You know at my age all my History teachers are dead.  But they must be laughing their ass off rolling over in their graves.  My teachers would be throwing a book it me way back then if I were this dumb on History.    They could do that back then. 

Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 04:13:33 PM
I don't remember ever having come across someone claiming to be a Conservative, this damn ignorant of history.
I've had this forum for nearly 10 years now and he is the first. 

Every liberal I know has his same views. How does that go: if it walks like a duck........

Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 05:29:17 PM
What in the federalist papers indicates that the founders wanted black and brown people to be part of our society. Give me the citation.

That;s the point dumb ass, race is never mentioned anywhere in out Founding Documents.
You are the one claiming the Founders wanted a white nation you freakin racist, ignorant of our Founding.

Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2019, 04:38:19 AM
That;s the point dumb ass, race is never mentioned anywhere in out Founding Documents.
You are the one claiming the Founders wanted a white nation you freakin racist, ignorant of our Founding.

Man, what a joke you are. Homosexuals are never mentioned anywhere in the founding documents. Must mean that the founders supported the lgbt agenda.

Dumb ass, the reason these things are not mentioned is that the idea of nonwhites being part of the society they were designing, just like the idea of sodomites and trannies being seen as normal, was inconceivable to them.

They endorsed slavery, Jefferson owned blacks and had them whipped whenever they got out of line. They excluded indians and wiped out whole tribes as necessary. Jackson showed no mercy to nonwhites. Lincoln tried to ship blacks back to Africa. Up to the commie takeover after WWII, all presidents and normal Americans endorsed segregation.

Zero evidence that, until very recently, anyone expected the US to be other than a white country.

Again, you deny what you logically know is true. That's commie brainwashing.

Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 07:27:43 AM
Man, what a joke you are. Homosexuals are never mentioned anywhere in the founding documents. Must mean that the founders supported the lgbt agenda.

Dumb ass, the reason these things are not mentioned is that the idea of nonwhites being part of the society they were designing, just like the idea of sodomites and trannies being seen as normal, was inconceivable to them.

They endorsed slavery, Jefferson owned blacks and had them whipped whenever they got out of line. They excluded indians and wiped out whole tribes as necessary. Jackson showed no mercy to nonwhites. Lincoln tried to ship blacks back to Africa. Up to the commie takeover after WWII, all presidents and normal Americans endorsed segregation.

Zero evidence that, until very recently, anyone expected the US to be other than a white country.

Again, you deny what you logically know is true. That's commie brainwashing.

Next you're going to tell us "All men created Equal" really meant "Only White Men"? Of course a leftist would drag in LGBQTABC into the mix as deserving of spetchal Rights because they weren't mentioned either, that's what you idiot libs do, assign privilege where it doesn't belong, as in this case, to only "White Men".
Jefferson could care less what people did in their private lives, otherwise it would have been mentioned. Founders didn't see race, again dumb ass, or they would have made mention of it. Which is why the inclusion of"Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".

You even pulled the racist card in the beginning when you claimed "Free White Men" out of context. You don't get to interpret the Constitution to fit your racist narrative.
So what are you proposing as your solution, bringing back slavery? God you Marxists are sick. Karl would be proud to know people like you are doing his bidding long after his death.

Quote from: s3779m on October 17, 2019, 03:07:26 AM
Every liberal I know has his same views. How does that go: if it walks like a duck........

In his case, I think he identifies as said duck. After all, he is a quack.

Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2019, 09:03:42 AM
Next you're going to tell us "All men created Equal" really meant "Only White Men"? Of course a leftist would drag in LGBQTABC into the mix as deserving of spetchal Rights because they weren't mentioned either, that's what you idiot libs do, assign privilege where it doesn't belong, as in this case, to only "White Men".
Jefferson could care less what people did in their private lives, otherwise it would have been mentioned. Founders didn't see race, again dumb ass, or they would have made mention of it. Which is why the inclusion of"Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".

You even pulled the racist card in the beginning when you claimed "Free White Men" out of context. You don't get to interpret the Constitution to fit your racist narrative.
So what are you proposing as your solution, bringing back slavery? God you Marxists are sick. Karl would be proud to know people like you are doing his bidding long after his death.

Yes, dumb ass. The guy who wrote "all men are created equal" owned blacks. Had them whipped when they acted up. He had indians driven out of their lands to make room for white expansion.

"All men are created equal" was a statement about the nature of rights in an Anglo society. It was social contract theory. It was extrapolation from the ideas of John Locke.

It was not an anthropological assertion, you blithering fucking idiot.

And yes, dumb ass, they wrote "free white men." There is no taking that out of context. Nonwhites were not invited. And that refutes your other point. They didn't mention race in the Federalst Papers because the idea of nonwhites joining their society was inconceivable to them. When there was any question of nonwhites being let in, they specified only FREE WHITE MEN 

edit: Jefferson wanted to have the indians removed, Jackson did it.

Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 09:29:53 AM
Yes, dumb ass. The guy who wrote "all men are created equal" owned blacks. Had them whipped when they acted up. He had indians driven out of their lands to make room for white expansion.

"All men are created equal" was a statement about the nature of rights in an Anglo society. It was social contract theory. It was extrapolation from the ideas of John Locke.

It was not an anthropological assertion, you blithering fucking idiot.

And yes, dumb ass, they wrote "free white men." There is no taking that out of context. Nonwhites were not invited. And that refutes your other point.was inconceivable to They didn't mention race in the Federalst Papers because the idea of nonwhites joining their society them. When there was any question of nonwhites being let in, they specified only FREE WHITE MEN 

edit: Jefferson wanted to have the indians removed, Jackson did it.

There were very few countries back then that had mixed races which occurred naturally. This was the result of natural boundaries and lack of desire to live elsewhere and lack of a transportation system that allowed travel for the masses. What the founding Fathers envisioned for this country was a reflection of how it was where they came from. Times changed. People had greater access to travel and different races could choose where to live. One of the first acts this great country took after freeing the slaves was to grant them citizenship with rights. As this great country saw a different type of Americans, attitudes changed with that, sometimes slow but always moving forward. Nowhere in early America, or in the writings can a person find the racist viewpoints you claim. Hate and racism did not establish this country as you seem to think. Does racism exist, of course, as long as there are idiots there will be those who judge by skin color and not by the character of the man. Our country is stronger for believing that life, liberty and pursuit of happiness applies to all citizens. 

Quote from: s3779m on October 17, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
There were very few countries back then that had mixed races which occurred naturally. This was the result of natural boundaries and lack of desire to live elsewhere and lack of a transportation system that allowed travel for the masses. What the founding Fathers envisioned for this country was a reflection of how it was where they came from. Times changed. People had greater access to travel and different races could choose where to live. One of the first acts this great country took after freeing the slaves was to grant them citizenship with rights. As this great country saw a different type of Americans, attitudes changed with that, sometimes slow but always moving forward. Nowhere in early America, or in the writings can a person find the racist viewpoints you claim. Hate and racism did not establish this country as you seem to think. Does racism exist, of course, as long as there are idiots there will be those who judge by skin color and not by the character of the man. Our country is stronger for believing that life, liberty and pursuit of happiness applies to all citizens.

You boomers have no idea what was done to you.

You've been watching controlled media since you were born, and you were led to believe that it is "evil" to recognize group differences.

So you poor boobs just have to keep virtue signaling no matter what evidence you are presented with.

Just be aware, you are making commie arguments. Economic Marxism sells the idea that different social classes are actually equal. Cultural Marxism sells the idea that different identity groups are actually equal.

This is used to make underachieving groups bitter--because if they are equal, then why do they keep failing?--and to incite those groups to attack the people who make society run properly.

Once society's natural leaders are under attack, and cannot maintain order, the commies seize power.

That's how the game works, and you dopes have been playing into their hands for decades.

Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 09:29:53 AM
Yes, dumb ass. The guy who wrote "all men are created equal" owned blacks. Had them whipped when they acted up. He had indians driven out of their lands to make room for white expansion.

"All men are created equal" was a statement about the nature of rights in an Anglo society. It was social contract theory. It was extrapolation from the ideas of John Locke.

It was not an anthropological assertion, you blithering fucking idiot.

And yes, dumb ass, they wrote "free white men." There is no taking that out of context. Nonwhites were not invited. And that refutes your other point. They didn't mention race in the Federalst Papers because the idea of nonwhites joining their society was inconceivable to them. When there was any question of nonwhites being let in, they specified only FREE WHITE MEN 

edit: Jefferson wanted to have the indians removed, Jackson did it.

Oh Jeez, you're still here?
You do know, there were white slaves as well, not to mention Black slave holders, right?

"On paper it offered freedom to all peoples regardless of race, creed, or color—-it was to be liberty without obstruction."

https://thefederalistpapers.org/current-events/equality-vs-liberty

Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 05:10:55 PM
You boomers have no idea what was done to you.

You've been watching controlled media since you were born, and you were led to believe that it is "evil" to recognize group differences.

So you poor boobs just have to keep virtue signaling no matter what evidence you are presented with.

Just be aware, you are making commie arguments. Economic Marxism sells the idea that different social classes are actually equal. Cultural Marxism sells the idea that different identity groups are actually equal.

This is used to make underachieving groups bitter--because if they are equal, then why do they keep failing?--and to incite those groups to attack the people who make society run properly.

Once society's natural leaders are under attack, and cannot maintain order, the commies seize power.

That's how the game works, and you dopes have been playing into their hands for decades.

I find it fascinating that some kid is scared to death that he thinks colored people are coming to get him.
You do an awful lot of whining, but have yet to say what you will do about it personally, instead, you come to a Conservative forum to bitch?
Tell us son, what is your solution aside from wetting yourself?

Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2019, 07:11:27 PM
I find it fascinating that some kid is scared to death that he thinks colored people are coming to get him.
You do an awful lot of whining, but have yet to say what you will do about it personally, instead, you come to a Conservative forum to bitch?
Tell us son, what is your solution aside from wetting yourself?

So what have all you anti-racist old ladies accomplished, as conservatives?

What have you conserved? Family values? Female honor? Education standards? Health standards? The most basic laws of the land?

You guys have been the bulk of the American right for the past 30 years. Why did everything go to shit on your watch?

Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 08:29:32 PM


So what have all you anti-racist old ladies accomplished, as conservatives?

What have you conserved? Family values? Female honor? Education standards? Health standards? The most basic laws of the land?

You guys have been the bulk of the American right for the past 30 years. Why did everything go to shit on your watch?

This country will allow you to leave anytime you want. There are third world shit holes just waiting for you and you will fit in. Several middle east countries have the hatred and racism you long for. You will be able to hate all you want. So, what's keeping you here.

Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 08:29:32 PM


So what have all you anti-racist old ladies accomplished, as conservatives?

What have you conserved? Family values? Female honor? Education standards? Health standards? The most basic laws of the land?

You guys have been the bulk of the American right for the past 30 years. Why did everything go to shit on your watch?

Us? We haven't had a say for the last 60 years. It wasn't until TEA that we finally started kicking leftist RINO to the curb, the very movement that brought you Trump.
But I tire of elucidating you with every post, like trying to un-teach your cousin Billy Bobs lessons on how to get a girl. So put away the case of beer and roofies, you're never going to get laid if you remain stupid.

But I'm still waiting to hear how you're going to reverse what you see as doom for the white race. You  whine that "The Sky is Falling, We're All Gonna Die", but have no plan of action.
Sure, you can go through life wearing a helmet, thinking at any moment your demise is right around the corner. But do you always carry a bug out bag on your back?

This may come as a surprise, but white people aren't popping out kids like we used to, but I think that was just an anomaly related to the Marxist Dims trying to destroy our economy, so no sane people would want to raise children in Obozos "Fundamentally Changed America".
Trump has given people hope so a whole new generation is about to pop out kids.
Still, what are you going to do about these problems, are you going to continue to hate to the points it eats you alive, or try and find the positive in the future?
Tell us, oh Racist one, what is your plan to turn back time 70 years?

Quote from: s3779m on October 18, 2019, 02:41:24 AM
This country will allow you to leave anytime you want. There are third world shit holes just waiting for you and you will fit in. Several middle east countries have the hatred and racism you long for. You will be able to hate all you want. So, what's keeping you here.

That reminds me of the time I went to Seattle. I got off the plane, white people everywhere. But there was one thing that stood out like a dick on a girl.
They were all racist and liberal! I kid you not, they were open about their hate for nonwhites, Planned Parenthood was doing Gods work by culling those darkies and they nothing was going to stop them.
Not kidding, they liked the fact that the dim party had kept them niggas on the plantation of inner-cities and out of their city.

Of course not everyone thought that way, but these idiot leftists weren't afraid to wear their racism on their sleeve, just like this idiot, which means the majority of thought ruled. Probably the same reason ANTIFA flourishes there.