Quote from: elmerfudd on April 20, 2012, 01:08:49 PM
Has it ever ocurred to you that the "base" (as you call it) is really a very small minority of conservatives?  That most conservatives are not "extremists" in any sense of the word? That "extremists" on either end of the political spectrum (or any other spectrum) are always a minority (and frequently a very tiny one)?  And that maybe that's why they have so little impact on things and why this allegedly "very successful" forum has, at most, a dozen or so regular posters?

The other reason there may not be that many regular posters is that most people don't have that much time to persevorate on internet fora.  Only us "private sector, job creating entrepreneurs" do. 

No, its the fact that you're a lib and haven't a clue about Conservative ideals.
Read and maybe you might get a clue.

Although a new Gallup poll shows Romney with a small lead matched against Obama -- indicating how close this election may ultimately become -- voters consistently appear to disapprove of the presumptive Republican nominee. As they have learned more about him over the past several years, his negative ratings have soared. Over the past five years, since he began to run for president, the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll shows that negative views of Romney have roughly doubled, from about 24 percent to 47 percent, while his positive ratings have lagged (only 12 percent express "strongly" positive feelings about him).

More important, Romney polls 21 points behind President Obama in public approval -- the worst rating for a likely presidential nominee in a Post/ABC poll since 1984. Indeed, he is the first to be "underwater," with higher negative than positive ratings, in the last eight presidential elections.

Vulnerable groups seem to find Romney particularly unappealing and unsympathetic, as the Post/ABC cross-tabulations suggest. Among voters with annual household incomes lower than $50,000, Obama leads by 29 points. Among the young, who now tend to be in debt, without jobs or both, Obama leads by 36 points. Among married women, Obama is ahead by 20 points. But among unmarried women, his lead grows to 45 points.

Obama's favorable score is 9 points higher than Romney's among married adults -- but this swells to a 37-point advantage among those who are not married. Romney and Obama are seen favorably by about equal numbers of married men, and Obama's unfavorable score is higher in this group. But he jumps to a 20-point higher favorable rating than Romney among married women, 25 points among unmarried men, and 45 points among unmarried women. Overall, Obama is seen not only as more likeable and friendly but as more understanding of the economic conditions faced by most Americans.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_joe_conason/what_mitt_romney_seems_to_believe_and_why_he_s_so_disliked

Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
No, its the fact that you're a lib and haven't a clue about Conservative ideals.
Read and maybe you might get a clue.

Although a new Gallup poll shows Romney with a small lead matched against Obama -- indicating how close this election may ultimately become -- voters consistently appear to disapprove of the presumptive Republican nominee. As they have learned more about him over the past several years, his negative ratings have soared. Over the past five years, since he began to run for president, the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll shows that negative views of Romney have roughly doubled, from about 24 percent to 47 percent, while his positive ratings have lagged (only 12 percent express "strongly" positive feelings about him).

More important, Romney polls 21 points behind President Obama in public approval -- the worst rating for a likely presidential nominee in a Post/ABC poll since 1984. Indeed, he is the first to be "underwater," with higher negative than positive ratings, in the last eight presidential elections.

Vulnerable groups seem to find Romney particularly unappealing and unsympathetic, as the Post/ABC cross-tabulations suggest. Among voters with annual household incomes lower than $50,000, Obama leads by 29 points. Among the young, who now tend to be in debt, without jobs or both, Obama leads by 36 points. Among married women, Obama is ahead by 20 points. But among unmarried women, his lead grows to 45 points.

Obama's favorable score is 9 points higher than Romney's among married adults -- but this swells to a 37-point advantage among those who are not married. Romney and Obama are seen favorably by about equal numbers of married men, and Obama's unfavorable score is higher in this group. But he jumps to a 20-point higher favorable rating than Romney among married women, 25 points among unmarried men, and 45 points among unmarried women. Overall, Obama is seen not only as more likeable and friendly but as more understanding of the economic conditions faced by most Americans.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_joe_conason/what_mitt_romney_seems_to_believe_and_why_he_s_so_disliked

So "true" conservatives do not support Romney, yet Romney kicked ass against all the "true" conservative candidates.  I think I got it, now.  "True" conservatives are either fewer in number than I thought or they're idiots. 

I think, at this point, it's more important for the Republican Party to maintain the House and perhaps even win the Senate, than it is to win the Presidency. Sure, the socialist monkey will still be in power, but having Romney in the White House...well, I'm just not sold on him as a conservative. Having the majority of Congress to counter the socialist monkey will be important, as we all know he'll probably try to ram through every leftist policy he can think of.

I'm convinced that for America to truly return to better days, the TRUE change will have to come from within ourselves - not through any politicians.

Quote from: Jasmine on April 20, 2012, 01:27:14 PM

I'm convinced that for America to truly return to better days, the TRUE change will have to come from within ourselves - not through any politicians.

........or through 'powder and balls'

Quote from: elmerfudd on April 20, 2012, 01:25:43 PM
So "true" conservatives do not support Romney, yet Romney kicked ass against all the "true" conservative candidates.  I think I got it, now.  "True" conservatives are either fewer in number than I thought or they're idiots. 

Thanks for finally admitting your lib/Zombie status.
Now go back and rad Reply #2 for your answer.

Quote from: Jasmine on April 20, 2012, 01:27:14 PM
I think, at this point, it's more important for the Republican Party to maintain the House and perhaps even win the Senate, than it is to win the Presidency. Sure, the socialist monkey will still be in power, but having Romney in the White House...well, I'm just not sold on him as a conservative. Having the majority of Congress to counter the socialist monkey will be important, as we all know he'll probably try to ram through every leftist policy he can think of.

I'm convinced that for America to truly return to better days, the TRUE change will have to come from within ourselves - not through any politicians.

I agree Jas, and good to have you back.

Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2012, 01:32:57 PM
Thanks for finally admitting your lib/Zombie status.
Now go back and rad Reply #2 for your answer.

I had already read reply number two. That's why I listed idiots as an option. Thanks for confirming it. 

Quote from: elmerfudd on April 20, 2012, 01:34:27 PM
I had already read reply number two. That's why I listed idiots as an option. Thanks for confirming it. 

I see, so people that believe in our Founding Documents are of subnormal intellect?
What does that say about you, a man with no American values whatsoever where our Forefathers are concerned?
I guess idiot as well as subversive.

Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2012, 01:40:58 PM
I see, so people that believe in our Founding Documents are of subnormal intellect?
What does that say about you, a man with no American values whatsoever where our Forefathers are concerned?
I guess idiot as well as subversive.

Wasn't talking about our forefathers.  I was talking about your "article" to which you linked.  Thomas Jefferson and George Washington would both consider someone with your mindset an embarassment. 

Quote from: Jasmine on April 20, 2012, 01:27:14 PM
I think, at this point, it's more important for the Republican Party to maintain the House and perhaps even win the Senate, than it is to win the Presidency. Sure, the socialist monkey will still be in power, but having Romney in the White House...well, I'm just not sold on him as a conservative. Having the majority of Congress to counter the socialist monkey will be important, as we all know he'll probably try to ram through every leftist policy he can think of.

I'm convinced that for America to truly return to better days, the TRUE change will have to come from within ourselves - not through any politicians.

Right on the nail young lady.   

Quote from: elmerfudd on April 20, 2012, 02:11:06 PM
Wasn't talking about our forefathers.  I was talking about your "article" to which you linked.  Thomas Jefferson and George Washington would both consider someone with your mindset an embarassment. 

Awww but you did, by insulting those that hold these principals to be truth, you managed to show your very own ignorance regarding our Founding Principles.
I think the term Subversive Liberal idiot fits you quite well.

The fact that not many Conservatives run for office does not mean the base is not more Conservative then moderate. It simply means that Conservatives do not run for office. In the past when we run moderate candidates we lose. That is not to say Romney will lose. in my opinion Republicans are more afraid of another Obama term than Romney's moderate streak. Romney may not be a down the line Conservative but he is not a raging Socialist with a chip on his shoulder about race, and wealth. What is going to happen is the same that has been happening for years. We keep a Democrat out of office but do not advance the Conservative agenda. Then again Romney may be a Conservative president, at least to a degree. For the simple fact that Conservative policies are the only way to avoid the country collapsing. In other words he would have little choice. of course a majority in both houses would make it much easier and attractive for him to be a Conservative president.

If Hussein wins we're doomed. Get ready to be called Greece junior.

I predict some sort of mass civil disobedience leading to a Govt crackdown leaidng to civil war.

Billy

Quote from: hokiewoodchuck on April 20, 2012, 11:39:26 AM
That's just one.......OMG! Find quillers post he must have a 100 pics, some good(local) some not so good(hildabeast clintoon)

Wasn't me posting the Cartagena hooker photos. Sorry.

Sorry Q...It was a pat on the back nonetheless.