You folks talk about good candidates vs bad candidates as if it matters on who will win an election. When a conservative talk website is having conversations like this then we are truly fucked. I don't see anything changing until patriots start gathering in big numbers and are willing to sacrifice everything they've got. The normal way to resolve differences is over. No court ruling or political decree is going to right this ship. We are past the point of reason past the point of peaceful conflict resolution.

Quote from: yrunvs on December 08, 2022, 06:01:23 AMYou folks talk about good candidates vs bad candidates as if it matters on who will win an election. When a conservative talk website is having conversations like this then we are truly fucked. I don't see anything changing until patriots start gathering in big numbers and are willing to sacrifice everything they've got. The normal way to resolve differences is over. No court ruling or political decree is going to right this ship. We are past the point of reason past the point of peaceful conflict resolution.

Yes, we cant fall into the trap of thinking it was the choice of candidate that lost and not massive democrat cheating. Elections are not gonna fix this if they dont get fixed first.

Yes we will have to fix this ourselves, but it still will be mostly peaceful. What trump is doing is building the anger of We the People to a fever pitch level. When it happens it will be peaceful because we will find 95% of people on our side wanting an end to the corruption. The only fighting will be as the left radical fringe realizes whats happening and will set up CHAZ in each major city for which the National Guard will be called in and that will be the end of that.

Its an illusion to think half the people or even a full 10% support the left and their antics today.

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 07, 2022, 11:43:49 AMIn my view Walker was not a good candidate, but GA GOP voters nominated him. This all began when Johnny Isackson had to resign for health reasons. While Kemp has done a good job his appointment of Kelly Loeffler was a disaster. I feel there were better possibilities like Doug Jones(I think that is his name). However, infighting within the GOP undermined the entire state organization.

I always have the most respect for your opinions than 99% of the people I encounter...with that being said...I respectfully disagree and here is why...Kemp and the rest of the state wide run republicans won by 300,000+ votes except one, Herschel Walker, he lost by 100,000+. IMO Walker is not a 400,000 votes bad candidate.

Like I said...IMO...the republican run state of Georgia traded the US Senate for control of Ga.

Ask yourself this...why did Stacey Abrams go quietly into the night...not a peep out for her.

Quote from: VVet69 on December 07, 2022, 04:06:01 PMHershel lost by about 100,000 votes. If you go to the trouble of looking up the county returns you will see that the counties around Atlanta (DeKalb county - +200K Warnock, Fulton county - +200K Warnock) were heavily Democratic -- that's where the election was lost.  Until we find a way to change that voter imbalance we will have a difficult time winning any close races where the population centers are heavily Democratic, as they are in a number of Republican and "swing" states.

My numbers where from that night your numbers are from the days after...yet Kemp and his crew crushed it by 300,000+ votes...I wonder why the Monday quarterback failed to mention that...?

Quote from: Bronx on December 08, 2022, 12:42:38 PMI always have the most respect for your opinions than 99% of the people I encounter...with that being said...I respectfully disagree and here is why...Kemp and the rest of the state wide run republicans won by 300,000+ votes except one, Herschel Walker, he lost by 100,000+. IMO Walker is not a 400,000 votes bad candidate.

Like I said...IMO...the republican run state of Georgia traded the US Senate for control of Ga.

Ask yourself this...why did Stacey Abrams go quietly into the night...not a peep out for her.

It looks more and more like you nailed what happened. Do you think they did it so the democrats would keep control of the senate, or did the republicans do it to make Trump look weak and past his prime? I'm guessing in the coming months we will hear more and more from the republicans about how Trump and DeSantis are at war with each other hoping Pence will win out. I wonder if there are still posters who do not understand the term uniparty.

Quote from: Bronx on December 08, 2022, 12:42:38 PMI always have the most respect for your opinions than 99% of the people I encounter...with that being said...I respectfully disagree and here is why...Kemp and the rest of the state wide run republicans won by 300,000+ votes except one, Herschel Walker, he lost by 100,000+. IMO Walker is not a 400,000 votes bad candidate.

Like I said...IMO...the republican run state of Georgia traded the US Senate for control of Ga.

Ask yourself this...why did Stacey Abrams go quietly into the night...not a peep out for her.

I am ignorant about Georgia politics but knowing the lefts election cheating craftiness I wonder why they permitted any Republican to win? Because we do know they control who wins and who doesn't win, right?

Quote from: Bronx on December 08, 2022, 12:42:38 PMI always have the most respect for your opinions than 99% of the people I encounter...with that being said...I respectfully disagree and here is why...Kemp and the rest of the state wide run republicans won by 300,000+ votes except one, Herschel Walker, he lost by 100,000+. IMO Walker is not a 400,000 votes bad candidate.

Like I said...IMO...the republican run state of Georgia traded the US Senate for control of Ga.

Ask yourself this...why did Stacey Abrams go quietly into the night...not a peep out for her.

I think we agree. The GA GOP needs to be blown up. Why have they shunned Doug Collins who could have won as a conservative.

Quote from: yrunvs on December 08, 2022, 04:15:23 PMI am ignorant about Georgia politics but knowing the lefts election cheating craftiness I wonder why they permitted any Republican to win? Because we do know they control who wins and who doesn't win, right?

I grew up in East Point, which is adjacent to ATL. I grew up in "Mayberry", but it has evolved into a third world country. The ATL area has become a microcosm of NYC, Los Angeles and Chicago. It has been that way for years.

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 09, 2022, 04:54:31 AMI think we agree. The GA GOP needs to be blown up. Why have they shunned Doug Collins who could have won as a conservative.

You just don't get it. How could he have won? Politicians are not elected they are selected and you better take a hard look at the Republicans the left selected.

Quote from: yrunvs on December 09, 2022, 05:00:55 AMYou just don't get it. How could he have won? Politicians are not elected they are selected and you better take a hard look at the Republicans the left selected.

It was hypothetical which I realize is above your head. The establishment torpedoed Collins so he could not succeed in the primary. Had he gotten on the ballot in the general his results would have mirrored Kemp and the other statewide GOP candidates.

Quote from: yrunvs on December 08, 2022, 04:15:23 PMI am ignorant about Georgia politics but knowing the lefts election cheating craftiness I wonder why they permitted any Republican to win? Because we do know they control who wins and who doesn't win, right?

Georgia is a red state. We are governed by red state policies, I wish I knew the answer to your question, the best I can come up with is Ga is controlled by nevertrumpers. I started to pay attention when the GOP started with the redistricting voter rolls. They took a large part of an African-American District, Ga-12 and made it part of Ga-13 weakening the voter rolls for Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG), meanwhile, strengthening the voter rolls for David Scott.

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 09, 2022, 04:54:31 AMI think we agree. The GA GOP needs to be blown up. Why have they shunned Doug Collins who could have won as a conservative.

The sad part is Doug Collins wanted the senate seat Kemp gave to Kelly Loeffler.

Quote from: Bronx on December 09, 2022, 06:36:22 AMThe sad part is Doug Collins wanted the senate seat Kemp gave to Kelly Loeffler.

Yep. Collins has obviously pissed off a bunch of folks in the GA GOP.

It was sad about Johnny Isackson. He was a definite RINO, but a good guy. We were at UGA at the same time and I got to know him then. Almost got him to join my fraternity, but with him being from Buckhead there were only a few fraternities those guys joined.

Quote from: yrunvs on December 08, 2022, 04:15:23 PMI am ignorant about Georgia politics but knowing the lefts election cheating craftiness I wonder why they permitted any Republican to win? Because we do know they control who wins and who doesn't win, right?

The left needs to have controlled opposition in place so it doesnt LOOK like the left is taking over everything. If only leftists ever won their cheating would be too obvious so they have to arrange for some RINOs to win too.

Quote from: T Hunt on December 09, 2022, 09:10:15 AMThe left needs to have controlled opposition in place so it doesnt LOOK like the left is taking over everything. If only leftists ever won their cheating would be too obvious so they have to arrange for some RINOs to win too.

Exactly. So for those who think HW was a bad pick by DJT think again.