Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AMYou run the site, so you can do whatever you'd like, including putting words in my mouth that I didn't say, because I never said you HAD to break the law to become a citizen. The thread is about asylum seekers who are flooding the border, not just anyone who wants to become a citizen.

What I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.

Under immigration law, the United States allows people who come to this country to file an asylum claim if they "have suffered persecution or fear they will suffer persecution" due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, according to the United States Citizenship Services website.

Asylum seekers arriving at the border are making a case not just to be let into the country, but to be allowed to stay. Here is how it works:


First step

The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html

Genuine "asylum seekers" do NOT have to break the law, this is a Democrat lie in order to nullify immigration laws. If one is a genuine, honest and truthful "asylum seeker" then they should welcome going through LEGALLY at the port of entry, NOT illegally. Secondly, if one is TRULY fleeing their country of origin for reasons of safety, they would want to follow all of the laws of the country that they are going to.

I have to agree that you are "flinging poo" hoping that something sticks. I will say one thing for you, you have the Democrat narrative down pat. I just wish you were a little more honest and truthful!

Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AMYou run the site, so you can do whatever you'd like, including putting words in my mouth that I didn't say, because I never said you HAD to break the law to become a citizen. The thread is about asylum seekers who are flooding the border, not just anyone who wants to become a citizen.

What I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.

Under immigration law, the United States allows people who come to this country to file an asylum claim if they "have suffered persecution or fear they will suffer persecution" due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, according to the United States Citizenship Services website.

Asylum seekers arriving at the border are making a case not just to be let into the country, but to be allowed to stay. Here is how it works:


First step

The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html

According to your own article the denial rate is as high as 80%, they are not being deported as REQUIRED BY LAW. Those who are not deported are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Like the title of this thread say, nothing is being done.

QuoteFor Central Americans, the denial rate is closer to 80 percent. Those who are not granted asylum face a final order of removal and must leave the country or risk deportation.

Quote from: RV on August 11, 2021, 05:33:06 AMGenuine "asylum seekers" do NOT have to break the law, this is a Democrat lie in order to nullify immigration laws. If one is a genuine, honest and truthful "asylum seeker" then they should welcome going through LEGALLY at the port of entry, NOT illegally. Secondly, if one is TRULY fleeing their country of origin for reasons of safety, they would want to follow all of the laws of the country that they are going to.

I have to agree that you are "flinging poo" hoping that something sticks. I will say one thing for you, you have the Democrat narrative down pat. I just wish you were a little more honest and truthful!

Again, the current discussion is about people flooding the border.  That is what I'm talking about.  It's all of you who are bringing up other situations, not me.

Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AMYou run the site, so you can do whatever you'd like, including putting words in my mouth that I didn't say, because I never said you HAD to break the law to become a citizen. The thread is about asylum seekers who are flooding the border, not just anyone who wants to become a citizen.

What I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.

Under immigration law, the United States allows people who come to this country to file an asylum claim if they "have suffered persecution or fear they will suffer persecution" due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, according to the United States Citizenship Services website.

Asylum seekers arriving at the border are making a case not just to be let into the country, but to be allowed to stay. Here is how it works:


First step

The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html

Now, show us the law where we're forced by law to accept a million people?
 

Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AMWhat I DID say was that asylum seekers have to illegally cross the border in order to initiate the asylum process, because CBP agents can not cross into Mexico to detain them.

BS asylum seekers do not have to cross the border illegally, to initiate the asylum process.  Show us the law that asylum seekers have to cross the border illegally to get asylum process started. 

Quote from: Possum on August 11, 2021, 05:33:38 AMAccording to your own article the denial rate is as high as 80%, they are not being deported as REQUIRED BY LAW. Those who are not deported are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Like the title of this thread say, nothing is being done.

Based on what do you say they aren't being deported as required?  The fact that a lot come to the border doesn't change the requirements to get past the initial screening done at the border and move on to the next steps.

Quote from: walkstall on August 11, 2021, 06:32:35 AMBS asylum seekers do not have to cross the border illegally, to initiate the asylum process.  Show us the law that asylum seekers have to cross the border illegally to get asylum process started.

It's part of the process for those who follow the established process.  They have to step foot into US soil. If an asylum seeker at one of the ports if entry, never takes the step across the border which, by virtue of the fact that they are not US citizens and therefore are legally allowed to cross the border, IS crossing illegally!  They are then detained and evaluated. None of this is new. This has been the process for decades.

First step

The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html

Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 07:18:55 AMIt's part of the process for those who follow the established process.  They have to step foot into US soil. If an asylum seeker at one of the ports if entry, never takes the step across the border which, by virtue of the fact that they are not US citizens and therefore are legally allowed to cross the border, IS crossing illegally!  They are then detained and evaluated. None of this is new. This has been the process for decades.

First step

The process for migrants seeking asylum starts when a person steps foot on U.S. soil, either by presenting him or herself to Customs and Border Protection officers at an official port of entry or by crossing the border elsewhere and surrendering to Border Patrol agents.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1293059/crossing-us-border-first-step-in-complex-asylum-process.html

Fuck that! They crossed several borders, anyone of which where they could have applied for asylum, in a country that speaks their native language.
The US is in no way obligated to taking in millions of people wanting a different life. If they want to come here, they can follow the law and apply like everyone else while they wait in another country!

Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2021, 08:12:59 AMFuck that! They crossed several borders, anyone of which where they could have applied for asylum, in a country that speaks their native language.
The US is in no way obligated to taking in millions of people wanting a different life. If they want to come here, they can follow the law and apply like everyone else while they wait in another country!

I don't disagree that they could have requested asylum in Mexico, but chose to go to the US.  However, the US policy for asylum seekers at the border exists.

The US approves an average of 25k asylum seekers/year despite the fact that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, come to the border seeking asylum. At this point, I see no evidence that the US has accepted "millions" of asylees.



https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/588/include/figure1.svg

Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2021, 08:12:59 AMFuck that! They crossed several borders, anyone of which where they could have applied for asylum, in a country that speaks their native language.
The US is in no way obligated to taking in millions of people wanting a different life. If they want to come here, they can follow the law and apply like everyone else while they wait in another country!

I see his timeout do not stop his poo flinging BS.   

I will state AGAIN...

This discussion is about the flood of asylum seekers at the border.  I stated how the process works for those people.  I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek citizenship.  I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek asylum.  I've never that the ONLY way to seek asylum/citizenship is to illegally cross the border. I never said that they couldn't stop in Mexico. Those are all words that have been put into my mouth by posters here.

As I said in my first post today... those who run the site can do as they please and if it pleases them to  ban me for things I didn't say, so be it.

Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 09:02:34 AMI will state AGAIN...

This discussion is about the flood of asylum seekers at the border.  I stated how the process works for those people.  I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek citizenship.  I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek asylum.  I've never that the ONLY way to seek asylum/citizenship is to illegally cross the border. I never said that they couldn't stop in Mexico. Those are all words that have been put into my mouth by posters here.

As I said in my first post today... those who run the site can do as they please and if it pleases them to  ban me for things I didn't say, so be it.

Wait, you're under the illusion that we're supposed to accept a flood of illegals, because of a loophole in the law?        

Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 09:02:34 AMI will state AGAIN...

This discussion is about the flood of asylum seekers at the border.  I stated how the process works for those people.  I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek citizenship.  I've never said that coming to the border is the ONLY way to seek asylum.  I've never that the ONLY way to seek asylum/citizenship is to illegally cross the border. I never said that they couldn't stop in Mexico. Those are all words that have been put into my mouth by posters here.

As I said in my first post today... those who run the site can do as they please and if it pleases them to  ban me for things I didn't say, so be it.

Like all liberal Democrats, it's what you DON'T say that people are focusing on. It's true that you DIDN'T say that ALL asylum seekers HAVE to come here illegally but, you excused it and implied that crossing illegally is a requirement for asylum.

Breaking the law for any reason is breaking the law. One cannot commit armed robbery and then claim that they only robbed because they had no food nor money. One cannot commit murder and then claim that it was self defense. One cannot molest a child and then claim that it was all brought on by the child.

Liberals want to excuse lawlessness and do away with the Constitution. Conservatives want law and order and the Constitution to be upheld.

Quote from: p1tchblack on August 11, 2021, 08:40:34 AMI don't disagree that they could have requested asylum in Mexico, but chose to go to the US.  However, the US policy for asylum seekers at the border exists.

The US approves an average of 25k asylum seekers/year despite the fact that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, come to the border seeking asylum. At this point, I see no evidence that the US has accepted "millions" of asylees.



https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/588/include/figure1.svg

Because you don't want the truth!

https://summit.news/2021/06/30/half-a-million-illegals-crossed-since-harris-named-border-czar/

https://nworeport.me/2021/08/09/over-1-million-people-entered-u-s-illegally-in-first-six-months-of-2021/

Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2021, 09:06:39 AMWait, you're under the illusion that we're supposed to accept a flood of illegals, because of a loophole in the law?        

If there are "loopholes" in the law, you can bet your lunch money that those loopholes exist for Democrats to get around the law, circumvent the law and ignore it.