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As many of you know, I donated to the Sanders campaign. This is one of the positions of his that I really like.

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 10:07:01 AM
As many of you know, I donated to the Sanders campaign. This is one of the positions of his that I really like.

Pro-Sanders super PAC brought in $2.3 million
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-super-pac-218478

C'mon man you really believe Bernie Sander will turn down super pac money.....? Sanders is a lyin' old fool and it's up to you not to fall for his lies or you fall into the trap of becoming the fool.

Quote from: Bronx on November 25, 2019, 10:35:16 AM


Pro-Sanders super PAC brought in $2.3 million
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-super-pac-218478

C'mon man you really believe Bernie Sander will turn down super pac money.....? Sanders is a lyin' old fool and it's up to you not to fall for his lies or you fall into the trap of becoming the fool.

That doesn't change his position...yes, SuperPACS existed in 2016 and currently exist

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 11:36:57 AM
That doesn't change his position...yes, SuperPACS existed in 2016 and currently exist

C'mon man. You come in here and tell us a lie that Sanders doesn't accept Super Pac money. I just prove that Bernie does indeed ACCEPT Super Pac money and your answer is "That doesn't change his position"........

Sir I'm really trying hard not to laugh at you but C'mon man face the facts Bernie loves him some Super Pacs.

At least Trump admits  that he will accept Super Pac money. Bernie Sanders lies about it. Have you ever heard the saying...."Action Speaks Louder Than Words". Well Bernie Sander just bought that saying to life right before your eye....like magic or something.

The sad part is you fall for it and now you're defending it. There is a saying in the Bronx "never give a sucker an even break".....now it looks like Bernie Sanders has one hook, line, and sinker.

Quote from: Bronx on November 25, 2019, 11:51:48 AM
C'mon man. You come in here and tell us a lie that Sanders doesn't accept Super Pac money. I just prove that Bernie does indeed ACCEPT Super Pac money and your answer is "That doesn't change his position"........

Sir I'm really trying hard not to laugh at you but C'mon man face the facts Bernie loves him some Super Pacs.

At least Trump admits  that he will accept Super Pac money. Bernie Sanders lies about it. Have you ever heard the saying...."Action Speaks Louder Than Words". Well Bernie Sander just bought that saying to life right before your eye....like magic or something.

The sad part is you fall for it and now you're defending it. There is a saying in the Bronx "never give a sucker an even break".....now it looks like Bernie Sanders has one hook, line, and sinker.

I never said that 

I do agree with his position on them.

Do you?

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 11:36:57 AM
That doesn't change his position...yes, SuperPACS existed in 2016 and currently exist

Here are some more of Bernie sanders Super Pac:

Pro-Bernie Sanders super-PAC creator charged with fraud

Peterson originally launched the super-PAC in February 2015, calling it "Ready for Bernie Sanders 2016" but renamed it "Americans Socially United" because of federal rules that don't allow political committees to use a candidate's name without authorization.
https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273181-pro-bernie-sanders-super-pac-creator-charged-with-fraud

So with this we gave Bernie Sanders Two Pinocchios

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
I never said that 

I do agree with his position on them.

Do you?

In your opening post you put Sander in the CON list that he will not take Super Pac money and you stated and I quote:....."This is one of the positions of his that I really like".

As far as me agreeing with this lyin' fool......NO.....he accepted Super Pac money...what part of that you don't understand. Bernie Sanders is a liar.....!

My friend....you seem like a nice fellow but the democrats impossible dream is to make a lie truth and that my friend will never fly here at CPF.

Quote from: Bronx on November 25, 2019, 12:07:33 PM
Here are some more of Bernie sanders Super Pac:

Pro-Bernie Sanders super-PAC creator charged with fraud

Peterson originally launched the super-PAC in February 2015, calling it "Ready for Bernie Sanders 2016" but renamed it "Americans Socially United" because of federal rules that don't allow political committees to use a candidate's name without authorization.
https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273181-pro-bernie-sanders-super-pac-creator-charged-with-fraud

So with this we gave Bernie Sanders Two Pinocchios

You either agree or disagree with the positions in the OP link.

I agree with Bernie's position.


edit:

ah, it just dawned on me. I think you're trying to play a "gotcha" game with me about Sanders because I said I supported him.

I'm just trying to have an actual discussion about our positions on SuperPACs and whether or not we support them and whether or not we agree with our candidates of choice.

Quote from: Bronx on November 25, 2019, 12:11:09 PM
In your opening post you put Sander in the CON list that he will not take Super Pac money and you stated and I quote:....."This is one of the positions of his that I really like".

As far as me agreeing with they lies fool......NO.....he accepted Super Pac money...what part of that you don't understand. Bernie Sanders is a liar.....!

My friend....you seem like a nice fellow but the democrats impossible dream is to make a lie truth and that my friend will never fly here at CPF.

Okay. Thanks for answering.

You are Pro SuperPACs.

So Trump or Yang are on your side with that.

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 12:13:03 PM


You either agree or disagree with the positions in the OP link.

I agree with Bernie's position.


edit:

ah, it just dawned on me. I think you're trying to play a "gotcha" game with me about Sanders because I said I supported him.

I'm just trying to have an actual discussion about our positions on SuperPACs and whether or not we support them and whether or not we agree with our candidates of choice.

Once again NO.....he accepted Super Pac money...what part of that you don't understand. Bernie Sanders is a liar.....!

How the hell are you going to have a honest conversation about Super Pacs when the man you are defending does indeed accept Super Pac money.....?

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 12:16:59 PM
Okay. Thanks for answering.

You are Pro SuperPACs.

So Trump or Yang are on your side with that.

You're to funny. You try and call me out on something you didn't say and than turn around and put words in my mouth.

I never once said I support super pacs. Now if you wanna have an honest conversation about it be honest about the one you are backing and that is Sanders and he does indeed accept super pac money.

Quote from: Bronx on November 25, 2019, 12:19:50 PM
Once again NO.....he accepted Super Pac money...what part of that you don't understand. Bernie Sanders is a liar.....!

How the hell are you going to have a honest conversation about Super Pacs when the man you are defending does indeed accept Super Pac money.....?

For the sake of our conversation...here's the info related to the current candidates and their SuperPAC donations:

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race

If Sanders becomes president and keeps his promise to end SuperPACs, he'll be sacrificing all of that money.

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 12:37:38 PM
For the sake of our conversation...here's the info related to the current candidates and their SuperPAC donations:

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race

If Sanders becomes president and keeps his promise to end SuperPACs, he'll be sacrificing all of that money.

why hasn't he stopped taking them if he is so against them?

Quote from: s3779m on November 25, 2019, 12:40:13 PM
why hasn't he stopped taking them if he is so against them?

Maybe somebody will ask him on the debate stage...

according to the data I just looked up neither Warren nor Biden have taken any money from Super PACs yet.

Quote from: joesixpack on November 25, 2019, 12:37:38 PM
For the sake of our conversation...here's the info related to the current candidates and their SuperPAC donations:

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race

If Sanders becomes president and keeps his promise to end SuperPACs, he'll be sacrificing all of that money.

How would he end Super PAC's? It seems this is similar to Citizens United and the SCOTUS has already weighed in.