Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2012, 08:47:22 PM
In this country, voters elect politicians.  Keep trying...

So you dont believe that it requires big money to get elected in this country?   

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 08:54:41 PM

So you dont believe that it requires big money to get elected in this country?

Yes, you need money to run, but that wasn't your point, so please don't try to tie voters donating to their candidates to collusion.  If there are favors, it is because the politician (government) allows it.

Please start being honest.

Quote from: kramarat on August 23, 2012, 08:48:37 PM
Our typical politicians and corporate types, are looking to line their own pockets...................................Obama is looking to destroy our country. Big difference.

Thank you .... the "typical politician and corporate types are looking to line their own pockets" , glad we can agree there.

As far as Obama just looking to destroy our country, I disagree, I dont believe him someone willing to ruin his good thing, though I can see him being sold out to big insurance etc,  thus the mandate.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 09:01:36 PM


Thank you .... the "typical politician and corporate types are looking to line their own pockets" , glad we can agree there.

As far as Obama just looking to destroy our country, I disagree, I dont believe him someone willing to ruin his good thing, though I can see him being sold out to big insurance etc,  thus the mandate.

That is because you haven't done any research of Obama, nor do you understand this country.

Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2012, 08:57:32 PM

Please start being honest.

You need to take your own advice there.  My words are available for whoever to read, Im not being dishonest.

Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2012, 08:57:32 PM
Yes, you need money to run

And I am glad we can agree there as well! Good job,  Taxi! That is my point... Ive already posted in regards to the supreme court ruling that states corporations can now buy your representation without limit. That is one way, that in a big way is allowing for corruption.    :(

Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2012, 09:03:28 PM
That is because you haven't done any research of Obama, nor do you understand this country.

I disagree.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 09:07:12 PM
You need to take your own advice there.  My words are available for whoever to read, Im not being dishonest.


And I am glad we can agree there as well! Good job,  Taxi! That is my point... Ive already posted in regards to the supreme court ruling that states corporations can now buy your representation without limit. That is one way, that in a big way is allowing for corruption.    :(

No Fish.  It is legal to contribute to campaigns.  If the politician doesn't want to accept donations because they will have to engage in collusion, then they don't have to run.  The buck stops with the politician.  You are anti business and anti capitalist, so you want to focus on the company.

Stop partially quoting people and claiming it as agreement.  You still have not answered my question, so I will ask again.  What do you get out of coming here?

Quote from: JustKari on August 23, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
Stop partially quoting people and claiming it as agreement.  You still have not answered my question, so I will ask again.  What do you get out of coming here?

A good ass kicking....

Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2012, 09:11:55 PM
No Fish.  It is legal to contribute to campaigns.  If the politician doesn't want to accept donations because they will have to engage in collusion, then they don't have to run.  The buck stops with the politician.  You are anti business and anti capitalist, so you want to focus on the company.

Ive been focusing on the companies and the bought reps.  And your "they don't have to run" argument doesn't fix the problem.  Our system requires big money to play in, just saying they can choose to not run isn't going to work. Like Rat said "Our typical politicians and corporate types, are looking to line their own pockets".

Quote from: JustKari on August 23, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
Stop partially quoting people and claiming it as agreement. 

as explained elsewhere already, I don't have to quote everything as long as their words are in context. I can quote what I agree with.. Just because you may not like what we are agreeing on doesn't mean it's wrong.

Quote from: JustKari on August 23, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
What do you get out of coming here?

Conversation. And Thus far Ive found some things we agree on. 

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 09:17:45 PM
Ive been focusing on the companies and the bought reps.  And your "they don't have to run" argument doesn't fix the problem.  Our system requires big money to play in, just saying they can choose to not run isn't going to work. Like Rat said "Our typical politicians and corporate types, are looking to line their own pockets".

Again, you are simply anti-capitalist...  Politicians raise taxes, own the military, and create laws. A company can try to bribe all they want -- it is up to the politician to agree.

Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2012, 09:21:16 PM
Again, you are simply anti-capitalist...  Politicians raise taxes, own the military, and create laws. A company can try to bribe all they want -- it is up to the politician to agree.

Again, no Im not.


Politicians give bailout money thats paid for by the people and given to big businesses. Those same businesses are putting money in the pockets of the politicians. Both the politician and the businesses willing to steal from the people are guilty.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 09:25:40 PM
Again, no Im not.


Politicians give bailout money thats paid for by the people and given to big businesses. Those same businesses are putting money in the pockets of the politicians. Both the politician and the businesses willing to steal from the people are guilty.

No, you are like an OWS protester.  You hate business and the country.  You're not alone -- so does Obama.

Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2012, 09:27:37 PM
No, you are like an OWS protester.  You hate business and the country.  You're not alone -- so does Obama.

Obviously you're just going to look past things actually stated to spread lies about me. Either way,  I am glad we could at least agree on something-

Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2012, 08:57:32 PM
Yes, you need money to run