The U .S. Need Not be Divided Forever-The Case for Blood and Iron

Started by Dayton3, December 16, 2020, 02:48:54 PM

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Possum

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt.  classes,  at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today.    Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.
You do understand the bill of rights are a restriction on the government, not a document that gives us rights? If you are claiming there are two that are irrelevant, what is to stop government from declaring the 2nd as irrelevant? Or the 1st?

walkstall

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt.  classes,  at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today.    Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.


You would not have lasted very long as a teacher back 50 to 75 years ago.   :lol:

Now I see why the young kid are so dammed mix up. 
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RV

Quote from: walkstall on December 19, 2020, 03:31:32 PM

You would not have lasted very long as a teacher back 50 to 75 years ago.   :lol:

Now I see why the young kid are so dammed mix up.

Yes, I agree, he/she is the reason that our children hate America, hate the Constitution and have a screwed up view of history. Our schools need less communism, less opinion and far more FACTS and TRUTH!
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Dayton3

Quote from: walkstall on December 19, 2020, 03:31:32 PM

You would not have lasted very long as a teacher back 50 to 75 years ago.   :lol:

Now I see why the young kid are so dammed mix up.

How is the amendment concerning quartering of troops (3rd) and the one regarding the right to a jury trial in federal lawsuits of more than 25 dollars (7th) remotely relevant today?

Solar

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt.  classes,  at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today.    Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.
You should be fuckin fired for that kind of shit!!! :glare:
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Solar

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 04:15:10 PM
How is the amendment concerning quartering of troops (3rd) and the one regarding the right to a jury trial in federal lawsuits of more than 25 dollars (7th) remotely relevant today?
Do you even have a clue as to why the Third even exists?
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Dayton3

Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2020, 04:33:39 PM
Do you even have a clue as to why the Third even exists?

Because of the actions of British troops stationed in the American colonies prior to the Revolutionary War.

Solar

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 05:19:14 PM
Because of the actions of British troops stationed in the American colonies prior to the Revolutionary War.
And do you even have a clue as to how that applies to today?
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This is a mistake, unfortunately, there was no cleansing of communism in Russia. There weren't, so was the trial of the Communist Party, which killed millions of people.

It was in Germany, after 1945, that the National Socialist Labor Party of Germany was banned, and some of its leaders were hanged by the neck.

supsalemgr

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt.  classes,  at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today.    Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.

And this poster is brainwashing our youth.
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Dayton3

Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2020, 05:29:31 PM
And do you even have a clue as to how that applies to today?

About the only scenario I can come up with would be when National Guard troops are deployed to a disaster area and need emergency lodging.  Since a disaster area is not a "time of war" they still can't simply take room and board from civilians.    But even these instances would be extremely rare at worst.

Possum

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 05:43:06 AM
About the only scenario I can come up with would be when National Guard troops are deployed to a disaster area and need emergency lodging.  Since a disaster area is not a "time of war" they still can't simply take room and board from civilians.    But even these instances would be extremely rare at worst.
I would still like to see the examples where the constitution was " "very vaguely" written." So far you would eliminate the 3rd and 7th. You would allow "common sense" to overturn the 2nd. Anything else?

supsalemgr

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 05:43:06 AM
About the only scenario I can come up with would be when National Guard troops are deployed to a disaster area and need emergency lodging.  Since a disaster area is not a "time of war" they still can't simply take room and board from civilians.    But even these instances would be extremely rare at worst.

My friend you are not fooling thinking folks. Maybe a portion of the Constitution may not be applied today it is part of a wonderful document. To remove parts of it would be the "camel's nose under the tent". It would open the door to removing parts leftists desire to remove, like the 2nd amendment.
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Billy's bayonet

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt.  classes,  at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today.    Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.

Thats It? Thats the best you can do? Do you even understand why the 3rd exists?  It is so the GOVT Cannot force you to support US troops in your home....meaning they have access to not only your home but your resources just as the American colonists who were FORCED to house the British officers experienced, they turned their private homes and small estates into military camps, "conscripted" their horses and livestock, tore down fences and used it for firewood, no one was free to come and go etc etc.  So you think it is ok(or irrelevant) for the Govt OUR Govt to force you to lodge troops or Officers in your home or on your land AT YOUR EXPENSE, with all the indignaties to follow?

Newsflash  You may get a taste of this in the coming months.  Maybe then you'll figure it out.
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Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 20, 2020, 05:56:52 AM
Thats It? Thats the best you can do? Do you even understand why the 3rd exists?  It is so the GOVT Cannot force you to support US troops in your home....meaning they have access to not only your home but your resources just as the American colonists who were FORCED to house the British officers experienced, they turned their private homes and small estates into military camps, "conscripted" their horses and livestock, tore down fences and used it for firewood, no one was free to come and go etc etc.  So you think it is ok(or irrelevant) for the Govt OUR Govt to force you to lodge troops or Officers in your home or on your land AT YOUR EXPENSE, with all the indignaties to follow?

Newsflash  You may get a taste of this in the coming months.  Maybe then you'll figure it out.

Don't count on it.
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