Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 02:01:29 PMWhy don't you provide some evidence for your claims?

Commonsense is pretty hard to back up. I've been doing this for a long time, it's knowledge gleaned over decades of wisdom.
You too will develop a second sense for this stuff in the not so distant future..

Trust nothing. As Reagan would say, "Trust, but verify". Never take anything at face value, especially where politics is concerned, question it all, and ask yourself, why are they telling us this and what is it they aren't telling us, What are they distracting us from, and Always Follow the Money.

Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 02:50:30 PMCommonsense is pretty hard to back up. I've been doing this for a long time, it's knowledge gleaned over decades of wisdom.
You too will develop a second sense for this stuff in the not so distant future..

Trust nothing. As Reagan would say, "Trust, but verify". Never take anything at face value, especially where politics is concerned, question it all, and ask yourself, why are they telling us this and what is it they aren't telling us, What are they distracting us from, and Always Follow the Money.

I admit I have a lot to learn. Lets just talk about both legal and illegal immigration. There are around 50 million foreign born immigrants in the country, for now. 27% and rising are illegal aliens than means around 37.5 million of them are legal voters. With all the handouts, freebies and zero incentives to assimilate why would they vote for republican's who encourage independence, self reliance and self improvement?    

Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 03:34:47 PMI admit I have a lot to learn. Lets just talk about both legal and illegal immigration. There are around 50 million foreign born immigrants in the country, for now. 27% and rising are illegal aliens than means around 37.5 million of them are legal voters. With all the handouts, freebies and zero incentives to assimilate why would they vote for republican's who encourage independence, self reliance and self improvement?

Hate to throw this out there, but immigrants, legal and illegal can not vote in a federal election.

Quotehttps://www.stilt.com/blog/2020/07/2020-election-and-immigrants/

QuoteIn the US, voting takes place at three levels: federal, state, and local. As per the rules, generally, lawful permanent residents aren't allowed to cast their votes unless they become naturalized US citizens.

Stop watching cnn.

Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 03:34:47 PMI admit I have a lot to learn. Lets just talk about both legal and illegal immigration. There are around 50 million foreign born immigrants in the country, for now. 27% and rising are illegal aliens than means around 37.5 million of them are legal voters. With all the handouts, freebies and zero incentives to assimilate why would they vote for republican's who encourage independence, self reliance and self improvement?

They get welfare regardless of the party. You do know, it's the GOP who feigns disgust for illegal immigration, Right?
The Uniparty plays a game, they've been doing this for decades, the DNC demand this or that, the GOP says "Oh no, you can't have that", then they sit down and pretend to do the work of the people while conveniently caving to the left, EVERY DAMN TIME.

They've been doing this for decades, that's why we're in the mess we're in.
Illegals know this game, they aren't stupid, but most want to work for a living, they're used to hard work, that's why the GOP loves them, they can pay them cheaper than Americans demand.

Follow the money...

Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 04:28:13 PMThey get welfare regardless of the party. You do know, it's the GOP who feigns disgust for illegal immigration, Right?
The Uniparty plays a game, they've been doing this for decades, the DNC demand this or that, the GOP says "Oh no, you can't have that", then they sit down and pretend to do the work of the people while conveniently caving to the left, EVERY DAMN TIME.

They've been doing this for decades, that's why we're in the mess we're in.
Illegals know this game, they aren't stupid, but most want to work for a living, they're used to hard work, that's why the GOP loves them, they can pay them cheaper than Americans demand.

Follow the money...

Uni-party! I love it! You're right, follow the stinking money, right to the global elites who own everything.

Oops, I screwed up my last post.

Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 05:35:22 PMUni-party! I love it! You're right, follow the stinking money, right to the global elites who own everything.

That's it exactly! These people are not there to represent Americans, they're in it for the money.

Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 05:43:08 PMThat's it exactly! These people are not there to represent Americans, they're in it for the money.

So why are elites in such a mad rush to bring in millions of illegal 3rd world immigrants?

Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 06:18:34 PMSo why are elites in such a mad rush to bring in millions of illegal 3rd world immigrants?

I think the elites buy their own propaganda. I really think the leaders of the left believe the bullshit that the MSM puts out to try to brainwash US. Thats one reason they keep making bad decisions, because they dont live in reality, even the leaders. They are all lead by the devil, the father of lies, and he deceives even his own minions.

Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 11:42:04 AMWho?

Never mind.

Quote from: Mimsy on July 23, 2021, 06:18:34 PMSo why are elites in such a mad rush to bring in millions of illegal 3rd world immigrants?

Simple. They are trying to crash the economy, they hate America. Everything they're doing is to create pain and strife, they want a civil war so they can declare martial law and that would be the end of our Constitution, Permanently.

Notice that only but a few Pubs are fighting the good fight, while the RINO leadership sit quietly by doing absolutely nothing.
Point is, both party's know it's over, that they have lost the support of the American people and they know they'll be voted out in 2022, so they need to damage us as badly as possible on the way out in hopes of collapsing our society.

I'd explain it in detail, but it would take about an hour and I don't have the energy, so maybe another time.

Quote from: Solar on July 23, 2021, 08:18:03 PMSimple. They are trying to crash the economy, they hate America. Everything they're doing is to create pain and strife, they want a civil war so they can declare martial law and that would be the end of our Constitution, Permanently.

Notice that only but a few Pubs are fighting the good fight, while the RINO leadership sit quietly by doing absolutely nothing.
Point is, both party's know it's over, that they have lost the support of the American people and they know they'll be voted out in 2022, so they need to damage us as badly as possible on the way out in hopes of collapsing our society.

I'd explain it in detail, but it would take about an hour and I don't have the energy, so maybe another time.

Actually, you said a great deal! Just the fact that there are people within the US who hate this country, hate its workers, hate the opportunities that America offers, hate the peace and prosperity, hate its exceptionalism, hate its form of government, hate its election process, hate its exports, hate its immigration process, hate its flag, hate what it stands for, hate freedom, hate liberty, hate the Bill of Rights and are working constantly to destroy America and make it a Communist country from within is saying a lot!

Quote from: RV on July 24, 2021, 10:26:38 AMActually, you said a great deal! Just the fact that there are people within the US who hate this country, hate its workers, hate the opportunities that America offers, hate the peace and prosperity, hate its exceptionalism, hate its form of government, hate its election process, hate its exports, hate its immigration process, hate its flag, hate what it stands for, hate freedom, hate liberty, hate the Bill of Rights and are working constantly to destroy America and make it a Communist country from within is saying a lot!

Yep, that's it in a nutshell, if they can't institute communism, they'll burn us down as we kick them out.

Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2021, 10:55:48 AMYep, that's it in a nutshell, if they can't institute communism, they'll burn us down as we kick them out.

I hope the American people realize that. there is a very hard core of leftist who hate and despise this country and the people who make it great. I am not sure the democrat party understands what they created. I think they understand what they think they created, but these hard core leftist hate the democrats more than they hate the conservatives. When you look at what Portland or Seattle or, hell pick any liberal run city, has allowed from antifa/blm, that did not result in a unified democrat party. When antifa/blm feel they can accomplish it, they will take over city hall and there goes the ones in charge.

Quote from: Possum on July 24, 2021, 11:45:50 AMI hope the American people realize that. there is a very hard core of leftist who hate and despise this country and the people who make it great. I am not sure the democrat party understands what they created. I think they understand what they think they created, but these hard core leftist hate the democrats more than they hate the conservatives. When you look at what Portland or Seattle or, hell pick any liberal run city, has allowed from antifa/blm, that did not result in a unified democrat party. When antifa/blm feel they can accomplish it, they will take over city hall and there goes the ones in charge.

Though it's far more complex than I want to go into. Suffice it to say, the DNC no longer has a base, instead, they were forced to settle for the radicals, as you point out, BLM and antifa, a Soros controlled group is now all the DNC has for support, (love hate relationship) both share the same end result, destroy Western Culture.

Thing about BLM and antifa is, they're in essence propped up by the media, they made them look bigger than they are.
Their numbers seldom amounted to more than 100 at a time, and that was after bussing in the majority of them, who then move onto the next venue/state/city.

They only get away with this shit in lib cities where cowards live. They have yet to successfully attack a Red city, let alone hit rural America.
My point is, what we see and what is reality, are polar opposites of the truth.
The Left is now, in essence, without power and what little they do project, will be short lived..