Quote from: ZenMode on November 30, 2022, 05:52:01 PMThe hyperbole and demonizing is just too much....

Quote from: ZenMode on November 30, 2022, 05:52:01 PMThe hyperbole and demonizing is just too much....

QuoteWhich is why you're getting ridiculed! You have yet to explain what the issue is with Lindell, yet somehow you're trying to tell us, the Conservative base, that he's better than McCarthy, a guy who has sold out the base since his tenure in office?

I asked you earlier what the problem is with Lindell, and all I get is more whining.
Oh wait, he backed Trump. So your TDS kicks in like that of any knee jerk lib. Why is that?

So that's it, you can't explain your issues with Lindell?
Come on, you're a big boy, Right, RIGHT?....

Click the link.
McCarthy pulling a Paul Ryan Omnibus Bill scam. And people think this slime ball should be Speaker?

You'll probably have to click the link, but it's short and full of Marxist BS from the Establishment RINO.

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1ynKOameaanJR

Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2022, 07:59:39 AMSo that's it, you can't explain your issues with Lindell?
Come on, you're a big boy, Right, RIGHT?....

he's a loon. There are legitimate ways that the 2020 election could have been illegally impacted. Lindell just seems to fall for all of the nuttiest ones, like the PCAP data hoax.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 01, 2022, 10:16:18 AMhe's a loon. There are legitimate ways that the 2020 election could have been illegally impacted. Lindell just seems to fall for all of the nuttiest ones, like the PCAP data hoax.

Not to go off topic, but you mentioned moderates/independents deciding the vote.
I wanted to expand on that for a moment.




https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/ipsos-core-political-presidential-approval-tracker-11232022

Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2022, 11:50:58 AMNot to go off topic, but you mentioned moderates/independents deciding the vote.
I wanted to expand on that for a moment.




https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/ipsos-core-political-presidential-approval-tracker-11232022

yep. Unhappiness with a number of things, including general direction, is why the red wave was expected.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 01, 2022, 12:12:36 PMyep. Unhappiness with a number of things, including general direction, is why the red wave was expected.

My point is, there really aren't that many middle of the road anymore, most have chosen a side.

Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2022, 12:14:33 PMMy point is, there really aren't that many middle of the road anymore, most have chosen a side.

I think peoples' minds change depending on who's in power and how good/bad things are.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 01, 2022, 12:48:48 PMI think peoples' minds change depending on who's in power and how good/bad things are.

           
Ya Think?
The DNC is doing all they can to destroy the country. I "Think" it's safe to say, without theft, the DNC is dead !

Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2022, 12:50:51 PM           
Ya Think?
The DNC is doing all they can to destroy the country. I "Think" it's safe to say, without theft, the DNC is dead !

I was saying minds change from election to election for a lot of voters. I believe there are lots of voters who move between parties.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 01, 2022, 05:56:40 PMI was saying minds change from election to election for a lot of voters. I believe there are lots of voters who move between parties.

Maybe, that was true 10 or 14 years ago, but the sides have quickly polarized and after the Dems are exposed as literal traitors (along with a large number of Reps, there won't be a Democratic party left to swing to....if anyone would even want to once the dust settles.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 01, 2022, 05:56:40 PMI was saying minds change from election to election for a lot of voters. I believe there are lots of voters who move between parties.

No thats...completely bass ackwards....

That shows a real ignorance of the current political climate and a lack of observational skills.

Quote from: ZenMode on December 01, 2022, 05:56:40 PMI was saying minds change from election to election for a lot of voters. I believe there are lots of voters who move between parties.

There is but one party, the Uniparty! People are not that stupid anymore!

These two work toward one goal, that of a NWO.

Come on, tell you me you aren't that gullible? The left is Hell bent on ripping off our treasury while collapsing the  dollar and selling us out to our enemies, and the GOP's job is to cover for them.

Look up todays Omnibus Bill, McCON-ell is fighting  with the Base and refusing to work with his commie ass.

Quote from: Solar on December 02, 2022, 04:32:13 AMThere is but one party, the Uniparty! People are not that stupid anymore!

These two work toward one goal, that of a NWO.

Come on, tell you me you aren't that gullible? The left is Hell bent on ripping off our treasury while collapsing the  dollar and selling us out to our enemies, and the GOP's job is to cover for them.

Look up todays Omnibus Bill, McCON-ell is fighting  with the Base and refusing to work with his commie ass.

He seems to be falling for the centrism fallacy, the myth that centrists hold all the power in elections. He thinks that both sides of the aisle are morally equivalent, that both sides are wrong. He thinks centrists have the moral and intellectual high ground. In other words he has a strong prejudice and bias towards centrism and against either side. This is also a fallacy because the left always used these so called faux centrists as useful idiots to advance their side. Trump stole most of them back tho, seems a few still live in their delusion.

Quote from: T Hunt on December 02, 2022, 07:20:36 AMHe seems to be falling for the centrism fallacy, the myth that centrists hold all the power in elections. He thinks that both sides of the aisle are morally equivalent, that both sides are wrong. He thinks centrists have the moral and intellectual high ground. In other words he has a strong prejudice and bias towards centrism and against either side. This is also a fallacy because the left always used these so called faux centrists as useful idiots to advance their side. Trump stole most of them back tho, seems a few still live in their delusion.

   

Nailed it!
Every fence sitter I've ever know had a elitist front, they thought themselves as somehow better than others.
As if not taking a stance on any given issue was somehow superior.

Quote from: Solar on December 02, 2022, 04:32:13 AMThere is but one party, the Uniparty! People are not that stupid anymore!

These two work toward one goal, that of a NWO.

Come on, tell you me you aren't that gullible? The left is Hell bent on ripping off our treasury while collapsing the  dollar and selling us out to our enemies, and the GOP's job is to cover for them.

Look up todays Omnibus Bill, McCON-ell is fighting  with the Base and refusing to work with his commie ass.

I  think the majority of the country still believes there are two distinct parties.  How different they actually are is up for debate.