)

I can't recall him tangling with ANYBODY on his way up. National news media are, frankly, ruthless. Williams had body armor working for him, a lot more accessible delivery in the old-school NBC manner of Brinkley only younger. He was so smooth you could run him year-round in your TV engine and never blow up. If anybody had anything on him, they'd have used it (and run it every night till he did a dive off the Brooklyn Bridge).

There wasn't much real support for Dan Rather after the Killian Memos episode finally ground down. He was one of us Yanks, maybe, or just plain long overdue for a beat-down (which I feel he was). But Rather supports Williams because lying trash media weasels need support groups, kinda-sorta-almost like Bubba Dropdrawers needs pals with private islands.

"What's the Frequency, Kenneth?" Rather is in fine company backing Williams. Maybe they can start a rest home for infotainer idiots masquerading as more than news readers.


Solar

Quote from: quiller on February 06, 2015, 01:15:51 PM
Hitlary was born here and had a shot at winning the White House. Williams, however, was (and has) neither. Williams however wins hands-down on holding an audience this many years, that many times a week. (You go, Shrill, just try and beat that one!)

Maybe their tolerance for him had been American good will to anyone from one of this planet's nicest nations. (Credit where it's due.) Maybe they held him up as better due to real or imagined outsider's objectivity. For sure they held him up as personable. (See holding an audience, above.)

I can't recall him tangling with ANYBODY on his way up. National news media are, frankly, ruthless. Williams had body armor working for him, a lot more accessible delivery in the old-school NBC manner of Brinkley only younger. He was so smooth you could run him year-round in your TV engine and never blow up. If anybody had anything on him, they'd have used it (and run it every night till he did a dive off the Brooklyn Bridge).

There wasn't much real support for Dan Rather after the Killian Memos episode finally ground down. He was one of us Yanks, maybe, or just plain long overdue for a beat-down (which I feel he was). But Rather supports Williams because lying trash media weasels need support groups, kinda-sorta-almost like Bubba Dropdrawers needs pals with private islands.

"What's the Frequency, Kenneth?" Rather is in fine company backing Williams. Maybe they can start a rest home for infotainer idiots masquerading as more than news readers.
Rather backing Williams, is akin to Clinton backing Hussein's character when caught in a bath house.
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Quote from: tac on February 06, 2015, 04:47:50 AM
So he fabricated some BS story about being in a helicopter hit by RPG fire! Everyone is calling for his head on a platter, but they gave Hildabeast a pass on her BS story about being under fire in Bosnia! Hell they all lie, that's the name of the game and the reason no one should believe a word these talking heads and politicians utter!

The MSM gave Hillary a pass as they are giving Williams a pass.


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Quote from: Solar on February 06, 2015, 07:29:33 AM
Rush made a few good points on this yesterday, and one was the media has no issue throwing him under the bus.
Williams used to sit in for Rush on occasion as guest host, he alluded to this fact, though didn't come right out and say it, that the media took issue.
However, he too questioned why they hung one of their own out to dry, while giving Hitlary a pass.
I'm pretty sure Brian Williams never guest hosted for Rush. Walter Williams, yes, many times. Brian Williams, no.

As for the issue in general, I don't pretend to know what will happen to Williams. He clearly lied about the RPG hit, etc., and now it appears that he may have told some whoppers about what he saw and experienced in post-Katrina New Orleans. But I think it may be a stretch to conclude that NBC will under-bus him for lies he told about events that happened 10-12 years ago. Consider too that there isn't anyone waiting in the wings to replace him. He's been dragging down millions every year because he's foreign-born, he's pretty, and he's good at reading a TelePrompTer. (Now who does that remind me of?) Introducing him to the underside of an omnibus would be admitting that he's a liar -- not necessarily that every word the man says is a lie, but that he's willing and able to tell some rather sizable stretchers under certain circumstances. Lest we forget, NBC, parent company of MSNBC, is one of the leaders of the far-Left MSM. Its mission is less the dissemination of facts than the spread of propaganda. The widespread acceptance of that propaganda depends on the perception that its delivery man -- Brian Williams, in this case -- is trustworthy, that his words can be accepted as fact or truth. To jettison Williams now is to publicly admit that he's not trustworthy enough to serve as NBC's Nightly News anchor, and by extension that everything he's told his audience over his years in that seat is suspect.

Time will tell, but there are strong motivations for NBC to sweep this under the rug, the way CBS did when Dan Rather got caught with his pants around his ankles. Consider for starters that none of the three major network news organizations are covering the story at all. The memory hole is being held open...
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Quote from: TboneAgain on February 07, 2015, 09:29:17 AM
I'm pretty sure Brian Williams never guest hosted for Rush. Walter Williams, yes, many times. Brian Williams, no.

As for the issue in general, I don't pretend to know what will happen to Williams. He clearly lied about the RPG hit, etc., and now it appears that he may have told some whoppers about what he saw and experienced in post-Katrina New Orleans. But I think it may be a stretch to conclude that NBC will under-bus him for lies he told about events that happened 10-12 years ago. Consider too that there isn't anyone waiting in the wings to replace him. He's been dragging down millions every year because he's foreign-born, he's pretty, and he's good at reading a TelePrompTer. (Now who does that remind me of?) Introducing him to the underside of an omnibus would be admitting that he's a liar -- not necessarily that every word the man says is a lie, but that he's willing and able to tell some rather sizable stretchers under certain circumstances. Lest we forget, NBC, parent company of MSNBC, is one of the leaders of the far-Left MSM. Its mission is less the dissemination of facts than the spread of propaganda. The widespread acceptance of that propaganda depends on the perception that its delivery man -- Brian Williams, in this case -- is trustworthy, that his words can be accepted as fact or truth. To jettison Williams now is to publicly admit that he's not trustworthy enough to serve as NBC's Nightly News anchor, and by extension that everything he's told his audience over his years in that seat is suspect.

Time will tell, but there are strong motivations for NBC to sweep this under the rug, the way CBS did when Dan Rather got caught with his pants around his ankles. Consider for starters that none of the three major network news organizations are covering the story at all. The memory hole is being held open...
Rush actually said he did.
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Quote from: Solar on February 07, 2015, 09:41:31 AM
Rush actually said he did.
I'm guessing you mis-heard or maybe caught a fragment. I listened to most of Friday's show, and I didn't hear that. I can't find any record anywhere of Rush saying that, or of Brian Williams guest hosting Rush's show. Rush did dabble with some questionable guest hosts -- at least some we'd consider questionable today. Chris Matthews, for example, did a guest host stint -- exactly one show, around 1997 -- back in the early days of MSNBC, when the network and Matthews were (briefly and falsely) seen as legitimate purveyors of news. But I can't find any record of Brian Williams guest-hosting the Limbaugh show.

Here's the closest I can come in the transcript of Rush's Friday show:

QuoteRUSH:  Okay, so this is not... (sigh) I'm not comfortable here. You know, this is why, folks, I really don't go out of my way to meet a whole lot of people "in the news," people in politics. You end up talk about them, and the more you know them and the closer you get to them, the harder it gets.  I've met Brian Williams a number of times, and he's been nothing but friendly and funny and engaging, and he's been fair.  This is just hard.  But, I'm sorry, this was not a "mistake."
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Quote from: Solar on February 06, 2015, 05:26:52 AM
Distraction from real stories. Never let a good crisis go to waste. And you can be sure Brian is well aware of why he's taking heat for something others have gotten away with.

Which is why I moved this to the Distraction forum.

Does anyone on this board really care whether Williams is fired or not. We know NBC is all in for the libs and I don't spend any time watching any NBC news program.
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Quote from: TboneAgain on February 07, 2015, 10:31:24 AM
I'm guessing you mis-heard or maybe caught a fragment. I listened to most of Friday's show, and I didn't hear that. I can't find any record anywhere of Rush saying that, or of Brian Williams guest hosting Rush's show. Rush did dabble with some questionable guest hosts -- at least some we'd consider questionable today. Chris Matthews, for example, did a guest host stint -- exactly one show, around 1997 -- back in the early days of MSNBC, when the network and Matthews were (briefly and falsely) seen as legitimate purveyors of news. But I can't find any record of Brian Williams guest-hosting the Limbaugh show.

Here's the closest I can come in the transcript of Rush's Friday show:
Sorry, heard it  clear as day, and after he said it he pointed out even Tingles guest hosted as well..

I looked it up, and it appears he only called the show. I was busy doing other stuff, so I probably didn't hear the other stuff in between when he referred to Tingles.
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