Quote from: ldub23 on June 05, 2023, 06:47:50 AMTrump did alot  of  good things and  if  i thought  he had a  chance to win now i might still support  him. He  is  making  way too many unforced errors  now and  i dont think he has a chance  in hell of  beating  Biden or any dem.

No, you don't, and that's a problem! Emotion is a reaction, not thinking!

Quote from: ldub23 on June 05, 2023, 06:47:50 AMTrump did alot  of  good things and  if  i thought  he had a  chance to win now i might still support  him. He  is  making  way too many unforced errors  now and  i dont think he has a chance  in hell of  beating  Biden or any dem.

His base does not think so. He is still polling high among independents. The only way Trump can lose is if we allow the democrats to steal the election AGAIN. Now ask yourself, if the democrats are planning to steal the 2024 election, do you think they would stop the steal if any other republican won the primary?

Quote from: Possum on June 05, 2023, 06:59:39 AMHis base does not think so. He is still polling high among independents. The only way Trump can lose is if we allow the democrats to steal the election AGAIN. Now ask yourself, if the democrats are planning to steal the 2024 election, do you think they would stop the steal if any other republican won the primary?

DeSantis launch was a complete and utter failure. Since that date many jumped into the race.
Why? Because they saw blood in the water, they know DeSantis hasn't a prayer, so they can now bask in the light because there won't be a focus on DeSantis and these candidates can grow their base for future elections.

Sure, they know Trump has this in the bag, but people like Ramaswamy can get his Conservative message out unimpeded.  

Quote from: Solar on June 05, 2023, 07:10:11 AMDeSantis launch was a complete and utter failure. Since that date many jumped into the race.
Why? Because they saw blood in the water, they know DeSantis hasn't a prayer, so they can now bask in the light because there won't be a focus on DeSantis and these candidates can grow their base for future elections.

Sure, they know Trump has this in the bag, but people like Ramaswamy can get his Conservative message out unimpeded.  

I think you nailed it. It does make sense. Let Trump knock DeSantis out for 2024 and 2028. I would have to say bad planning on DeSantis part. Had he waited, he would have probably been the front runner in 2028.

Quote from: Possum on June 05, 2023, 07:20:08 AMI think you nailed it. It does make sense. Let Trump knock DeSantis out for 2024 and 2028. I would have to say bad planning on DeSantis part. Had he waited, he would have probably been the front runner in 2028.

Exactly!
The NWO couldn't risk Trump getting back in, so they did a Hail Mary and destroyed their one chance of stealing the country one last time in 2028.
It's over for theses Scum Sucking Establishment NWO whores!    

Notice how easily the truth flows from Ron's lips, then compare that same guy running today.          


https://twitter.com/i/status/1665687281229873155

Quote from: Solar on June 05, 2023, 07:10:11 AMDeSantis launch was a complete and utter failure. Since that date many jumped into the race.
Why? Because they saw blood in the water, they know DeSantis hasn't a prayer, so they can now bask in the light because there won't be a focus on DeSantis and these candidates can grow their base for future elections.

Sure, they know Trump has this in the bag, but people like Ramaswamy can get his Conservative message out unimpeded.  

We will see. I expect Trump's campaign will be ended  in Iowa.

Quote from: ldub23 on June 04, 2023, 04:18:35 PMWhat about the WHO? Trump congratulated Kim Jung Un for  being  on the WHO'S executive  board. Is Trump even aware that Kim would  like  nothing  more than to lock down America the  next time there  is a  pandemic and  if  we  join the WHO treaty we do what they say. Its a disaster and Trump congratulating  him is  obscene.
https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1665130849799397376

I wouldn't put stock in anything Trump is blurting out now as most of it is for effect, IMO. He's obsessed with DeSantis, despite having a commanding lead in the polls.

What DeSantis understands very well is that when handling questions by the press, you make your point, then move on.  He knows that the follow-up will likely try to draw him into a verbal confrontation with Trump or something.
 That's all this primary means to MSM - a ratings event.

Quote from: WMK on June 05, 2023, 11:13:15 AMI wouldn't put stock in anything Trump is blurting out now as most of it is for effect, IMO. He's obsessed with DeSantis, despite having a commanding lead in the polls.

What DeSantis understands very well is that when handling questions by the press, you make your point, then move on.  He knows that the follow-up will likely try to draw him into a verbal confrontation with Trump or something.
 That's all this primary means to MSM - a ratings event.

I question whether  he really  has a  commanding  lead. I see Iowa turning  out  1 of  2 ways. Either Ron wins  outright or Trump wins with 28-32% but the anti-trump vote will end  up behind DeSantis.

Quote from: ldub23 on June 05, 2023, 09:31:53 AMWe will see. I expect Trump's campaign will be ended  in Iowa.

Iowa is a critical juncture for most, but don't know if that pertains to Trump. This primary is as fluid as they get.

He can't even beat the stupidest guy on the ticket, and you think he's has a shot against Trump?    

General Election: DeSantis vs. Biden    Rasmussen Reports    DeSantis 44, Biden 44

Never Mind....      

Trump 53, DeSantis 21, Haley 3, Scott 2, Ramaswamy 2, Pence 1, Hutchinson 0, Sununu 0

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

"We all know Polls are in essence useless..." That's funnier now than it was the first time.

Quote from: WMK on June 05, 2023, 03:36:03 PMIowa is a critical juncture for most, but don't know if that pertains to Trump. This primary is as fluid as they get.

Trump is  bleeding  out  in Iowa. I expect DeSantis will take  Iowa buteven if  trump narrowly wins  it will be seen as a  loss after  holding  supposedly a  monumental lead.

Quote from: WMK on June 05, 2023, 06:28:35 PM"We all know Polls are in essence useless..." That's funnier now than it was the first time.

I agree, but you can't deny the lack of interest in DeSantis ever becoming anything beyond Governor.
The people know the NWO Uniparty is backing him, and that's a heavy drag no matter how good your record is.

We've been down this road too many damn times and people aren't playing the Establishments game any longer!

What if he plans on Governing to the center assuming he won the primary, would that concern you, or are you for finding an olive branch in all of this?
Many think he would.

Quote from: ldub23 on June 05, 2023, 06:43:55 PMTrump is  bleeding  out  in Iowa. I expect DeSantis will take  Iowa buteven if  trump narrowly wins  it will be seen as a  loss after  holding  supposedly a  monumental lead.

Trump already got outflanked in Iowa when he used the weather reports as an excuse to not come to his poorly received rallies in Iowa. DeSantis' team did not skip a beat and put it in gear ot take full advantage of that situation. Iowa loved what they Saw and heard from DeSantis that day.