Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 12:37:38 PM
For the sake of our conversation...here's the info related to the current candidates and their SuperPAC donations:

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race

If Sanders becomes president and keeps his promise to end SuperPACs, he'll be sacrificing all of that money.

Holy moly....that's a big chunk of change Trump has in his campaign piggy bank. No wonder you hate Super Pac money. Trump is killing it.

Donald Trump (R) Incumbent

Billionaire real estate developer, businessman and television personality Donald Trump — who had never held public office — flirted with the idea of running for president for decades before jumping into the 2016 race. After running an unconventional and underfunded campaign in 2016 but receiving free media attention valued at about $5 billion, Trump's reelection campaign looks to be flush with cash. Having declared his 2020 bid the day he took office, Trump has drawn unprecedented fundraising hauls, attracting both large and small donors.

CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $165,671,189

OUTSIDE MONEY: $82,425,808

Vs. the next closest Bernie Sanders

Sen. Bernie Sanders is an independent senator from Vermont running as a Democrat. He ran for president in 2016, and although he lost in the primary to Hillary Clinton, he still has a fiercely dedicated fan base of economically progressive liberals backing him. Sanders' candidacy also made more visible the Democratic Socialists of America, a far-left political organization that often operates within the Democratic party.

CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $73,797,153


OUTSIDE MONEY: $1,881



https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 25, 2019, 12:51:30 PM
How would he end Super PAC's? It seems this is similar to Citizens United and the SCOTUS has already weighed in.

That, I don't know. I'm not opposed to a Constitutional Amendment.

Are you for or against Super PACs?


edit:

i pulled this from his website while googling a response to your question:

QuoteKey Points

Ban all corporate contributions to the Democratic Party Convention and all related committees, and as President he would be ban all corporate donations for inaugural events and cap individual donations at $500.

Abolish the now-worthless FEC and replace it with the Federal Election Administration, a true law enforcement agency originally proposed by former Senators John McCain and Russ Feingold.
Enacting mandatory public financing laws for all federal elections.

Updating and strengthen the Federal Election Campaign Act to return to a system of mandatory public funding for National Party Conventions.

Passing a Constitutional Amendment that makes clear that money is not speech and corporations are not people.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/money-out-of-politics/

I haven't read this article yet, but it's from 2019 so it might have some new info:

https://time.com/5651417/constitutional-amendment-campaign-finance/

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
That, I don't know. I'm not opposed to a Constitutional Amendment.

Are you for or against Super PACs?


edit:

i pulled this from his website while googling a response to your question:

I haven't read this article yet, but it's from 2019 so it might have some new info:

https://time.com/5651417/constitutional-amendment-campaign-finance/

Don't bother. It's a hit piece on the republican big donors like The koch Brothers while never mentioning George Soros not once.....I wonder why....?

Anyway...whenever the democrats get spanked they wanna go in there and muddy the waters by changing the rules. Hillary gets crushed in the Electoral College Vote and bingo lets do anyway with the Electoral College Vote. The democrats are getting crushed money wise so let's get rid of the Super Pacs.

This is what happens when the democrats are jonesing to say in power.

Quote from: Bronx on November 25, 2019, 02:16:57 PM
Don't bother. It's a hit piece on the republican big donors like The koch Brothers while never mentioning George Soros not once.....I wonder why....?

Anyway...whenever the democrats get spanked they wanna go in there and muddy the waters by changing the rules. Hillary gets crushed in the Electoral College Vote and bingo lets do anyway with the Electoral College Vote. The democrats are getting crushed money wise so let's get rid of the Super Pacs.

This is what happens when the democrats are jonesing to say in power.

What disappoints me about your response, and tone in general today, is that you seem to look at it as me vs. you or Reps. vs. Dems.

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 12:37:38 PM
For the sake of our conversation...here's the info related to the current candidates and their SuperPAC donations:

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race

If Sanders becomes president and keeps his promise to end SuperPACs, he'll be sacrificing all of that money.

IF Sanders does become president he won't be able to keep any of his promises. Do you understand that?

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
What disappoints me about your response, and tone in general today, is that you seem to look at it as me vs. you or Reps. vs. Dems.

Well sir please tell me where I'm wrong.

Bernie, the arbiter of ethics....   

https://conservativehardliner.com/breadlines-bernie-paid-his-book-publisher-over-400k-his-campaign-funds-2015

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
What disappoints me about your response, and tone in general today, is that you seem to look at it as me vs. you or Reps. vs. Dems.

Bronx just pulled your pants down and spanked you in front of the forum.  You need to do better.

Quote from: Bronx on November 25, 2019, 03:28:48 PM
Well sir please tell me where I'm wrong.

You're wrong in that it's not me vs. you.

We're all in this country together. We need to to be great together.

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 04:07:50 PM
You're wrong in that it's not me vs. you.

We're all in this country together. We need to to be great together.

No we're not. You support Bernie. That makes you an anti-American communist.  I'll retract if you can name one pro-American position of Bernie's.

Quote from: taxed on November 25, 2019, 04:09:03 PM
No we're not. You support Bernie. That makes you an anti-American communist.  I'll retract if you can name one pro-American position of Bernie's.

Whether you like it or not we are in this country together, and we both want and need it to be great.

What's your opinion on Super PACs. Yea or Nay?

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 04:22:57 PM
Whether you like it or not we are in this country together, and we both want and need it to be great.

I'm not convinced that you're an American citizen.  Your posts show otherwise.

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What's your opinion on Super PACs. Yea or Nay?

I have no problem with Super PACs, and neither does Bernie.

Why in the name of the queen's corsets would anyone donate to the Sanders campaign? He's the dumb pot smoking dorm mate with the Che poster. He's not only economically illiterate but a hypocrite and a career failure.

As to the topic I don't care about Super PACs because I don't by all the crap about people "buying" elections. It still comes down to the people voting for the candidate that best fits their ideology. Now we have to listen Sanders and Hiawatha Warren drone on and on abot Bloomberg.

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 04:22:57 PM
Whether you like it or not we are in this country together, and we both want and need it to be great.

What's your opinion on Super PACs. Yea or Nay?

Your the one backing Sanders campaign.  Sanders sacrificing is using other people money.  Like a good little communist!

Where was the howling from the left?

Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein presidential campaigns

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/17/indictment-russians-also-tried-help-bernie-sanders-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/