Weaponizing the government against the religious liberties granted by the Constitution is not a good comparative to Disney/DeSantis

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 11:31:41 AMYou need to do a little homework, Possum. What DeSantis sign legislatively was completely within the bounds of state government. What did Obama legislate concerning the IRS?  Don't compare Gestapo tactics to State law. Can't square a circle.

Maybe you just need to learn to read. I asked if you approved when DeSantis used what Disney was putting into movies as a reason to change their property tax rates. If a governor has that power and not the discretion to know how to use it, EVERY BUSINESS in Florida will be open to paying a penalty for their beliefs. I do not agree with the way Disney preached wokeism, but I disagree more with the litmus test DeSantis is now using. So, should property tax rates be based on a governors opinion of YOUR beliefs?? You claim to be a conservative, let's see it.

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 11:59:19 AMWeaponizing the government against the religious liberties granted by the Constitution is not a good comparative to Disney/DeSantis

Damn can you read anything correctly?? Obama was going after conservative non-profits, some of them had NOTHING to do with religion. Those non-profits did not pass Obama's litmus test the same way Disney did not pass DeSantis' litmus test.

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 11:22:48 AMYou bet if gets annoying. Facts will do that to you i.e. no wall, Obamacare not repealed. But wait, he did balloon the deficit, even prior to COVID, and despite tax cuts.

Trump could not repeal Obamacare, READ YOUR DAMN CONSTITUTION FOR ONCE!!!

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 11:22:48 AMYou bet if gets annoying. Facts will do that to you i.e. no wall, Obamacare not repealed. But wait, he did balloon the deficit, even prior to COVID, and despite tax cuts.

So has it sunk in yet that Trump was up against the NWO GOP?
You know the truth, so cut the crap!

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 11:22:48 AMYou bet if gets annoying. Facts will do that to you i.e. no wall, Obamacare not repealed. But wait, he did balloon the deficit, even prior to COVID, and despite tax cuts.

Did Trump write the budget? have you ever read the constitution?

Quote from: Possum on May 07, 2023, 04:18:16 PMDid Trump write the budget? have you ever read the constitution?

Always with the excuses. You're diminishing yourself here, Possum. Here's the thing, you can't believe in 'Trump saves' if you have to keep saying 'he's only one man', and "did Trump write the budget?" nonsense. You make Trump out to be a 'dragon slayer' then, always tell me how vast and great his enemies are.
Sure, he may have 'exposed' the enemy within, but he proved not to be sharp enough to play them and defeat them. Fact is, most all the good he did accomplish, was lost in the end. He got rolled pretty good in the end.
Time for someone smarter, younger, and more principled in conservative values to take the reins. Backing a proven looser is not smart politics, but one born of a rationale that's steeped in emotions of anger, pride etc. 

Quote from: Possum on May 07, 2023, 04:18:16 PMDid Trump write the budget? have you ever read the constitution?

He wants to blame Trump for not getting the border completed.        

But his guy will get the RINO to do everything the Establishment Wants DONE.

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 06:39:55 PMAlways with the excuses. You're diminishing yourself here, Possum. Here's the thing, you can't believe in 'Trump saves' if you have to keep saying 'he's only one man', and "did Trump write the budget?" nonsense. You make Trump out to be a 'dragon slayer' then, always tell me how vast and great his enemies are.
Sure, he may have 'exposed' the enemy within, but he proved not to be sharp enough to play them and defeat them. Fact is, most all the good he did accomplish, was lost in the end. He got rolled pretty good in the end.
Time for someone smarter, younger, and more principled in conservative values to take the reins. Backing a proven looser is not smart politics, but one born of a rationale that's steeped in emotions of anger, pride etc. 

You know the truth, so cut the crap!
But honestly, can you convince anyone anywhere, that Ron will be able to take on the global NWO issues?

No one has seen one single bit of proof he can, and Disney is akin to taking on a 5th grade class compared to the global Evil just waiting to pounce on the inexperienced kid.

Keep in mind, the Establishment is backing Ron, so you can bet your ass he'll have losers in his Cabinet just like Bush did... Essence of Cheney/Rice/Powell.
And you thought Trump chose badly, it was the Establishment that saddled him as well with the likes of the traitor Pence.

But Ron is somehow different?            

Quote from: Solar on May 07, 2023, 06:50:35 PMYou know the truth, so cut the crap!
But honestly, can you convince anyone anywhere, that Ron will be able to take on the global NWO issues?

No one has seen one single bit of proof he can, and Disney is akin to taking on a 5th grade class compared to the global Evil just waiting to pounce on the inexperienced kid.

Keep in mind, the Establishment is backing Ron, so you can bet your ass he'll have losers in his Cabinet just like Bush did... Essence of Cheney/Rice/Powell.
And you thought Trump chose badly, it was the Establishment that saddled him as well with the likes of the traitor Pence.

But Ron is somehow different?            

Evil empire??? Hell, Trump got rolled by his own enemies from within. And they're only water boys for the NWO.  Give me a novice any day rather than someone who can't even outmaneuver his own enemies from within.  Conservatism must come from the heart, Solar. Without it, you'll never be able to muster the political will it takes to defeat the enemies we face.  Learn it, love it, live it.

Quote from: Possum on May 07, 2023, 01:42:13 PMTrump could not repeal Obamacare, READ YOUR DAMN CONSTITUTION FOR ONCE!!!

Sure he cold have, but would have meant having the ability to negotiate and out maneuver his own majorities, rather get played by them. And they did so even after repeatedly telling voters "Obamacare" was their #1 priority. Those big, bad wascly wepublicans proved just too much, for the "Art of the Deal" author to handle.

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 06:39:55 PMAlways with the excuses. You're diminishing yourself here, Possum.

Sorry wrong again, YOU are the one who keeps concentrating on areas where Trump did not have the constitutionality to make the changes. Only congress could have changed Obamacare. Even which the hate you have for Trump, which is controlling your comments, you should know the constitutional powers the branches of government have and do not have.  This is one of the problems with trying to debate politics with someone who does not understand the constitutional powers. They do not understand why things do and do not happen.

QuoteHere's the thing, you can't believe in 'Trump saves' if you have to keep saying 'he's only one man', and "did Trump write the budget?" nonsense.

No one said Trump can solve all the problems, (you really need to learn how to understand what is being written) we are saying he is the best man for the job. Trump can not just magically wipe out the deep state, but by exposing it the process can start. Here is another example, is you believe the president is responsible for all spending, it will need to be exposed how ignorant that comment is so that you can then start learning how the constitution is set up.

QuoteYou make Trump out to be a 'dragon slayer' then, always tell me how vast and great his enemies are.

Not only do you not understand the constitution, you really do not know what the deep state is.

QuoteSure, he may have 'exposed' the enemy within,

It took a while but you finally showed something!!!!!!!!!!

Quotebut he proved not to be sharp enough to play them and defeat them.

And then slipped back down.

QuoteFact is, most all the good he did accomplish, was lost in the end. He got rolled pretty good in the end.

Try again.

QuoteTime for someone smarter, younger, andTime for someone smarter, younger, and more principled in conservative values to take the reins. Backing a proven looser is not smart politics, but one born of a rationale that's steeped in emotions of anger, pride etc.  Backing a proven looser is not smart politics, but one born of a rationale that's steeped in emotions of anger, pride etc.

Is that why democrats and rinos are backing DeSantis? If he is " principled in conservative values" as you believe, why are so many to the left backing him? This is a question you should be asking yourself, why do the rinos not see how conservative he is? If he is the one to stop this slide the country is in u8nder Biden, why is he counting on their support to help him? So far you can not point to how he has made Florida any better and how he can transfer that to the national and world stage. You are dealing only in emotions in your support. And I have to ask, why do you not remember past posts. This is another one of your posts where you are asking questions that have already been answered, MANY TIMES. Once more, before the pandemic hit, and governors like DeSantis unconstitutionally locked down this country which allowed the election to be stolen, Trump had America roaring again. I will vote for him because he is the man to get it back.

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 07:30:38 PMSure he cold have, but would have meant having the ability to negotiate and out maneuver his own majorities, rather get played by them. And they did so even after repeatedly telling voters "Obamacare" was their #1 priority. Those big, bad wascly wepublicans proved just too much, for the "Art of the Deal" author to handle.

You have made a lot of just plain stupid comments, congratulations, this one tops all of them. It would have taken sixty votes in the senate, they were not there. Period! You really need to learn the constitution.

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 06:59:57 PMEvil empire??? Hell, Trump got rolled by his own enemies from within. And they're only water boys for the NWO.  Give me a novice any day rather than someone who can't even outmaneuver his own enemies from within.  Conservatism must come from the heart, Solar. Without it, you'll never be able to muster the political will it takes to defeat the enemies we face.  Learn it, love it, live it.

Stop the act that you are conservative, you're not. We have been on to you and have seen right through you from the beginning. You were called out.             Damn good thing clichés are free or your posts would be getting quite expensive.       

Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2023, 07:30:38 PMSure he cold have, but would have meant having the ability to negotiate and out maneuver his own majorities, rather get played by them. And they did so even after repeatedly telling voters "Obamacare" was their #1 priority. Those big, bad wascly wepublicans proved just too much, for the "Art of the Deal" author to handle.

Again, read your constitution.