And.......if they did--could they hope for any success?
Personally, I do not think they will--I do not think the Tea Partiers are up for that....way too mired in their loyalty to the Republican Party come hell or high water. I hope I am wrong on this but unfortunately I do not think so.
But even if they did, would there be any hope for their candidate?
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful)
Nah. We're fine.
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 07, 2014, 09:53:04 AM
Nah. We're fine.
Will you still be fine if Jeb Bush, Romney(yes he is thinking about it) rubio or any of the other establishment candidates gets the nod?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 09:57:43 AM
Will you still be fine if Jeb Bush, Romney(yes he is thinking about it) rubio or any of the other establishment candidates gets the nod?
Do you have any clue as to how many party's already exist?
Thew plan is to steal the party from the socialists.
The GOP never has been a Conservative party, it's time for change. But we get your drift, you want to see the vote split.
Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2014, 10:22:53 AM
Do you have any clue as to how many party's already exist?
Thew plan is to steal the party from the socialists.
The GOP never has been a Conservative party, it's time for change. But we get your drift, you want to see the vote split.
We will see more and more of this from the Dem's. (Left) Flinging poo just to see if anything will stick.
Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2014, 10:22:53 AM
Do you have any clue as to how many party's already exist?
Thew plan is to steal the party from the socialists.
The GOP never has been a Conservative party, it's time for change. But we get your drift, you want to see the vote split.
First of all I don't think you read the link--anyhow--what I want is a Repubilicn Candidate that can win. None of the establishment candidates are capable of that.
The tea party unfortunately does not appear to me to be motivated enough, even if for istance Jeb Bush gets the nod, to do anything but sit back and hope for the best like they did with romney.
Quote from: walkstall on April 07, 2014, 10:29:41 AM
We will see more and more of this from the Dem's. (Left) Flinging poo just to see if anything will stick.
I thought it was getting a little stinky in here.
Quote from: walkstall on April 07, 2014, 10:29:41 AM
We will see more and more of this from the Dem's. (Left) Flinging poo just to see if anything will stick.
The above is a good example of the confusion that exists in the Tea Party and precisely why I doubt they are capable of accomplishing what needs to be accomplished.
Unfortunately, they are content to stay on the sidelines and try and lobby the Republican Party to become more conservative---a losing battle. The mainstream republican won out last time and I think they will again.
There is a civil war going on in the Republican Party but too many tea partiers want to make like all is well and that stream of thought is obvious on this board. People like Karl Rove and Mitch Mconnell are playing hard ball but too many Tea Partiers are stuck on playing soft ball.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/09/on-notice-mitch-mcconnell-is-ready-to-crush-the-tea-party/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/09/on-notice-mitch-mcconnell-is-ready-to-crush-the-tea-party/)
http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/2587852/2147483647/thumbnail/766x511%3E/format/png/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2F6a%2F91%2Fbc3c404a4ce181e51b2a5e835b60%2F20140311edhoc-a.tif (http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/2587852/2147483647/thumbnail/766x511%3E/format/png/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2F6a%2F91%2Fbc3c404a4ce181e51b2a5e835b60%2F20140311edhoc-a.tif)
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 09:38:25 AM
And.......if they did--could they hope for any success?
Personally, I do not think they will--I do not think the Tea Partiers are up for that....way too mired in their loyalty to the Republican Party come hell or high water. I hope I am wrong on this but unfortunately I do not think so.
But even if they did, would there be any hope for their candidate?
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful)
Why would I want to split from my party? The RINOs and libs can go join the Democrat party. They're in more of a civil war than the Republicans are.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 11:06:02 AM
The above is a good example of the confusion that exists in the Tea Party and precisely why I doubt they are capable of accomplishing what needs to be accomplished.
Unfortunately, they are content to stay on the sidelines and try and lobby the Republican Party to become more conservative---a losing battle. The mainstream republican won out last time and I think they will again.
If they are on the sidelines how do you explain the Tea Party caucus in the House?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 11:38:41 AM
There is a civil war going on in the Republican Party but too many tea partiers want to make like all is well and that stream of thought is obvious on this board. People like Karl Rove and Mitch Mconnell are playing hard ball but too many Tea Partiers are stuck on playing soft ball.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/09/on-notice-mitch-mcconnell-is-ready-to-crush-the-tea-party/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/09/on-notice-mitch-mcconnell-is-ready-to-crush-the-tea-party/)
http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/2587852/2147483647/thumbnail/766x511%3E/format/png/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2F6a%2F91%2Fbc3c404a4ce181e51b2a5e835b60%2F20140311edhoc-a.tif (http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/2587852/2147483647/thumbnail/766x511%3E/format/png/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2F6a%2F91%2Fbc3c404a4ce181e51b2a5e835b60%2F20140311edhoc-a.tif)
Why do I sense a disconnect from reality here?
In 2010 we took more than 700 Legislative seats across the Nation, and that's when TEA was in it's infancy.
Are you not paying attention?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 11:06:02 AM
The above is a good example of the confusion that exists in the Tea Party and precisely why I doubt they are capable of accomplishing what needs to be accomplished.
Unfortunately, they are content to stay on the sidelines and try and lobby the Republican Party to become more conservative---a losing battle. The mainstream republican won out last time and I think they will again.
Who is in control of the House right now?
Quote from: taxed on April 07, 2014, 12:26:31 PM
Why would I want to split from my party? The RINOs and libs can go join the Democrat party. They're in more of a civil war than the Republicans are.
Your analysis is extremely flawed.....anyhow.....of course no republican wants to split from his party.
Yet and unfortunately if the mainstreamers remain in control and thus will be able to select the next candidate....that could very well mean the end of the Republican Party...I do not think they can survive another defeat.
http://www.politico.com//blogs/media/2013/01/the-gop-civil-war-is-just-beginning-153545.html (http://www.politico.com//blogs/media/2013/01/the-gop-civil-war-is-just-beginning-153545.html)
But more important than any party is the future of the country...we have barely survived Obama....well actually we haven't yet...but if we do survive 3 more years of obama we will be in a much weaker position than we already are in....thus it is vitally important that the next President is a true conservative---if the democrats are able to put another 'disaster' is the oval office I do not think America...at least as we know it...will be able to endure.
Yet, the Tea Party the only group that has any potential to stop the approaching Republican Train Wreck aka the selection of another pc/liberal/moderate presidential candidate seems to not to be concerned enough about the approaching tragedy to really do what needs to be done.
Quote from: taxed on April 07, 2014, 12:44:10 PM
Who is in control of the House right now?
Of the 233 Republicans, 51 are members of the Tea Party Caucus, give or take a few The other 182 are what I will call Establishment Republicans.
Irregardless.......what do you think the chances are that the Republican Party will nominate a candidate that does not represent the establishment?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
Of the 233 Republicans, 51 are members of the Tea Party Caucus, give or take a few The other 182 are what I will call Establishment Republicans.
Irregardless.......what do you think the chances are that the Republican Party will nominate a candidate that does not represent the establishment?
We gained 51 seats in 4 years. That's pretty damn good.
Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2014, 12:33:48 PM
Why do I sense a disconnect from reality here?
In 2010 we took more than 700 Legislative seats across the Nation, and that's when TEA was in it's infancy.
Are you not paying attention?
A lot has happened since 2010....most important of all the miserable failure of the Tea Partiers to stop the republican mainstsream from going with Romney. That speaks volumes and I see nothing to convince me it will not happen again...
The bottom line is simply this--the Big Wig East Coast Politically Correct Republicans had rather see the White House won again by the democrats than to see a True Conservative get in there.
Do not forget what happened in Virgina: https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/92490-gop-gives-virginia-democrats-instead-giving-tea-party-social-conservatives-win/&sa=U&ei=XQxDU_KPMtfLsQTIpIHIBg&ved=0CAYQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHhlhz9E9n8z6fA-6- (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/92490-gop-gives-virginia-democrats-instead-giving-tea-party-social-conservatives-win/&sa=U&ei=XQxDU_KPMtfLsQTIpIHIBg&ved=0CAYQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHhlhz9E9n8z6fA-6-)
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 07, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
We gained 51 seats in 4 years. That's pretty damn good.
Tea Partiers are living in a fantasy world....they seem not to understand that war has been declared upon them by the establishment.....you see it demonstrated all too clearly on this board...a group isolates themselves(they either ban or bury on the back pages anyone who tries to enlighten them) slap each other on the back and pretend they will win next time....essentially unwilling to do what they need to do aka....have a convention, elect a leader, put out a platform and begin a massive grass roots organizing campaign....and essentially tell the Republican party they will not accept another establishment/politically correct candidate.
The problem being with the above I suppose is that Tea Partiers are so confused and disorganized they cannot agree to do that.
Most of them (at least the ones on here)appear not to understand even why romney lost...and definitely have no clue as to what is needed next time to defeat the democrats.
I am suprised I have not been banned already....I suppose they had rather go the underhanded route and move me to the back pages...heh heh
Like they think they are fooling anyone into believing they do not engage in censorship....the word is out on this board...either kowtow to those who run it or get banned ....so go ahead boys....ban me now....save youselves from the truth and more embarassment...cuz I gurantee you assholes I do not pull my punches and kowtow to no one. Got Dat? Deal wid it chumps.
Good grief..... the Basement Brigade strikes again.... :ttoung: :cool: :popcorn:
Yep, the hated Rubioites banded together in Va. to assure a dem victory.
Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2014, 10:22:53 AM
Do you have any clue as to how many party's already exist?
Thew plan is to steal the party from the socialists.
The GOP never has been a Conservative party, it's time for change. But we get your drift, you want to see the vote split.
Not at all, but, if the GOP wants to remain a haven for liberals pretending to be that which they are not. Like for example Boehner, then I have to admit I would much rather see another party to choose from.
And yes while there are thousands of "parties" technically. Lets face it we all know that one of two are going to win the majority, and or the Whitehouse.
Either the GOP or the Dimocrap party.
That's a bi-cameral system, not a republic. And not what was intended for our nation either when it was founded btw but I digress.
So yes solar, while it may split the vote, and it may in the short term cost an election or two.
I think you have to admit we as a nation, as things are today, if they continue business as usual, would be better off in the long run, simply getting rid of the GOP as a viable political party. Replacing it with one which actually does take such things as the Constitution and doing their job seriously.
Of course, we could avoid all that, or any need for that quite easily, if we as a people instituted term limits.
Get rid of lifelong never did nothing politicians and return Washington to what it was intended to be, and wow how far and big a step it would be to fixing our republic.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 01:50:10 PM
Tea Partiers are living in a fantasy world....they seem not to understand that war has been declared upon them by the establishment.....you see it demonstrated all too clearly on this board...a group isolates themselves(they either ban or bury on the back pages anyone who tries to enlighten them) slap each other on the back and pretend they will win next time....essentially unwilling to do what they need to do aka....have a convention, elect a leader, put out a platform and begin a massive grass roots organizing campaign....and essentially tell the Republican party they will not accept another establishment/politically correct candidate.
The problem being with the above I suppose is that Tea Partiers are so confused and disorganized they cannot agree to do that.
Most of them (at least the ones on here)appear not to understand even why romney lost...and definitely have no clue as to what is needed next time to defeat the democrats.
I am suprised I have not been banned already....I suppose they had rather go the underhanded route and move me to the back pages...heh heh
Like they think they are fooling anyone into believing they do not engage in censorship....the word is out on this board...either kowtow to those who run it or get banned ....so go ahead boys....ban me now....save youselves from the truth and more embarassment...cuz I gurantee you assholes I do not pull my punches and kowtow to no one. Got Dat? Deal wid it chumps.
Grow up sunshine.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 07, 2014, 03:53:41 PM
Grow up sunshine.
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Femoticons%2Femoticon-cartoon-013.gif&hash=cb73687aec7361f21a26987158a23933733a84f2) He would have to move out of his mother's basement first.
Quote from: walkstall on April 07, 2014, 04:17:26 PM
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Femoticons%2Femoticon-cartoon-013.gif&hash=cb73687aec7361f21a26987158a23933733a84f2) He would have to move out of his mother's basement first.
May you get passage out of the old village safely, and when you settle, may you fall into the outhouse just as a regiment of Ukrainians is finishing a prune stew and twelve barrels of beer.
Quote from: daidalos on April 07, 2014, 03:27:04 PM
Not at all, but, if the GOP wants to remain a haven for liberals pretending to be that which they are not. Like for example Boehner, then I have to admit I would much rather see another party to choose from.
And yes while there are thousands of "parties" technically. Lets face it we all know that one of two are going to win the majority, and or the Whitehouse.
Either the GOP or the Dimocrap party.
That's a bi-cameral system, not a republic. And not what was intended for our nation either when it was founded btw but I digress.
So yes solar, while it may split the vote, and it may in the short term cost an election or two.
I think you have to admit we as a nation, as things are today, if they continue business as usual, would be better off in the long run, simply getting rid of the GOP as a viable political party. Replacing it with one which actually does take such things as the Constitution and doing their job seriously.
Of course, we could avoid all that, or any need for that quite easily, if we as a people instituted term limits.
Get rid of lifelong never did nothing politicians and return Washington to what it was intended to be, and wow how far and big a step it would be to fixing our republic.
Exactly.....Spot On!
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
May you get passage out of the old village safely, and when you settle, may you fall into the outhouse just as a regiment of Ukrainians is finishing a prune stew and twelve barrels of beer.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Meet our new basement kid. :lol:
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orble.com%2Fimages%2Fcrying-baby21.jpg&hash=16257a81171622bcf83db52250427ea6a2f4212a)
Just another headless chicken that somehow manages to live....most likely on the taxpayers dime. heh heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-LCsiWL6gn0#t=20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-LCsiWL6gn0#t=20)
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 06:42:41 PM
Just another headless chicken that somehow manages to live....most likely on the taxpayers dime. heh heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-LCsiWL6gn0#t=20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-LCsiWL6gn0#t=20)
At least you posted something worth looking at, keep up the good work, I think your starting to grow on me. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
May you get passage out of the old village safely, and when you settle, may you fall into the outhouse just as a regiment of Ukrainians is finishing a prune stew and twelve barrels of beer.
Wow your insults are lame. Maybe when you grow up you might get better.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 07, 2014, 07:01:28 PM
Wow your insults are lame. Maybe when you grow up you might get better.
His mom did promised him a Etch A Sketch.
Quote from: walkstall on April 07, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
His mom did promised him a Etch A Sketch.
Bad move. He'll hurt himself...
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 07, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
Bad move. He'll hurt himself...
It's ok :lol: for he is on his mom obamacare. Well until b o changes it again. You see the young people over 26 are not falling in line, b o may have to make some more changes yet. :popcorn:
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 01:50:10 PM
Tea Partiers are living in a fantasy world....they seem not to understand that war has been declared upon them by the establishment.....you see it demonstrated all too clearly on this board...a group isolates themselves(they either ban or bury on the back pages anyone who tries to enlighten them) slap each other on the back and pretend they will win next time....essentially unwilling to do what they need to do aka....have a convention, elect a leader, put out a platform and begin a massive grass roots organizing campaign....and essentially tell the Republican party they will not accept another establishment/politically correct candidate.
The problem being with the above I suppose is that Tea Partiers are so confused and disorganized they cannot agree to do that.
Most of them (at least the ones on here)appear not to understand even why romney lost...and definitely have no clue as to what is needed next time to defeat the democrats.
I am suprised I have not been banned already....I suppose they had rather go the underhanded route and move me to the back pages...heh heh
Like they think they are fooling anyone into believing they do not engage in censorship....the word is out on this board...either kowtow to those who run it or get banned ....so go ahead boys....ban me now....save youselves from the truth and more embarassment...cuz I gurantee you assholes I do not pull my punches and kowtow to no one. Got Dat? Deal wid it chumps.
Your post reflects the concern with the effectiveness of the TEA. It is not a party, it is a grass roots movement. Just its nature is foreign to both pub and dem establishment types. The TEA has evolved to where they are now concentrating on local races and have been most effective. Just look at IN, NC, OH, WI and the list goes on. On the national level it has impacted the House and very likely will impact the Senate in 2014. We welcome your attempt to disregard the TEA. Please share your feelings with all you friends.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 08, 2014, 04:38:30 AM
Your post reflects the concern with the effectiveness of the TEA. It is not a party, it is a grass roots movement. Just its nature is foreign to both pub and dem establishment types. The TEA has evolved to where they are now concentrating on local races and have been most effective. Just look at IN, NC, OH, WI and the list goes on. On the national level it has impacted the House and very likely will impact the Senate in 2014. We welcome your attempt to disregard the TEA. Please share your feelings with all you friends.
Whilst the above poster is no doubt a good person and thinks the Tea Party is on the right track, it is my duty to tell the truth as I see it and the fact of the matter is: that it is unpleasant and even painful to many as the truth often is---unfortunately, the above poster demonstrates the mindset of those who will allow another democrat to win the presidency.
I warned them when they supported Romney, I told them he was a loser, I told them they(republican party)needed to address the problems and cocerns of the biggest voting bloc in this nation(The White Working Class)they ignored me and others who attempted to enlighten them. They ignored us and were shocked when our predictions came true.
Now if the Tea Party is more concerned with remaining a moderate force concerned more with local politics than the future of this nation then there is not much anyone can do for them......until and unless they broaden their horizons.
I and others have tried to explain to them they are limiting unessacarily the great opportunity they have to be a real power broker, squandering the opportunity to redeem America, failing to understand they do have the ability to change the course of America and insure that a Real Conservative occupies the White House next time.
There is none so blind as he who refuses to see.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 01:38:12 PM
A lot has happened since 2010....most important of all the miserable failure of the Tea Partiers to stop the republican mainstsream from going with Romney. That speaks volumes and I see nothing to convince me it will not happen again...
The bottom line is simply this--the Big Wig East Coast Politically Correct Republicans had rather see the White House won again by the democrats than to see a True Conservative get in there.
Do not forget what happened in Virgina: https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/92490-gop-gives-virginia-democrats-instead-giving-tea-party-social-conservatives-win/&sa=U&ei=XQxDU_KPMtfLsQTIpIHIBg&ved=0CAYQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHhlhz9E9n8z6fA-6- (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/92490-gop-gives-virginia-democrats-instead-giving-tea-party-social-conservatives-win/&sa=U&ei=XQxDU_KPMtfLsQTIpIHIBg&ved=0CAYQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHhlhz9E9n8z6fA-6-)
Again, the TEA was in it's infancy. What is it with you only wanting to see the dire, while the positive outweighs anything that can come close to anything in history?
Controlling both Houses is the goal, and taking the Speakership from the RINO/socialists, so it really doesn't matter who is POTUS, they will have to deal with a Conservative House.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
Whilst the above poster is no doubt a good person and thinks the Tea Party is on the right track, it is my duty to tell the truth as I see it and the fact of the matter is: that it is unpleasant and even painful to many as the truth often is---unfortunately, the above poster demonstrates the mindset of those who will allow another democrat to win the presidency.
Your arrogance is noted.
I warned them when they supported Romney, I told them he was a loser, I told them they(republican party)needed to address the problems and cocerns of the biggest voting bloc in this nation(The White Working Class)they ignored me and others who attempted to enlighten them. They ignored us and were shocked when our predictions came true.
Thanks for confirming my point. Romney is a fine man, but not a true conservative. We disagree that the "White working class" is not willing to support a conservative.
Now if the Tea Party is more concerned with remaining a moderate force concerned more with local politics than the future of this nation then there is not much anyone can do for them......until and unless they broaden their horizons.
Your assumption is wrong that the TEA is concerned with only local politics. However, that is how to build a solid base. It is a process, not a one time effort. Your dodge of the success of TEA candidates in local and stated races is noted.
I and others have tried to explain to them they are limiting unessacarily the great opportunity they have to be a real power broker, squandering the opportunity to redeem America, failing to understand they do have the ability to change the course of America and insure that a Real Conservative occupies the White House next time.
Now just what should the TEA do to accomplish what you say?
There is none so blind as he who refuses to see.
At least Tee is consistent as his arroagance is showing again.
Quote from: walkstall on April 07, 2014, 06:51:56 PM
At least you posted something worth looking at, keep up the good work, I think your starting to grow on me. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh look the loudmouthed shnook opened his piehole--its cartoon time folks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L8TQZBHszI4#t=8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L8TQZBHszI4#t=8)
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
Whilst the above poster is no doubt a good person and thinks the Tea Party is on the right track, it is my duty to tell the truth as I see it and the fact of the matter is: that it is unpleasant and even painful to many as the truth often is---unfortunately, the above poster demonstrates the mindset of those who will allow another democrat to win the presidency.
I warned them when they supported Romney, I told them he was a loser, I told them they(republican party)needed to address the problems and cocerns of the biggest voting bloc in this nation(The White Working Class)they ignored me and others who attempted to enlighten them. They ignored us and were shocked when our predictions came true.
Now if the Tea Party is more concerned with remaining a moderate force concerned more with local politics than the future of this nation then there is not much anyone can do for them......until and unless they broaden their horizons.
I and others have tried to explain to them they are limiting unessacarily the great opportunity they have to be a real power broker, squandering the opportunity to redeem America, failing to understand they do have the ability to change the course of America and insure that a Real Conservative occupies the White House next time.
There is none so blind as he who refuses to see.
They didn't support Romney. That sentence of yours alone proves you have no idea what you are talking about.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
Whilst the above poster is no doubt a good person and thinks the Tea Party is on the right track, it is my duty to tell the truth as I see it and the fact of the matter is: that it is unpleasant and even painful to many as the truth often is---unfortunately, the above poster demonstrates the mindset of those who will allow another democrat to win the presidency.
All that condescension and yet you failed to explain why.
QuoteI warned them when they supported Romney,
The Tea Party as a whole did not support Romney
QuoteI told them he was a loser, I told them they(republican party)needed to address the problems and cocerns of the biggest voting bloc in this nation(The White Working Class)they ignored me and others who attempted to enlighten them. They ignored us and were shocked when our predictions came true.
Bollocks. Romney's economic polices would directly impacted the middle class and the poor positively. Turnout was why he lost.
QuoteNow if the Tea Party is more concerned with remaining a moderate force concerned more with local politics than the future of this nation then there is not much anyone can do for them......until and unless they broaden their horizons.
They have a caucus in the House, helped elect over 700 Republicans nationwide and have some very good candidates for 2014. You fail again. The Tea Party has been deeply involved in local and state politics because we need a good solid Conservative foundation. Without that a Conservative President will be much less influential.
QuoteI and others have tried to explain to them they are limiting unessacarily the great opportunity they have to be a real power broker, squandering the opportunity to redeem America, failing to understand they do have the ability to change the course of America and insure that a Real Conservative occupies the White House next time.
They stopped Obama's legislative agenda in it's tracks, took control of the house so I'd say they are doing just fine.
QuoteThere is none so blind as he who refuses to see.
And there is none so ignorant of politics as you.
Read a book.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 07, 2014, 09:38:25 AM
And.......if they did--could they hope for any success?
Personally, I do not think they will--I do not think the Tea Partiers are up for that....way too mired in their loyalty to the Republican Party come hell or high water. I hope I am wrong on this but unfortunately I do not think so.
But even if they did, would there be any hope for their candidate?
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful)
In the term "tea party," the word "party" isn't a reference to a political party. It's a reference to the Boston Tea Party because like the Sons of Liberty, they think government is spending too much money and taxes are too high. Since they are not a political party, your question doesn't make logical sense. Other than the basic ideas that government is spending and taxing too much, they have a lot of different philosophies.
Are you a liberal? Liberals are the only ones I've heard who don't really understand what the Tea Party is.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 12:15:14 PM
In the term "tea party," the word "party" isn't a reference to a political party. It's a reference to the Boston Tea Party because like the Sons of Liberty, they think government is spending too much money and taxes are too high. Since they are not a political party, your question doesn't make logical sense. Other than the basic ideas that government is spending and taxing too much, they have a lot of different philosophies.
Are you a liberal? Liberals are the only ones I've heard who don't really understand what the Tea Party is.
I will not bother to try to describe what the Tea Party is....a waste of time.
What I am willing to discuss is what the Tea Party Should be.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:31:39 PM
I will not bother to try to describe what the Tea Party is....a waste of time.
What I am willing to discuss is what the Tea Party Should be.
What do you not like about them?
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 12:15:14 PM
In the term "tea party," the word "party" isn't a reference to a political party. It's a reference to the Boston Tea Party because like the Sons of Liberty, they think government is spending too much money and taxes are too high. Since they are not a political party, your question doesn't make logical sense. Other than the basic ideas that government is spending and taxing too much, they have a lot of different philosophies.
Are you a liberal? Liberals are the only ones I've heard who don't really understand what the Tea Party is.
He's one of those that thinks he's smarter than everyone else. In other words chronically stupid...
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 11:28:35 AM
They didn't support Romney. That sentence of yours alone proves you have no idea what you are talking about.
You really butchered my post but you did get one thing right..........Romney lost because of the turnout.............aka The White Working Class did not turn out for Romny....at least in the numbers he needed....he did carry a majority of the White Working Class Vote...but he needed about 72% of that vote to win and he did not get it....about 2 million of them stayed home rather than vote for a politically correct, cultist who as a rich man show no sympathy nor understanding of the White Working class..but I do congratulate for understanding that. Which of course is something the Republican Party Bigwigs do not understand as they are proceeding down a similar path...aka....select another politically correct moderate to head the ticket.
Psssssssssst Republicans listen up: one definition of isanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
You really butchered my post but you did get one thing right..........Romney lost because of the turnout.............aka The White Working Class did not turn out for Romny....at least in the numbers he needed....he did carry a majority of the White Working Class Vote...but he needed about 72% of that vote to win and he did not get it....about 2 million of them stayed home rather than vote for a politically correct, cultist who as a rich man show no sympathy nor understanding of the White Working class..but I do congratulate for understanding that. Which of course is something the Republican Party Bigwigs do not understand as they are proceeding down a similar path...aka....select another politically correct moderate to head the ticket.
Psssssssssst Republicans listen up: one definition of isanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.
So you support the Tea Party? We wanted a strong conservative to run.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
You really butchered my post but you did get one thing right..........Romney lost because of the turnout.............aka The White Working Class did not turn out for Romny....at least in the numbers he needed....he did carry a majority of the White Working Class Vote...but he needed about 72% of that vote to win and he did not get it....about 2 million of them stayed home rather than vote for a politically correct, cultist who as a rich man show no sympathy nor understanding of the White Working class..but I do congratulate for understanding that. Which of course is something the Republican Party Bigwigs do not understand as they are proceeding down a similar path...aka....select another politically correct moderate to head the ticket.
Psssssssssst Republicans listen up: one definition of isanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.
I was referring to the Tea Party and the Base in general voting. Wow. Someone get this boy a compass, a map, and a flashlight.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
He's one of those that thinks he's smarter than everyone else. In other words chronically stupid...
Folks, this is not rocket science. It does not take a genius to understand what is going on and what is needed to fix it.
The problem with the Republicans is that they listen to the talking heads on the alphabet media too much. Many of these morons(not really stupid as in low i.q.s just unable to think for themselves)actually have fallen for the liberal b.s. that in order to win the Republicans must become more like the democrats....now only idiots would think the media can tell them what they need to do to win.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:49:06 PM
Folks, this is not rocket science. It does not take a genius to understand what is going on and what is needed to fix it.
The problem with the Republicans is that they listen to the talking heads on the alphabet media too much. Many of these morons(not really stupid as in low i.q.s just unable to think for themselves)actually have fallen for the liberal b.s. that in order to win the Republicans must become more like the democrats....now only idiots would think the media can tell them what they need to do to win.
Stop with the talking points. You look stupid.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
I was referring to the Tea Party and the Base in general voting. Wow. Someone get this boy a compass, a map, and a flashlight.
A tad slow? O.K. I will get out my color crayons just for you next time.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:51:29 PM
A tad slow? O.K. I will get out my color crayons just for you next time.
They won't help you.
Now tell us what you think the Tea Party should do. Be specific. You talk a big game so I have just put on my best socks. Blow them off.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 12:50:41 PM
Stop with the talking points. You look stupid.
Get back to kissing the roosters ass...the only thing you are good for.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 12:55:04 PM
They won't help you.
Now tell us what you think the Tea Party should do. Be specific. You talk a big game so I have just put on my best socks. Blow them off.
I have already explained it....try and keep up.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
You really butchered my post but you did get one thing right..........Romney lost because of the turnout.............aka The White Working Class did not turn out for Romny....at least in the numbers he needed....he did carry a majority of the White Working Class Vote...but he needed about 72% of that vote to win and he did not get it....about 2 million of them stayed home rather than vote for a politically correct, cultist who as a rich man show no sympathy nor understanding of the White Working class..but I do congratulate for understanding that. Which of course is something the Republican Party Bigwigs do not understand as they are proceeding down a similar path...aka....select another politically correct moderate to head the ticket.
Psssssssssst Republicans listen up: one definition of isanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.
You are beginning to go in circles and not answering questions. That is not acceptable here.
Quote from: taxed on April 08, 2014, 12:45:50 PM
So you support the Tea Party? We wanted a strong conservative to run.
Yes....but you failed....and you will fail again. Now why is that?
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 08, 2014, 12:58:36 PM
You are beginning to go in circles and not answering questions. That is not acceptable here.
So....what is your question?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:58:01 PM
I have already explained it....try and keep up.
No you haven't. Just a lot of condescension generalities. So who should the GOP run in 2016?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:02:35 PM
So....what is your question?
What should the Tea Party do
specifically and who should the GOP run in 2016?
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 01:04:21 PM
What should the Tea Party do specifically and who should the GOP run in 2016?
I don't know how you missed it but here is what I have said previously regarding what the so called 'Tea Party' needs to do.
First of all they need to have a big meeting or a convention whatever they want to call it....elect a leader, agree on a platform aka...exactly what they stand for and hopefully it will be more than just a smaller government and lower taxes.
Now this will be the painful part for many on here .....as most on here appear politically correct.......they need to appeal directly to the White Working Class...make it very clear in their platform, manifesto or whatever they want to call it (their core beliefs)that they support the White Working Class....understanding that The White Working Class is the largest voting bloc in the nation and the only group with the numbers needed to elect the next President and willing to vote republican..... if they are motivated to get out and vote.
Then they need to launch a huge, huge nationwide campaign to recruit members and obtain financial support.
They should concentrate on the next Presidential Election...local politics will take care of itself.
Regarding specific candidates....the two most appealing at this time I think are Ted Cruz and Scott Walker.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
I don't know how you missed it but here is what I have said previously regarding what the so called 'Tea Party' needs to do.
First of all they need to have a big meeting or a convention whatever they want to call it....elect a leader, agree on a platform aka...exactly what they stand for and hopefully it will be more than just a smaller government and lower taxes.
Now this will be the painful part for many on here .....as most on here appear politically correct.......they need to appeal directly to the White Working Class...make it very clear in their platform, manifesto or whatever they want to call it (their core beliefs)that they support the White Working Class....understanding that The White Working Class is the largest voting bloc in the nation and the only group with the numbers needed to elect the next President and willing to vote republican..... if they are motivated to get out and vote.
Then they need to launch a huge, huge nationwide campaign to recruit members and obtain financial support.
They should concentrate on the next Presidential Election...local politics will take care of itself.
Regarding specific candidates....the two most appealing at this time I think are Ted Cruz and Scott Walker.
So the Tea Party should start a third party then?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:31:39 PM
I will not bother to try to describe what the Tea Party is....a waste of time.
What I am willing to discuss is what the Tea Party Should be.
And you think the group that keeps trying to defeat the Republican establishment candidates even in places like Delaware are too rooted in being Republican to be what you want them to be?
And what is it you want them to be exactly? You seem too rooted in trying to portray them as being the Democratic caricature of them to have figured that out exactly.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 12:49:06 PM
Folks, this is not rocket science. It does not take a genius to understand what is going on and what is needed to fix it.
The problem with the Republicans is that they listen to the talking heads on the alphabet media too much. Many of these morons(not really stupid as in low i.q.s just unable to think for themselves)actually have fallen for the liberal b.s. that in order to win the Republicans must become more like the democrats....now only idiots would think the media can tell them what they need to do to win.
While I don't consider myself a tea partier exactly, why do you think that running on the idea that government is taxing and spending too much is a bad idea exactly? That seems to me to be their strong suit.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
While I don't consider myself a tea partier exactly, why do you think that running on the idea that government is taxing and spending too much is a bad idea exactly? That seems to me to be their strong suit.
You are wasting your time. He's not here for debate. Like most trolls he's in desperate need for attention. He just wants to disrupt the forum.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 01:18:46 PM
So the Tea Party should start a third party then?
No....only if they cannot manage to get A Real Conservative as the Republican Candidate. They can still call themselves a movement or whatever....just a movement that has all the characteristics of a real party.
Unfortunately...the powers that be in the Republican Party are in cahoots with the media....a huge attempt has been underway for sometime to demonize the tea partiers....very likely they will be successful enough to be able to foist another loser candidate on the republican party aka. jeb bush, rubio or whoever.
Now many tea partiers last time reconciled themselves as in.....'well...anyone is better than obama'...whilst true it was not enough to motivate the kind of turnout needed to win.
This time if once again the East Coast Big Wigs get the candidate they want............then the Tea Partiers need to divorce themselves absolutely from the Republican Party...........become an official third party ---select a candidate and the results might suprise everyone. See my link on the chances or how a 3rd party can actually be succesful despite what the talking heads will tell you.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
I don't know how you missed it but here is what I have said previously regarding what the so called 'Tea Party' needs to do.
First of all they need to have a big meeting or a convention whatever they want to call it....elect a leader, agree on a platform aka...exactly what they stand for and hopefully it will be more than just a smaller government and lower taxes.
Now this will be the painful part for many on here .....as most on here appear politically correct.......they need to appeal directly to the White Working Class...make it very clear in their platform, manifesto or whatever they want to call it (their core beliefs)that they support the White Working Class....understanding that The White Working Class is the largest voting bloc in the nation and the only group with the numbers needed to elect the next President and willing to vote republican..... if they are motivated to get out and vote.
Then they need to launch a huge, huge nationwide campaign to recruit members and obtain financial support.
They should concentrate on the next Presidential Election...local politics will take care of itself.
Regarding specific candidates....the two most appealing at this time I think are Ted Cruz and Scott Walker.
Why exactly is leaving the Republican party a better idea than continuing to co-opt the establishment Republican agenda? It seems to be a lot more effective than trying to win as a third party.
Also, you didn't process what I pointed out to you before, the tea party members have a lot of different views, they just agree that government is taxing and spending too much. A pretty "no duh" position.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
While I don't consider myself a tea partier exactly, why do you think that running on the idea that government is taxing and spending too much is a bad idea exactly? That seems to me to be their strong suit.
That appeals mainly to the wealthy, the upper middle or people with good jobs or good incomes.
The voting bloc the Republican Party needs to win have more interests than that...what the Republicans need to win is a Candidate that combines the traits of Theodore Rossevelt with Huey P. Long.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
Why exactly is leaving the Republican party a better idea than continuing to co-opt the establishment Republican agenda? It seems to be a lot more effective than trying to win as a third party.
Also, you didn't process what I pointed out to you before, the tea party members have a lot of different views, they just agree that government is taxing and spending too much. A pretty "no duh" position.
They should only leave the Republican Party as a last resort. If the mainstream republicans are successful in getting another poliltically correct/liberal/moderate to head the ticket...then and only then should the republican party be abandoned.
I understand all too well the different views of the tea partiers....that is why I suggest they need to hold a big pow...come to an agreement on a set of principles aka a manifesto they can present to the American People...in other words an agreement on what they support...and if they want to be a winner in the next Presidential Election they best make it clear they support The White Working Class..
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:34:23 PM
No....only if they cannot manage to get A Real Conservative as the Republican Candidate. They can still call themselves a movement or whatever....just a movement that has all the characteristics of a real party.
What is wrong with you? It
is a movement. The name is a play on the actual event.
QuoteUnfortunately...the powers that be in the Republican Party are in cahoots with the media.
...
No they are not. They would like to be but they are not.
Quotea huge attempt has been underway for sometime to demonize the tea partiers....
Thank you Captain Obvious.
Quotevery likely they will be successful enough to be able to foist another loser candidate on the republican party aka. jeb bush, rubio or whoever.
That has nothing to do with the Tea Party.
QuoteNow many tea partiers last time reconciled themselves as in.....'well...anyone is better than obama'...whilst true it was not enough to motivate the kind of turnout needed to win.
Nope the The Tea Party is the indirect result of that strategy.
QuoteThis time if once again the East Coast Big Wigs get the candidate they want............then the Tea Partiers need to divorce themselves absolutely from the Republican Party...........become an official third party ---select a candidate and the results might suprise everyone. See my link on the chances or how a 3rd party can actually be succesful despite what the talking heads will tell you.
A minute ago you said the establishment
is against the Tea Party. Now you are saying
if they are. Which is it? If they are why not start a third party now? Stop contradicting yourself. And your link is crap. it will take years for a third party to become viable.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:42:21 PM
They should only leave the Republican Party as a last resort. If the mainstream republicans are successful in getting another poliltically correct/liberal/moderate to head the ticket...then and only then should the republican party be abandoned.
I understand all too well the different views of the tea partiers....that is why I suggest they need to hold a big pow...come to an agreement on a set of principles aka a manifesto they can present to the American People...in other words an agreement on what they support...and if they want to be a winner in the next Presidential Election they best make it clear they support The White Working Class..
The issue isn't policy. It's strategy.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 01:27:42 PM
And you think the group that keeps trying to defeat the Republican establishment candidates even in places like Delaware are too rooted in being Republican to be what you want them to be?
And what is it you want them to be exactly? You seem too rooted in trying to portray them as being the Democratic caricature of them to have figured that out exactly.
It is not a question of what I want them to be.....it is a question of what they must be if they want to win the next presidential election.
I want them to be a winner....and I have laid out many times already what they need to be or do in order to defeat the democrats.
In a nutshell: A true conservative of the nature of Teddy Roosevelt with some kinship to Huey P. Long....that is what it will take to get the overwhelming numbers of the White Working Class...which is a prerequisite for victory.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
The issue isn't policy. It's strategy.
I would not argue with that.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 01:44:42 PM
What is wrong with you? It is a movement. The name is a play on the actual event.
...
No they are not. They would like to be but they are not.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
That has nothing to do with the Tea Party.
Nope the The Tea Party is the indirect result of that strategy.
A minute ago you said the establishment is against the Tea Party. Now you are saying if they are. Which is it? If they are why not start a third party now? Stop contradicting yourself. And your link is crap. it will take years for a third party to become viable.
TeeMan has confirmed he is nothing but a troll. I will not get into a "tail chasing" game with him.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
I would not argue with that.
Then you debunked your own arguments.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:37:44 PM
That appeals mainly to the wealthy, the upper middle or people with good jobs or good incomes.
The voting bloc the Republican Party needs to win have more interests than that...what the Republicans need to win is a Candidate that combines the traits of Theodore Rossevelt with Huey P. Long.
So out of curiosity, are you a Democrat or an establishment Republican? You certainly have liberal stereotypes and lack of in depth understanding down to a ... Tee ...
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 01:44:42 PM
What is wrong with you? It is a movement. The name is a play on the actual event.
...
No they are not. They would like to be but they are not.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
That has nothing to do with the Tea Party.
Nope the The Tea Party is the indirect result of that strategy.
A minute ago you said the establishment is against the Tea Party. Now you are saying if they are. Which is it? If they are why not start a third party now? Stop contradicting yourself. And your link is crap. it will take years for a third party to become viable.
You are stuck on being argumentative and thus cannot see the forrest for the trees.
I am not here to win debating points ...merely attempting to try and help clarify a lot of muddled minds.
What we need is clear thinking....tooooo many are toooo impressed with their own agendas to understand the big picture.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:42:21 PM
They should only leave the Republican Party as a last resort. If the mainstream republicans are successful in getting another poliltically correct/liberal/moderate to head the ticket...then and only then should the republican party be abandoned.
I understand all too well the different views of the tea partiers....that is why I suggest they need to hold a big pow...come to an agreement on a set of principles aka a manifesto they can present to the American People...in other words an agreement on what they support...and if they want to be a winner in the next Presidential Election they best make it clear they support The White Working Class..
I think they should continue to focus on the simple and dead on accurate point that our government is taxing and spending too much money and not go off on all the tangents you want them to waste their time on. They have the biggest issue we face as a country down pat, we are taxing and spending too much. That's what they need to continue to focus on.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 01:52:47 PM
So out of curiosity, are you a Democrat or an establishment Republican? You certainly have liberal stereotypes and lack of in depth understanding down to a ... Tee ...
I have no idea what you are talking about. I will just say this for the record....I am not a democrat nor a establishment republican....I am a True Conservative.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:53:36 PMI am not here to win debating points ...
Well, that's a good thing because if you were here for that, then you'd have wasted your time here.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 01:55:22 PM
I think they should continue to focus on the simple and dead on accurate point that our government is taxing and spending too much money and not go off on all the tangents you want them to waste their time on. They have the biggest issue we face as a country down pat, we are taxing and spending too much. That's what they need to continue to focus on.
You do not understand why they lost last time and why they will lose again if another similar type candidate is foisted on the Republican Party.
You are wasting my time unless you can come to understand two things....why they lost last time....and what they need to do to win this time.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:55:45 PM
I have no idea what you are talking about. I will just say this for the record....I am not a democrat nor a establishment republican....I am a True Conservative.
You're a "true conservative" who thinks the tea party should stop focusing on taxes and spending because only rich people care about that. LOL. Thanks for clearing that up, I get it now...
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:53:36 PM
You are stuck on being argumentative and thus cannot see the forrest for the trees.
I am not here to win debating points ...merely attempting to try and help clarify a lot of muddled minds.
What we need is clear thinking....tooooo many are toooo impressed with their own agendas to understand the big picture.
Then go away, educate yourself then come back. You have less political knowledge than bowl of pudding. You do not know what the Tea Party is, what it stands for, what it's priorities are or what has accomplished. Not to mention you continue to contradict yourself.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:55:45 PM
I have no idea what you are talking about. I will just say this for the record....I am not a democrat nor a establishment republican....I am a True Conservative.
That doesn't understand conservatism.
Awesome...
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 01:58:12 PM
You do not understand why they lost last time and why they will lose again if another similar type candidate is foisted on the Republican Party.
You are wasting my time unless you can come to understand two things....why they lost last time....and what they need to do to win this time.
Thanks for making me aware of that, I'd certainly hate to waste your time.
Republicans lost last time because they are trying to win as the Democrat lite party. The problem with that is that socialists don't want the lite version, they want the full calories and fat of actual socialism. And non-socialists don't want socialist or socialist lite, we want non-socialist. So Republicans have no true constituency who give a rip about them.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 01:58:13 PM
You're a "true conservative" who thinks the tea party should stop focusing on taxes and spending because only rich people care about that. LOL. Thanks for clearing that up, I get it now...
Those who are hung up on the mantra of "Smaller Government and lower taxes" are primarily an elitist group....and cannot see that much more than that needs to be done to put America back on track.
Keep running with that slogan and see where it gets you.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Those who are hung up on the mantra of "Smaller Government and lower taxes" are primarily an elitist group....and cannot see that much more than that needs to be done to put America back on track.
Keep running with that slogan and see where it gets you.
So more taxes and more government is better.
Brilliant.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:00:47 PM
Thanks for making me aware of that, I'd certainly hate to waste your time.
Republicans lost last time because they are trying to win as the Democrat lite party. The problem with that is that socialists don't want the lite version, they want the full calories and fat of actual socialism. And non-socialists don't want socialist or socialist lite, we want non-socialist. So Republicans have no true constituency who give a rip about them.
My what a defeatist you are.....you have essentially given up and probably have no interest...or I suppose more accurately...you have no faith in anyone who tries to explain to you how the Republicans could be victorious next time.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 02:02:29 PM
So more taxes and more government is better.
Brilliant.
You are guilty of simplistic thinking.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Those who are hung up on the mantra of "Smaller Government and lower taxes" are primarily an elitist group....and cannot see that much more than that needs to be done to put America back on track.
Keep running with that slogan and see where it gets you.
He swings, whiff! Missed the point again.
My point was that you're not a conservative. It's ironic in showing me wrong that proved me right. You're a hoot, my friend, keep up the good work.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:03:17 PM
My what a defeatist you are.....you have essentially given up and probably have no interest...or I suppose more accurately...you have no faith in anyone who tries to explain to you how the Republicans could be victorious next time.
No Republican has explained it to him.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:03:17 PM
My what a defeatist you are.....you have essentially given up and probably have no interest...or I suppose more accurately...you have no faith in anyone who tries to explain to you how the Republicans could be victorious next time.
That would be a good argument if I were a Republican...
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:04:29 PM
He swings, whiff! Missed the point again.
My point was that you're not a conservative. It's ironic in showing me wrong that proved me right. You're a hoot, my friend, keep up the good work.
I posted a very long post on what the nature of a true conservative is....tooo bad you missed it.
But all this drivel of trying to label someone this or that is mis-direction anyhow. What the Republicans need to concentrate on is how they can win next time...and cease trying to demonize anyone they feel does not fit their personal agenda.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 02:02:29 PM
So more taxes and more government is better.
Brilliant.
It's a new dance called the government spending wave! C'mon, all the conservatives are doing it. Well, except the rich, they're the only ones who still want small government.
Hmm...but don't the rich control government? So wouldn't they want big government so they have more power?
You're going to have to help me with this one TeeMan. It's the corporations, isn't it? Workers of the world unite!
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:07:13 PM
I posted a very long post on what the nature of a true conservative is....tooo bad you missed it.
But all this drivel of trying to label someone this or that is mis-direction anyhow. What the Republicans need to concentrate on is how they can win next time...and cease trying to demonize anyone they feel does not fit their personal agenda.
Yet you have been demonizing the Tea Party and this forum from day one.
You lose.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:07:13 PM
I posted a very long post on what the nature of a true conservative is....tooo bad you missed it.
But all this drivel of trying to label someone this or that is mis-direction anyhow. What the Republicans need to concentrate on is how they can win next time...and cease trying to demonize anyone they feel does not fit their personal agenda.
Your post that only rich people think government taxes and spends too much, stands on it's own to show you are not one.
I'll take your view that I should read all your posts before responding to any of them under advisement. To be honest, I'm thinking the lack of specificity in showing me this post means even you know you're not going to hold up very well under scrutiny, but that's for you to decide.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:09:14 PM
It's a new dance called the government spending wave! C'mon, all the conservatives are doing it. Well, except the rich, they're the only ones who still want small government.
Hmm...but don't the rich control government? So wouldn't they want big government so they have more power?
You're going to have to help me with this one TeeMan. It's the corporations, isn't it? Workers of the world unite!
The forces of political correctness control the government......aka the men in grey suits aka the civil servanta aka liberals.
Now true many liberals are rich
but Rich People fall into different categories....some are liberal democrats....some are politically correct republicans...a few are even conservatives. No matter their position their numbers are few and they cannot elect anyone of and by themselves.
The Real Power of Rich People is with the media as in they control the media at least the mainstream media the so called alphabet media.....which by and large controls the way people think about politics and political candidates....thus by demonizing candidates they can pretty much control the electoral process.
Irregardless....I do not think you are really searching for any truth...just looking for an argument because you really do not believe the forces of good can triumph over the forces of evil.
If Kaz continues to bitch slap Teebag there might be a restraining order in his foreseeable future...
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Your post that only rich people think government taxes and spends too much, stands on it's own to show you are not one.
I'll take your view that I should read all your posts before responding to any of them under advisement. To be honest, I'm thinking the lack of specificity in showing me this post means even you know you're not going to hold up very well under scrutiny, but that's for you to decide.
Oh I will provide you the link................http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful)
In case the link fails....just google the third party blueprint.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 02:13:42 PM
Yet you have been demonizing the Tea Party and this forum from day one.
You lose.
Ridiculous
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:05:36 PM
That would be a good argument if I were a Republican...
Interesting....I didnt think they allowed any democrats in here?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:19:33 PM
Irregardless....I do not think you are really searching for any truth...just looking for an argument because you really do not believe the forces of good can triumph over the forces of evil.
First, "irregardless" isn't a word. The word you are looking for is, "regardless."
Second, it's not "rich people" who think the government is taxing and spending too much. It's anyone who is not a criminal who advocates the forced confiscation and redistribution of money from people who earned it to people who didn't. You are supporting the forces of evil.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:22:44 PM
Oh I will provide you the link................http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful)
In case the link fails....just google the third party blueprint.
Your link is an opinion piece that focuses on George Wallace. Really? That is the best you have?
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 02:20:46 PM
If Kaz continues to bitch slap Teebag there might be a restraining order in his foreseeable future...
Thanks, he's a hoot.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:27:52 PM
Interesting....I didnt think they allowed any democrats in here?
Well you're here.
It's also very telling how much time you spend criticizing this forum...
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:25:26 PM
Ridiculous
Yes you are. And everyone knows it and mocks you.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:22:44 PM
Oh I will provide you the link................http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful)
In case the link fails....just google the third party blueprint.
Your "I posted a very long post on what the nature of a true conservative is....tooo bad you missed it" is a link to a website on a blueprint for third parties? LOL, thanks for clearing that up for me.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:27:52 PM
Interesting....I didnt think they allowed any democrats in here?
They do allow Democrats, but Democrats have to back up what they say so they don't last long. What does that have to do with what I said?
Liberals crack me up, the world is "republican" and "democrat" to you. If I'm not one, I'm the other. It's all you can grasp. Actually I'm a libertarian. That means I'm fiscally conservative like Republicans, except I mean it. I'm socially liberal like Democrats, except I mean it. And I think our military should only be used to defend the United States. Which isn't like either one.
I'm good if you want to continue to boil it down to that I'm not Republican, so I'm a Democrat. I'd hate to keep you up all night trying to solve a paradox. Not Republican, and not Democrat? At the same time? What?
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:41:07 PM
Your "I posted a very long post on what the nature of a true conservative is....tooo bad you missed it" is a link to a website on a blueprint for third parties? LOL, thanks for clearing that up for me.
I looked for it but couldn't find it....maybe the rooster deleted it.
Anyhow...figured you missed that one too.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:44:51 PM
They do allow Democrats, but Democrats have to back up what they say so they don't last long. What does that have to do with what I said?
Liberals crack me up, the world is "republican" and "democrat" to you. If I'm not one, I'm the other. It's all you can grasp. Actually I'm a libertarian. That means I'm fiscally conservative like Republicans, except I mean it. I'm socially liberal like Democrats, except I mean it. And I think our military should only be used to defend the United States. Which isn't like either one.
I'm good if you want to continue to boil it down to that I'm not Republican, so I'm a Democrat. I'd hate to keep you up all night trying to solve a paradox. Not Republican, and not Democrat? At the same time? What?
I think I have heard of libertarians but never talked to one....irregardless they play no important role.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:44:51 PM
They do allow Democrats, but Democrats have to back up what they say so they don't last long. What does that have to do with what I said?
Liberals crack me up, the world is "republican" and "democrat" to you. If I'm not one, I'm the other. It's all you can grasp. Actually I'm a libertarian. That means I'm fiscally conservative like Republicans, except I mean it. I'm socially liberal like Democrats, except I mean it. And I think our military should only be used to defend the United States. Which isn't like either one.
I'm good if you want to continue to boil it down to that I'm not Republican, so I'm a Democrat. I'd hate to keep you up all night trying to solve a paradox. Not Republican, and not Democrat? At the same time? What?
Like it or not we have a 2 party system....that could change next time but not likely.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 02:35:53 PM
Well you're here.
It's also very telling how much time you spend criticizing this forum...
I have responded to their personal attacks...some like to dish it out but can't take it.
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Your post that only rich people think government taxes and spends too much, stands on it's own to show you are not one.
I'll take your view that I should read all your posts before responding to any of them under advisement. To be honest, I'm thinking the lack of specificity in showing me this post means even you know you're not going to hold up very well under scrutiny, but that's for you to decide.
You mischaracterize what I said...if you want to quote me...then quote me...don't post a personal characterization and claim it is what I said.
What I basically said was that only the Rich are pre-occupied by that...aka hung up on it...and that the slogan of 'lower taxes and smaller government' is not something that will enable a winning strategy....simply re-inforces the idea that the Republicans are the party of the rich....you will not garner many votes by proclaiming that.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 03:32:37 PMYou mischaracterize what I said...if you want to quote me...then quote me...don't post a personal characterization and claim it is what I said
Note I didn't put quote marks, that means it was a paraphrase. Fair enough, let's go to the video tape.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:01:01 PMThose who are hung up on the mantra of "Smaller Government and lower taxes" are primarily an elitist group....and cannot see that much more than that needs to be done to put America back on track.
Hmmm...seems I paraphrased pretty well...
Quote from: Kaz on April 08, 2014, 02:34:37 PM
First, "irregardless" isn't a word. The word you are looking for is, "regardless."
Second, it's not "rich people" who think the government is taxing and spending too much. It's anyone who is not a criminal who advocates the forced confiscation and redistribution of money from people who earned it to people who didn't. You are supporting the forces of evil.
Now you must be trying to convince me you are a dumbass--first of all.....'Irregardless'........is a woid.
Not only is "irregardless" a word, but it's probably the best word of all time. Here's why.
"Irregardless" is a word. It is, at least according to Merriam-Webster and Scrabble.
But I'm not going to stop there. No. I would also like to contend that "irregardless" is the baddest-ass word of all time. This is for several reasons, which I will now explain.
1.It's the only word where attaching the "ir-" prefix to the root word has the exact same meaning as the root word: Throwing an "ir-" in front of normal, less bad-ass words that begin with "R" changes the meaning to the opposite of the word. Irrefutable. Irreverent. Irrelevant. Irresponsible. Not "irregardless." It doesn't care what the rules of grammar are. It means exactly the same thing as "regardless," and that's the way it likes it.
2.Against all odds, against all logic, and (ir)regardless of everyone hating it, it has achieved official word status: How can you not pull for the underdog in this case? "Irregardless" went up against the rules of grammar, stick-by-the-book lexicographers, and the fact that it's a completely redundant word. Didn't matter. Whatever didn't kill it made it stronger. It's the hardest-working word in the dictionary, and it should have earned your respect by now.
3.Even though it's a word, Merriam-Webster says you shouldn't use it: Can you name another word in the dictionary that the dictionary says you shouldn't use? Even really bad swear words don't have a dictionary-imposed boycott. That just makes me want to use it more.
4.It simultaneously makes sense and doesn't make sense: You can think of the word in one of two ways: (1) it should mean the opposite of "regardless," or something along the lines of "keeping the facts in regard," or (2) it could mean "regardless of the fact that something is regardless." The latter of the two is like double-super regardless, and it's the meaning I prefer. "Irregardless" really, really doesn't care what the facts are or what you think. It should only be used in extreme circumstances, such as when a course of action is ridiculously counterintuitive. "Irregardless of the fact that you are very thirsty, you should eat this pile of salt." Stuff like that.
5.It practices what it preaches: Irregardless of the rules of grammar, "irregardless" is a word. It's self-reflexive. It's the exception that proves the rule. It talks the talk and walks the walk. Is there another word like that? No, because "irregardless" is bad-ass. It is a text-based Chuck Norris, roundhouse-kicking everything else in the dictionary into submission....TimMonihyan
Now in regards...to and I quote "it's not "rich people" who think the government is taxing and spending too much. It's anyone who is not a criminal who advocates the forced confiscation and redistribution of money from people who earned it to people who didn't. You are supporting the forces of evil."
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Nevertheless.....for the government to function someone must pay taxes....and guess what who has the best ability to pay taxes?
Jesus said: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Ceasar's" ....but of course no one likes to have to pay taxes...and no earthly government is perfect nor will they ever be.
It is not the taxing and spending that is so bad in America.....it is what and who they are spending it on.
I agree that it is unfair...taxing one class more than others....but life is not fair and nothing anyone ever does will make it fair.
In a nutshell....most voters...aka the overwhelming numbers of voters are not rich thus...to try and win an election with the slogan of "smaller government and lower taxes is not a winning formula" and that seems to be a point too many...maybe the majority of tea partiers cannot get beyond."
Now of course they have every right to want that, to pursue it and lobby for it but to fail to understand they will never win a Presidential election with that slogan is pathetic.
Now basically I am talking to republicans....as a libertarian you are irrlevant in regards to being a factor in the next election.
However, any one who has any hopes whatever for a fair tax system should definitely stay away from the democratic party.
In other words, in the world of politics one must learn the art of compromise. What it comes down to is the reality that any party that champions the minorities and the poor will be motivated to distrubute more tax money to those groups and take more from your group. So anyone who wants to keep more of their money should advocate for the most conservative party possible.
Now what the elitist republicans fail to comprehend is that there are many factions in the republican party but the largest faction and the one that has the key to a republican victory is the White Working Class.
In order to win that crucial vote they must learn who they are and what they want.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 02:34:53 PM
Your link is an opinion piece that focuses on George Wallace. Really? That is the best you have?
I knew that piece would be over your head...no suprise at all.
Again...you should stick to sucking up to the mods.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 03:25:53 PM
Like it or not we have a 2 party system....that could change next time but not likely.
Once again you contradict yourself. Remember the article about Wallace? :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 04:21:08 PM
Once again you contradict yourself. Remember the article about Wallace? :rolleyes:
Missed that part about it could change next time eh?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 03:27:24 PM
I have responded to their personal attacks...some like to dish it out but can't take it.
Stop whining and read a book. Your ignorance is showing.
By all means NO. That said, the establishment of the GOP should recognize, that despite being fundamentally right on the issues, they are losing the war of words with the left. The Tea Party movement, although we are a bit more abrasive, a bit less patient, can help move the dial and wake up some of the sheep with our more bombastic style.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 02:27:52 PM
Interesting....I didnt think they allowed any democrats in here?
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Your on and I have not moved you to The Pit yet.
Quote from: dignitasnews on April 08, 2014, 04:44:47 PM
By all means NO. That said, the establishment of the GOP should recognize, that despite being fundamentally right on the issues, they are losing the war of words with the left. The Tea Party movement, although we are a bit more abrasive, a bit less patient, can help move the dial and wake up some of the sheep with our more bombastic style.
What have the establishment been right on?
Quote from: walkstall on April 08, 2014, 04:50:27 PM
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Your on and I have not moved you to The Pit yet.
Thats only because I keep flattering you. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 05:39:53 PM
Thats only because I keep flattering you. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
:lol: :lol: :lol: You haven't even laid a glove on me Shill!
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 04:06:01 PM
Now you must be trying to convince me you are a dumbass--first of all.....'Irregardless'........is a woid.
Not only is "irregardless" a word, but it's probably the best word of all time. Here's why.
"Irregardless" is a word. It is, at least according to Merriam-Webster and Scrabble.
But I'm not going to stop there. No. I would also like to contend that "irregardless" is the baddest-ass word of all time. This is for several reasons, which I will now explain.
1.It's the only word where attaching the "ir-" prefix to the root word has the exact same meaning as the root word: Throwing an "ir-" in front of normal, less bad-ass words that begin with "R" changes the meaning to the opposite of the word. Irrefutable. Irreverent. Irrelevant. Irresponsible. Not "irregardless." It doesn't care what the rules of grammar are. It means exactly the same thing as "regardless," and that's the way it likes it.
2.Against all odds, against all logic, and (ir)regardless of everyone hating it, it has achieved official word status: How can you not pull for the underdog in this case? "Irregardless" went up against the rules of grammar, stick-by-the-book lexicographers, and the fact that it's a completely redundant word. Didn't matter. Whatever didn't kill it made it stronger. It's the hardest-working word in the dictionary, and it should have earned your respect by now.
3.Even though it's a word, Merriam-Webster says you shouldn't use it: Can you name another word in the dictionary that the dictionary says you shouldn't use? Even really bad swear words don't have a dictionary-imposed boycott. That just makes me want to use it more.
4.It simultaneously makes sense and doesn't make sense: You can think of the word in one of two ways: (1) it should mean the opposite of "regardless," or something along the lines of "keeping the facts in regard," or (2) it could mean "regardless of the fact that something is regardless." The latter of the two is like double-super regardless, and it's the meaning I prefer. "Irregardless" really, really doesn't care what the facts are or what you think. It should only be used in extreme circumstances, such as when a course of action is ridiculously counterintuitive. "Irregardless of the fact that you are very thirsty, you should eat this pile of salt." Stuff like that.
5.It practices what it preaches: Irregardless of the rules of grammar, "irregardless" is a word. It's self-reflexive. It's the exception that proves the rule. It talks the talk and walks the walk. Is there another word like that? No, because "irregardless" is bad-ass. It is a text-based Chuck Norris, roundhouse-kicking everything else in the dictionary into submission....TimMonihyan
Now in regards...to and I quote "it's not "rich people" who think the government is taxing and spending too much. It's anyone who is not a criminal who advocates the forced confiscation and redistribution of money from people who earned it to people who didn't. You are supporting the forces of evil."
Nevertheless.....for the government to function someone must pay taxes....and guess what who has the best ability to pay taxes?
Jesus said: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Ceasar's" ....but of course no one likes to have to pay taxes...and no earthly government is perfect nor will they ever be.
It is not the taxing and spending that is so bad in America.....it is what and who they are spending it on.
I agree that it is unfair...taxing one class more than others....but life is not fair and nothing anyone ever does will make it fair.
In a nutshell....most voters...aka the overwhelming numbers of voters are not rich thus...to try and win an election with the slogan of "smaller government and lower taxes is not a winning formula" and that seems to be a point too many...maybe the majority of tea partiers cannot get beyond."
Now of course they have every right to want that, to pursue it and lobby for it but to fail to understand they will never win a Presidential election with that slogan is pathetic.
Now basically I am talking to republicans....as a libertarian you are irrlevant in regards to being a factor in the next election.
However, any one who has any hopes whatever for a fair tax system should definitely stay away from the democratic party.
In other words, in the world of politics one must learn the art of compromise. What it comes down to is the reality that any party that champions the minorities and the poor will be motivated to distrubute more tax money to those groups and take more from your group. So anyone who wants to keep more of their money should advocate for the most conservative party possible.
Now what the elitist republicans fail to comprehend is that there are many factions in the republican party but the largest faction and the one that has the key to a republican victory is the White Working Class.
In order to win that crucial vote they must learn who they are and what they want.
If you're going to quote other peoples bull shit, then post a link.
But REGARDLESS, you're still an idiot! using a double negative is the epitome of illiterate.
What you are saying when you say "irregardless" is "without without regard".
Now stop wasting our time and grow up!
Quote from: Solar on April 08, 2014, 05:59:05 PM
If you're going to quote other peoples bull shit, then post a link.
But REGARDLESS, you're still an idiot! using a double negative is the epitome of illiterate.
What you are saying when you say "irregardless" is "without without regard".
Now stop wasting our time and grow up!
Everyone sing it with me!
Bang, bang, Solar's silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang, bang, Solar's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 08:02:22 PM
Everyone sing it with me!
Bang, bang, Solar's silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang, bang, Solar's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead
You know I can tolerate ignorance, because ignorance is curable, stupidity on the other hand, is forever.
He appears to be at that impetuous age of early 20s. He needs to slow down and listen.
Quote from: Solar on April 08, 2014, 08:19:32 PM
You know I can tolerate ignorance, because ignorance is curable, stupidity on the other hand, is forever.
He appears to be at that impetuous age of early 20s. He needs to slow down and listen.
It would be easier to just drop a 8500 pound version of the constitution on him. Then plant some daisies around him.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 04:06:01 PM
Now in regards...to and I quote "it's not "rich people" who think the government is taxing and spending too much. It's anyone who is not a criminal who advocates the forced confiscation and redistribution of money from people who earned it to people who didn't. You are supporting the forces of evil."
Nevertheless.....for the government to function someone must pay taxes....and guess what who has the best ability to pay taxes?
Jesus said: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Ceasar's" ....but of course no one likes to have to pay taxes...and no earthly government is perfect nor will they ever be.
Irregardless is only a word in the sense that "aint" is a word. I hope you don't use it at work, taxpayers don't need another welfare recipient on our backs.
As for the quote, LOL. Your content lite posts are amusing. I didn't say "taxes" are stealing, I said confiscation and redistribution is. That's welfare man!
Also, I love how the left try to use Jesus to justify socialism. Jesus did not say ever anywhere that charity is the job of government to do with forcibly confiscated money. You can look it up. He said it is for ... you ... to do it ... voluntarily ... with your own money.
Whenever it seems like liberals look as clueless as you can possibly look, you double down and start quoting Jesus. You're a gas, man, keep up the good work! LOL. That's funny.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 08, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
Yes you are. And everyone knows it and mocks you.
He'd better have some sharp crayons to fight back. Some of us internet bullies leave welts on youngsters like this.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 03:27:24 PM
I have responded to their personal attacks...some like to dish it out but can't take it.
You were saying, Cupcake?
Quote from: TeeMan on April 08, 2014, 03:27:24 PM
I have responded to their personal attacks...some like to dish it out but can't take it.
I said I like your youtube cartoons. I sit and watch them with my grandkids also.
Quote from: quiller on April 09, 2014, 10:26:50 AM
He'd better have some sharp crayons to fight back. Some of us internet bullies leave welts on youngsters like this.
Talk is cheap! chump....put up or shut up.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 09, 2014, 12:14:46 PM
Talk is cheap! chump....put up or shut up.
Let me guess. You're in your early 20s, right?
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2014, 12:47:46 PM
Let me guess. You're in your early 20s, right?
We have been looking at Cartoon together.
Quote from: Kaz on April 09, 2014, 05:45:14 AM
Irregardless is only a word in the sense that "aint" is a word. I hope you don't use it at work, taxpayers don't need another welfare recipient on our backs.
As for the quote, LOL. Your content lite posts are amusing. I didn't say "taxes" are stealing, I said confiscation and redistribution is. That's welfare man!
Also, I love how the left try to use Jesus to justify socialism. Jesus did not say ever anywhere that charity is the job of government to do with forcibly confiscated money. You can look it up. He said it is for ... you ... to do it ... voluntarily ... with your own money.
Whenever it seems like liberals look as clueless as you can possibly look, you double down and start quoting Jesus. You're a gas, man, keep up the good work! LOL. That's funny.
Your posts are so discombotulated(is that a woid? if not tell it to the marines)....as in I don't know if you just want to coinfuse the issue or you really are that coinfused.
Anyone who can read my writings even just the ones that have not been deleted and still claim I am a socialist is either serious retarded or a propagandist aka putting out red herrings to try and protect this board from the truth.
Anyhow, just for the record I quoted Jesus not to justify socialism but to show the legitimatcy of government and their right to tax.
I do agree with you on charity....and again that was in my post on what a true conservative is....ask solar why it was deleted.
This will be my last day on here....in fact this may be my last post...solar is set to pull the switch but even if he doesn't I am leaving....i prefer a bigger pond...i post on another board where i get over a thousand hits in one day.
So if you have anything else to say...best make it quick.
Quote from: walkstall on April 09, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
I said I like your youtube cartoons. I sit and watch them with my grandkids also.
Life is not a cartoon pal....life is a beach...heh heh Which is where I am headed right now. byeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Quote from: TeeMan on April 09, 2014, 01:22:05 PM
Life is not a cartoon pal....life is a beach...heh heh Which is where I am headed right now. byeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!
Quote from: TeeMan on April 09, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
Your posts are so discombotulated(is that a woid? if not tell it to the marines)....as in I don't know if you just want to coinfuse the issue or you really are that coinfused.
Anyone who can read my writings even just the ones that have not been deleted and still claim I am a socialist is either serious retarded or a propagandist aka putting out red herrings to try and protect this board from the truth.
Anyhow, just for the record I quoted Jesus not to justify socialism but to show the legitimatcy of government and their right to tax.
I do agree with you on charity....and again that was in my post on what a true conservative is....ask solar why it was deleted.
This will be my last day on here....in fact this may be my last post...solar is set to pull the switch but even if he doesn't I am leaving....i prefer a bigger pond...i post on another board where i get over a thousand hits in one day.
So if you have anything else to say...best make it quick.
Shill it has not been deleted only moved. But nice try again.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 09, 2014, 01:22:05 PM
Life is not a cartoon pal....life is a beach...heh heh Which is where I am headed right now. byeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Hmmmm....ya sound like that sponge who got his 15 minutes a few months back braggin about surfin and playin music livin off the Government dole.... just your basic lefty puke. Adios :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
Quote from: TeeMan on April 09, 2014, 01:22:05 PM
Life is not a cartoon pal....life is a beach...heh heh Which is where I am headed right now. byeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Your looking more and more like a cartoon, Shill.
:lol: I can remember when my 9 year old grandson posted like you (heh heh, byeeeeeeeeeeeeee) but then he did grow out it by 10.
Quote from: TeeMan on April 09, 2014, 12:14:46 PM
Talk is cheap! chump....put up or shut up.
What are you, ten?
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