Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 05:46:18 AM
I believe they have common ground to meet on.  We either come together against a powerful enemy, or keep being robbed. Pretty simple really. If you need links to support the fact that we've been robbed I can supply those for you guys and gals as well. Just let me know. :)

We get it Fish, my enemies enemy, is my enemy as well.
Problem is, you want to attack the weapons manufacturer, while we want to stop the end buyer from using them against us.

Point is, we do not share the same enemy, nor do we share your end goal, we have absolutely nothing in common.
You attempt to align us on common ground, where we both kill black widow spiders, therefore we are on the same team.

As to your claim about racism and painting an entire group as racist, because one idiot said something, then I can infer that the entire left is racist since they all voted for a racist.
Would that not be fair?

Barack Obama "Typical White Person" Racist Statement Quote

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 05:43:48 AM

I personally know people that are among the tea party ranks who are racist. But if you need links to support the claim that "bad people that believe in falsehoods are among both the OWS and the tea party", then I can provide them..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/14/inge-marler-tea-party-arkansas-leader-racist-joke_n_1597334.html

"The remarks, which suggested that African-Americans are on welfare, were condemned by Tea Party"

Even the rest of the tea party had to "condemn" the remarks. That's one instance. There are more things out there that show some falsehoods as well, on both sides, you should do some research.   

I notice that you leave out the information that she was the leader of a small Tea Party group in North Central Arkansas, and also that even in this small group she was forced to step down because of this joke.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/15/inge-marler-arkansas-tea-party-richard-caster_n_1600376.html
And I have a different meaning of "racist" than leftist do, and it consists of more than just telling an unfunny joke.

Quote from: Solar on August 23, 2012, 06:48:50 AM
As to your claim about racism and painting an entire group as racist, because one idiot said something

The problem is You cant even see that I didnt paint an entire group racist, I obviously called out one idiot in the group, even said that their actions were "condemned" by the group.  It was proof to the bad people within both groups believing in falsehoods claim.

Sadly you see what you want to see rather than what is.  We have a common enemy, and we are all mutually being stolen from.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 23, 2012, 09:50:14 AM
I notice that you leave out the information that she was the leader of a small Tea Party group in North Central Arkansas

Why would I need to point that out? If you'll read what has transpired thus far , and the reason I pointed it out in the first place,  you'll see that I simply said there are bad people that believe in falsehoods within the tea party and the OWS, but, like Ive said, I dont believe they are the majority. 


This is what happens when people get emotional, they look past actual statements and go off on unrelated tangents.

Simply put, Giles... Bad folk exist on both sides, just because that be the case doesn't mean we should't form an alliance to root out a common enemy. Greedy reps, corrupt businesses, and the legislation created by their union. They need to be stopped.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 01:05:30 PM


Why would I need to point that out? If you'll read what has transpired thus far , and the reason I pointed it out in the first place,  you'll see that I simply said there are bad people that believe in falsehoods within the tea party and the OWS, but, like Ive said, I dont believe they are the majority. 


This is what happens when people get emotional, they look past actual statements and go off on unrelated tangents.

Simply put, Giles... Bad folk exist on both sides, just because that be the case doesn't mean we should't form an alliance to root out a common enemy. Greedy reps, corrupt businesses, and the legislation created by their union. They need to be stopped.

On the contrary, you attempted to paint the Tea Party movement as "racist" based upon a bad joke. Perhaps you don't understand that although it's in bad taste, that doesn't necessarily make her or her group, "racist". And considering the amount of anti-Semitism that was openly displayed at OWS site after OWS site, I would be very careful about flinging around charges.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 23, 2012, 01:15:51 PM
On the contrary, you attempted to paint the Tea Party movement as "racist" based upon a bad joke.

Re-read without your emotional distraction. I said that there are bad people on both sides and after someone accused me of saying that without any proof I posted some proof. I even stated that "the rest of the tea party had to "condemn" the remarks."


Please look past your emotion and realize the words actually written, it would help in further conversation.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 02:47:01 PM

Re-read without your emotional distraction. I said that there are bad people on both sides and after someone accused me of saying that without any proof I posted some proof. I even stated that "the rest of the tea party had to "condemn" the remarks."


Please look past your emotion and realize the words actually written, it would help in further conversation.

Since you didn't post the outcome of her joke you didn't give all the facts, which gave a distorted picture. It was a small group, and even they felt her joke was in bad taste and forced her out, so obviously, her personal feelings weren't in line with those of the members of the group. OWS, OTOH, has been reported to be telling their members to cover up incidents of bad behavior by the "bad people" in their ranks. IOW, it was your usual crap. It would help in future conversations if you didn't attempt to prove your points by distorting incidents.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 23, 2012, 04:25:04 PM
Since you didn't post the outcome of her joke you didn't give all the facts, which gave a distorted picture.

No it wasn't. The fact is the rest of the tea party had to "condemn" the statement. I dont need to repeat the joke to show the picture. A person in the tea party said something that was deemed racist enough to be "condemned "by the tea party. Clear picture there.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 04:54:41 PM

No it wasn't. The fact is the rest of the tea party had to "condemn" the statement. I dont need to repeat the joke to show the picture. A person in the tea party said something that was deemed racist enough to be "condemned "by the tea party. Clear picture there.

It was a bad joke. It was not racist. I got it. The joke was about how the democrats convince people that they deserve free money, and anyone that wants to change the status quo, is a racist. The only reason it wasn't funny, is that it's true. The speaker could have easily used white, trailer trash, to make the point. WTF?

Quote from: kramarat on August 23, 2012, 05:02:09 PM
It was a bad joke. It was not racist.

The tea party seems to disagree with you, thus the "condemnation" of the racist remark. 

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 04:54:41 PM

No it wasn't. The fact is the rest of the tea party had to "condemn" the statement. I dont need to repeat the joke to show the picture. A person in the tea party said something that was deemed racist enough to be "condemned "by the tea party. Clear picture there.

It wasn't "racist", it was tasteless. You have no idea how tired I am of stupid assholes like you telling me what's "racist" and what isn't. I've been a black man for going on sixty-five years now, I don't need some white boy to tell me what, and what isn't, racist. Besides as I said you constantly distort. For example this is what I said :

QuoteSince you didn't post the outcome of her joke you didn't give all the facts, which gave a distorted picture.

I said nothing about you having to repeat the joke. You are either one lying POS or you can't read. Only some Leftoid like you, would consider a tasteless joke, "racist". I consider it "racist" that you think a black person can't deal with a bad joke.

This is for you Fish!
"http://www.youtube.com/embed/AbULBAjstBA"

Quote from: mdgiles on August 23, 2012, 05:11:43 PM
It wasn't "racist", it was tasteless. You have no idea how tired I am of stupid assholes like you telling me what's "racist" and what isn't. I've been a black man for going on sixty-five years now, I don't need some white boy to tell me what, and what isn't, racist. Besides as I said you constantly distort. For example this is what I said :I said nothing about you having to repeat the joke. You are either one lying POS or you can't read. Only some Leftoid like you, would consider a tasteless joke, "racist". I consider it "racist" that you think a black person can't deal with a bad joke.

Well said Giles, I think you hit the nail on the head....again!

Quote from: mdgiles on August 23, 2012, 05:31:34 PM
This is for you Fish!
"http://www.youtube.com/embed/AbULBAjstBA"

Quote from: Solar on August 23, 2012, 05:40:24 PM

And there's some more emotional outbursts.

Quote from: Solar on June 16, 2012, 07:52:17 AM
it's when emotion enters the equation you run into serious problems, especially where Govt is concerned.