Blood and Iron (speech) - Wikipedia
The term coined by Bismarck often used to refer to the militarism and nationalism that helped create modern Germany. There are few things better to unite a people and a nation than a (perceived) external threat or a crusade to eliminate that threat and consolidate the power of a nation.
Personally, I've very tired of hearing about how divided the United States is and some repeatedly suggesting the U.S. needs to break up.
Wouldn't it be worth it to unite our country and give us renewed national purpose for at least a couple of decades or more?
Wouldn't it be worth it to save our nation?
A break up is the worst thing we could do, that is what the hostile powers want. They ravage us or we'd end up fighting each other in a civil war, again outside forces pick the Marxist States of America.
Listen, the Left only control major cities in the USA, not the countryside and NOT THE RESOURCE AREA"S, the USA is center right and it will stay that way no matter what.
The only division in the US is in blue States. The rest of us are fine and get along well.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 16, 2020, 02:48:54 PM
Blood and Iron (speech) - Wikipedia
The term coined by Bismarck often used to refer to the militarism and nationalism that helped create modern Germany. There are few things better to unite a people and a nation than a (perceived) external threat or a crusade to eliminate that threat and consolidate the power of a nation.
Personally, I've very tired of hearing about how divided the United States is and some repeatedly suggesting the U.S. needs to break up.
Wouldn't it be worth it to unite our country and give us renewed national purpose for at least a couple of decades or more?
Wouldn't it be worth it to save our nation?
Un-friggin-believable......The democrats have been dividing our country for the last four years now they want a kumbaya moment............ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Go back to the DNC and tell them to kiss off.......... :thumbsup:
"Bunch of F**kers": Biden Campaign Manager Loses it During Interview, Then Calls For Unity & Lovehttps://trendingpolitics.com/bunch-of-f-kers-biden-campaign-manager-loses-it-during-interview-then-calls-for-unity-love/?utm_source=economics
Here's your divide by the democrats that could never heal our nation with this crap they put forth.
Georgia Senate Democrat Candidate Thinks Feds Should Make Sure Illegal Immigrants Get Good Wages
https://americanlookout.com/georgia-senate-democrat-candidate-thinks-feds-should-make-sure-illegal-immigrants-get-good-wages/
Some of you fella's don't quite realize what we're up against here. There is no "getting along" or "uniting" with an adversary that despises you and everything you represent. The left is a foe that wants to destroy America because they hate America to them the USA is the source of all the worlds problems and they are determined to bring her down. They need to be defeated at every level and exposed for what they are. We are the majority they are the minority and it is time we start acting that way.
4 years of dragging my president through the mud and now you want us to "come together"? Over my dead body.
I, personally, don't think we're a divided country.
None of the divisions portrayed on TV occur when I step outside of my house. Everyone seems to get along fine.
And all of the topics of discussion online are of no, or little concern to the average person.
Our unifier is the US Constitution. Once the marxist/left/democraps figure out that we will not tolerate America hating bastards raping it maybe then we can do the kumbaya crap. For the left/marxist/democraps, keep this in mind, you will never convince us that 80 million legal voters went to the polls for a demented old white guy and his whore running mate. The fraud was so obvious. 42,000 people in Nevada voted twice.
No need to divide anything. We are a Republic. The choice is to support it or get out of the country and take up residence in a marxist country. The country belongs to American citizens that have taken a pledge of allegiance to the flag and the Republic.
It may seem like there is a lot of support for marxism, but the real numbers are small. They seem to have a bigger presence, but, that's due to most of them not working and have the time to go out and burn, loot and riot.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 16, 2020, 04:30:46 PM
Our unifier is the US Constitution. Once the marxist/left/democraps figure out that we will not tolerate America hating bastards raping it maybe then we can do the kumbaya crap. For the left/marxist/democraps, keep this in mind, you will never convince us that 80 million legal voters went to the polls for a demented old white guy and his whore running mate. The fraud was so obvious. 42,000 people in Nevada voted twice.
No need to divide anything. We are a Republic. The choice is to support it or get out of the country and take up residence in a marxist country. The country belongs to American citizens that have taken a pledge of allegiance to the flag and the Republic.
It may seem like there is a lot of support for marxism, but the real numbers are small. They seem to have a bigger presence, but, that's due to most of them not working and have the time to go out and burn, loot and riot.
I completely agree that our unifier is the US Constitution. I wish it were taught in more detail in schools and knowledge of it was more mainstream.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:30:10 PM
I, personally, don't think we're a divided country.
None of the divisions portrayed on TV occur when I step outside of my house. Everyone seems to get along fine.
And all of the topics of discussion online are of no, or little concern to the average person.
I see you don't live in Seattle or Portland. My Daughter live in Seattle, she now has her house up for sale. She has lived in Seattle for 35 years. It's the BS you say you don't see is why she is she will be moving, as she love her house. But she does not feel safe now in Seattle.
She started shooting a 357 Colt Python at age 9, so she is damned good at shooting. She just don't want to kill someone just to live in the shithole of Seattle.
Quote from: walkstall on December 16, 2020, 05:53:54 PM
I see you don't live in Seattle or Portland. My Daughter live in Seattle, she now has her house up for sale. She has lived in Seattle for 35 years. It's the BS you say you don't see is why she is she will be moving, as she love her house. But she does not feel safe now in Seattle.
She started shooting a 357 Colt Python at age 9, so she is damned good at shooting. She just don't want to kill someone just to live in the shithole of Seattle.
Toys best friend dreamed of her and her husband retiring in Oregon, they bought a house in Yaquina Bay Newport two years ago near the water, used their life savings to fix it up.
Now it's on the Mkt. They both felt so unsafe their that they both qualified for fire arms training, never thought in a million years they'd be packing a gun, but they both have CCW's and pack everywhere they go.
They're heading out as fast as possible, have no idea where to move, but they are selling and bailing.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:30:10 PM
I, personally, don't think we're a divided country.
None of the divisions portrayed on TV occur when I step outside of my house. Everyone seems to get along fine.
And all of the topics of discussion online are of no, or little concern to the average person.
I'm guessing all them videos of crazy people screaming at people trying to eat at restaurants all over the United states are Hollywood produced. I can go on but what's the point your side are the ones doing all the screaming.
Quote from: Solar on December 16, 2020, 03:42:24 PM
The only division in the US is in blue States. The rest of us are fine and get along well.
no blue "states"
only island blue
counties skirting crime-ridden urban centers terrorizing urban poor into silence
Quote from: TEFLing on December 16, 2020, 10:45:51 PM
no blue "states"
only island blue counties skirting crime-ridden urban centers terrorizing urban poor into silence
I assumed everyone knew what I meant. There are no such thing as actual blue states.
(https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/live_map_house.png?cache_bust=160821245)
You know I've seen this and similar maps many times. It strikes me as odd why a few areas in a few states would think that they should force the majority to accept their "liberal logic". It's sort of like the few mandating how the majority will live. It's not unlike the Nazi's who mandated that the Jews were "sub-human", "had no rights" and "didn't deserve to be treated as humans". Not only are the liberals attempting to force their ways on everyone else but, they are using illegal means to do it.
In all the years since I turned 18, I have NEVER used a deceased person's identity to vote, NEVER forged a signature, NEVER voted for another person and NEVER, EVER voted more than once!
Quote from: RV on December 17, 2020, 06:07:42 AM
You know I've seen this and similar maps many times. It strikes me as odd why a few areas in a few states would think that they should force the majority to accept their "liberal logic". It's sort of like the few mandating how the majority will live. It's not unlike the Nazi's who mandated that the Jews were "sub-human", "had no rights" and "didn't deserve to be treated as humans". Not only are the liberals attempting to force their ways on everyone else but, they are using illegal means to do it.
In all the years since I turned 18, I have NEVER used a deceased person's identity to vote, NEVER forged a signature, NEVER voted for another person and NEVER, EVER voted more than once!
RV, use the quote function so others know what you're talking about.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/11/18/rural-city-trump-voters/
Trump got more votes from those "blue islands" than all of the red area combined. Those "blue islands" are American.
Land doesn't vote, people do.
Quote from: Solar on December 17, 2020, 06:17:30 AM
RV, use the quote function so others know what you're talking about.
Gosh, I've never used the "quote" function before... I just assumed that people were following the thread and knew that I was referring to MANY maps such as the one used.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 17, 2020, 07:55:05 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/11/18/rural-city-trump-voters/
Trump got more votes from those "blue islands" than all of the red area combined. Those "blue islands" are American.
Land doesn't vote, people do.
People lie cheat and steal too
Quote from: RV on December 17, 2020, 07:56:04 AM
Gosh, I've never used the "quote" function before... I just assumed that people were following the thread and knew that I was referring to MANY maps such as the one used.
Look up, your post was first on this page, so no one would know what you were referring to.
Just use it when responding, it makes it much easier to follow the flow of the conversation. It's simple etiquette.
The American left has an excellent teacher, a KGB lieutenant colonel, and now the permanent president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, the son of Vladimir.
What is the son of Vladimir so famous for?
And the fact that he subjugated all the mass media in Russia and even if the voices of the dissatisfied are heard somewhere, no one will ever hear them.
What made Russia the undivided fiefdom of Putin and his clan.
At the end of the 20th century and at the beginning of the 21st, America's great free press became a mouthpiece for leftist ideas that came from American universities and they ostracize or defame anyone who disagrees with them.
And the minds of left-wing boys, girls and old people, are subject, as Dostoevsky wrote, to the influence of demons.
And these demons are very active and inventive. These demons force their carriers to destroy what was built by the hands of their fathers and grandfathers. Destroy buildings, knock down historical monuments of their country, burn books that they, for some reason, do not like.
We, people of the older generation, know perfectly well what this will lead to, because humanity has gone through all this repeatedly - the guilty parties of the French Revolution, the extrajudicial shootings of the Russian Socialist Revolution, the Nazi extermination camp in Germany.
Then destruction, hunger, darkness for hundreds years and a slow return to the natural course of human history.
All my life, as long as I can remember, I wanted to become an American.
In the 70s, this dream seemed unrealizable, in the 80s, too, and only in the early 90s there was hope. We submitted documents to the American Embassy, which was then located only in Moscow, a petition for "family reunification." We (my family) filled out various documents, received some kind of certificates, underwent medical examinations, among which there was an AIDS test for my then young children and elderly parents.
Then came a wonderful day when we were finally invited to the American Embassy for an interview.
In the morning we went with the whole family for an interview, and in the evening we were told, "Your case has not received permission for the status of" Refugees ".
As I remember now, one thought came to my mind - "Because of these scoundrels of the Burocrats from the embassy, I can now, forever, hate the USA, the country of my dreams."
But fortunately for us, on the very same day, Russian President Yeltsin decided to shoot his own Parliament from tanks.
Something, probably, in the head of the embassy workers clicked, they called at night right to our hotel room and said that they had given us permission to enter the United States as "refugees".
Not to say that our American life was easy, but within a few years everything worked out, we all (except our parents) found a job, first me, then my sister and wife, who, above all, had to retrain here for new specialties. But it was worth it, and now both of them work good jobs with decent wages.
Children, too, settled in this life normally, niece graduated from Harvard and became an architect, daughter is an artist, works in film making, son and both sons-in-law, programmers and IT.
Well, although I remained a simple worker in a large company, I had a decent salary, health insurance "for the whole family," and even had the opportunity to retire at 55.
What could be better?
But then something began that I could not imagine even in the worst dreams. The country seems to have gone mad, and the nightmare of socialism is rolling over us all, although not everyone understands this.
Many Americans, even those who are quite educated (although the level of American education is poor), simply do not understand what "socialism" is.
It seems to them that this is just such an economic system in which production belongs to the state, which wisely manages these industries and justly shares the fruits of the social product among all citizens of the country, regardless of their skin color, nose shape, religious and gender preferences.
But these people who think so, forget that the state is not artificial intelligence, without vices and flaws. That the state is people-managers who will manage production much worse than the former owners and who very soon turn into pseudo-owners who begin to divide the "social product" in their favor.
And ordinary people become small cogs of the system, who, for handouts from bureaucrats, will sell their souls.
It happened in Russia, it happened in China, it remains in Cuba and Venezuela.
There are no exceptions to this list.
Socialism in any of its forms - Communism, Fascism, Nazism, Maoism, brings with it hunger, devastation and mass murder.
"Extra eaters" appear, as in the communist Kampuchea, who simply need to be killed, because there will be hunger. And there is nothing to kill, so you need to kill "extra eaters" with shovels.
But these "extra eaters" could feed themselves until the "Planned Economy of Socialism" came to their country.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 17, 2020, 06:13:24 PM
It happened in Russia, it happened in China, it remains in Cuba and Venezuela.
There are no exceptions to this list.
Socialism in any of its forms - Communism, Fascism, Nazism, Maoism, brings with it hunger, devastation and mass murder.
"Extra eaters" appear, as in the communist Kampuchea, who simply need to be killed, because there will be hunger. And there is nothing to kill, so you need to kill "extra eaters" with shovels.
But these "extra eaters" could feed themselves until the "Planned Economy of Socialism" came to their country.
There are people who became LEGAL U.S. citizens by following the law. To ignore their struggle, their sincerity, their strength and their veracity by allowing illegals to become citizens is basically giving bank robbers medals for not stealing more money. Coming to this or ANY country illegally is wrong, illegal, immoral and criminal. A country based on law does NOT reward criminality! You became a U.S. citizen LEGALLY and deserve to be here, illegals do not!
Quote from: RV on December 17, 2020, 08:11:25 PM
There are people who became LEGAL U.S. citizens by following the law. To ignore their struggle, their sincerity, their strength and their veracity by allowing illegals to become citizens is basically giving bank robbers medals for not stealing more money. Coming to this or ANY country illegally is wrong, illegal, immoral and criminal. A country based on law does NOT reward criminality! You became a U.S. citizen LEGALLY and deserve to be here, illegals do not!
Shut down ALL immigration, legal and illegal.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 17, 2020, 05:57:48 PM
All my life, as long as I can remember, I wanted to become an American.
In the 70s, this dream seemed unrealizable, in the 80s, too, and only in the early 90s there was hope. We submitted documents to the American Embassy, which was then located only in Moscow, a petition for "family reunification." We (my family) filled out various documents, received some kind of certificates, underwent medical examinations, among which there was an AIDS test for my then young children and elderly parents.
Then came a wonderful day when we were finally invited to the American Embassy for an interview.
In the morning we went with the whole family for an interview, and in the evening we were told, "Your case has not received permission for the status of" Refugees ".
As I remember now, one thought came to my mind - "Because of these scoundrels of the Burocrats from the embassy, I can now, forever, hate the USA, the country of my dreams."
But fortunately for us, on the very same day, Russian President Yeltsin decided to shoot his own Parliament from tanks.
Something, probably, in the head of the embassy workers clicked, they called at night right to our hotel room and said that they had given us permission to enter the United States as "refugees".
Not to say that our American life was easy, but within a few years everything worked out, we all (except our parents) found a job, first me, then my sister and wife, who, above all, had to retrain here for new specialties. But it was worth it, and now both of them work good jobs with decent wages.
Children, too, settled in this life normally, niece graduated from Harvard and became an architect, daughter is an artist, works in film making, son and both sons-in-law, programmers and IT.
Well, although I remained a simple worker in a large company, I had a decent salary, health insurance "for the whole family," and even had the opportunity to retire at 55.
What could be better?
But then something began that I could not imagine even in the worst dreams. The country seems to have gone mad, and the nightmare of socialism is rolling over us all, although not everyone understands this.
Many Americans, even those who are quite educated (although the level of American education is poor), simply do not understand what "socialism" is.
It seems to them that this is just such an economic system in which production belongs to the state, which wisely manages these industries and justly shares the fruits of the social product among all citizens of the country, regardless of their skin color, nose shape, religious and gender preferences.
But these people who think so, forget that the state is not artificial intelligence, without vices and flaws. That the state is people-managers who will manage production much worse than the former owners and who very soon turn into pseudo-owners who begin to divide the "social product" in their favor.
And ordinary people become small cogs of the system, who, for handouts from bureaucrats, will sell their souls.
A terrific story of diligence and reverence. I welcome you and appreciate your wisdom.
Quote from: taxed on December 17, 2020, 08:12:27 PM
Shut down ALL immigration, legal and illegal.
WHAT? And not let terrorists in? The Democrats would never stand for it. There are too many innocent Americans that the Dems want killed!
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 17, 2020, 07:55:05 AMLand doesn't vote, people do.
not anymore
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Quote from: taxed on December 17, 2020, 08:12:27 PM
Shut down ALL immigration, legal and illegal.
Here you need to carefully look at the already created demographic situation in the country.
Many countries, the current recipients of emigration from the countries of the 3rd world, led by their not always wise rulers (Sweden Germany France ...), brought their own fertility situation to such a state that they themselves can no longer recover and they simply need an influx of fresh blood.
Another thing is that their rulers remained not very wise and instead of an influx of "labor" migration, they received a wave of occupation by crowds of wild cannibals.
Other countries, such as China, for example, do not need emigration and will manage with their own people for a long time.
The United States found itself in a very special situation. In the United States, there are already 3 separate and genetically little overlapping groups of the population, the number of which is in the tens of a million.
These are immigrants from Europe, immigrants from Africa and practically a new race, Hispanic inhabitants of Central and South America.
I'm not going to come up with any new racial theories here or repeat the bullshit the old ones, but to understand that people are not at all equal, this is not racism. This is just a statement of common sense.People differ in muscle anatomy, genetic makeup and even, quite often, blood composition. And, of course, people differ in their brain activity.
(And this despite the fact that the mixing of all races and peoples on planet Earth gives a stable and viable offspring)
Liberals teach our children that all people are equal. In fact, there is no equality, and they themselves do not observe this equality for political reasons. The socialists considered the main people to be the proletariat, their current followers, the representatives of the so-called "racial" minorities or those unfortunate people who could not understand who they were, girls or boys.
(They are always looking for donkeys to carry them on their backs to the paradise of socialism.)
There are 330 million people in the USA. That is, quite a sufficient amount for the country to be self-sufficient without a large influx of immigration.
Jobs, too, is enough, at least it was before the arrival of the "Chinese" grip.
But. for some reason, many of the American people never found a job.
I have a comparison: An acquaintance of mine, about my age, was born in Brooklyn, fluent in his native English, who spent a significant part of his life on Welfer.
And I, a person who absolutely does not understand the English language, burdened with a family of young children with heart disease and multiple operations for kidney stones.
Yes, I didn't find a job in my specialty. Probably not looking well.
But I found a job for myself, worked there for 15 years, I have never been on unemployment benefits, and left there on a legal pension, where I am now.
I'm not bragging. There are a lot of immigrants like me from other countries.
Only among my friends are Ph.Ds for chemistry from Poland, Ph.Ds for economics from Germany, Ph.Ds for blood biology from Ukraine ...
And yes, we are all taking the place of Americans who, for whatever reason, chose to watch baseball rather than pursue an academic or technical degree.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 18, 2020, 09:10:20 AM
Here you need to carefully look at the already created demographic situation in the country.
Many countries, the current recipients of emigration from the countries of the 3rd world, led by their not always wise rulers (Sweden Germany France ...), brought their own fertility situation to such a state that they themselves can no longer recover and they simply need an influx of fresh blood.
Another thing is that their rulers remained not very wise and instead of an influx of "labor" migration, they received a wave of occupation by crowds of wild cannibals.
Other countries, such as China, for example, do not need emigration and will manage with their own people for a long time.
The United States found itself in a very special situation. In the United States, there are already 3 separate and genetically little overlapping groups of the population, the number of which is in the tens of a million.
These are immigrants from Europe, immigrants from Africa and practically a new race, Hispanic inhabitants of Central and South America.
I'm not going to come up with any new racial theories here or repeat the bull, shit the old ones, but to understand that people are not at all equal, this is not racism. This is just a statement of common sense.
People differ in muscle anatomy, genetic makeup and even, quite often, blood composition. And, of course, people differ in their brain activity.
(And this despite the fact that the mixing of all races and peoples on planet Earth gives a stable and viable offspring)
Liberals teach our children that all people are equal. In fact, there is no equality, and they themselves do not observe this equality for political reasons. The socialists considered the main people to be the proletariat, their current followers, the representatives of the so-called "racial" minorities or those unfortunate people who could not understand who they were, girls or boys.
(They are always looking for donkeys to carry them on their backs to the paradise of socialism.)
There are 330 million people in the USA. That is, quite a sufficient amount for the country to be self-sufficient without a large influx of immigration.
Work, too, is enough, at least it was before the arrival of the "Chinese" grip.
But. for some reason, many of the American people never found a job.
I have a comparison: An acquaintance of mine, about my age, was born in Brooklyn, fluent in his native English, who spent a significant part of his life on Welfer.
And I, a person who absolutely does not understand the English language, burdened with a family of young children with heart disease and multiple operations for kidney stones.
Yes, I didn't find a job in my specialty. Probably not looking well.
But I found a job for myself, worked there for 15 years, I have never been on unemployment benefits, and left there on a legal pension, where I am now.
I'm not bragging. There are a lot of immigrants like me from other countries.
Only among my friends are PCBs for chemistry from Poland, PCBs for economics from Germany, PCBs for blood biology from Ukraine ...
And yes, we are all taking the place of Americans who, for whatever reason, chose to watch baseball rather than pursue an academic or technical degree.
First of, there are lazy people in every country. We have two problems with the lazy ones in our country, first off, with the influx of workers from the south, our lazy ones are not forced or needed to work, we can get along quite well with out them. Second, and this one is quite stupid, this country thinks all lazy people should still be able to draw a living wage, even if they have no job. This problem with our lazy ones can be cured quickly with just two suggestions, bet you can guess what they are.
Quote from: taxed on December 17, 2020, 08:12:27 PM
Shut down ALL immigration, legal and illegal.
Yep, time to recover!
Quote from: Possum on December 18, 2020, 09:24:22 AM
This problem with our lazy ones can be cured quickly with just two suggestions, bet you can guess what they are.
Each person has his own destiny and we do not know the reasons why some people do not want or cannot work.
But here is another, very big and very terrible problem - large black families in the absence of a father-breadwinner.
Can a country like the United States afford to have hungry children? The answer is simple. Not now.
I was in the very first government home for people who lost their jobs, in the town of Chester, near Philadelphia, (1942).
People who temporarily lost their jobs have lived there for 3 generations and have not found a job. They were already there and were not very similar to people.
(But the town around this "Project" turned into a cesspool)
...
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:30:10 PM
I, personally, don't think we're a divided country.
None of the divisions portrayed on TV occur when I step outside of my house. Everyone seems to get along fine.
And all of the topics of discussion online are of no, or little concern to the average person.
You see, everyone! THIS is what is wrong with America. This Leftist person seems to think it is what ever HE perceives it is.
I'll bet you live in a big city, huh? You have sat here and Trashed my President. You have insulted Conservatives and conservatism. You have sown the seeds of discord, and disrespect, and now, you want us to forget that your ilk STOLE our votes and cheated the system. Isn't that Special.
Just because your perception that the average person isn't concerned about current events is so far off base, you think we'll forget all this, and play pretty with y'all. Guess what?
WRONG AGAIN!!!
You tried to cheat us out of our President, thereby discounting our votes, and you want absolution? Not "NO" but "Hell NO!!!"
You, by taking the Corruptocrat side, made yourself my enemy. "All enemies, Foreign or Domestic". Decisions have consequences. You chose, and no you can live with that choice.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 18, 2020, 09:40:23 AM
Each person has his own destiny and we do not know the reasons why some people do not want or cannot work.
But here is another, very big and very terrible problem - large black families in the absence of a father-breadwinner.
Can a country like the United States afford to have hungry children? The answer is simple. Not now.
I was in the very first government home for people who lost their jobs, in the town of Chester, near Philadelphia, (1942).
People who temporarily lost their jobs have lived there for 3 generations and have not found a job. They were already there and were not very similar to people.
(But the town around this "Project" turned into a cesspool)
...
This was the product of LBJ, the worst president we have had.
Quote from: Possum on December 18, 2020, 11:55:40 AM
This was the product of LBJ, the worst president we have had.
Partially thought not entirely. Though LBJ was a terrible president. The big tragedy for black families in the U.S. was that the Civil Rights revolution came along at roughly the same time as the Sexual revolution.
As a black person once told me (paraphrased)
"Marching in the streets to protest racism and police brutality was fun. But no one was going to march in the streets to demand than 17 year old black boys not have sex with their 15 year old girlfriends".
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 12:34:49 PM
Partially thought not entirely. Though LBJ was a terrible president. The big tragedy for black families in the U.S. was that the Civil Rights revolution came along at roughly the same time as the Sexual revolution.
As a black person once told me (paraphrased)
"Marching in the streets to protest racism and police brutality was fun. But no one was going to march in the streets to demand than 17 year old black boys not have sex with their 15 year old girlfriends".
I'll guess you weren't alive during that time. Most of us were and we know exactly how this all unfolded.
LBJ was probably the most corrupt leftist the DNC ever produced, including Obozo.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 12:34:49 PM
Partially thought not entirely. Though LBJ was a terrible president. The big tragedy for black families in the U.S. was that the Civil Rights revolution came along at roughly the same time as the Sexual revolution.
As a black person once told me (paraphrased)
"Marching in the streets to protest racism and police brutality was fun. But no one was going to march in the streets to demand than 17 year old black boys not have sex with their 15 year old girlfriends".
Typical raciest liberal. Your answer is wrong. LBJ destroyed the black family, especially those struggling on the edge.
Quote from: Possum on December 18, 2020, 12:42:23 PM
Typical raciest liberal. Your answer is wrong. LBJ destroyed the black family, especially those struggling on the edge.
...and just think, when that 15 year old girlfriend gets pregnant she can get a tax payer funded abortion so she can do it all over again! The liberals have made it so that even though she is a minor, her parents have no control over whether she gets an abortion or not!
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 12:34:49 PM
Partially thought not entirely. Though LBJ was a terrible president. The big tragedy for black families in the U.S. was that the Civil Rights revolution came along at roughly the same time as the Sexual revolution.
As a black person once told me (paraphrased)
"Marching in the streets to protest racism and police brutality was fun. But no one was going to march in the streets to demand than 17 year old black boys not have sex with their 15 year old girlfriends".
What a crock you useless socialist idiot...
Quote from: Owebo on December 18, 2020, 12:52:17 PM
What a crock you useless socialist idiot...
What is your problem? I'm more conservative than most people here.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
What is your problem? I'm more conservative than most people here.
Again with this crap?
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 17, 2020, 02:07:13 PM
I'm more conservative than almost everyone else here. You can ask me about any issue and I'll prove it.
I asked you last time and you avoided it, how about an answer this time?
"How about explaining what's wrong with Trump for starters!"
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
What is your problem? I'm more conservative than most people here.
You wouldn't know a conservative if one hit you in the box you socialist twat....
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
What is your problem? I'm more conservative than most people here.
I have a question for ya Dayton3; how many cabinet positions or departments are mandated in the Constitution? And what should we do about those positions/departments not in the Constitution? Is the term "virus" anywhere in the Constitution? Was the Roberts Court wrong to suspend the 1st amendment? In regards to the 2nd amendment, are there any prohibitions on the type arms?, and at what age a citizen would be allowed to possess an arm?
Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 18, 2020, 05:17:32 PM
I have a question for ya Dayton3; how many cabinet positions or departments are mandated in the Constitution? And what should we do about those positions/departments not in the Constitution? Is the term "virus" anywhere in the Constitution? Was the Roberts Court wrong to suspend the 1st amendment? In regards to the 2nd amendment, are there any prohibitions on the type arms?, and at what age a citizen would be allowed to possess an arm?
Of course the term "virus" is not in the Constitution.
When did the Roberts Court suspend the 1st Amendment
There are not prohibitions on the types of arms allowed by the 2nd Amendment but I'm pretty sure common sense and basic public order indicates their should be.
I'm pretty sure there are no age prohibitions on the right to possess a firearm though again, public order and common sense suggests there should be.
Quote from: Solar on December 18, 2020, 04:09:26 PM
Again with this crap?
I asked you last time and you avoided it, how about an answer this time?
"How about explaining what's wrong with Trump for starters!"
1) Multiple divorces
2) Chasing women (few things disgust me more than pussy hounds).
3) Use of extreme vulgar language.
4) Insulting and denigrating people.
5) His slavish devotion to transactional personal conduct.
6) His need for public praise and validation.
Of course that's "for starters"
I can also list the policies the Trump administration has advanced and supported that I'm in favor of as well and which is why I voted for his reelection.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 06:06:45 PM
1) Multiple divorces
2) Chasing women (few things disgust me more than pussy hounds).
3) Use of extreme vulgar language.
4) Insulting and denigrating people.
5) His slavish devotion to transactional personal conduct.
6) His need for public praise and validation.
Of course that's "for starters"
I can also list the policies the Trump administration has advanced and supported that I'm in favor of as well and which is why I voted for his reelection.
I'll translate:
You're a social liberal! You get butthurt if someone doesn't live up to your standards! None of that is anyone's business, we do not elect saints, we elect leaders, people who pledge to uphold the Constitution.
What is it you don't like about putting America first, having the greatest economy in the history of the world, building a wall to protect the citizens of this country, just for starters!
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 05:56:55 PM
There are not prohibitions on the types of arms allowed by the 2nd Amendment but I'm pretty sure common sense and basic public order indicates their should be.
No! No regulations. Never.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 18, 2020, 06:46:51 PM
No! No regulations. Never.
He's a lib, he may just not know it. :biggrin:
I am quite sure that many of us conservatives today are much more to the left than the most notorious free-thinkers of the mid-19th century.
But what should always be present in the concept of Conservatism is common sense, knowledge of history and the ability to draw correct conclusions from history.
Restrictions on the possession of certain types of weapons will definitely lead to the prohibition of certain types of views. And these are already limitations not only of the Second Amendment, but also of the most important, the First.
Quote from: Solar on December 18, 2020, 06:50:54 PM
He's a lib, he may just not know it. :biggrin:
Oh, he knows it...you can see right through them....
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 05:56:55 PM
Of course the term "virus" is not in the Constitution.
When did the Roberts Court suspend the 1st Amendment
There are not prohibitions on the types of arms allowed by the 2nd Amendment but I'm pretty sure common sense and basic public order indicates their should be.
I'm pretty sure there are no age prohibitions on the right to possess a firearm though again, public order and common sense suggests there should be.
That statement alone proves your are a liberal. Reread the constitution.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 18, 2020, 06:55:40 PM
I am quite sure that many of us conservatives today are much more to the left than the most notorious free-thinkers of the mid-19th century.
But what should always be present in the concept of Conservatism is common sense, knowledge of history and the ability to draw correct conclusions from history.
Restrictions on the possession of certain types of weapons will definitely lead to the prohibition of certain types of views. And these are already limitations not only of the Second Amendment, but also of the most important, the First.
Yes Yuriy, you are correct, even the smallest of prohibition creates within ones mind that it's only a little one, leading to the next one being easier for govt to institute.
These last 6 to 9 months have been a perfect example. First they needed you to give up just two weeks of Liberty under the guise you're helping all of humanity, just two weeks to "Slow The Curve".
Here we are going on a year later and we have people attacking other people for not wearing a useless chin diaper, The govt mark of compliance.
Yeah, this idiot claims Con status, but he has zero historical reference as to what giving up "Just a little freedom" actually means.
Once you give up a little, it's gone forever.
The govt does not give us Liberty Or Freedom, it can only take it away!
Quote from: Solar on December 18, 2020, 06:35:45 PM
I'll translate: You're a social liberal! You get butthurt if someone doesn't live up to your standards! None of that is anyone's business, we do not elect saints, we elect leaders, people who pledge to uphold the Constitution.
What is it you don't like about putting America first, having the greatest economy in the history of the world, building a wall to protect the citizens of this country, just for starters!
to the latter I'm all for that but any Republican could've promoted that had they been bold and done so more effectively without Trumps baggage.
As for me being a "social liberal".
You're an idiot.
I'm staunchly opposed to elective abortion, opposed to LGBT rights, opposed to government efforts to conquer systemic racism, a big supporter of the police.
Again you're an idiot if you think I'm remotely a social liberal.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 05:55:02 AM
to the latter I'm all for that but any Republican could've promoted that had they been bold and done so more effectively without Trumps baggage.
As for me being a "social liberal".
You're an idiot.
I'm staunchly opposed to elective abortion, opposed to LGBT rights, opposed to government efforts to conquer systemic racism, a big supporter of the police.
Again you're an idiot if you think I'm remotely a social liberal.
You just posted a list of the reasons liberals hate Trump, yet claim you're not a liberal?
Quote1) Multiple divorces
2) Chasing women (few things disgust me more than pussy hounds).
3) Use of extreme vulgar language.
4) Insulting and denigrating people.
5) His slavish devotion to transactional personal conduct.
6) His need for public praise and validation.
Then you tell us how the Constitution and bill of Rights is to be interpreted and you still don't see a problem?
There is no Interpreting our Founding Documents, they were written so as to have no questions as to their intent, written so even an idiot could understand them!
And if you think anyone here is a Republican, you're a bigger lib than you realize, the GOP is our enemy, has been for decades!
The bigger threat to our Republic now resides in the GOP, the DNC is dead and no longer a threat.
And no, there is no restrictions on the 2nd, if someone wants to teach a toddler how to shoot, that's none of your business and especially none of govts business!
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 05:55:02 AM
to the latter I'm all for that but any Republican could've promoted that had they been bold and done so more effectively without Trumps baggage.
As for me being a "social liberal".
You're an idiot.
I'm staunchly opposed to elective abortion, opposed to LGBT rights, opposed to government efforts to conquer systemic racism, a big supporter of the police.
Again you're an idiot if you think I'm remotely a social liberal.
Because you're a socialist...
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 18, 2020, 05:56:55 PM
Of course the term "virus" is not in the Constitution.
When did the Roberts Court suspend the 1st Amendment
There are not prohibitions on the types of arms allowed by the 2nd Amendment but I'm pretty sure common sense and basic public order indicates their should be.
I'm pretty sure there are no age prohibitions on the right to possess a firearm though again, public order and common sense suggests there should be.
Those two statements are the opposite of conservative. Honestly you sound like a centrist who leans left. One might use the term RINO for you, tho its not spot on.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 05:55:02 AM
opposed to LGBT rights,
In our country, there are no laws prohibiting anal sex.
Well, what lesbians do in bed can hardly be called sex, so, female masturbation with the help of another woman.
Also, the law is not prohibited.
This means that these LGBT guys have the same civil rights as other citizens of the country.
They have the right to form a legal civil couple, conduct joint activities, pay taxes, adopt and raise children.
If these guys do what your church doesn't like, then our church is separate from the state and is the same private person as LGBT.
The U.S. Constitution was written very vaguely in most places which is the biggest factor in its survival and relevance to this day. It is utterly impossible to apply a document written more than two centuries ago (and deeply flawed at best) literally today. Thus interpretation is inevitable and has to be made.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 07:42:02 AM
The U.S. Constitution was written very vaguely in most places which is the biggest factor in its survival and relevance to this day. It is utterly impossible to apply a document written more than two centuries ago (and deeply flawed at best) literally today. Thus interpretation is inevitable and has to be made.
Why do you call yourself a conservative? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You are to the left of rino. Why don't you give some examples of where the constitution is "very vaguely" written.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 07:42:02 AM
The U.S. Constitution was written very vaguely in most places which is the biggest factor in its survival and relevance to this day. It is utterly impossible to apply a document written more than two centuries ago (and deeply flawed at best) literally today. Thus interpretation is inevitable and has to be made.
Kinda like a living document....you don't say you flaming socialist....
I really don't understand you people here.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 07:42:02 AM
The U.S. Constitution was written very vaguely in most places which is the biggest factor in its survival and relevance to this day. It is utterly impossible to apply a document written more than two centuries ago (and deeply flawed at best) literally today. Thus interpretation is inevitable and has to be made.
OMG!!! If you call yourself a Conservative once more, you're out of here, you lying fucking troll!!!!
The Constitution is neither outdated or vague, read it and give me one example where it is vague and I'll shred your ass and prove you're a brainwashed lib!!
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 07:42:02 AM
The U.S. Constitution was written very vaguely in most places which is the biggest factor in its survival and relevance to this day. It is utterly impossible to apply a document written more than two centuries ago (and deeply flawed at best) literally today. Thus interpretation is inevitable and has to be made.
The very concept of the
Constitution comes from the Latin word
Constanta, which means
Constancy (no change).
From which it follows that
the Constitution should not and cannot be changed.
If for some reason you are not satisfied with the old Constitution, you need to cancel it and write a new one.
Dayton caught on video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1340041933675237378
Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2020, 08:18:44 AM
you're a brainwashed lib!!
Maybe he just doesn't understand the meaning of words? :blink:
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 08:10:26 AM
I really don't understand you people here.
That's because you have no clue what being a Conservative is! Read and learn!!!
https://conservativehardliner.com/what-is-conservatism
Dayton3
Quote1) Multiple divorces
My Mom was married three times. So what?
Quote2) Chasing women (few things disgust me more than pussy hounds).
Grow the Hell up. Sheesh.
Quote3) Use of extreme vulgar language.
Oh my. Your Poor Virgin Ears. Bet you've said worse.
Quote4) Insulting and denigrating people.
Some people need insulting and Denigration.
Quote5) His slavish devotion to transactional personal conduct.
Sometimes it is necessary to get things done.
Quote6) His need for public praise and validation.
All men have egos.
QuoteOf course that's "for starters"
Oh, so it stems from TDS. Gotcha. "Trump says mean things."
Oh, Brother.
QuoteI can also list the policies the Trump administration has advanced and supported that I'm in favor of as well and which is why I voted for his reelection.
You ain't gotta like the Boss, to know what a good leader he is. He is a lot more forgiving and reasonable, than I am, I guarantee. Ya' ready?
Go get yourself a puppy and go to your "safe space" Snowflake. We don't need another flowery speech from some political talking head. If Trump's mannerisms offend you, grow thicker skin. Trump is no politician, and therefore, has no filter for his mouth. It is refreshing and apropos.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 07:42:02 AM
The U.S. Constitution was written very vaguely in most places which is the biggest factor in its survival and relevance to this day. It is utterly impossible to apply a document written more than two centuries ago (and deeply flawed at best) literally today. Thus interpretation is inevitable and has to be made.
You need to leave this country, that's if you are really living here. It is exactly why we need no interpretation from a two centuries old document that makes this the best country in the World. You're no conservative and you should reconsider if you're an American. There are communist countries that would love to have you.
The activist in the teachers union has done a wonderful job on you. At first I didn't think there were 80 million idiots/marxist/commies living here that could have voted for two socialists/communists in the last election, but now I must wonder. We need a purge like they did in Russia, something I didn't think I would ever agree with. Something needs to be done about idiots that hate America. It went to Hell when white guilt elected a muslim who did his best to destroy this country. He wasn't able to finish the job, but then just look at who the demented pedophile and the cum dump Harris want to bring back. America haters, who should all be given an hour to explain themselves and then taken out and shot. Add to that, any network head that would not broadcast the shooting squad will also be taken out and shot.
From Thomas Jefferson:
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.
My God! How little do my countrymen know what precious blessings they are in possession of, and which no other people on earth enjoy!
Quote from: tiny1 on December 19, 2020, 08:59:55 AM
Dayton3 My Mom was married three times. So what?Grow the Hell up. Sheesh.Oh my. Your Poor Virgin Ears. Bet you've said worse.Some people need insulting and Denigration.Sometimes it is necessary to get things done.All men have egos.
Oh, so it stems from TDS. Gotcha. "Trump says mean things."
Oh, Brother.
You ain't gotta like the Boss, to know what a good leader he is. He is a lot more forgiving and reasonable, than I am, I guarantee. Ya' ready?
Go get yourself a puppy and go to your "safe space" Snowflake. We don't need another flowery speech from some political talking head. If Trump's mannerisms offend you, grow thicker skin. Trump is no politician, and therefore, has no filter for his mouth. It is refreshing and apropos.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
He doesn't want a President, he wants a priest, but then we know how they feel about children.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 08:10:26 AM
I really don't understand you people here.
If only you were a conservative....:lol:
white guilt (c)
The greatest and most humanistic civilization was invented, realized and created by white men.
Yes, this is such a fact of history that it is impossible to refute.
But what cannot be refuted can be crap.
In a great bright future for denying the fact that we are all- black white yellow speckled with stripes, we live in the European civilization, it will be brains to judge as it is now being judged in Europe for denying the Holocaust.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 07:42:02 AM
The U.S. Constitution was written very vaguely in most places which is the biggest factor in its survival and relevance to this day. It is utterly impossible to apply a document written more than two centuries ago (and deeply flawed at best) literally today. Thus interpretation is inevitable and has to be made.
So tell us which sections (or all en total) would you remove from this "deeply flawed" document? Would you begin with the bill of rights? Which ones? The right to free speech? Freedom of Religion? How about due process & the 4th Amendt...lets just throw people in jail for the hell of it, or because of how they voted or perhaps affiliation with political party which sounds like what you Marxists are trying to pull basic. Those human rights and freedoms which were agreed upon 250 + years ago dont apply nowadays? Why? Tell us.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 19, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
So tell us which sections (or all en total) would you remove from this "deeply flawed" document? Would you begin with the bill of rights? Which ones? The right to free speech? Freedom of Religion? How about due process & the 4th Amendt...lets just throw people in jail for the hell of it, or because of how they voted or perhaps affiliation with political party which sounds like what you Marxists are trying to pull basic. Those human rights and freedoms which were agreed upon 250 + years ago dont apply nowadays? Why? Tell us.
...and which rights would the liberals apply or take away from any other group that they wanted to control?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 19, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
So tell us which sections (or all en total) would you remove from this "deeply flawed" document? Would you begin with the bill of rights? Which ones? The right to free speech? Freedom of Religion? How about due process & the 4th Amendt...lets just throw people in jail for the hell of it, or because of how they voted or perhaps affiliation with political party which sounds like what you Marxists are trying to pull basic. Those human rights and freedoms which were agreed upon 250 + years ago dont apply nowadays? Why? Tell us.
As I've taught my American Govt. classes, at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today. Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt. classes, at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today. Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.
You do understand the bill of rights are a restriction on the government, not a document that gives us rights? If you are claiming there are two that are irrelevant, what is to stop government from declaring the 2nd as irrelevant? Or the 1st?
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt. classes, at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today. Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.
You would not have lasted very long as a teacher back 50 to 75 years ago. :lol:
Now I see why the young kid are so dammed mix up.
Quote from: walkstall on December 19, 2020, 03:31:32 PM
You would not have lasted very long as a teacher back 50 to 75 years ago. :lol:
Now I see why the young kid are so dammed mix up.
Yes, I agree, he/she is the reason that our children hate America, hate the Constitution and have a screwed up view of history. Our schools need less communism, less opinion and far more FACTS and TRUTH!
Quote from: walkstall on December 19, 2020, 03:31:32 PM
You would not have lasted very long as a teacher back 50 to 75 years ago. :lol:
Now I see why the young kid are so dammed mix up.
How is the amendment concerning quartering of troops (3rd) and the one regarding the right to a jury trial in federal lawsuits of more than 25 dollars (7th) remotely relevant today?
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt. classes, at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today. Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.
You should be fuckin fired for that kind of shit!!! :glare:
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 04:15:10 PM
How is the amendment concerning quartering of troops (3rd) and the one regarding the right to a jury trial in federal lawsuits of more than 25 dollars (7th) remotely relevant today?
Do you even have a clue as to why the Third even exists?
Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2020, 04:33:39 PM
Do you even have a clue as to why the Third even exists?
Because of the actions of British troops stationed in the American colonies prior to the Revolutionary War.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 05:19:14 PM
Because of the actions of British troops stationed in the American colonies prior to the Revolutionary War.
And do you even have a clue as to how that applies to today?
"We need a purge like they did in Russia" (c) Pop Daddy
This is a mistake, unfortunately, there was no cleansing of communism in Russia. There weren't, so was the trial of the Communist Party, which killed millions of people.
It was in Germany, after 1945, that the National Socialist Labor Party of Germany was banned, and some of its leaders were hanged by the neck.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt. classes, at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today. Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.
And this poster is brainwashing our youth.
Quote from: Solar on December 19, 2020, 05:29:31 PM
And do you even have a clue as to how that applies to today?
About the only scenario I can come up with would be when National Guard troops are deployed to a disaster area and need emergency lodging. Since a disaster area is not a "time of war" they still can't simply take room and board from civilians. But even these instances would be extremely rare at worst.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 05:43:06 AM
About the only scenario I can come up with would be when National Guard troops are deployed to a disaster area and need emergency lodging. Since a disaster area is not a "time of war" they still can't simply take room and board from civilians. But even these instances would be extremely rare at worst.
I would still like to see the examples where the constitution was " "very vaguely" written." So far you would eliminate the 3rd and 7th. You would allow "common sense" to overturn the 2nd. Anything else?
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 05:43:06 AM
About the only scenario I can come up with would be when National Guard troops are deployed to a disaster area and need emergency lodging. Since a disaster area is not a "time of war" they still can't simply take room and board from civilians. But even these instances would be extremely rare at worst.
My friend you are not fooling thinking folks. Maybe a portion of the Constitution may not be applied today it is part of a wonderful document. To remove parts of it would be the "camel's nose under the tent". It would open the door to removing parts leftists desire to remove, like the 2nd amendment.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
As I've taught my American Govt. classes, at least two of the Bill of Rights are pretty much utterly irrelevant today. Like the 3rd and 7th Amendments.
Thats It? Thats the best you can do? Do you even understand why the 3rd exists? It is so the GOVT Cannot force you to support US troops in your home....meaning they have access to not only your home but your resources just as the American colonists who were FORCED to house the British officers experienced, they turned their private homes and small estates into military camps, "conscripted" their horses and livestock, tore down fences and used it for firewood, no one was free to come and go etc etc. So you think it is ok(or irrelevant) for the Govt OUR Govt to force you to lodge troops or Officers in your home or on your land AT YOUR EXPENSE, with all the indignaties to follow?
Newsflash You may get a taste of this in the coming months. Maybe then you'll figure it out.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 20, 2020, 05:56:52 AM
Thats It? Thats the best you can do? Do you even understand why the 3rd exists? It is so the GOVT Cannot force you to support US troops in your home....meaning they have access to not only your home but your resources just as the American colonists who were FORCED to house the British officers experienced, they turned their private homes and small estates into military camps, "conscripted" their horses and livestock, tore down fences and used it for firewood, no one was free to come and go etc etc. So you think it is ok(or irrelevant) for the Govt OUR Govt to force you to lodge troops or Officers in your home or on your land AT YOUR EXPENSE, with all the indignaties to follow?
Newsflash You may get a taste of this in the coming months. Maybe then you'll figure it out.
Don't count on it.
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 20, 2020, 05:26:54 AM
And this poster is brainwashing our youth.
He's but another soi boi left wing loon armed with an on-line degree in worthlessness ....
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 20, 2020, 05:54:23 AM
My friend you are not fooling thinking folks. Maybe a portion of the Constitution may not be applied today it is part of a wonderful document. To remove parts of it would be the "camel's nose under the tent". It would open the door to removing parts leftists desire to remove, like the 2nd amendment.
I've said absolutely nothing about removing parts of the U.S. Constitution. I simply said the 3rd and 7th Amendments were irrelevant.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 20, 2020, 05:56:52 AM
Thats It? Thats the best you can do? Do you even understand why the 3rd exists? It is so the GOVT Cannot force you to support US troops in your home....meaning they have access to not only your home but your resources just as the American colonists who were FORCED to house the British officers experienced,
That's what I said.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 05:43:06 AM
About the only scenario I can come up with would be when National Guard troops are deployed to a disaster area and need emergency lodging. Since a disaster area is not a "time of war" they still can't simply take room and board from civilians. But even these instances would be extremely rare at worst.
Just think if the Marxists were to gain power. Do you think for one second they wouldn't trample the Third?
At this point citizens would be in their Right to apply the 2nd across the land! In turn, replacing the govt.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 07:13:03 AM
I've said absolutely nothing about removing parts of the U.S. Constitution. I simply said the 3rd and 7th Amendments were irrelevant.
you also said the constitution was "very vaguely" written. Where?
Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 07:31:54 AM
Just think if the Marxists were to gain power. Do you think for one second they wouldn't trample the Third?
At this point citizens would be in their Right to apply the 2nd across the land! In turn, replacing the govt.
Yeah I can see some Egomanical Constitutional Rapist like Witmer ordering the National guard billeted in your home over WU-Flu, making sure you stay 6 feet apart and wear a mask
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 20, 2020, 08:24:27 AM
Yeah I can see some Egomanical Constitutional Rapist like Witmer ordering the National guard billeted in your home over WU-Flu, making sure you stay 6 feet apart and wear a mask
BINGO!!!!
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 19, 2020, 08:36:12 PM
"We need a purge like they did in Russia" (c) Pop Daddy
This is a mistake, unfortunately, there was no cleansing of communism in Russia. There weren't, so was the trial of the Communist Party, which killed millions of people.
It was in Germany, after 1945, that the National Socialist Labor Party of Germany was banned, and some of its leaders were hanged by the neck.
I would not like to see what happened in Russia, China or Germany again. The sentiment being something sooner or later will have to done to put the country back on conservative values. As we can see from our lib buddy Dayton3, if he really is a teacher, could be with his line of thinking when you look at the kids being pushed through the system, the purge was one way some others have tried to handle problems.
While honest hard working men and women get up and go to work each day, paying taxes that in turn go to pay leftist/marxist propagandists who have control of our children, our future. And to make matters worse the marxist want our kids as soon as they are weaned. Pre-school, day care, after school activities. Universal child care, from cradle to grave. You might recall the story of Julia that the muslim trotted out a few years back.
How bout we change the action from purge to a good old fashioned ass beating from a Dutch Uncle until the marxist understand we are done with them? And, no more govt. back student loans, no tenure. It's a win/win, get the marxist purged from teaching. No social engineering. Back to the 3 R's. A high school diploma would mean being fluent in English, and no more govt. funded "English as a second language" crap. Starting in first grade you speak English. Saved the best for last, kids must be able to identify the states on a map, name the capitols and have a general knowledge of the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence. Those courses will keep the marxist teachers too busy to indoctrinate our children, hopefully.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 20, 2020, 08:50:22 AM
I would not like to see what happened in Russia, China or Germany again. The sentiment being something sooner or later will have to done to put the country back on conservative values. As we can see from our lib buddy Dayton3, if he really is a teacher, could be with his line of thinking when you look at the kids being pushed through the system, the purge was one way some others have tried to handle problems.
While honest hard working men and women get up and go to work each day, paying taxes that in turn go to pay leftist/marxist propagandists who have control of our children, our future. And to make matters worse the marxist want our kids as soon as they are weaned. Pre-school, day care, after school activities. Universal child care, from cradle to grave. You might recall the story of Julia that the muslim trotted out a few years back.
Thanks to Pop Daddy for the detailed answer, but questions still remain.
For example, what exactly is Conservatism.
For example, I consider myself a conservative, while I have a special opinion about abortion, gay marriage and religion.
I support the possibility of women to have abortions up to 3 months of pregnancy without explanation, and up to 6 months for medical reasons.
I support the possibility of homosexuals and lesbians to form permanent legal family units.
I support the ability of gays and lesbians to adopt children.
I support the right of all people to divorce.
I support the possibility of all people to have or not to have religious views.
But all of the above, should be within the framework of the Constitution.
Now the question is, how many members of the Forum can consider me a conservative?
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 09:27:44 AM
Thanks to Pop Daddy for the detailed answer, but questions still remain.
For example, what exactly is Conservatism.
For example, I consider myself a conservative, while I have a special opinion about abortion, gay marriage and religion.
I support the possibility of women to have abortions up to 3 months of pregnancy without explanation, and up to 6 months for medical reasons.
I support the possibility of homosexuals and lesbians to form permanent legal family units.
I support the ability of gays and lesbians to adopt children.
I support the right of all people to divorce.
I support the possibility of all people to have or not to have religious views.
But all of the above, should be within the framework of the Constitution.
Now the question is, how many members of the Forum can consider me a conservative?
Consider it in this context.
https://conservativehardliner.com/what-is-conservatism
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 19, 2020, 08:10:26 AM
I really don't understand you people here.
What do you think of trumps tax cuts?
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 09:27:44 AM
Thanks to Pop Daddy for the detailed answer, but questions still remain.
For example, what exactly is Conservatism.
For example, I consider myself a conservative, while I have a special opinion about abortion, gay marriage and religion.
I support the possibility of women to have abortions up to 3 months of pregnancy without explanation, and up to 6 months for medical reasons.
I support the possibility of homosexuals and lesbians to form permanent legal family units.
I support the ability of gays and lesbians to adopt children.
I support the right of all people to divorce.
I support the possibility of all people to have or not to have religious views.
But all of the above, should be within the framework of the Constitution.
Now the question is, how many members of the Forum can consider me a conservative?
Unlike liberalism, Conservatism is not an ideology, it is a way of life centered on three tenets: life, liberty and the pursuit of property...
Your views on abortion are incompatible with that way of life....as life is a human right, of all humans, everywhere....
Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 10:05:20 AM
Your views on abortion are incompatible with that way of life....as life is a human right, of all humans, everywhere....
Yes I know. But when abortion was banned in Ireland, thousands of women died from illegal abortions. But these women are also humans life.
When you think about something, always try to think about it from all sides.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 10:29:27 AM
Yes I know. But when abortion was banned in Ireland, thousands of women died from illegal abortions. But these women are also humans life.
When you think about something, always try to think about it from all sides.
Even after looking at all sides does not make it right.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 20, 2020, 08:50:22 AM
I would not like to see what happened in Russia, China or Germany again. The sentiment being something sooner or later will have to done to put the country back on conservative values. As we can see from our lib buddy Dayton3,
I'm not a liberal by any stretch of the definition you idiot.
Quote from: T Hunt on December 20, 2020, 10:03:11 AM
What do you think of trumps tax cuts?
Seemed like a good idea to me. Of course I'm generally against income taxes anyway.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 10:29:27 AM
Yes I know. But when abortion was banned in Ireland, thousands of women died from illegal abortions. But these women are also humans life.
When you think about something, always try to think about it from all sides.
No, those women are evil butchers and murderers....
When you think about something, think of it from the perspective of the individual....
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 10:46:31 AM
I'm not a liberal by any stretch of the definition you idiot.
You are a flaming left wing nut job socialist.....
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 10:29:27 AM
Yes I know. But when abortion was banned in Ireland, thousands of women died from illegal abortions. But these women are also humans life.
When you think about something, always try to think about it from all sides.
Conservatism is about preserving culture that's been proven over millennia to work. Mental illness should never be an excuse for people to raise children.
Think about it, they already go against the laws of nature, (the very law our society was Founded upon) so why should they be allowed to continue the destruction of a working society.
Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 10:47:43 AM
No, those women are evil butchers and murderers....
When you think about something, think of it from the perspective of the individual....
Yeah, it's not birth control, it's lack of self control. They can learn to keep their damn legs closed.
Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 09:56:15 AM
Consider it in this context.
Well, yes, general reasoning on the topic, with an anonymous author. :blink:
Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 10:47:43 AM
No, those women are evil butchers and murderers....
Don't you burn witches?
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:03:09 AM
Don't you burn witches?
No, but we execute murderers....especially ones who commit premeditated murder......
Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 10:55:11 AM
Yeah, it's not birth control, it's lack of self control. They can learn to keep their damn legs closed.
It is minorities that the Democrats claim to love and they are disproportionately the recipients of murder (abortion). Let that sink in!
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:00:24 AM
Well, yes, general reasoning on the topic, with an anonymous author. :blink:
I'm the author!
Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 10:53:29 AM
Conservatism is about preserving culture that's been proven over millennia to work. Mental illness should never be an excuse for people to raise children.
Think about it, they already go against the laws of nature, (the very law our society was Founded upon) so why should they be allowed to continue the destruction of a working society.
Yes, there was a "punitive" psychiatry in the USSR. Most of the freethinkers became patients in closed hospitals for the mentally ill.
Homosexuals, thieves, murderers and other evil spirits, come from normal families of ordinary people.
This means that this trait is not inherited.
Quote from: RV on December 20, 2020, 11:05:19 AM
It is minorities that the Democrats claim to love and they are disproportionately the recipients of murder (abortion). Let that sink in!
They're racists, always have been. They're just carrying on the legacy of Margaret Sanger.
Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 11:07:29 AM
I'm the author!
This means that your personal opinion is against my personal opinion.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:11:23 AM
This means that your personal opinion is against my personal opinion.
Wrong! I simply took the ideas of former great Americans, the ideals created by our Founders, the men who created this Great Nation.
Go ahead, take an excerpt and search it out, you'll find these are the very ideals that this country was founded upon.
How many abortion women have you killed? :scared:
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:23:15 AM
How many abortion women have you killed? :scared:
You mean pre-meditated murderers? Lots....
They get their due process and their peers decide their fate...unlike baby humans, who have no due process under fascist democrats....
Do we have the right, as people who have chosen freedom for themselves, to impose our opinion on women who find themselves in undesirable circumstances?
As I understand it, this is precisely what free people differ from socialists - free will within the framework of the Constitution?
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:49:29 AM
Do we have the right, as people who have chosen freedom for themselves, to impose our opinion on women who find themselves in undesirable circumstances?
As I understand it, this is precisely what free people differ from socialists - free will within the framework of the Constitution?
Freedom is a right of all humans....including babies....irrespective of the Constitution.
However, no one is free from the consequences of their decisions....no one, including a pregnant woman, has the right to force their opinions onto others.....
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:49:29 AM
Do we have the right, as people who have chosen freedom for themselves, to impose our opinion on women who find themselves in undesirable circumstances?
As I understand it, this is precisely what free people differ from socialists - free will within the framework of the Constitution?
There's a part of the Constitution you're ignoring. The Right to
Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness. No one has the Right to take life, but more importantly, no one has the Right to taxpayer dollars to pay for their need to murder.
Now do you get it?
The U.S. Constitution does not supersede the Ten Commandments....God and then Country.
#6 Thou shalt not kill.
The sanctity of life especially of an unborn baby supersedes politics and opinion.
Quote from: yrunvs on December 20, 2020, 12:11:10 PM
The U.S. Constitution does not supersede the Ten Commandments....God and then Country.
#6 Thou shalt not kill.
The sanctity of life especially of an unborn baby supersedes politics and opinion.
Your point? Our laws of the Constitution is based on Judeo Christian values.
Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 11:55:54 AM
Freedom is a right of all humans....including babies....irrespective of the Constitution.
However, no one is free from the consequences of their decisions....no one, including a pregnant woman, has the right to force their opinions onto others.....
100% agreed
Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 12:20:07 PM
Your point? Our laws of the Constitution is based on Judeo Christian values.
What would you know of "christian values"? You support a lying, cowardly, adulterous, thief.
www.reclaimingjesus.org
"THEREFORE, WE REJECT the resurgence of white nationalism and racism in our nation on many fronts, including the highest levels of political leadership. We, as followers of Jesus, must clearly reject the use of racial bigotry for political gain that we have seen. In the face of such bigotry, silence is complicity. In particular, we reject white supremacy and commit ourselves to help dismantle the systems and structures that perpetuate white preference and advantage. Further, any doctrines or political strategies that use racist resentments, fears, or language must be named as public sin—one that goes back to the foundation of our nation and lingers on. Racial bigotry must be antithetical for those belonging to the body of Christ, because it denies the truth of the gospel we profess."
"THEREFORE, WE REJECT the language and policies of political leaders who would debase and abandon the most vulnerable children of God. We strongly deplore the growing attacks on immigrants and refugees, who are being made into cultural and political targets, and we need to remind our churches that God makes the treatment of the "strangers" among us a test of faith (Leviticus 19:33-34). We won't accept the neglect of the well-being of low-income families and children, and we will resist repeated attempts to deny health care to those who most need it. We confess our growing national sin of putting the rich over the poor. We reject the immoral logic of cutting services and programs for the poor while cutting taxes for the rich. Budgets are moral documents. We commit ourselves to opposing and reversing those policies and finding solutions that reflect the wisdom of people from different political parties and philosophies to seek the common good. Protecting the poor is a central commitment of Christian discipleship, to which 2,000 verses in the Bible attest."
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 02:03:45 PM
What would you know of "christian values"? You support a lying, cowardly, adulterous, thief.
www.reclaimingjesus.org
Um...I don't think he voted for your Jim Crow Joe...:lol:
Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 12:20:07 PM
Your point? Our laws of the Constitution is based on Judeo Christian values.
Judeo Christian values, it is an artificial construction. Rather, we can talk about Judeo-Muslim values, since Islam is much closer to the Judean faith (although much simpler) than Christianity, which denies the main concept of the Judean religion, unquestioning Monotheism.
According to Christian dogma, Jesus of Nazareth was the son of God, later taken to heaven.
But there were a dime a dozen of such demi-gods, demi-humans in the Elin tradition.
And most of them were eventually taken to heaven and were joined to the host of the gods.
It was with this that Judaism did not agree, claiming that God is One.
Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 02:05:22 PM
Um...I don't think he voted for your Jim Crow Joe...:lol:
He still thinks Robert Byrd was a traitor to the cause. :biggrin:
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
Judeo Christian values, it is an artificial construction. Rather, we can talk about Judeo-Muslim values, since Islam is much closer to the Judean faith (although much simpler) than Christianity, which denies the main concept of the Judean religion, unquestioning Monotheism.
But there were a dime a dozen of such demi-gods, demi-humans in the Elin tradition.
And most of them were eventually taken to heaven and were joined to the host of the gods.
apparently i missed that in history class. Or religion class... got a link for that? I won't hold my breath.
Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 02:05:22 PM
Um...I don't think he voted for your Jim Crow Joe...:lol:
He did vote for one that does not believe in Christ, or Christian values like not bearing false witness.
And BTW, since Biden did apologize for his vote in 1994, what other source do liars like you have for your contention that Biden supports Jim Crow laws? We do know that every Republican State has tried to enforce them.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
He did vote for one that does not believe in Christ, or Christian values like not bearing false witness.
And BTW, since Biden did apologize for his vote in 1994, what other source do liars like you have for your contention that Biden supports Jim Crow laws? We do know that every Republican State has tried to enforce them.
No, I'm 100% sure he didn't vote for your China Joe.....:lol:
Quote from: Calypso Jones on December 20, 2020, 02:11:01 PM
apparently i missed that in history class. Or religion class... got a link for that? I won't hold my breath.
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of dem-gods in Greek history?
Hercules was the son of a god (Zeus) and a mortal woman. At the end of his life, he went to the fire (self-sacrifice) and was numbered among the gods
Tell me who is this story written about?
God seduces his mother in the form of a bird. Nevertheless, his earthly father recognizes him as his son. In early childhood, he has to endure many trials. During his earthly life, he performs many miracles. At the end of his life, he sacrifices himself and becomes a god.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
He did vote for one that does not believe in Christ, or Christian values like not bearing false witness.
And BTW, since Biden did apologize for his vote in 1994, what other source do liars like you have for your contention that Biden supports Jim Crow laws? We do know that every Republican State has tried to enforce them.
Just more proof the idiot lacks core values, just like you!
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 16, 2020, 03:19:36 PM
A break up is the worst thing we could do, that is what the hostile powers want. They ravage us or we'd end up fighting each other in a civil war, again outside forces pick the Marxist States of America.
Listen, the Left only control major cities in the USA, not the countryside and NOT THE RESOURCE AREA"S, the USA is center right and it will stay that way no matter what.
If America were a "center right" country like you suggest, then I would have to conclude your definition of "center - right" is different than mine. What continues to transpire through the actions of America's " center-right" is nothing; no huge protest, no defense of business, no mass defiance of the Covid authoritarians, no bearing of arms.. What that vast pool of "center-right" believes in is talking the walking and waiting for Republican leadership and/or SCOTUS to make freedom happen. There's only one way Americans will revive that great Republic she once was. Put the fear of "We the people" back in the minds of those who work for us. The sooner we do this, the lesser the chance of having to fight a civil war though that window may very well have closed already.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
And BTW, since Biden did apologize for his vote in 1994, what other source do liars like you have for your contention that Biden supports Jim Crow laws? We do know that every Republican State has tried to enforce them.
After the defeat in the Civil War, the Democrats of the South had to admit that black people have the same superiority as white people. Then the Democrats organized themselves into the KKK.
But later, the Democrats came to power in the South of the United States, and in those states where the Democrats came, laws on racial segregation were introduced, which were canceled only in the early 70s of the 20th century.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
He did vote for one that does not believe in Christ, or Christian values like not bearing false witness.
And BTW, since Biden did apologize for his vote in 1994, what other source do liars like you have for your contention that Biden supports Jim Crow laws? We do know that every Republican State has tried to enforce them.
You do not live in the south, otherwise you wouldn't say such a stupid thing. Biden only did what he had to do to continue his whoring. The Dixie Dems only gave up slavery when it became illegal. Otherwise it would still be going strong in the south. I know, I've been there and have very close friends there. The South will rise again is not something they just say.
Name one republican state that has tried to enforce some sort of Jim Crow crap. That's the democraps thing. Same with the KKK. All democraps. Planned Parenthood, democraps.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 20, 2020, 05:27:24 PM
You do not live in the south, otherwise you wouldn't say such a stupid thing. Biden only did what he had to do to continue his whoring. The Dixie Dems only gave up slavery when it became illegal. Otherwise it would still be going strong in the south. I know, I've been there and have very close friends there. The South will rise again is not something they just say.
Name one republican state that has tried to enforce some sort of Jim Crow crap. That's the democraps thing. Same with the KKK. All democraps. Planned Parenthood, democraps.
Even in this day and age of information, democrats still don't know they are of the kkk.....
Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 05:34:02 PM
Even in this day and age of information, democrats still don't know they are of the kkk.....
In all fairness, there have been at least three very distinct and very different incarnations of the KKK. I taught an extensive unit on them in World History class.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 05:51:29 PM
In all fairness, there have been at least three very distinct and very different incarnations of the KKK. I taught an extensive unit on them in World History class.
Now they are going to say you are admitted supporter and member of the kkk.
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 20, 2020, 06:00:19 PM
Now they are going to say you are admitted supporter and member of the kkk.
At one of the schools I started at (largely black students) one of my white students started the rumor (mainly as a joke) that I was the head of the KKK in my state. Took forever to squash.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 06:03:26 PM
At one of the schools I started at (largely black students) one of my white students started the rumor (mainly as a joke) that I was the head of the KKK in my state. Took forever to squash.
You're digging the hole deeper. Now they will claim proof because you were outed by one of your own students as a supporter and member of the kkk.
Quote from: WMK on December 20, 2020, 02:32:08 PM
If America were a "center right" country like you suggest, then I would have to conclude your definition of "center - right" is different than mine. What continues to transpire through the actions of America's " center-right" is nothing; no huge protest, no defense of business, no mass defiance of the Covid authoritarians, no bearing of arms.. What that vast pool of "center-right" believes in is talking the walking and waiting for Republican leadership and/or SCOTUS to make freedom happen. There's only one way Americans will revive that great Republic she once was. Put the fear of "We the people" back in the minds of those who work for us. The sooner we do this, the lesser the chance of having to fight a civil war though that window may very well have closed already.
It certainly is. People who are center right don't have time to engage in protest and wholesale defiance or agitate for change through violent action....those are all hall marks of the left. Most people in this country are center right because they get up in the morning and go to work, take care of their kids, maintain their homes, go about their business peacfully and no we don't wait for freedom to happen WE LIVE IT. I do what ever the hell I want which is nothing illegal
I'll tell you something else, it does't matter who is in the whitehouse or House of Representatives it matters what happens in YOUR HOUSE.
Im going to keep doing what I do just like I did when the Kenyan prince was in the WH or When Trump moved in. I don't mess with anyone ad no one messes with me.
The day someone is foolish enough to come into my house or on my land and tell me or force me different is the day everything changes.
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 20, 2020, 06:05:50 PM
You're digging the hole deeper. Now they will claim proof because you were outed by one of your own students as a supporter and member of the kkk.
Shut the fuck up troll! No one here thinks he's even remotely connected to the Klan. And we don't think he has a racist bone in his body, only leftists like you, holding onto your white liberal guilt lie and claim you want to help minorities while you support the Margaret Sanger cult!
Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 06:14:30 PM
Shut the fuck up troll! No one here thinks he's even remotely connected to the Klan. And we don't think he has a racist bone in his body, only leftists like you, holding onto your white liberal guilt lie and claim you want to help minorities while you support the Margaret Sanger cult!
Alright, good to know that neither you, nor any other member will claim he is a klan member based on those posts.
Many Democrats (and Republicans, too) are very surprised to learn that there were a number of Negro slave owners in the US South. Moreover, the first legal (court-approved) slave owner in the United States was a black gentleman from Africa. :ttoung:
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 06:50:59 PM
Many Democrats (and Republicans, too) are very surprised to learn that there were a number of Negro slave owners in the US South. Moreover, the first legal (court-approved) slave owner in the United States was a black gentleman from Africa. :ttoung:
Interesting bit of info. I did not know that. It's partly why I enjoy this place...
Although, indentured servitude and chattel slavery are different from eachother in many very important ways, and the racism of that day was still evident in court rulings...
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/horrible-fate-john-casor-180962352/
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 02:03:45 PM
What would you know of "christian values"? You support a lying, cowardly, adulterous, thief.
www.reclaimingjesus.org
"THEREFORE, WE REJECT the resurgence of white nationalism and racism in our nation on many fronts, including the highest levels of political leadership. We, as followers of Jesus, must clearly reject the use of racial bigotry for political gain that we have seen. In the face of such bigotry, silence is complicity. In particular, we reject white supremacy and commit ourselves to help dismantle the systems and structures that perpetuate white preference and advantage. Further, any doctrines or political strategies that use racist resentments, fears, or language must be named as public sin—one that goes back to the foundation of our nation and lingers on. Racial bigotry must be antithetical for those belonging to the body of Christ, because it denies the truth of the gospel we profess."
"THEREFORE, WE REJECT the language and policies of political leaders who would debase and abandon the most vulnerable children of God. We strongly deplore the growing attacks on immigrants and refugees, who are being made into cultural and political targets, and we need to remind our churches that God makes the treatment of the "strangers" among us a test of faith (Leviticus 19:33-34). We won't accept the neglect of the well-being of low-income families and children, and we will resist repeated attempts to deny health care to those who most need it. We confess our growing national sin of putting the rich over the poor. We reject the immoral logic of cutting services and programs for the poor while cutting taxes for the rich. Budgets are moral documents. We commit ourselves to opposing and reversing those policies and finding solutions that reflect the wisdom of people from different political parties and philosophies to seek the common good. Protecting the poor is a central commitment of Christian discipleship, to which 2,000 verses in the Bible attest."
Why cant you prove that white nationalists are bad?
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 20, 2020, 07:03:28 PM
and the racism of that day was still evident in court rulings...
Yes, Obama has tainted our country with systemic racism. We will never forget it.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of dem-gods in Greek history?
Hercules was the son of a god (Zeus) and a mortal woman. At the end of his life, he went to the fire (self-sacrifice) and was numbered among the gods
Tell me who is this story written about?
God seduces his mother in the form of a bird. Nevertheless, his earthly father recognizes him as his son. In early childhood, he has to endure many trials. During his earthly life, he performs many miracles. At the end of his life, he sacrifices himself and becomes a god.
Nothing you just wrote has anything to do with the bible. Sounds like common paganism, not Christianity. Apples and oranges. The God of the Bible is unique among deities, just as Christianity is unique among religions.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 02:36:45 PM
After the defeat in the Civil War, the Democrats of the South had to admit that black people have the same superiority as white people. Then the Democrats organized themselves into the KKK.
But later, the Democrats came to power in the South of the United States, and in those states where the Democrats came, laws on racial segregation were introduced, which were canceled only in the early 70s of the 20th century.
By the republicans, who passed civil rights laws. The left has always been racist.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 05:51:29 PM
In all fairness, there have been at least three very distinct and very different incarnations of the KKK. I taught an extensive unit on them in World History class.
And all were leftist and racist. Racism isnt part of the conservative philosophy the way it is part of the left wing philosophy.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 20, 2020, 07:03:28 PM
Interesting bit of info. I did not know that. It's partly why I enjoy this place...
Although, indentured servitude and chattel slavery are different from eachother in many very important ways, and the racism of that day was still evident in court rulings...
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/horrible-fate-john-casor-180962352/
Dont forget, the irish were slaves too and in many ways treated worse as they were worth less since they didnt have to travel as far and were already culturally assimilated.
Quote from: T Hunt on December 20, 2020, 07:33:52 PM
Nothing you just wrote has anything to do with the bible. Sounds like common paganism, not Christianity. Apples and oranges. The God of the Bible is unique among deities, just as Christianity is unique among religions.
Well yes! I wrote about the life of Hercules. This is the story of his life.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 07:32:36 PM
Yes, Obama has tainted our country with systemic racism. We will never forget it.
Racist liars like you never do.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 08:28:31 PM
Racist liars like you never do.
Your exclamation does not make Barack Hussein Obama and his ugly wife good people.
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 20, 2020, 06:00:19 PM
Now they are going to say you are admitted supporter and member of the kkk.
Aren't all democrats....it's who they are...
Countries of the world that were or remain Socialist:
Soviet Union (split into 15 independent capitalist countries.). Mongolia. China. North Korea. Vietnam. Kampuchea. Chile. Venezuela. Cuba. GDR. Romania. Hungary. Bulgaria. Poland. Albania. Yugoslavia (split into 7 independent capitalist countries). Angola.
Of all this geography, only China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam and North Korea remained formally socialist. The rest of the countries fled in horror and embarked on a more or less normal, capitalist path of development.
The socialist liars assure us that the beautiful countries Sweden and Norway are also socialist countries. Do not believe the socialists, they will never speak the words of truth. Sweden and Norway, kingdoms in general. Monarchies. As well as Great Britain, Japan, Spain and Monaco.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 21, 2020, 11:37:47 AM
Countries of the world that were or remain Socialist:
Soviet Union (split into 15 independent capitalist countries.). Mongolia. China. North Korea. Vietnam. Kampuchea. Chile. Venezuela. Cuba. GDR. Romania. Hungary. Bulgaria. Poland. Albania. Yugoslavia (split into 7 independent capitalist countries). Angola.
Of all this geography, only China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam and North Korea remained formally socialist. The rest of the countries fled in horror and embarked on a more or less normal, capitalist path of development.
The socialist liars assure us that the beautiful countries Sweden and Norway are also socialist countries. Do not believe the socialists, they will never speak the words of truth. Sweden and Norway, kingdoms in general. Monarchies. As well as Great Britain, Japan, Spain and Monaco.
Socialism and Capitalism are economic systems. Why compare them to Monarchies?
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 20, 2020, 07:03:28 PM
Interesting bit of info.
Why don't you know the history of your country?
And how dare you, ignoramus, express your opinion here if you know nothing?
Don't Feed the Troll, folks.
He is Episcopalian, or at least he is a follower of an Episcopal Bishop. They are supposed to Love their neighbors as they love themselves. Hypocrites.
So the pot calls the Kettle Black. No surprises. Typical Corruptocrat.
No, Dumbocrat, I don't think Trump is a perfect human, but neither am I and neither are your Phony Hind Parts. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.
But, Trump is a good President. No matter what you think, Hoss.
So, you guys don't believe in repentance or forgiveness, huh? Telling.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 21, 2020, 11:37:47 AM
Countries of the world that were or remain Socialist:
Soviet Union (split into 15 independent capitalist countries.). Mongolia. China. North Korea. Vietnam. Kampuchea. Chile. Venezuela. Cuba. GDR. Romania. Hungary. Bulgaria. Poland. Albania. Yugoslavia (split into 7 independent capitalist countries). Angola.
Of all this geography, only China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam and North Korea remained formally socialist. The rest of the countries fled in horror and embarked on a more or less normal, capitalist path of development.
Include Kampuchea (Khmer republic/Cambodia) in that mix, I would suggest any here read up on the "[
s]Prime Minister" DICTATOR Hun Sen and see how he handles his countries "Electios" thats what we have to look forward to should the Marxists DNC steal this election
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 21, 2020, 11:44:34 AM
Socialism and Capitalism are economic systems. Why compare them to Monarchies?
Capitalism and socialism are not only different economic systems, but also political ones.
Regarding the Scandinavian monarchies, which some underdeveloped socialists love to cite as an example, there, indeed, many social institutions were created for the citizens of the country, which, in the opinion of their governments, can help their citizens to live in the wealth.
But these countries are monarchies, with capitalist economic methods. They have nothing to do with socialism.
Quote from: T Hunt on December 20, 2020, 07:36:18 PM
And all were leftist and racist. Racism isnt part of the conservative philosophy the way it is part of the left wing philosophy.
Wrong. They were the conservatives of their day just as Jefferson with his "3/5ths. human" declaration was, and attempts by Republicans today to eliminate the voting rights of minorities are. Even the fact that the violations of the rights of immigrants is one of conservative "values"..
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 03:18:32 PM
Wrong. They were the conservatives of their day just as Jefferson with his "3/5ths. human" declaration was, and attempts by Republicans today to eliminate the voting rights of minorities are. Even the fact that the violations of the rights of immigrants is one of conservative "values"..
Do explain the 3/5ths human thingy democrat kalnsman...
Quote from: Owebo on December 21, 2020, 03:21:46 PM
Do explain the 3/5ths human thingy democrat kalnsman...
Really quite simple even for lower intellect individuals like you. Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution states: "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."/slaves. The Constitutional Convention addressed the apportionment in the House of Representatives and the number of electoral votes each state would have in presidential elections based on a state's population. The Southern states wanted to count the entire slave population. This would increase their number of members of Congress. The Northern delegates and others opposed to slavery wanted to count only free persons, including free blacks in the North and South. The "compromise", as it is called, minimizes the percentage of the slave population counted for apportionment and reduces the political power of slave states.
That is a basic explanation even one such as you should understand. And it legalized slavery as did many laws to follow.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 03:38:40 PM
Really quite simple even for lower intellect individuals like you. Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution states: "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."/slaves. The Constitutional Convention addressed the apportionment in the House of Representatives and the number of electoral votes each state would have in presidential elections based on a state's population. The Southern states wanted to count the entire slave population. This would increase their number of members of Congress. The Northern delegates and others opposed to slavery wanted to count only free persons, including free blacks in the North and South. The "compromise", as it is called, minimizes the percentage of the slave population counted for apportionment and reduces the political power of slave states.
That is a basic explanation even one such as you should understand. And it legalized slavery as did many laws to follow.
Oh, so conservatives made blacks 3/5ths more of a person than you liberals did....huh....
Didn't they start the Republican Party to give blacks the other 2/5ths and end your democrat slavery?
Quote from: Owebo on December 21, 2020, 03:41:20 PM
Oh, so conservatives made blacks 3/5ths more of a person than you liberals did....huh....
Didn't they start the Republican Party to give blacks the other 2/5ths and end your democrat slavery?
Next he is going to try and tell us LBJ was a republican. :lol:
Quote from: Possum on December 21, 2020, 03:49:19 PM
Next he is going to try and tell us LBJ was a republican. :lol:
Liberal Democrats will twist, lie, deny and scuttle truth to suit their purpose. So yes, if Democrats thought it would help their "cause" and that you would believe them, they WOULD try to claim that LBJ was a Republican. Democrats have attempted to brand Conservatives with the "White Supremacist" moniker even though the KKK was created, developed and is still supported BY DEMOCRATS AND THE DNC.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 03:18:32 PM
Wrong. They were the conservatives of their day just as Jefferson with his "3/5ths. human" declaration was, and attempts by Republicans today to eliminate the voting rights of minorities are. Even the fact that the violations of the rights of immigrants is one of conservative "values"..
You're stupid. The 3/5ths was a compromise, many didn't want to count slaves. This was a way to at least begin to get rid of slavery, which the republicans did. Of the 13 colonies all had to agree, the slavery issue was a big road block that had to be dealt with somehow. So the beginning of that process to end slavery began by giving them some standing.
Quote: Many of the Founding Fathers acknowledged that slavery violated the ideal of liberty that was so central to the American Revolution, but, because they were committed to the sanctity of private property rights, the principles of limited government, and the pursuit of intersectional harmony, they were unable to take bold action against slavery. Moreover, the Southern Founders' thoroughgoing embrace of slave-based agriculture and their deeply ingrained racial prejudice solidified the barriers against emancipation. That the Continental Congress removed Thomas Jefferson's statement regarding the injustice of the slave trade (and, by implication, slavery) from the final version of the Declaration of Independence is emblematic of the Founders' resolve to subordinate the controversial issue of slavery to the larger goal of securing the unity and independence of the United States.
What voting rights are being threatened. And which immigrants are you talking about. You really are stupid and I'm being nice.
Quote from: Owebo on December 21, 2020, 03:41:20 PM
Oh, so conservatives made blacks 3/5ths more of a person than you liberals did....huh....
Didn't they start the Republican Party to give blacks the other 2/5ths and end your democrat slavery?
If you were to study the history of the process beginning in Ripon, Wi., you would find that that was part of the objective., and it began with 6 Democrats, and 1, or 2, Independents. The main objective was to stop the spread of slavery to the Northern States. In any event, slave owners of that day were conservatives, not liberals.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:30:10 PM
I, personally, don't think we're a divided country.
None of the divisions portrayed on TV occur when I step outside of my house. Everyone seems to get along fine.
And all of the topics of discussion online are of no, or little concern to the average person.
Ignorance is bliss and that's why we get the piss poor elected officials that we do. Be sure to point to Trump in response because you are as predictable as yesterday's weather.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 08:51:02 PM
If you were to study the history of the process beginning in Ripon, Wi., you would find that that was part of the objective., and it began with 6 Democrats, and 1, or 2, Independents. The main objective was to stop the spread of slavery to the Northern States. In any event, slave owners of that day were conservatives, not liberals.
You democrats are still pissed we freed you slaves....:lol:
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 16, 2020, 04:30:10 PM
I, personally, don't think we're a divided country.
How dare you speak against the DNC order!
QuoteNone of the divisions portrayed on TV occur when I step outside of my house. Everyone seems to get along fine.
So you do agree, the left is trying to divide and conquer but failed miserably? Good for you...
QuoteAnd all of the topics of discussion online are of no, or little concern to the average person.
We are representative of the American movement Hell bent on taking out the Marxist party, so yeah, we matter!
Quote from: Solar on December 17, 2020, 05:43:25 AM
I assumed everyone knew what I meant. There are no such thing as actual blue states.
Logic would then tell a person tat there are no "Red States" since in every State there are pockets of both.
And in most, even blue states, 70-80 percent of counties are red.
But in one state, for example, NYC or Pennsylvania, in the red counties, the situation with patients with the Chinese virus is within the statistics, then in the blue counties and cities, the Demofascist authorities staged genocide for their citizens, such as in the city of NY, where the idiot Di Blasio ordered take people with coronavirus to nursing homes, when they infected the elderly, who died there in monstrous numbers.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 11:45:59 AM
Logic would then tell a person tat there are no "Red States" since in every State there are pockets of both.
There is one blue state, the rest are in essence a mix or red.
(https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/live_map_house.png?cache_bust=160866708)
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 11:59:39 AM
There is one blue state, the rest are in essence a mix or red.
(https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/live_map_house.png?cache_bust=160866708)
America is purple. The data proves that.
https://twitter.com/AdamMGrant/status/1324872885324935168/photo/1
(https://engaging-data.com/pages/scripts/d3Electoral/countyelection2.png)
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 03:18:32 PM
Wrong. They were the conservatives of their day just as Jefferson with his "3/5ths. human" declaration was, and attempts by Republicans today to eliminate the voting rights of minorities are. Even the fact that the violations of the rights of immigrants is one of conservative "values"..
AHAHAHA your lack of education is quite humorous.
Im sorry but the progressives of the past kept slaves and were democrats. Slavery is an institution of the past. Conservatives possess a timeless philosophy which looks towards the future but learns from the mistakes of the past like slavery.
Progressives embrace the tyranny of the past while conservatives embrace the freedom of the future. Educate yourself and try again.
Quote from: RV on December 21, 2020, 04:34:40 PM
Liberal Democrats will twist, lie, deny and scuttle truth to suit their purpose. So yes, if Democrats thought it would help their "cause" and that you would believe them, they WOULD try to claim that LBJ was a Republican. Democrats have attempted to brand Conservatives with the "White Supremacist" moniker even though the KKK was created, developed and is still supported BY DEMOCRATS AND THE DNC.
Dont forget, Nazis are socialists, which the left embraces. Hitler himself was inspired by the dem slaveowners in how to handle the jews.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 03:38:40 PM
Really quite simple even for lower intellect individuals like you. Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution states: "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."/slaves. The Constitutional Convention addressed the apportionment in the House of Representatives and the number of electoral votes each state would have in presidential elections based on a state's population. The Southern states wanted to count the entire slave population. This would increase their number of members of Congress. The Northern delegates and others opposed to slavery wanted to count only free persons, including free blacks in the North and South. The "compromise", as it is called, minimizes the percentage of the slave population counted for apportionment and reduces the political power of slave states.
That is a basic explanation even one such as you should understand. And it legalized slavery as did many laws to follow.
Your own quote proves the right was always trying to help the slaves, thanks.
Actually it has been well documented that the founders despised slavery as an institution and planned to do away with it. They were very moral people.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 08:51:02 PM
If you were to study the history of the process beginning in Ripon, Wi., you would find that that was part of the objective., and it began with 6 Democrats, and 1, or 2, Independents. The main objective was to stop the spread of slavery to the Northern States. In any event, slave owners of that day were conservatives, not liberals.
Then why did the dems support slavery if they were conservatives? No it just doesnt hold water. Conservatives have always hated slavery, while the progressives, like the southern dems, have embraced it.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 11:45:59 AM
Logic would then tell a person tat there are no "Red States" since in every State there are pockets of both.
Wrong once again. The red states have very little blue in them while the so called blue states are mostly red.
It wld be great if the blue states wld secede, cuz as soon as they did all their red counties wld secede from them, LOL all the left has are the major cities, nothing more.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 12:18:37 PM
America is purple. The data proves that.
https://twitter.com/AdamMGrant/status/1324872885324935168/photo/1
(https://engaging-data.com/pages/scripts/d3Electoral/countyelection2.png)
No thats actually quite misleading. By far most of the country is red. You are trying to fudge the numbers by framing it in terms of population, which is a moot point. Geography(resources) is what matters and most of america is hard red.
Quote from: T Hunt on December 22, 2020, 12:37:54 PM
Wrong once again. The red states have very little blue in them while the so called blue states are mostly red.
It wld be great if the blue states wld secede, cuz as soon as they did all their red counties wld secede from them, LOL all the left has are the major cities, nothing more.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I see you've met Old Socialist. Make sure you tape your hands because your knuckles will start bleeding soon...
Quote from: taxed on December 22, 2020, 12:40:20 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I see you've met Old Socialist. Make sure you tape your hands because your knuckles will start bleeding soon...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He sounds angry.
Quote from: T Hunt on December 22, 2020, 12:40:17 PM
No thats actually quite misleading. By far most of the country is red. You are trying to fudge the numbers by framing it in terms of population, which is a moot point. Geography(resources) is what matters and most of america is hard red.
Geography doesn't vote. People do. Every State has some red and blue voters and most States are purple. It is what it is.
Quote from: T Hunt on December 22, 2020, 12:41:18 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He sounds angry.
Very much so... all anger, no intellect.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 12:46:00 PM
Geography doesn't vote. People do. Every State has some red and blue voters and most States are purple. It is what it is.
If not for geography, you libs would starve to death, so yeah, T is correct!
Just because a bunch of leeches live in packed communities in no way makes them majority, it means we, Red States have more mouths to feed., :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 12:46:00 PM
Geography doesn't vote. People do. Every State has some red and blue voters and most States are purple. It is what it is.
Actually, most states are red....it is what it is...
Quote from: Owebo on December 22, 2020, 01:37:49 PM
Actually, most states are red....it is what it is...
Sure, if you eliminate half the population from America
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Sure, if you eliminate half the population from America
Wrong.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Sure, if you eliminate half the population from America
Did you even feel that you shoved the goal post up your ass?
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Sure, if you eliminate half the population from America
No, not necessary
But what is needed is to educate the population.
People should understand the real picture of what is happening in the country and in the world.
Me, at one time, re-read almost all of the American fiction of the 40-50-years. And gradually I realized that these respected writers were simply slandering the American people. That is, in fact, they deceived their readers.
Then the anti-American art of the 60-70s, in which the Americans who fought against communism were shown as bloodthirsty bandits, and the Vietnamese partisans as peace-loving doves.
People got their heads confused. They ceased to understand what is bad and what is good.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 22, 2020, 07:00:28 PM
Then the anti-American art of the 60-70s, in which the Americans who fought against communism were shown as bloodthirsty bandits[/size], and the Vietnamese partisans as peace-loving doves.
People got their heads confused. They ceased to understand what is bad and what is good.
Just setting aside the obvious lie, and trump is still the coward that would not serve and who denigrates true war heroes, it sounds like you still have your head up your ass.
But, what was good about the Vietnam conflict?
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 08:46:51 PM
Just setting aside the obvious lie, and trump is still the coward that would not serve and who denigrates true war heroes, it sounds like you still have your head up your ass.
But, what was good about the Vietnam conflict?
Trump is an American patriot. You're a jealous libtard.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 08:46:51 PM
Just setting aside the obvious lie, and trump is still the coward that would not serve and who denigrates true war heroes, it sounds like you still have your head up your ass.
But, what was good about the Vietnam conflict?
Why does it not surprise me that you'd enlist McStain as your chosen hero, a traitor to the party and the US. Your use of hi s record screams your lack of integrity!
Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2020, 05:23:11 AM
Why does it not surprise me that you'd enlist McStain as your chosen hero, a traitor to the party and the US. Your use of hi s record screams your lack of integrity!
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John McCain was overrated (though much better than the alternative in 2008) but how is he a traitor to the U.S.?
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 23, 2020, 05:32:01 AM
John McCain was overrated (though much better than the alternative in 2008) but how is he a traitor to the U.S.?
McStain never did what he campaigned on, he always lied to his constituency, backstabbed the country, aligned with terrorists in the M/E, leaked the dims phony dossier to the FBI in hopes of getting trump arrested.
Oh, remember when Bush demanded Congress send him a Bill for a border fence that McStain campaigned on for reelection? Then turned around and refused to fund it.
I could go on for pages how he betrayed the country, but he was taken out and probably living on a Govt island/installation with Epstein.
Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2020, 05:47:21 AM
McCain ... aligned with terrorists in the M/E,
I'm not sure what you are referring to here. I'm assuming your last sentence about him and Epstein is simple hyperbole on your part.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 23, 2020, 05:52:31 AM
I'm not sure what you are referring to here. I'm assuming your last sentence about him and Epstein is simple hyperbole on your part.
And no, I could never prove it, but the timing of his unexpected demise is beyond suspect, because just three days before he'd held a press conference stating he felt fine and had a lot of work to do before stepping down in retirement.
Everyone knew the dirt Trump had on the slime ball, and word is, Trump offered the Stain a way out, take the island or face prosecution while your family suffers in shame as they watch their own political careers collapse in shame as well.
Oh, and Epstein didn't kill himself, there's no actual evidence that he's even dead. The man is too valuable to let die, so his death was a ruse as they whisked him away to a secluded govt island, probably laughing it up with McStain.
Here's the Stain on his trip meeting with terrorists!
(https://thehayride.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/mccain-in-syria-2-detail-2.jpg)
I don't believe in most conspiracy theories. But in regards to the picture, what was the stated purpose of McCain meeting with those pictured?
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 23, 2020, 06:09:41 AM
I don't believe in most conspiracy theories. But in regards to the picture, what was the stated purpose of McCain meeting with those pictured?
Most likely the same "purpose" of Burisma putting Hunter Biden on their board of directors.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 23, 2020, 06:09:41 AM
I don't believe in most conspiracy theories. But in regards to the picture, what was the stated purpose of McCain meeting with those pictured?
He violated the Logan act and not one thing came of it.
Back in 2013, McCain traveled to Syria illegally where he met with terrorists backed by the United States and NATO, even taking pictures with terrorist leaders and some of the most bloodthirsty commanders of the invasion. McCain received virtually no criticism for his open violation of various American laws (including the ones he voted for). However, when U.S. Representative Tulsi Gabbard and former Rep. Dennis Kucinich met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad after having traveled to Syria in order to tour the country and see the realities of the destruction the war, both were ravaged in the press.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/john-mccain-illegally-travels-to-syria-meets-with-leaders-and-fighting-groups-no-criticism-from-msm/5576594
Do some research, this story is far worse than most could ever imagine. History tells us he did not have America's best interests at heart.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/court-files-reveal-role-of-mccain-aide-in-spreading-anti-trump-dossier
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 23, 2020, 06:09:41 AM
I don't believe in most conspiracy theories. But in regards to the picture, what was the stated purpose of McCain meeting with those pictured?
The more you learn about McCain, it will show his loyalties were more to the deep state and fame from the media than for the United States. Have to say it is a long list from the bushes, romney, obama, etc. The list knows no party.
Quote from: Possum on December 23, 2020, 07:04:20 AM
The more you learn about McCain, it will show his loyalties were more to the deep state and fame from the media than for the United States. Have to say it is a long list from the bushes, romney, obama, etc. The list knows no party.
Exactly, the cancer within needs to be killed. One only needs to look at the last 40 years to see the inroads the Marxists have made.
Only then can they understand the importance of Trump.
Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2020, 05:47:21 AM
McStain never did what he campaigned on, he always lied to his constituency, backstabbed the country, aligned with terrorists in the M/E, leaked the dims phony dossier to the FBI in hopes of getting trump arrested.
Oh, remember when Bush demanded Congress send him a Bill for a border fence that McStain campaigned on for reelection? Then turned around and refused to fund it.
I could go on for pages how he betrayed the country, but he was taken out and probably living on a Govt island/installation with Epstein.
And who can ever forget the thumbs down from mcstain to rid us of Obutthole care? I never will. It was the last chance to get rid of that piece of shit. mcstain campaigned on getting rid of the muslims big divider of a law, even after the Roberts court screwed us, and then the miserable piece of shit joined the marxist/socialist/democraps in voting to keep the law. If he's not with Epstein on an island somewhere, I hope he's roasting Hell over a really high heat.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 23, 2020, 07:40:57 AM
And who can ever forget the thumbs down from mcstain to rid us of Obutthole care? I never will. It was the last chance to get rid of that piece of shit. mcstain campaigned on getting rid of the muslims big divider of a law, even after the Roberts court screwed us, and then the miserable piece of shit joined the marxist/socialist/democraps in voting to keep the law. If he's not with Epstein on an island somewhere, I hope he's roasting Hell over a really high heat.
Remember the Bailout? Had he not pushed that shit, we would have seen one of the biggest readjustments to our financial system in history, and finally getting rid of the Establishment corruption.
That move was strictly a bailout for crony corporatists/Marxist/CCP investors. Americans suffered greatly for it! Hell is to good for the traitor.
Quote from: Possum on December 23, 2020, 07:04:20 AM
The more you learn about McCain, it will show his loyalties were more to the deep state and fame from the media than for the United States. Have to say it is a long list from the bushes, romney, obama, etc. The list knows no party.
Let us not forget he was one of the "Keating Five".
Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2020, 07:56:44 AM
Remember the Bailout? Had he not pushed that shit, we would have seen one of the biggest readjustments to our financial system in history, and finally getting rid of the Establishment corruption.
That move was strictly a bailout for crony corporatists/Marxist/CCP investors. Americans suffered greatly for it! Hell is to good for the traitor.
Just how good is your "memory":
https://www.tni.org/es/node/4084
And the trump "tax cut" for the wealthy was what?
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 10:50:09 AM
Just how good is your "memory":
https://www.tni.org/es/node/4084
And the trump "tax cut" for the wealthy was what?
It must suck to be poor like you....
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 10:50:09 AM
Just how good is your "memory":
https://www.tni.org/es/node/4084
And the trump "tax cut" for the wealthy was what?
A taxcut. Your point?
Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
A taxcut. Your point?
I understand your inability with your "christian standards" and all, how you fail to see that corporatism knows no boundaries be it by stimulus for the wealthy, or by tax cuts". And, as is your usual deficient moral values, the point of understanding the drive by your masters, the Republicunts, to take responsibility for their actions desiring as you do to blame everything on Democrats being the slavish peon you are.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
I understand your inability with your "christian standards" and all, how you fail to see that corporatism knows no boundaries be it by stimulus for the wealthy, or by tax cuts". And, as is your usual deficient moral values, the point of understanding the drive by your masters, the Republicunts, to take responsibility for their actions desiring as you do to blame everything on Democrats being the slavish peon you are.
You're socialists now....
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
I understand your inability with your "christian standards"
So I take it your values are those of Satan? :lol: :lol: :lol: What a dumb ass!
Quoteand all, how you fail to see that corporatism knows no boundaries be it by stimulus for the wealthy, or by tax cuts". And, as is your usual deficient moral values,
So now my values are deficient because they don't align with your belief that other peoples money somehow belongs to a govt that incessantly over spends?
You have one serious set of warped values!
Quotethe point of understanding the drive by your masters, the Republicunts, to take responsibility for their actions desiring as you do to blame everything on Democrats being the slavish peon you are.
Hey dumb ass, both party's SUCK Equally, yet you slave to the belief that somehow over taxing people is the right thing to do, you know, like the Marxist ideology of the DNC of "Spread The Wealth" by stealing OPM!
You really need to check yourself, stealing is wrong! But we all know you're hoping the DNC steals my money and gives it to you.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
I understand your inability with your "christian standards" and all, how you fail to see that corporatism knows no boundaries be it by stimulus for the wealthy, or by tax cuts". And, as is your usual deficient moral values, the point of understanding the drive by your masters, the Republicunts, to take responsibility for their actions desiring as you do to blame everything on Democrats being the slavish peon you are.
So you support the Demonazis? How far in elementary school did you go anyway?
Quote from: MichaelJ on December 23, 2020, 12:43:03 PM
So you support the Demonazis? How far in elementary school did you go anyway?
After 8 years of "Spetchal Ed", they asked him to leave and never come back.
Quote from: MichaelJ on December 23, 2020, 12:43:03 PM
So you support the Demonazis? How far in elementary school did you go anyway?
What rule under Alinsky is ridicule recommended? It is really sad that the cowards cannot even enter a debate with anything close to reality.
Can a cowardly fool like you try?
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 10:50:09 AM
Just how good is your "memory":
https://www.tni.org/es/node/4084
And the trump "tax cut" for the wealthy was what?
AHAHAHA isnt it funny that all you ever post to support your bubble reality is known and proven communist propaganda? Try credible sources for once.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
I understand your inability with your "christian standards" and all, how you fail to see that corporatism knows no boundaries be it by stimulus for the wealthy, or by tax cuts". And, as is your usual deficient moral values, the point of understanding the drive by your masters, the Republicunts, to take responsibility for their actions desiring as you do to blame everything on Democrats being the slavish peon you are.
Dont get mad, calm down. Tax cuts are very christian as it is not right to steal, even if its the gvt stealing from rich people. Also dont forget, all that money trickles down to the poor since trickle down economics has been scientifically proven. So in the end the GOP are the good guys for passing tax cuts and the dems are the bad guys for trying to tax businesses.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 24, 2020, 09:20:05 PM
What rule under Alinsky is ridicule recommended? It is really sad that the cowards cannot even enter a debate with anything close to reality.
Can a cowardly fool like you try?
Its in there, dont worry. Saul alinsky absolutely encouraged ridicule as a weapon. Yes it is sad that a you are a coward simply because of the false reality you live in. Try again, cowardly fool.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
I understand your inability with your "christian standards" and all, how you fail to see that corporatism knows no boundaries be it by stimulus for the wealthy, or by tax cuts". And, as is your usual deficient moral values, the point of understanding the drive by your masters, the Republicunts, to take responsibility for their actions desiring as you do to blame everything on Democrats being the slavish peon you are.
I am guessing you have recently had your meds changed. Do you remember? Do you remember being taken to a building where there were people walking around wearing white lab coats? Maybe you are not taking the meds as prescribed? I'm concerned. Good friends might describe you as a little forgetful at times. Do you recall times where you arrived in Canada or Cuba to see some of those nice guys in the white lab coats?
Doesn't matter, we are here to help. Next time you are in one of those buildings, ask one of the guys in white lab coats if maybe you suffer from Lewy Body Dementia, LBD. Many confuse your symptoms for Alzheimer's Disease and LBD is underdiagnosed.
During your next lucid moment stop and think about this, do you have any of these symptoms; physical symptoms such as tremor, motor problems, and balance issues? cognitive issues and memory problems?
neuropsychiatric symptoms such as hallucinations, behavioral problems, and difficulty with complex mental tasks? variations in alertness and attention? how many animals can you name in 60 seconds?
No matter how it starts, LBD eventually leads to a similar set of physical, cognitive, and behavioral symptoms. These include: cognitive issues, such as trouble processing information and planning, visual and spatial problems, irritability or agitation, hallucinations that are very well formed and detailed, or delusions, anxiety or paranoia, sleep disorders, including acting out dreams while asleep, daytime sleepiness or the need to nap, staring, inability to pay attention, or fluctuating attention span, disorganized speech?
LBD can also affect the autonomic nervous system. This can lead to poor regulation of: digestive functions, excessive sweating, bowel and bladder problems, dizziness, which can increase the risk of falling.
What is clear is that people with LBD have abnormal clusters of proteins, called Lewy bodies, in their brains and Lewy bodies disrupt brain function.
Sadly, there is no cure for LBD. Should someone ask what's wrong with you Trapper, explain you're a marxist/socialist/democrap party loyalist. HIPPA laws will protect you from providing any further explanation.
We are willing to help you Old Trapper, so might I suggest you try; For thinking and memory problems, as well as behavior problems and hallucinations:
donepezil (Namzaric)
galantamine (Razadine)
rivastigmine (Exelon)
Maybe mental health counseling: This can help both the person with LBD and their family learn to cope with their emotions and behaviors.
As I said, sorry, no cure for LBD, but here's something to help until that final day arrives and you join your fellow travelers in Satan's Subterranean Paradise; Art and music therapy: This may help ease anxiety and improve mood. Pet therapy: A pet can provide companionship and boost mood. Aromatherapy: This can help calm and soothe.
OK, I know this was a lot for you, and I'll leave you with this: See your own doctor when you start to feel out of whack.
Caregiver burnout is all too real. It doesn't mean you've failed, it only means you're stretching yourself too thin. You might find it helpful to join a caregiver support group so you can interact with people who get it. If you start to feel emotionally or physically drained, consider speaking to a therapist.
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Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 25, 2020, 10:35:08 AM
I am guessing you have recently had your meds changed.
Kaczynski, David Berkowitz, Jim Jones etc, thought they were the normal ones too.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 25, 2020, 10:35:08 AM
I am guessing you have recently had your meds changed. Do you remember? Do you remember being taken to a building where there were people walking around wearing white lab coats? Maybe you are not taking the meds as prescribed? I'm concerned. Good friends might describe you as a little forgetful at times. Do you recall times where you arrived in Canada or Cuba to see some of those nice guys in the white lab coats?
Doesn't matter, we are here to help. Next time you are in one of those buildings, ask one of the guys in white lab coats if maybe you suffer from Lewy Body Dementia, LBD. Many confuse your symptoms for Alzheimer's Disease and LBD is underdiagnosed.
During your next lucid moment stop and think about this, do you have any of these symptoms; physical symptoms such as tremor, motor problems, and balance issues? cognitive issues and memory problems?
neuropsychiatric symptoms such as hallucinations, behavioral problems, and difficulty with complex mental tasks? variations in alertness and attention? how many animals can you name in 60 seconds?
No matter how it starts, LBD eventually leads to a similar set of physical, cognitive, and behavioral symptoms. These include: cognitive issues, such as trouble processing information and planning, visual and spatial problems, irritability or agitation, hallucinations that are very well formed and detailed, or delusions, anxiety or paranoia, sleep disorders, including acting out dreams while asleep, daytime sleepiness or the need to nap, staring, inability to pay attention, or fluctuating attention span, disorganized speech?
LBD can also affect the autonomic nervous system. This can lead to poor regulation of: digestive functions, excessive sweating, bowel and bladder problems, dizziness, which can increase the risk of falling.
What is clear is that people with LBD have abnormal clusters of proteins, called Lewy bodies, in their brains and Lewy bodies disrupt brain function.
Sadly, there is no cure for LBD. Should someone ask what's wrong with you Trapper, explain you're a marxist/socialist/democrap party loyalist. HIPPA laws will protect you from providing any further explanation.
We are willing to help you Old Trapper, so might I suggest you try; For thinking and memory problems, as well as behavior problems and hallucinations:
donepezil (Namzaric)
galantamine (Razadine)
rivastigmine (Exelon)
Maybe mental health counseling: This can help both the person with LBD and their family learn to cope with their emotions and behaviors.
As I said, sorry, no cure for LBD, but here's something to help until that final day arrives and you join your fellow travelers in Satan's Subterranean Paradise; Art and music therapy: This may help ease anxiety and improve mood. Pet therapy: A pet can provide companionship and boost mood. Aromatherapy: This can help calm and soothe.
OK, I know this was a lot for you, and I'll leave you with this: See your own doctor when you start to feel out of whack.
Caregiver burnout is all too real. It doesn't mean you've failed, it only means you're stretching yourself too thin. You might find it helpful to join a caregiver support group so you can interact with people who get it. If you start to feel emotionally or physically drained, consider speaking to a therapist.
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Hey poppy, is your medical history the best you can do? Well, for the demented who lack to ability to actually face the real world I guess it would be.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 10:44:04 AM
Hey poppy, is your medical history the best you can do? Well, for the demented who lack to ability to actually face the real world I guess it would be.
How many times did you vote for Jim Crow Joe?
Quote from: Solar on December 25, 2020, 10:43:04 AM
Kaczynski, David Berkowitz, Jim Jones etc, thought they were the normal ones too.
Comparing yourself to mass murderers is not a sign of good mental health. Then too, who said you were mentally competent.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 05:17:59 PM
Comparing yourself to mass murderers is not a sign of good mental health. Then too, who said you were mentally competent.
This is what I'm talking about! I posted evidence the DNC Owns ANTIFA and you simply ignore the post as if it was never stated.
It was in response to all your other Marxist blathering. You and your ilk are communists, are you going to try and deny it further?
Here's another you ran away from Coward! You see, your claim that you've never lost a debate is a lie in historical proportion because you never actually debate because always get your ass kicked and you scurry off like the little commie scum you are!
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 09:00:55 PM
Liars supporting liars with more lies.
You are speaking of the years 2009, 2010, with the Bush recession you try to blame on Obama. What would fools like you think was going to happen when some 60,000 manufacturing plants shut down under Bush43? What do you think will happen now with millions out of work under trump? Businesses are shutting down now, not under Biden. But, you will blame that on Biden just as you are trying to do now.
And Biden never said he was going to shut down the oil industry. He said he would restrict federal permits for the drilling of oil on federal land.
Lord you people are sooooo ignorant.
You see, this is one of your moron rants where I would take the time to post the actual facts exposing you for the functioning idiot you are.
But here's the problem, you run away, refuse to debate, even acknowledge you were wrong, act like nothing ever happened then run off and post that it is us who never debate.
Tell me Old socialist, why should we keep you around if you aren't willing to debate? You waste everyone's time with your unsubstantiated stupid claims, then when proven wrong, you claim we lied, and when proven it was you who lied, you move the goal post and start another lie.
Rinse and repeat is getting real old real fast. So make your best case as to why you should remain. I only let you in, in hopes you may have you upped your game, maybe even saw the light, but to no ones surprise, you got even more fuckin stupid, as if that was even possible!
I expect an answer Commie!
Quote from: Solar on December 25, 2020, 07:56:50 PM
This is what I'm talking about! I posted evidence the DNC Owns ANTIFA
First lie in this post. You posted an "opinion" based on a lie you support thus it becomes, in your limited mental capacity, "evidence"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/02/fact-check-antifa-com-redirects-joe-biden-site-hes-not-involved/3455297001/
QuoteHere's another you ran away from Coward! [/b]
You see, your claim that you've never lost a debate is a lie in historical proportion because you never actually debate because always get your ass kicked and you scurry off like the little commie scum you are!
Sorry, but I never run from liars, and cowards, like you. Showing what a sorry piece of shit you are is good enough for me.
QuoteYou see, this is one of your moron rants where I would take the time to post the actual facts exposing you for the functioning idiot you are.
But here's the problem, you run away, refuse to debate, even acknowledge you were wrong, act like nothing ever happened then run off and post that it is us who never debate.
Problem is little fool, you NEVER present anything to debate, and then you whine like the little child you are, or you lie, and claim to have done so. You post crap like that of your corrupt "self taught economist", and then tell everyone how great you are when you are a mental midget compared to midgets.
But here is your chance old fool. Prove you even know what a debate is, and post some actual proof that you are not just another f**king liar like your gawd trump. Got the balls to try old ass?
And threatening to ban me again, the last trait of the true coward, just doesn't get it pig f**ker.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 08:51:26 PM
And threatening to ban me again, the last trait of the true coward, just doesn't get it pig f**ker.
Your smelly political associates banned me on YouTube and Facebook.
You fagots won't get away with it. You will answer for your meanness and violation of the Constitution.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 08:51:26 PM
First lie in this post. You posted an "opinion" based on a lie you support thus it becomes, in your limited mental capacity, "evidence"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/02/fact-check-antifa-com-redirects-joe-biden-site-hes-not-involved/3455297001/
You are either a complete gullible dumb ass or a liar! The DNC Tried to capitalize off the riots and didn't give a shit who saw it, and you gullibly swallow a leftist excuse that the "Biden" had nothing to do with it?
No one ever said he did, Hell, he doesn't even make his own coffee. This was a DNC ploy, but you knew that so you wouldn't be forced to admit you Marxist party is the very cause of all the riots.
QuoteSorry, but I never run from liars, and cowards, like you. Showing what a sorry piece of shit you are is good enough for me.
You just did!
QuoteProblem is little fool, you NEVER present anything to debate, and then you whine like the little child you are, or you lie, and claim to have done so. You post crap like that of your corrupt "self taught economist", and then tell everyone how great you are when you are a mental midget compared to midgets.
Hey idiot, the site did not create the video, Dennis Prager did. But you knew that, jut like you knew the DNC created the antifa.com site.
If someone was doing this on their own, why hasn't the DNC sued them to stop? Because they own it and a court filing would expose your commie party for what they are!!!
QuoteBut here is your chance old fool. Prove you even know what a debate is, and post some actual proof that you are not just another f**king liar like your gawd trump. Got the balls to try old ass?
I just did moron, prove me wrong! Show me the court documents where the DNC asked for a cease and desist order from the court~
QuoteAnd threatening to ban me again, the last trait of the true coward, just doesn't get it pig f**ker.
Not a threat moron! You either start debating or you're out of here.
Here's another you ran from.
Quote from: Solar on December 25, 2020, 04:34:11 AM
Hey dumb ass, did you know no court has made a single judgement on the evidence they refuse to see?
They've all rejected these complaints solely on procedure, not any actual evidence, the courts don't want to admit the DNC lied and cheated, but you knew that.
Seriously, are you so stupid that you thought we didn't know this? if that's the case, you make it easier for us to pass post birth abortion laws, even mentally incompetent old socialists such as yourself can finally be humanely put down for the good of society.
I can post this shit all day, because your MO is to whine and run, the forum is littered with your cowardice.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 10:44:04 AM
Hey poppy, is your medical history the best you can do? Well, for the demented who lack to ability to actually face the real world I guess it would be.
I'm trying to help. I know it doesn't seem like it right now. Denial is always the first clue. Your symptoms are many, but may I list a few? TDS, man, you got it bad. Then there is the use of fake news for your information, I won't call them facts because there aren't.
You see and hear things that aren't really there. The claim to superiority over those that don't "see" what you do. Hallucinations. Depending on how your demons were sourced? Wait a minute, you've been eating magic mushrooms, haven't you? Be honest.
I'm just joking with ya yapper, but when you go in next week for you med checks, please mention Lewy Body Dementia to the guy with the white lab coat. You could very well be on the wrong medication. LBD goes undetected in so many cases. I just don't really think 4 stage dementia or Alzheimer's is what causing your break from reality.
Remember yapper, if you feel a little out of whack, seek therapy.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 25, 2020, 10:08:23 PM
Your smelly political associates banned me on YouTube and Facebook.
I don't do YouTube, and one of your lesser gawds, Lars Larson by name, has banned me on FB several times.
QuoteYou fagots won't get away with it. You will answer for your meanness and violation of the Constitution.
Interesting that more "faggots" have served the country then your cowards, or you for that matter.
And when it comes to cruelty your masters have it far above anyone else as trump, your major gawd, is proving now.
Quote from: Solar on December 26, 2020, 05:27:34 AM
You are either a complete gullible dumb ass or a liar! The DNC Tried to capitalize off the riots and didn't give a shit who saw it, and you gullibly swallow a leftist excuse that the "Biden" had nothing to do with it?
No one ever said he did, Hell, he doesn't even make his own coffee. This was a DNC ploy, but you knew that so you wouldn't be forced to admit you Marxist party is the very cause of all the riots.
You just did!
I ask for proof, and a reason to debate, and all I get are the usual lies, and bull shit, from a master of deceit, well, in his limited world anyway.
QuoteHey idiot, the site did not create the video, Dennis Prager did. But you knew that, jut like you knew the DNC created the antifa.com site.
If someone was doing this on their own, why hasn't the DNC sued them to stop? Because they own it and a court filing would expose your commie party for what they are!!!
Proof butt wipe. Do you even know what that is? Are you really that f**king stupid? Well, yes you are.
QuoteI just did moron, prove me wrong! Show me the court documents where the DNC asked for a cease and desist order from the court~
PROVE IT DUMB ASS. YOU MADE THE CLAIM. NOW PROVE IT.[/size]
QuoteNot a threat moron! You either start debating or you're out of here.
Here's another you ran from.
I can post this shit all day, because your MO is to whine and run, the forum is littered with your cowardice.
Yeah., liars like you,and your gawd, have a tendency to be able to do that just like your gawd trump, and his 60 tweets a day. Not hard to lie, just hard to prove it is not a lie, or face the truth.
And hey punk ass coward, get off the pot, or shit. Matters not to me.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 11:22:51 AM
I ask for proof, and a reason to debate, and all I get are the usual lies, and bull shit, from a master of deceit, well, in his limited world anyway.
I gave it to you, antifa.com!
QuoteProof butt wipe. Do you even know what that is? Are you really that f**king stupid? Well, yes you are.
See, this is the shit I'm talking about. You're too stupid to see that it says Right in the video "PragerU," That's Prager University, they produced the video, so the site posting it!
But as usual, you'll just run off knowiung you just made a fool of yourself in losing the debate! Par for the course coward!
QuotePROVE IT DUMB ASS. YOU MADE THE CLAIM. NOW PROVE IT.[/size]
And I said:
"I just did moron, prove me wrong!
Show me the court documents where the DNC asked for a cease and desist order from the court~They own antifa.com!!!
Feeling real stupid now, aren't you as you get even more frustrated because you're run out of talking points! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
QuoteYeah., liars like you,and your gawd, have a tendency to be able to do that just like your gawd trump, and his 60 tweets a day. Not hard to lie, just hard to prove it is not a lie, or face the truth.
And still you avoid my post and run on with more BS. I'll repeat!
"Hey dumb ass, did you know no court has made a single judgement on the evidence they refuse to see?
They've all rejected these complaints solely on procedure, not any actual evidence, the courts don't want to admit the DNC lied and cheated, but you knew that."
Seriously, are you so stupid that you thought we didn't know this? if that's the case, you make it easier for us to pass post birth abortion laws, even mentally incompetent old socialists such as yourself can finally be humanely put down for the good of society.
QuoteAnd hey punk ass coward, get off the pot, or shit. Matters not to me.
No, I enjoy watching you squirm as you attempt to move the goal post in hopes no one notices your inability for debate.
So here's another question minimarxist. Are you fine with the DNC backing riots? A simple yes or no should suffice.
Quote from: Solar on December 26, 2020, 12:39:39 PM
I gave it to you, antifa.com!
See, this is the shit I'm talking about. You're too stupid to see that it says Right in the video "PragerU," That's Prager University, they produced the video, so the site posting it!
But as usual, you'll just run off knowiung you just made a fool of yourself in losing the debate! Par for the course coward!
And I said:
"I just did moron, prove me wrong! Show me the court documents where the DNC asked for a cease and desist order from the court~
They own antifa.com!!!
Feeling real stupid now, aren't you as you get even more frustrated because you're run out of talking points!
And still you avoid my post and run on with more BS. I'll repeat!
"Hey dumb ass, did you know no court has made a single judgement on the evidence they refuse to see?
They've all rejected these complaints solely on procedure, not any actual evidence, the courts don't want to admit the DNC lied and cheated, but you knew that."
Seriously, are you so stupid that you thought we didn't know this? if that's the case, you make it easier for us to pass post birth abortion laws, even mentally incompetent old socialists such as yourself can finally be humanely put down for the good of society.
No, I enjoy watching you squirm as you attempt to move the goal post in hopes no one notices your inability for debate.
So here's another question minimarxist. Are you fine with the DNC backing riots? A simple yes or no should suffice.
More lies, more bull shit, never any proof. That is your form of "debate".
PROVE YOUR CLAIMS FOOL. PROVE YOU ARE NOT LYING AS YOU ALWAYS DO[/size] And I won't be holding my breath waiting for something you cannot do, will not do, and have never done.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 12:46:49 PM
More lies, more bull shit, never any proof. That is your form of "debate".
PROVE YOUR CLAIMS FOOL. PROVE YOU ARE NOT LYING AS YOU ALWAYS DO[/size] And I won't be holding my breath waiting for something you cannot do, will not do, and have never done.
So do it! Show me the court documents where the DNC asked for a cease and desist order from the court, show me where the DNC was ordered to stop using antifa.com to fund raise off Biden's "Idea".
You can't because antifa is a creation of the Marxist party. Prove they aren't!!! It's there in black and white, look at it coward! antifa.com!!!
Now I'll ask again because apparently you are fine with DNC riots and looting. Do you support the DNC riots?
Quote from: Solar on December 26, 2020, 12:58:25 PM
So do it! Show me the court documents where the DNC asked for a cease and desist order from the court, show me where the DNC was ordered to stop using antifa.com to fund raise off Biden's "Idea".
You can't because antifa is a creation of the Marxist party. Prove they aren't!!! It's there in black and white, look at it coward! antifa.com!!!
Now I'll ask again because apparently you are fine with DNC riots and looting. Do you support the DNC riots?
While he's at it, he may as well offer "evidence" that the KKK was not created by the Democrat party. Since Old Trapper likes to think of himself as a "superior intellect", offering evidence should be no problem for a "superior intellect".
Quote from: RV on December 26, 2020, 02:18:04 PM
While he's at it, he may as well offer "evidence" that the KKK was not created by the Democrat party. Since Old Trapper likes to think of himself as a "superior intellect", offering evidence should be no problem for a "superior intellect".
The moron thought Lincoln was a Dim a decade ago. Their is absolutely no critical thought going on in his head whatsoever, the guy is your run of the mill, hick from the sticks, no education beyond 8th grade.
Pro Union, pro Marxist, the worst of the idiot left.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 11:10:27 AM
Interesting that more "faggots"
"Faggots" here it is used simply as an offensive word. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
But! Homosexuals should remember that with all types of socialism- fascism, Nazism and communism,
you were simply killed, without trial or investigation. Only for the very fact of homosexuality.
Quote from: Solar on December 26, 2020, 03:37:38 PM
The moron thought Lincoln was a Dim a decade ago. Their is absolutely no critical thought going on in his head whatsoever, the guy is your run of the mill, hick from the sticks, no education beyond 8th grade.
Pro Union, pro Marxist, the worst of the idiot left.
Just can't quit lying can you. Jefferson, Adam Smith, most of the Founders, supported Unions, and even Profit Sharing. In fact the country was founded on a dual economy including facets of what is now called socialism by the uneducated right wing fools. Postal roads, the military, poor houses, food banks, police departments, fire departments, free health care for mariners (the beginning of the VA), free education, and the list goes on, are all "socialist" under your definition, and at government expense.
Then too, you can't prove any of your shit save for some conspiracy theories, not facts or reality., and that is good enough for your kind of special cowardly fool.
BTW, does a fool like you even have a clue as to what a Democratic Republic is?
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 08:40:36 PM
Just can't quit lying can you. Jefferson, Adam Smith, most of the Founders, supported Unions, and even Profit Sharing. In fact the country was founded on a dual economy including facets of what is now called socialism by the uneducated right wing fools. Postal roads, the military, poor houses, food banks, police departments, fire departments, free health care for mariners (the beginning of the VA), free education, and the list goes on, are all "socialist" under your definition, and at government expense.
Then too, you can't prove any of your shit save for some conspiracy theories, not facts or reality., and that is good enough for your kind of special cowardly fool.
BTW, does a fool like you even have a clue as to what a Democratic Republic is?
Nope, sorry dear, science simply doesnt back up your left wing talking points. There has never been socialism here before the 20th century and all those things you listed, none of them are actually socialist, lol, you really dont know what socialism is, do you? :lol: :lol: :lol:
The military is socialist? BWAHAHHAHA thats a very ignorant statement and surely not one the founders wld have supported.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 08:40:36 PM
Just can't quit lying can you. Jefferson, Adam Smith, most of the Founders, supported Unions, and even Profit Sharing. In fact the country was founded on a dual economy including facets of what is now called socialism by the uneducated right wing fools. Postal roads, the military, poor houses, food banks, police departments, fire departments, free health care for mariners (the beginning of the VA), free education, and the list goes on, are all "socialist" under your definition, and at government expense.
Then too, you can't prove any of your shit save for some conspiracy theories, not facts or reality., and that is good enough for your kind of special cowardly fool.
BTW, does a fool like you even have a clue as to what a Democratic Republic is?
Oh Good god! It's as if you were being stupid on purpose like a comedy act. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
All you managed to do was describe society as a whole. Communities creating security, fire prevention, roads etc, this is how towns function, has been since the inception of time.
What a fuckin marooon!!!
Quote from: Solar on December 27, 2020, 04:17:48 AM
What a fuckin marooon!!!
Do you think it's an insult for Old Shit to get ass fucked? :woot:
I don't know why, but the number of homosexuals, who prefer to have sex in the anus is orders of magnitude greater among Democrats than among Republicans.
Quote from: Solar on December 27, 2020, 04:17:48 AM
Oh Good god! It's as if you were being stupid on purpose like a comedy act.
All you managed to do was describe society as a whole. Communities creating security, fire prevention, roads etc, this is how towns function, has been since the inception of time.
What a fuckin marooon!!!
Once again the uneducated idiot responds not using fact, or reality, just his perverted emotional rant. And being dependent on the support of his fellow travelers is yet another trait of the low IQ right winger.
Problem with your idiocy is that any economic theory describes "society as a whole". You really do demonstrate the inability of your kind of special idiot to debate any topic. However, just to give you yet another chance to demonstrate for the educated what a fool you are, are they, or are they not, paid for by taxpayer dollars?
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 27, 2020, 01:27:27 PM
Once again the uneducated idiot responds not using fact, or reality, just his perverted emotional rant. And being dependent on the support of his fellow travelers is yet another trait of the low IQ right winger.
Problem with your idiocy is that any economic theory describes "society as a whole". You really do demonstrate the inability of your kind of special idiot to debate any topic. However, just to give you yet another chance to demonstrate for the educated what a fool you are, are they, or are they not, paid for by taxpayer dollars?
You a Phoenix?
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 27, 2020, 01:27:27 PM
Once again the uneducated idiot responds not using fact, or reality, just his perverted emotional rant. And being dependent on the support of his fellow travelers is yet another trait of the low IQ right winger.
Problem with your idiocy is that any economic theory describes "society as a whole". You really do demonstrate the inability of your kind of special idiot to debate any topic. However, just to give you yet another chance to demonstrate for the educated what a fool you are, are they, or are they not, paid for by taxpayer dollars?
What a city does as opposed to what the Federal govt are not socialist societies, Dumb Ass!
If a city wants to fund a PD or fire, they raise taxes dollars, people are free to leave. You really don't know shit, do you?
Now, stop avoiding my question commie! Do you support the DNC using antifa to loot and riot?
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 08:40:36 PM
Just can't quit lying can you. Jefferson, Adam Smith, most of the Founders, supported Unions, and even Profit Sharing. In fact the country was founded on a dual economy including facets of what is now called socialism by the uneducated right wing fools. Postal roads, the military, poor houses, food banks, police departments, fire departments, free health care for mariners (the beginning of the VA), free education, and the list goes on, are all "socialist" under your definition, and at government expense.
Then too, you can't prove any of your shit save for some conspiracy theories, not facts or reality., and that is good enough for your kind of special cowardly fool.
BTW, does a fool like you even have a clue as to what a Democratic Republic is?
Are you drunk? Feeling out of whack? Severely constipated, for like a month or so? Do animals speak to you? You throw poo around, funny at times, doesn't make any sense however.
Most of the founders supported unions? Really, which founders and which union might you be speaking of?
Profit sharing, really? Profits from what, which industry and when did that start?
Postal Roads were part of the Constitution. Probably was a good reason for that, or you don't think so?
What was the dual economy?
YOUR list may go on and on, but it makes no sense at all. Have you noticed that you run out of pain meds before you run out of month? You may be making bath tub gin to stretch your budget, but that's not a good idea. In a sober moment, fleeting as it may be, go back and read the shit you post. If it still makes any sense while sober, you have the wrong doctor treating you for the wrong problems.
Here's a thought: Parkinson's disease psychosis. Or, delusions, are often overlooked or misdiagnosed and this results in problems with your medication. Antipsychotic drugs should be used with extreme caution in people with PD. They may cause serious side effects and can even make hallucinations and delusions worse.
We're here to help, but you got to meet us halfway. Start by making some sense of what you post. Your post above that I quoted shows a lack of reality. I don't think your stupid, or you use spell check. Did Andy Blooper or Dawn Lieghmoan over at CNN give you those facts? Maybe that handsome devil with a penchant for lying Brian "I saw bodies floating in the streets" Williams over at MSNBC gave you your information?
Get help OlYapper, a mind is a terrible thing to waste, even if there's not much left to it.