Outrage Over Alleged Russian Hacking

Started by supsalemgr, December 12, 2016, 04:03:23 AM

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Solar

Quote from: blades on December 13, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
thats two different subjects that have nothing to do with each other...

like I said who doesnt know that russia has interfered with every election since the beginning of the cold war???

as for this latest population control through the media to keep the people stuck on one subject while ignoing realy important stuff like trump tweeting from the toilet at 3 am and attacking and destroying american companies...ie American people

I refuse to be a sucker to the media...and so should all of you...

russia wants trump not hilary, this is a well known fact, but the question is does trump feel the same about them.

well based on all the pro russia people he has around him its a safe bet to say yes he does...
That was the remark the judge made when Stein's recount BS flopped.
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Quote from: Solar on December 13, 2016, 07:41:29 AM
That was the remark the judge made when Stein's recount BS flopped.

thats a whole other comedy routine that has caused laughs of despair for humanity.

sorry but trump won and unless obama tries to rule the election null and void this is all a media conspiracy to control the narrative...and the people

who cares if it was russia or a dem traitor that hacked the dems???

we all knew dems were underhanded lowlife scum just like the GOP just a little worse...

OLD NEWS

when will the current events start to be talked about with honesty...
OK I know they are ..but this crap is getting old

Ghoulardi

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Quote from: blades on December 13, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
thats two different subjects that have nothing to do with each other...

Actually they have plenty to do with each other: for one thing both involve hacking. Second of all, how can you not be able to find hacking in one, yet claim hacking in the other?

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like I said who doesnt know that russia has interfered with every election since the beginning of the cold war???

How? By raising dissent? If that's your standard, Media Matters and George Soros has interfered in every election also. Any outrage for that?

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as for this latest population control through the media to keep the people stuck on one subject while ignoing realy important stuff like trump tweeting from the toilet at 3 am and attacking and destroying american companies...ie American people

I refuse to be a sucker to the media...and so should all of you...

So wher did you glean this information from? The media.

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russia wants trump not hilary, this is a well known fact, but the question is does trump feel the same about them.

And if they do, so what? You never heard of be careful what you wish for you may get that wish. Sometimes the best thing you can do is give people what they want, sometimes they realize its not what they really wanted. See: Obama, Barack, second term

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well based on all the pro russia people he has around him its a safe bet to say yes he does...

And Hilllary haas no pro-Russian people around her, right? You forgot Obama and his promise of more flexibility after the last election?

Ghoulardi

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Quote from: blades on December 13, 2016, 08:00:26 AM
thats a whole other comedy routine that has caused laughs of despair for humanity.

sorry but trump won and unless obama tries to rule the election null and void this is all a media conspiracy to control the narrative...and the people

Again, the source of information your using? [drum roll] The media.

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who cares if it was russia or a dem traitor that hacked the dems???

we all knew dems were underhanded lowlife scum just like the GOP just a little worse...

I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot the Dems wouldn't give a puppy f@rt about how the RNC was hacked. We'd  just hear a resounding chorus, echoing Obama's statement: "We won, get over it."

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when will the current events start to be talked about with honesty...
OK I know they are ..but this crap is getting old

Honestly by whose definition?

supsalemgr

I am overwhelmed by all the concern about Russia from the democrats and RINO's like McCain, Graham and Rubio. where have they been for the last eight years?
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blades

Quote from: Ghoulardi on December 13, 2016, 08:34:02 AM
Again, the source of information your using? [drum roll] The media.

I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot the Dems wouldn't give a puppy f@rt about how the RNC was hacked. We'd  just hear a resounding chorus, echoing Obama's statement: "We won, get over it."

Honestly by whose definition?

sorry havent figured out how to break down quote and respond in sections..

was not aware that the wis. count was based on hacking...
but either way it goes what does it matter the election is over and I highly doubt that it will be overturned.
and if russia didnt do it it wasnt from lack of effort.

I could not care less what a dem thinks ..or for that matter a republican. as long as the abide by their oath to protect and defend the constitution..



you want honest debate how about what will we do if trump follows through with his universal healthcare plan???

what will we do if trump follows through with his plans to undermine the Bill of Rights and allow unelected gov. employees to take away peoples 2nd amendment rights without due process , along with almost the entire bill of rights as he has said???

while we are all talking about who hacked who these things are being done and no one seems to care...

I will stand for the Constitution at all cost against anyone who wants to undermine it ...and right now its trump and his humpers

zewazir

The progs are desperate to paint Trump's administration as illegitimate in any way and every way they can. Plan on at least four years of whining about the popular vote, hacking, electoral college injustice, and the size of various body parts.  It's been 16 years and they still haven't gotten over Gore's loss to Dubya.

blades

Quote from: zewazir on December 13, 2016, 10:03:51 AM
The progs are desperate to paint Trump's administration as illegitimate in any way and every way they can. Plan on at least four years of whining about the popular vote, hacking, electoral college injustice, and the size of various body parts.  It's been 16 years and they still haven't gotten over Gore's loss to Dubya.

let them... there are real issues that need dealt with and as long as we fall under their narrative nothing will get done...''nothing good''

Ghoulardi

Quote from: blades on December 13, 2016, 10:01:13 AM
I was not aware that the wis. count was based on hacking...
but either way it goes what does it matter the election is over and I highly doubt that it will be overturned.
and if russia didnt do it it wasnt from lack of effort.

So how did the Russians influence the WI election if not by hacking? No matter how much the Russian supposedly influenced, it was American citizens that pulled the voting lever.

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you want honest debate how about what will we do if trump follows through with his universal healthcare plan???

what will we do if trump follows through with his plans to undermine the Bill of Rights and allow unelected gov. employees to take away peoples 2nd amendment rights without due process , along with almost the entire bill of rights as he has said???

I said honest debate by whose definition? You've already told us you think whatever media your going to for information is more honest then the one we go to.

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while we are all talking about who hacked who these things are being done and no one seems to care...

Translation: I couldn't get any traction on the hacking bit, so I'll change the subject.

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I will stand for the Constitution at all cost against anyone who wants to undermine it ...and right now its trump and his humpers

I stand for the Constitution too. But, I can't predict the future, nor can I read minds. That's why my present attitude is wait and see.

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Quote from: supsalemgr on December 13, 2016, 09:32:08 AM
I am overwhelmed by all the concern about Russia from the democrats and RINO's like McCain, Graham and Rubio. where have they been for the last eight years?

Trying to get amnesty pushed through...
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Quote from: blades on December 13, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
thats two different subjects that have nothing to do with each other...
Wrong.  Caring about security when you've been in charge of the security, and cut corners and exposed communications, is a little silly.

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like I said who doesnt know that russia has interfered with every election since the beginning of the cold war???
..and, how many of those hackers still beat their wives?

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as for this latest population control through the media to keep the people stuck on one subject while ignoing realy important stuff like trump tweeting from the toilet at 3 am and attacking and destroying american companies...ie American people
Cyber-warefare is a serious thing.  I hope President Trump gets up to speed and gets serious about it, unlike Hussein and company.

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I refuse to be a sucker to the media...and so should all of you...

russia wants trump not hilary, this is a well known fact, but the question is does trump feel the same about them.
I don't understand why.  Hussein was very flexible, and Hillary gave them a toy button.  Why wouldn't Putin want someone to carry on the flexibility and poor cyber security policies?  Hussein made fun of Romney about Russia, but now he's serious?

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well based on all the pro russia people he has around him its a safe bet to say yes he does...

Pro Russia?  Like when Hussein told Medvedev how flexible he is?
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blades

Quote from: Ghoulardi on December 13, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
So how did the Russians influence the WI election if not by hacking? No matter how much the Russian supposedly influenced, it was American citizens that pulled the voting lever.

I said honest debate by whose definition? You've already told us you think whatever media your going to for information is more honest then the one we go to.

Translation: I couldn't get any traction on the hacking bit, so I'll change the subject.

I stand for the Constitution too. But, I can't predict the future, nor can I read minds. That's why my present attitude is wait and see.


you lost me at go ...


''I said honest debate by whose definition? You've already told us you think whatever media your going to for information is more honest then the one we go to''.


this is complete bullsht and you know it...I never said anything of the kind...
I was base it on trumps own words and no one elses..
if so show me where...or challenge me to prove it..
fact is I have proven it over and over by posting videos of trump himself.

as far as changing the subject,...well the subject has no meaning...by no matter who hacked who or why it changes nothing ...unless you are now saying we are buddy buddy with russia??

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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 13, 2016, 09:32:08 AM
I am overwhelmed by all the concern about Russia from the democrats and RINO's like McCain, Graham and Rubio. where have they been for the last eight years?
Not all that surprising is it though?
Dims in search of a scapegoat, throwing anything at the wall that might stick, anything to draw attention away from the real issue, that the Nation Hates Marxist DimocRATS!
Trump this, Puttin that, hacked emails, contesting vote counts, and nothing outside of Stein splitting the leftist support for hillary had anything to do with it, yeah, the commie Bimbet did more damage to hillary in the end than anything else they can create out of thin air.
And even if Stein's base went to Clinton, she'd still have lost.

Yeah, at this point the Dims are only embarrassing themselves further. :biggrin:
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Quote from: Solar on December 13, 2016, 01:25:46 PM
Not all that surprising is it though?
Dims in search of a scapegoat, throwing anything at the wall that might stick, anything to draw attention away from the real issue, that the Nation Hates Marxist DimocRATS!
Trump this, Puttin that, hacked emails, contesting vote counts, and nothing outside of Stein splitting the leftist support for hillary had anything to do with it, yeah, the commie Bimbet did more damage to hillary in the end than anything else they can create out of thin air.
And even if Stein's base went to Clinton, she'd still have lost.

Yeah, at this point the Dims are only embarrassing themselves further. :biggrin:
The fact that 'Pubs made a good showing in down-ballot elections across the nations supports your conclusion that people are, in general, sick and tired of the socialist encroachment on our society. I will not debate that point at all.

But, I do wonder if we would be looking at another 4-8 years of demoncrap leadership in the WH if the dims had gathered the brains to run someone who is somewhat more likeable than a dose of the clap? Where I work there are a lot of registered democrats, and I heard more than one say they didn't like Clinton in the slightest, with a couple of them saying they did not plan to vote for her.

I do strongly believe if anyone but Trump had the 'Pub nomination to run against Clinton, there would be no talk of a difference between the popular vote and the College. Had the 'Pubs fielded a more widely likeable, strong candidate, and put them up against Shrillery, the Electoral map would look more like Reagan v Mondale.

taxed

Quote from: blades on December 13, 2016, 11:47:44 AM

you lost me at go ...


''I said honest debate by whose definition? You've already told us you think whatever media your going to for information is more honest then the one we go to''.


this is complete bullsht and you know it...I never said anything of the kind...
I was base it on trumps own words and no one elses..
if so show me where...or challenge me to prove it..
fact is I have proven it over and over by posting videos of trump himself.

as far as changing the subject,...well the subject has no meaning...by no matter who hacked who or why it changes nothing ...unless you are now saying we are buddy buddy with russia??

You aren't getting it.  Wondering if Russians are trying to hack into our government and companies is like wondering if 19 year old boys are trying to get laid.  Definitively saying Trump has a connection to Russia to hack into the US and throw the election is like saying there's a connection between a girl's choice in shoes and why the teenage boys are trying to bang her.

By the way, Russia, next time you throw an election by hacking, make it a little more of a blowout.  If Dems voted with Hillary like they voted Dem on the down ticket in PA, and if she didn't lose a ton of Cuban votes (she could have picked off 120k Cubans if she was stronger against Castro and maybe denounced his support - Trump got ~54% or so) in Florida, then your entire hacking plan would have gone down in flames.  Try a little harder next time.

The issue is the hypocricy of Libs that Russia had an effect while they have been asleep at the wheel.  We have Muzzies deep in the WH, classified material floating everywhere on Gmail and elsewhere, and on and on, and NOW they wonder why it could have happened?

My question now is why did Hillary get so many votes?  I'm starting to think they hacked the system to put her ahead.
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