Quote from: Possum on September 16, 2022, 06:55:31 AMSeems like just yesterday Europe was making fun of Trump for telling Europe they needs to distance themselves from Russia and become more independent. Guess they showed him.   

Yep, I love the fact that they pulled that shit, only managing to enrich Putin.
Talk about shooting themselves in the foot. The left despises Trump, more that their enemy, who they're begging to sell them Ng.
But as far as I know, they can still buy from the US. So the truth is, they'd rather make all of the European people suffer out of spite?
This is why I say all of Europe could wind up in a civil war when they try and oust the stupid fucks. Gonna be interesting.

Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2022, 06:20:12 PMHere is the entire article, enjoy, and it was solely text.

Thank you Solar for this. The article as a whole confirms what both you and I are saying. The US interferes in other nations elections.

Quote from: Tory Potter on September 15, 2022, 12:28:56 PMWe have examples such as Rep. Charles Wilson's (R) activity to intervene in Afghanistan, McGeorge Bundy's efforts to overthrow the government of the Dominican Republic, President Truman's agents delivering suitcases full of money to Willi Brandt, and President Kennedy's use of the CIA and the mafia to topple the conservative government of Canada and get the Liberals under Pearson elected, because Prime Minister Diefenbaker refused to arm the Canadian Armed Forces with nuclear weapons.
So, if the Democrats helped Zelenskyy beat Poroshenko, I am not surprised. Zelenskyy was going to win anyway, so I hope they didn't invest too much money into it.

The US has been doing this for most of its history, just like most other nations. Even Canadians have participated in trying to influence US elections. David Frum worked on President George W. Bush's successful campaign. Chris Wylie was influential in President Trump's successful campaign in 2016.
The Democrats and Republicans reciprocate by assisting the Liberals and Conservatives and even the NDP in our elections. The Soviets did it, the British, French and Chinese do it. The Russians do it as well.

Quote from: Tory Potter on September 16, 2022, 10:15:42 AMThank you Solar for this. The article as a whole confirms what both you and I are saying. The US interferes in other nations elections.The US has been doing this for most of its history, just like most other nations. Even Canadians have participated in trying to influence US elections. David Frum worked on President George W. Bush's successful campaign. Chris Wylie was influential in President Trump's successful campaign in 2016.
The Democrats and Republicans reciprocate by assisting the Liberals and Conservatives and even the NDP in our elections. The Soviets did it, the British, French and Chinese do it. The Russians do it as well.

And still, you refuse to accept obozos interference in Ukraine by claiming "They All Do It" BS.
The point is, Ukraine was setup as a money laundering operation for elite politicians, Dims and RINO both.

This is why it's so important that the Uniparty destroys Trump, the only guy to ever challenge the NWO agenda.
Are you starting to see the bigger picture yet?

Quote from: Tory Potter on September 14, 2022, 08:37:17 AMI was just correcting the record. You said President Obama appointed President Zelenskyy. I noted that President Trump was in office when President Zelenskyy took office. President Obama was not in any position to install the President of the Ukraine. If you have credible evidence to the contrary, I would be interested.

In  case you missed it? The entire Trump Russian Collusion hoax, was a Hillary Klinton lie.
Watch the video, and no, I seldom follow newsmax, but the interview was worth the click, watch the short video.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/special-counsel-durham-danchenko/2022/09/14/id/1087428/

Quote from: Solar on September 16, 2022, 01:39:05 PMIn  case you missed it? The entire Trump Russian Collusion hoax, was a Hillary Klinton lie.

I don't recall having any comment of the alleged Trump Russian Collusion.

Quote from: Tory Potter on September 16, 2022, 02:20:19 PMI don't recall having any comment of the alleged Trump Russian Collusion.

Yet with the evidence the left lied about everything, you still support them. Why is that?

Quote from: Solar on September 16, 2022, 06:27:13 AMDo a 10 year spread. Yeah, Putin's hurtin....          

Honestly, I'm enjoying the nut clamp Putin has on Europe.

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas

I think Europe is looking at this like those beach dwellers look at the ocean when the water is completely receded.

Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2022, 03:58:53 AMI think Europe is looking at this like those beach dwellers look at the ocean when the water is completely receded.

Like that moment just before a Tsunami?

Quote from: Solar on September 17, 2022, 04:00:09 AMLike that moment just before a Tsunami?

Exactly!     

Winter isn't very cold until it's here.

Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2022, 04:01:06 AMExactly!     

Winter isn't very cold until it's here.

I've been following this very closely and it appears the plan all along was to force Europeans into accepting this as the 'New reality'. I guess like the, "You will own nothing and be happy" shit.
It's all about power...

Quote from: Solar on September 16, 2022, 05:15:43 PMYet with the evidence the left lied about everything, you still support them. Why is that?

Support who, exactly?

Quote from: Tory Potter on September 17, 2022, 07:26:30 AMSupport who, exactly?

You're a leftist, you tell me!!!

Quote from: Solar on September 17, 2022, 07:32:24 AMYou're a leftist, you tell me!!!

If you and I get into trading insults, it will not be productive.
The leftist in question on this thread is President Putin. I do not support him. He is a Neo-socialist, a product of Yuri Andropov's KGB. Don't you find it odd that there are a few American patriots who side with a Russian Bolshevik? This is a politician that has no respect for any of the natural rights Americans take for granted. If a Russian refers to the conflict in the Ukraine as a "war", rather than the state official phrase of "special military operation," they get 14 years in prison. That is a clear lack of respect for the first amendment. It is a communist tactic. Now, granted, President Putin does have supporters on some American political forums, but do you ever ask yourself who is behind it and why?
It serves the Chinese and Russian agendas to weaken the US and NATO. A divided nation is weak. Disagreement among political parties in a free Republic is healthy, but if it becomes too bitter, the Republic suffers and the nation becomes weak.
China is not weak.

Quote from: Tory Potter on September 17, 2022, 08:10:59 AMIf you and I get into trading insults, it will not be productive.
The leftist in question on this thread is President Putin. I do not support him. He is a Neo-socialist, a product of Yuri Andropov's KGB. Don't you find it odd that there are a few American patriots who side with a Russian Bolshevik? This is a politician that has no respect for any of the natural rights Americans take for granted. If a Russian refers to the conflict in the Ukraine as a "war", rather than the state official phrase of "special military operation," they get 14 years in prison. That is a clear lack of respect for the first amendment. It is a communist tactic. Now, granted, President Putin does have supporters on some American political forums, but do you ever ask yourself who is behind it and why?
It serves the Chinese and Russian agendas to weaken the US and NATO. A divided nation is weak. Disagreement among political parties in a free Republic is healthy, but if it becomes too bitter, the Republic suffers and the nation becomes weak.
China is not weak.

Wait, a leftist is insulted for being called a leftist? That's fuckin Rich!        

Your claim that he's a product of anything is your opinion only! Putin is a composite of his history, he also knows communism is a failed ideology and has stated in as much.

You fail to understand Russians, they do not respect politicians, nor law enforcement since a majority remember them from the days of Soviet op[pression, a place Putin said they will never return to.
So for you to base your opinion on media news is BS, you should know better.

The people like Putin, they love a strong leader as well. Because of Putin, they now actually have more freedoms than we do.
Don't believe me, just watch crazy Russian videos, Russians are allowed to do stupid human tricks, they are not held to our stupid laws like interfering with "Vernal" pools, or as most know them as mud puddles.

They do not have govt oppressing them, we do.!

QuoteChinese and Russian agendas to weaken the US and NATO.

Hello???? NATO is a part of the NWO, you fuckin bet it needs to be destroyed, and I hope Putin maeks it happen!

Quote from: Tory Potter on September 17, 2022, 08:10:59 AMIf you and I get into trading insults, it will not be productive.
The leftist in question on this thread is President Putin. I do not support him. He is a Neo-socialist, a product of Yuri Andropov's KGB. Don't you find it odd that there are a few American patriots who side with a Russian Bolshevik? This is a politician that has no respect for any of the natural rights Americans take for granted. If a Russian refers to the conflict in the Ukraine as a "war", rather than the state official phrase of "special military operation," they get 14 years in prison. That is a clear lack of respect for the first amendment. It is a communist tactic. Now, granted, President Putin does have supporters on some American political forums, but do you ever ask yourself who is behind it and why?
It serves the Chinese and Russian agendas to weaken the US and NATO. A divided nation is weak. Disagreement among political parties in a free Republic is healthy, but if it becomes too bitter, the Republic suffers and the nation becomes weak.
China is not weak.

The left HATES putin almost as much as trump, how can he be a leftist himself?