Should The Tea Party Split From The Republicans and form their own party?

[walkstall]

Wow your insults are lame. Maybe when you grow up you might get better.

His mom did promised him a Etch A Sketch.   

[Cryptic Bert]

His mom did promised him a Etch A Sketch.

Bad move. He'll hurt himself...

[walkstall]

Bad move. He'll hurt himself...

It's ok  for he is on his mom obamacare.  Well until b o changes it again.   You see the young people over 26 are not falling in line, b o may have to make some more changes yet.   

[supsalemgr]

Tea Partiers are living in a fantasy world....they seem not to understand that war has been declared upon them by the establishment.....you see it demonstrated all too clearly on this board...a group isolates themselves(they either ban or bury on the back pages anyone who tries to enlighten them) slap each other on the back and pretend they will win next time....essentially unwilling to do what they need to do aka....have a convention, elect a leader, put out a platform and begin a massive grass roots organizing campaign....and essentially tell the Republican party they will not accept another establishment/politically correct candidate.

The problem being with the above I suppose is that Tea Partiers are so confused and disorganized they cannot agree to do that.

Most of them (at least the ones on here)appear not to understand even why romney lost...and definitely have no clue as to what is needed next time to defeat the democrats.

I am suprised I have not been banned already....I suppose they had rather go the underhanded route and move me to the back pages...heh heh

  Like they think they are fooling anyone into believing they do not engage in censorship....the word is out on this board...either kowtow to those who run it or get banned ....so go ahead boys....ban me now....save youselves from the truth and more embarassment...cuz I gurantee you assholes I do not pull my punches and kowtow to no one.  Got Dat?  Deal wid it chumps.

Your post reflects the concern with the effectiveness of the TEA. It is not a party, it is a grass roots movement. Just its nature is foreign to both pub and dem establishment types. The TEA has evolved to where they are now concentrating on local races and have been most effective. Just look at IN, NC, OH, WI and the list goes on. On the national level it has impacted the House and very likely will impact the Senate in 2014. We welcome your attempt to disregard the TEA. Please share your feelings with all you friends.

[TeeMan]

Your post reflects the concern with the effectiveness of the TEA. It is not a party, it is a grass roots movement. Just its nature is foreign to both pub and dem establishment types. The TEA has evolved to where they are now concentrating on local races and have been most effective. Just look at IN, NC, OH, WI and the list goes on. On the national level it has impacted the House and very likely will impact the Senate in 2014. We welcome your attempt to disregard the TEA. Please share your feelings with all you friends.

Whilst the above poster is no doubt a good person and thinks the Tea Party is on the right track, it is my duty to tell the truth as I see it and the fact of the matter is:   that it is unpleasant and even painful to many as the truth often is---unfortunately, the above poster demonstrates the mindset of those who will allow another democrat to win the presidency. 

I warned them when they supported Romney, I told them he was a loser, I told them they(republican party)needed to address the problems and cocerns of the biggest voting  bloc in this nation(The White Working Class)they ignored me and others who attempted to enlighten them.  They ignored us and were shocked when our predictions came true.

Now if the Tea Party is more concerned with remaining a moderate force concerned more  with local politics than the future of this nation then there is not much anyone can do for them......until and unless they broaden their horizons.

I and others have tried to explain to them they are limiting unessacarily the great opportunity they have to be a real power broker, squandering the opportunity to redeem America, failing to understand they do have the ability to change the course of America and insure that a Real Conservative occupies the White House next time.

There is none so blind as he who refuses to see.

[Solar]

A lot has happened since 2010....most important of all the miserable failure of the Tea Partiers to stop the republican mainstsream from going with Romney.  That speaks volumes and I see nothing to convince me it will not happen again...

The bottom line is simply this--the Big Wig East Coast Politically Correct Republicans had rather see the White House won again by the democrats than to see a True Conservative get in there. 

Do not forget what happened in Virgina:     https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/92490-gop-gives-virginia-democrats-instead-giving-tea-party-social-conservatives-win/&sa=U&ei=XQxDU_KPMtfLsQTIpIHIBg&ved=0CAYQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHhlhz9E9n8z6fA-6-

Again, the TEA was in it's infancy. What is it with you only wanting to see the dire, while the positive outweighs anything that can come close to anything in history?
Controlling both Houses is the goal, and taking the Speakership from the RINO/socialists, so it really doesn't matter who is POTUS, they will have to deal with a Conservative House.

[supsalemgr]

Whilst the above poster is no doubt a good person and thinks the Tea Party is on the right track, it is my duty to tell the truth as I see it and the fact of the matter is:   that it is unpleasant and even painful to many as the truth often is---unfortunately, the above poster demonstrates the mindset of those who will allow another democrat to win the presidency.

Your arrogance is noted. 

I warned them when they supported Romney, I told them he was a loser, I told them they(republican party)needed to address the problems and cocerns of the biggest voting  bloc in this nation(The White Working Class)they ignored me and others who attempted to enlighten them.  They ignored us and were shocked when our predictions came true.

Thanks for confirming my point. Romney is a fine man, but not a true conservative. We disagree that the "White working class" is not willing to support a conservative.

Now if the Tea Party is more concerned with remaining a moderate force concerned more  with local politics than the future of this nation then there is not much anyone can do for them......until and unless they broaden their horizons.

Your assumption is wrong that the TEA is concerned with only local politics. However, that is how to build a solid base. It is a process, not a one time effort. Your dodge of the success of TEA candidates in local and stated races is noted.

I and others have tried to explain to them they are limiting unessacarily the great opportunity they have to be a real power broker, squandering the opportunity to redeem America, failing to understand they do have the ability to change the course of America and insure that a Real Conservative occupies the White House next time.

Now just what should the TEA do to accomplish what you say?

There is none so blind as he who refuses to see.

At least Tee is consistent as his arroagance is showing again.

[TeeMan]

At least you posted something worth looking at, keep up the good work, I think your starting to grow on me.         

Oh look the loudmouthed shnook opened his piehole--its cartoon time folks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L8TQZBHszI4#t=8

[Cryptic Bert]

Whilst the above poster is no doubt a good person and thinks the Tea Party is on the right track, it is my duty to tell the truth as I see it and the fact of the matter is:   that it is unpleasant and even painful to many as the truth often is---unfortunately, the above poster demonstrates the mindset of those who will allow another democrat to win the presidency. 

I warned them when they supported Romney, I told them he was a loser, I told them they(republican party)needed to address the problems and cocerns of the biggest voting  bloc in this nation(The White Working Class)they ignored me and others who attempted to enlighten them.  They ignored us and were shocked when our predictions came true.

Now if the Tea Party is more concerned with remaining a moderate force concerned more  with local politics than the future of this nation then there is not much anyone can do for them......until and unless they broaden their horizons.

I and others have tried to explain to them they are limiting unessacarily the great opportunity they have to be a real power broker, squandering the opportunity to redeem America, failing to understand they do have the ability to change the course of America and insure that a Real Conservative occupies the White House next time.

There is none so blind as he who refuses to see.

They didn't support Romney. That sentence of yours alone proves you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Cryptic Bert]

Whilst the above poster is no doubt a good person and thinks the Tea Party is on the right track, it is my duty to tell the truth as I see it and the fact of the matter is:   that it is unpleasant and even painful to many as the truth often is---unfortunately, the above poster demonstrates the mindset of those who will allow another democrat to win the presidency. 

All that condescension and yet you failed to explain why.

I warned them when they supported Romney,

The Tea Party as a whole did not support Romney

I told them he was a loser, I told them they(republican party)needed to address the problems and cocerns of the biggest voting  bloc in this nation(The White Working Class)they ignored me and others who attempted to enlighten them.  They ignored us and were shocked when our predictions came true.

Bollocks. Romney's economic polices would directly impacted the middle class and the poor positively. Turnout was why he lost.

Now if the Tea Party is more concerned with remaining a moderate force concerned more  with local politics than the future of this nation then there is not much anyone can do for them......until and unless they broaden their horizons.

They have a caucus in the House, helped elect over 700 Republicans nationwide and have some very good candidates for 2014. You fail again. The Tea Party has been deeply involved in local and state politics because we need a good solid Conservative foundation. Without that a Conservative President will be much less influential.

I and others have tried to explain to them they are limiting unessacarily the great opportunity they have to be a real power broker, squandering the opportunity to redeem America, failing to understand they do have the ability to change the course of America and insure that a Real Conservative occupies the White House next time.

They stopped Obama's legislative agenda in it's tracks, took control of the house so I'd say they are doing just fine.

There is none so blind as he who refuses to see.

And there is none so ignorant of politics as you.

Read a book.

[Kaz]

And.......if they did--could they hope for any success? 

Personally, I do not think they will--I do not think the Tea Partiers are up for that....way too mired in their loyalty to the Republican Party come hell or high water.  I hope I am wrong on this but unfortunately I do not think so.

But even if they did, would there be any hope for their candidate?

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/noah-kristula-green/2013/11/05/how-a-tea-party-third-candidate-could-actually-be-successful

In the term "tea party," the word "party" isn't a reference to a political party.  It's a reference to the Boston Tea Party because like the Sons of Liberty, they think government is spending too much money and taxes are too high.   Since they are not a political party, your question doesn't make logical sense.   Other than the basic ideas that government is spending and taxing too much, they have a lot of different philosophies.

Are you a liberal?  Liberals are the only ones I've heard who don't really understand what the Tea Party is.

[TeeMan]

In the term "tea party," the word "party" isn't a reference to a political party.  It's a reference to the Boston Tea Party because like the Sons of Liberty, they think government is spending too much money and taxes are too high.   Since they are not a political party, your question doesn't make logical sense.   Other than the basic ideas that government is spending and taxing too much, they have a lot of different philosophies.

Are you a liberal?  Liberals are the only ones I've heard who don't really understand what the Tea Party is.

I will not bother to try to describe what the Tea Party is....a waste of time.

  What I am willing to discuss is what the Tea Party Should be.

[taxed]

I will not bother to try to describe what the Tea Party is....a waste of time.

  What I am willing to discuss is what the Tea Party Should be.

What do you not like about them?

[Cryptic Bert]

In the term "tea party," the word "party" isn't a reference to a political party.  It's a reference to the Boston Tea Party because like the Sons of Liberty, they think government is spending too much money and taxes are too high.   Since they are not a political party, your question doesn't make logical sense.   Other than the basic ideas that government is spending and taxing too much, they have a lot of different philosophies.

Are you a liberal?  Liberals are the only ones I've heard who don't really understand what the Tea Party is.

He's one of those that thinks he's smarter than everyone else. In other words chronically stupid...

[TeeMan]

They didn't support Romney. That sentence of yours alone proves you have no idea what you are talking about.

You really butchered my post but you did get one thing right..........Romney lost because of the turnout.............aka The White Working Class did not turn out for Romny....at least in the numbers he needed....he did carry a majority of the White Working Class Vote...but he needed about 72% of that vote to win and he did not get it....about 2 million of them stayed home rather than vote for a politically correct, cultist who as a rich man show no sympathy nor understanding of the White Working class..but I do congratulate for understanding that.  Which of course is something the Republican Party Bigwigs do not understand as they are proceeding down a similar path...aka....select another politically correct moderate to head the ticket.

Psssssssssst Republicans listen up:  one definition of isanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.