Quote from: cubedemon on July 25, 2015, 08:13:49 AM
yes

I'll fix it for you.

Quote from: taxed on July 24, 2015, 08:31:22 PM
Would that boy get online and complain how evil competition is holding him down?

Maybe, I'll have to find that out.  I don't see cubedemon's questions as complaining.  I see them as just that, questions.  Trying to understand. 

When someone thinks in very literal terms, it is hard to understand what society at large is trying to tell them. 

Interpreting language is something we do all the time, it has different meanings to different people.  It's especially hard when your on the spectrum.

We use clichés, metaphors and figurative language which you can see would be  very confusing to someone who thinks in a more one dimensional, or literal way. 

If someone said to you, "don't change horses in the middle of the stream", they're more than likely not talking about horses at all.   

QuoteMaybe, I'll have to find that out.   I don't see cubedemon's questions as complaining.  I see them as just that, questions.  Trying to understand. 

No, I'm not complaining.   What I'm saying is that American society's beliefs is filled with inconsistencies that make no sense such as some being predestined(property of competition is life has winners and losers) to lose yet they choose to lose(internal locus of control, lack of personal responsibility). 

QuoteWhen someone thinks in very literal terms, it is hard to understand what society at large is trying to tell them. 

Yes, it is.

QuoteInterpreting language is something we do all the time, it has different meanings to different people.  It's especially hard when your on the spectrum.

If this is true then how does everyone understand each other?

QuoteWe use clichés, metaphors and figurative language which you can see would be  very confusing to someone who thinks in a more one dimensional, or literal way. 

True, I'm getting better.

QuoteIf someone said to you, "don't change horses in the middle of the stream", they're more than likely not talking about horses at all.

What else would they talk about.  I hope they don't use bronco horses.

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2015, 08:22:30 AM
I'll fix it for you.

TY

Quote from: cubedemon on July 25, 2015, 07:12:23 AM
Autism is a spectrum disorder.  You're talking about a particular version i.e. kanners.   I'm on the milder end.   So, these "real autistic kids" are more profound then me so they are a huge distance from me. 

I have an extreme need for routine.

So do I.

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I do take things literally sometimes.

Take?  You mean interpret or physically take?  I do as well.

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I do have problems with eye contact.

It's called "being shy".

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I do have some problems with abstract thought even though the internet has helped.

Then quit going to lib sites.

I could easily pass as autistic nowadays, if I was a child.  I had a dad who told me to knock my crap off.  I'm doing the same to you.  We all have our personality traits.  Learn to adapt.

QuoteSo do I.

cool

QuoteTake?  You mean interpret or physically take?  I do as well.

sorry.  I mean interpret.

QuoteIt's called "being shy".

No, it is not.  It is an extreme physical comfort for me.   I wish there was a way to remove the discomfort.  I wonder if a mannequin would work.

QuoteThen quit going to lib sites.

not going to them.   Why would you think I was going to them?

QuoteI could easily pass as autistic nowadays, if I was a child.  I had a dad who told me to knock my crap off.  I'm doing the same to you.  We all have our personality traits.  Learn to adapt.

I'm trying slowly but surely but I would gladly appreciate a couple of tips if you don't mind.   That's why I'm here.  I'm trying to learn to adapt and knock my crap off.   I will ask more questions, collate everyone's responses and analyze them.  I'm going to other sites as well. 

   

Quote from: cubedemon on July 25, 2015, 10:55:11 PM
cool

sorry.  I mean interpret.

No, it is not.  It is an extreme physical comfort for me.   I wish there was a way to remove the discomfort. 

not going to them.   Why would you think I was going to them?

I'm trying slowly but surely but I would gladly appreciate a couple of tips if you don't mind.   That's why I'm here.  I'm trying to learn to adapt and knock my crap off.   I will ask more questions, collate everyone's responses and analyze them.  I'm going to other sites as well. 

When you exhibit some positive thinking, that will be the turning point.  The mind is a powerful thing.  A lot of people are not comfortable looking other people in the eye.  Just practice it.  Find someone you know and look them in the eye and have a conversation.  A little at a time.  You can read a lot about a person when you look into their eyes.  It's like what my old ex-Delta Force boss told me when I was complaining about how difficult something was: "Nobody's shooting at you."

Quote from: cubedemon on July 25, 2015, 10:55:11 PM
cool

sorry.  I mean interpret.

No, it is not.  It is an extreme physical comfort for me.   I wish there was a way to remove the discomfort.  I wonder if a mannequin would work.

not going to them.   Why would you think I was going to them?

I'm trying slowly but surely but I would gladly appreciate a couple of tips if you don't mind.   That's why I'm here.  I'm trying to learn to adapt and knock my crap off.   I will ask more questions, collate everyone's responses and analyze them.  I'm going to other sites as well. 

What Taxed is saying, is today's society is exacerbating a simple common cold into an epidemic.
Today...."Your son won't sit still in class, he constantly annoys other children, always looking out the window", etc, etc, etc....

Yesteryear 1940, SMACK!!!! Sit your ass still Johnny, quit that and do your work, or I'll tell your father that you are not being a good student....Yes Mammm...

No sending the kid off to shrinks diagnosing problems, no stigmas, no reason to classify or pigeonhole the kid as having a disability.
No, he was a normal kid with an abundance of energy that needed harnessed, no drugs, no labeling, no special class.

Today if a child doesn't fit a mold of what the left deems acceptable, they have a disability, they need diagnosed, and drugged accordingly.
Point is, what Taxed is saying is actually good advice, and if you can find the strength to tell those that tell you, you're impaired and have a disability, to go screw themselves.

I was one of those kids labeled disruptive, wouldn't sit still in class, he constantly annoys other children, always looking out the window, etc, etc, etc....(ADHD) and yeah, that was me, but it wasn't a disability, I didn't fit their mold.....

It was 1967, I freakin hated school, my mom put me in school a year early at 4, so I was at a disadvantage from the start, all the kids were bigger than me, I hated it, I was just a little kid, but I did my best, up until I entered junior high when hormones kicked in, now I really wanted out, I had 10 times more energy than any kid in the class, I couldn't sit still, I was flunking every class, they put me on Ritilan, I went to straight A's for the year. Yes, I was the poster child for hyper kid.

My dad said enough is enough, took me off Ritilan, they tested me further, found out the original diagnosis of my problems being a disability were wrong, in truth, I had too much ability, they said I was gifted, but lacked social skills due to a maturity problem being put in with kids much older than I, that I was bored because the school system moved way to slow for me.
Even though I was failing every class, it wasn't because I wasn't learning, I hated taking tests, and wanted to watch the birds out the window.

My point is, we all have issues, but if you let their label shape your life, you'll always see yourself with a disability.
It was later in life that I had my IQ tested on several occasions, they said I was a genius, big whoop, because being labeled genius, in truth, means you lack severely in other areas, and I do, believe me, so having discovered I had the ability to retain useless information doesn't make me smarter than anyone else, it just means I excel in one area, while lacking in another.
What it meant to me, was all their labeling of me, was just their failure in dealing with a kid that didn't fit in with their Utopian world of little mindless drones.

But I had to know, so I took the State IQ tests, I needed to find out if I was born with a mental disability or not, because you start believing all the bull shit labels they stick on you as a kid, they become self fulling, they become walls around you.

So forget all the bull shit, quit focusing on what you perceive as a disability, or have been convinced by so called professionals as a disability and focus on your strengths.
I have a feeling you're dealing with the same shit I did, being labeled with a disability, when in truth, you probably have a gift you just haven't developed, because you've focused all your energy on something you have no control over.

As the great Bob Newhart once said while portraying a psychiatrist. "Stop it, Just Stop It!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0lr63y4Mw

Solar, Bob Newhart is funny.  I am here laughing my ass off.  So simple, yet so profound.   

Quote from: cubedemon on July 26, 2015, 08:07:18 AM
Solar, Bob Newhart is funny.  I am here laughing my ass off.  So simple, yet so profound.   

Yeah, solid conservative trapped in a lib industry that manages to make fun of them without their realizing they are the butt of the joke.

Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2015, 08:14:44 AM

Yeah, solid conservative trapped in a lib industry that manages to make fun of them without their realizing they are the butt of the joke.

I just watched an old movie, "As Good As It Gets", with Jack Nicholson.  He has OCD and says what he thinks regarding peoples looks, etc.  No PC in that movie.  His neighbor is gay, and the things he says to him would never make it in Hollywood today.

Quote from: Dori on July 26, 2015, 12:19:47 PM
I just watched an old movie, "As Good As It Gets", with Jack Nicholson.  He has OCD and says what he thinks regarding peoples looks, etc.  No PC in that movie.  His neighbor is gay, and the things he says to him would never make it in Hollywood today.

I  remember that movie.  I've never been a fan of Nicholson but that movie was pretty good.  The female lead was good...... I forget her name, but she made that movie IMHO.

Quote from: kroz on July 26, 2015, 12:22:28 PM
I  remember that movie.  I've never been a fan of Nicholson but that movie was pretty good.  The female lead was good...... I forget her name, but she made that movie IMHO.

I like actors that can play any character, from comedy to the evil bad guy.  The woman was Helen Hunt.  They both won best actor for their roles in that movie. 

Quote from: Dori on July 26, 2015, 12:45:47 PM
I like actors that can play any character, from comedy to the evil bad guy.  The woman was Helen Hunt.  They both won best actor for their roles in that movie.

Ah-yes, now I remember.  Helen Hunt.  She was darned good but you never hear anything about her anymore.   

Quote from: kroz on July 26, 2015, 12:55:25 PM
Ah-yes, now I remember.  Helen Hunt.  She was darned good but you never hear anything about her anymore.   

I know.  I haven't seen her in anything in awhile.   I ran across a list of movies from the 90's and did a search on my DVR to see if they were listed.  That's how I found that one.  Had seen it years ago, and totally forgotten about it. 

I'm trying to find a movie about a police? detective that is protecting the wife of someone rich.  They are attracted to each other.  It's one of those thriller types.  For the life of me, I can't remember the actors or what decade it was in. In the end, the bad guys go after the detectives wife and son. It's making me crazy.