Vincent James, founder of the Red Elephants news channel, outlines the difference between useless cucks like Charlie Kirk, and people who understand that demography is destiny, i.e., that the ethnic makeup of a society determines how, and even whether, that society functions.
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnlJzJGyfPc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnlJzJGyfPc)
2016 election broken down by group:
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The maps is a great graphic explanation for the Democrats strategy. Woman minorities and only the sexual deviant map is missing.
We need a good, old-fashioned BLOODY American Revolution. Nothing else will change anything.
Quote from: Kentucky_Conservative on October 15, 2019, 12:51:07 AM
We need a good, old-fashioned BLOODY American Revolution. Nothing else will change anything.
Considering our positioning and international situation, with Latin America ready to flow in, China armed up, and Canada under soft communist control, a civil war or revolution is not the wisest course. It would open up a lot of possibilities for globalist intervention, and could lead to the final subjugation of white America.
We need to take back our institutions--government & courts, banking, media, and education--by other means. Then the demographic trends, the lgtb garbage, etc., etc. can be reversed by manipulating culture and policy.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 07:39:32 AM
Considering our positioning and international situation, with Latin America ready to flow in, China armed up, and Canada under soft communist control, a civil war or revolution is not the wisest course. It would open up a lot of possibilities for globalist intervention, and could lead to the final subjugation of white America.
We need to take back our institutions--government & courts, banking, media, and education--by other means. Then the demographic trends, the lgtb garbage, etc., etc. can be reversed by manipulating culture and policy.
This has absolutely nothing to do with race and everything to do with watering down American culture with the poor and uneducated from oppressive nations.
Loose the racist bull shit, you're falling for a leftist agenda of "Divide and Conquer".
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 08:06:59 AM
This has absolutely nothing to do with race and everything to do with watering down American culture with the poor and uneducated from oppressive nations.
Loose the racist bull shit, you're falling for a leftist agenda of "Divide and Conquer".
Racism is evil. Culturism is perfectly fine. The problem comes when the left tries to tie culture to race, implying that those born white or black or brown are somehow predisposed towards certain kinds of cultures. This in itself is a racist idea. Case in point, russia, a very leftist nation, is full of whites! And there are places in asia, like Singapore, (full of brown asians), which are in many ways more free than america.
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 08:06:59 AM
This has absolutely nothing to do with race and everything to do with watering down American culture with the poor and uneducated from oppressive nations.
Loose the racist bull shit, you're falling for a leftist agenda of "Divide and Conquer".
In fact, the dividing and conquering is done via false racial theory--the idea that "race doesn't exist," or that all racial groups magically have the same tendencies and capacities.
Once this theory is accepted, leftist ringleaders are able to depict whites as evil, and inflame nonwhites into hating us, because if we all have the same potentials, then why have whites done so much, and why do whites create such prosperous societies? Or put the other way, why have most nonwhite groups done so little, historically, and why do most nonwhite groups underperform in first world societies?
If we all have the same capacities, and yet whites are extraordinarily successful, then it is natural to assume that whites "cheated" and are in inherently evil.
That is the leftist scheme. You may have noticed that the main propaganda device of the modern left is demonization of whites.
The antidote to this is to be frank about group differences, not to join the leftists in screaming "racist" at fellow right-wingers.
Look into YouTuber Stefan Molyneux's many conversations with top experts on this topic. Molyneux is trying to deescalate by helping people understand that racial IQ averages, not racial prejudices, determine group outcomes. Once this is understood, leftists will have a much harder time dividing us against each other.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 08:46:02 AM
In fact, the dividing and conquering is done via false racial theory--the idea that "race doesn't exist," or that all racial groups magically have the same tendencies and capacities.
Once this theory is accepted, leftist ringleaders are able to depict whites as evil, and inflame nonwhites into hating us, because if we all have the same potentials, then why have whites done so much, and why do whites create such prosperous societies? Or put the other way, why have most nonwhite groups done so little, historically, and why do most nonwhite groups underperform in first world societies?
If we all have the same capacities, and yet whites are extraordinarily successful, then it is natural to assume that whites "cheated" and are in inherently evil.
That is the leftist scheme. You may have noticed that the main propaganda device of the modern left is demonization of whites.
The antidote to this is to be frank about group differences, not to join the leftists in screaming "racist" at fellow right-wingers.
Look into YouTuber Stefan Molyneux's many conversations with top experts on this topic. Molyneux is trying to deescalate by helping people understand that racial IQ averages, not racial prejudices, determine group outcomes. Once this is understood, leftists will have a much harder time dividing us against each other.
Do you believe everything leftists tell you to believe?
Quote from: T Hunt on October 15, 2019, 08:29:41 AM
Racism is evil. Culturism is perfectly fine. The problem comes when the left tries to tie culture to race, implying that those born white or black or brown are somehow predisposed towards certain kinds of cultures. This in itself is a racist idea. Case in point, russia, a very leftist nation, is full of whites! And there are places in asia, like Singapore, (full of brown asians), which are in many ways more free than america.
"Racism" is a word with no concrete definition. To the left, the mere existence of white people is "racism." It is not a real concept, it is a control device, a vague thing that you are supposed to be afraid of and denounce.
When you use the word, you hand over victory to your enemies. You are stating that white people are not allowed our own spaces or our own group identity. Because it is "racism" for white people to recognize group differences.
And, since we are not allowed to recognize group differences, we are not allowed to resist the degrading of our societies, culture, and even bloodlines, that occurs when low IQ groups invade our spaces.
That's how they ultimately win, by controlling you through your fear of "racism."
Quote from: taxed on October 15, 2019, 08:55:16 AM
Do you believe everything leftists tell you to believe?
Obviously not if you read my comments. But you had better understand that women, children, weak white men, and low IQ nonwhites tend to believe everything that leftists feed them.
That is where the dividing and conquering is occurring, and that is how our society has been torn apart and will ultimately be destroyed.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 08:46:02 AM
In fact, the dividing and conquering is done via false racial theory--the idea that "race doesn't exist," or that all racial groups magically have the same tendencies and capacities.
Once this theory is accepted, leftist ringleaders are able to depict whites as evil, and inflame nonwhites into hating us, because if we all have the same potentials, then why have whites done so much, and why do whites create such prosperous societies? Or put the other way, why have most nonwhite groups done so little, historically, and why do most nonwhite groups underperform in first world societies?
If we all have the same capacities, and yet whites are extraordinarily successful, then it is natural to assume that whites "cheated" and are in inherently evil.
That is the leftist scheme. You may have noticed that the main propaganda device of the modern left is demonization of whites.
The antidote to this is to be frank about group differences, not to join the leftists in screaming "racist" at fellow right-wingers.
Look into YouTuber Stefan Molyneux's many conversations with top experts on this topic. Molyneux is trying to deescalate by helping people understand that racial IQ averages, not racial prejudices, determine group outcomes. Once this is understood, leftists will have a much harder time dividing us against each other.
I don't need people that call themselves experts. If you take a white kid and a black kid and raise them both in a crack den by a mother that does not care about them then they are likely to turn out to be losers. If you take both of them and good parents raise them in Iowa City they are more likely to turn out to be good citizens.
However, if you chose to identify yourself by your race then others are going to identify you by that race. You can't be asking for special treatment because of your race and then expect not to be defined by it and also resented for it.
Culturalism is now used as a term meaning that I don't have common interests or want anything to do with the majority.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 08:46:02 AM
In fact, the dividing and conquering is done via false racial theory--the idea that "race doesn't exist," or that all racial groups magically have the same tendencies and capacities.
Once this theory is accepted, leftist ringleaders are able to depict whites as evil, and inflame nonwhites into hating us, because if we all have the same potentials, then why have whites done so much, and why do whites create such prosperous societies? Or put the other way, why have most nonwhite groups done so little, historically, and why do most nonwhite groups underperform in first world societies?
If we all have the same capacities, and yet whites are extraordinarily successful, then it is natural to assume that whites "cheated" and are in inherently evil.
That is the leftist scheme. You may have noticed that the main propaganda device of the modern left is demonization of whites.
The antidote to this is to be frank about group differences, not to join the leftists in screaming "racist" at fellow right-wingers.
Look into YouTuber Stefan Molyneux's many conversations with top experts on this topic. Molyneux is trying to deescalate by helping people understand that racial IQ averages, not racial prejudices, determine group outcomes. Once this is understood, leftists will have a much harder time dividing us against each other.
Culture, not race is the difference in the equation. IQ is a racist concept as well. Open your eyes, people are people, the only difference is culture.
You are buying into the Marxists divide and conquer, so quit seeing the world in black and white. Flooding our country with people unable to provide for themselves is how the left creates a culture of dependents.
Just look at the black community and how the left destroyed them, that's what they want with all the illegals.
The culture we want them to appreciate is ours, the American culture. I know that, nothing I tell you is going to make any difference, but I suggest you try and focus your anger where it belongs, at the Marxists Dims and quit falling for their agenda of racism and racial division.
Quote from: carolina73 on October 15, 2019, 09:11:56 AM
I don't need people that call themselves experts. If you take a white kid and a black kid and raise them both in a crack den by a mother that does not care about them then they are likely to turn out to be losers. If you take both of them and good parents raise them in Iowa City they are more likely to turn out to be good citizens.
However, if you chose to identify yourself by your race then others are going to identify you by that race. You can't be asking for special treatment because of your race and then expect not to be defined by it and also resented for it.
Culturalism is now used as a term meaning that I don't have common interests or want anything to do with the majority.
It is not a question of individual circumstances but how group averages play out. The major trends leave no room for doubt. There are not, and have never been, any black or brown first world--or even industrialized--nations. And all black and brown areas in Western nations are high crime and low income. To my knowledge there is not a single exception to this.
These are hundreds, even thousands, of case studies playing out in exactly the same way. Black and brown populations cannot maintain, much less create, low crime, stable, solvent, high tech societies.
The more a Western society becomes brown or black, the more it will stop functioning. Obviously, you can see this all over the US, in California, Detroit, Baltimore, and in every major city in Europe that has a large brown and/or black population.
*Edit, there are some brown industrialized nations, such as India, but these nations are not what we think of as civilized, they have simply been able to strike a balance in which they can maintain a minimum of basic infrastructure.
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 09:20:30 AM
Culture, not race is the difference in the equation. IQ is a racist concept as well. Open your eyes, people are people, the only difference is culture.
You are buying into the Marxists divide and conquer, so quit seeing the world in black and white. Flooding our country with people unable to provide for themselves is how the left creates a culture of dependents.
Just look at the black community and how the left destroyed them, that's what they want with all the illegals.
The culture we want them to appreciate is ours, the American culture. I know that, nothing I tell you is going to make any difference, but I suggest you try and focus your anger where it belongs, at the Marxists Dims and quit falling for their agenda of racism and racial division.
IQ is a racist concept???? Are you saying that intelligence does not vary, and cannot be measured with standardized tests?
Do you realize that "IQ is a racist concept" is a standard leftist talking point? Interesting, isn't it, how once you accept their premises, you end up arguing against the most basic common sense, even when you imagine that you are a right-winger.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 09:27:03 AM
It is not a question of individual circumstances but how group averages play out. The major trends leave no room for doubt. There are not, and have never been, any black or brown first world--or even industrialized--nations. And all black and brown areas in Western nations are high crime and low income. To my knowledge there is not a single exception to this.
These are hundreds, even thousands, of case studies playing out in exactly the same way. Black and brown populations cannot maintain, much less create, low crime, stable, solvent, high tech societies.
The more a Western society becomes brown or black, the more it will stop functioning. Obviously, you can see this all over the US, in California, Detroit, Baltimore, and in every major city in Europe that has a large brown and/or black population.
Again, this is about culture not race. White society developed in colder climates which required innovation and cooperation. Same goes for Asians, they too needed cooperation to succeed as a people.
While darker races had a completely different set of challenges. But American culture is unique to the human race, where the freedom to achieve as an individual is prized.
The way our immigration was setup for success was to allow only people with talent or a proven ability to support themselves.
All of this has changed thanks to leftists in both party's. I stress again, you're being led like Pavlov's puppy into the evils of racial hatred dog whistles.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 09:33:20 AM
IQ is a racist concept???? Are you saying that intelligence does not vary, and cannot be measured with standardized tests?
Do you realize that "IQ is a racist concept" is a standard leftist talking point? Interesting, isn't it, how once you accept their premises, you end up arguing against the most basic common sense, even when you imagine that you are a right-winger.
As a life long Conservative I recognized the racist connection at 10 years old after having been rated in the genius category.
I may be a genius in certain areas, but I can be dumb as a post in other areas where someone of "Color" would exceed my abilities beyond belief.
No, the test was designed to make elites look good to one another. Look up its history and discover the truth for yourself.
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 09:39:07 AM
Again, this is about culture not race. White society developed in colder climates which required innovation and cooperation. Same goes for Asians, they too needed cooperation to succeed as a people.
While darker races had a completely different set of challenges. But American culture is unique to the human race, where the freedom to achieve as an individual is prized.
The way our immigration was setup for success was to allow only people with talent or a proven ability to support themselves.
All of this has changed thanks to leftists in both party's. I stress again, you're being led like Pavlov's puppy into the evils of racial hatred dog whistles.
Again, you are arguing from leftist premises, which will cause you to arrive at leftist conclusions. And you are contradicting yourself.
You say that it is not about race, and then you describe evolutionary factors (cold vs warm) which set the races apart. So, then, it is about race. The races are are adapted to prosper in different environments.
And your interpretation of the US "culture" is leftist mythology.
The US was founded primarily as an Anglo-Saxon nation, and then the immigrant pool was broadened, but it was always centered on whites. The first immigration act of 1790 opened citizenship up only to "free white persons." In order to settle the Midwest and west, a lot of different white groups were allowed in in the 19th century, but all the immigration policies centered on keeping the US white.
In 1924 the National Origins Act effectively cut off immigration from areas that weren't North-Western European. Why? Because it was understood, based on the previous few decades, that even Eastern and Southern Europeans did not fit easily into our Anglo-Saxon systems.
The idea of turning the US brown or black, even when Hart-Celler was passed in 1965, was too absurd to even think about.
No average American thought of the US as a multiracial project "bringing in the best people from everywhere" until very recently. That line of thinking is a cultural Marxist hoax.
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 09:44:27 AM
As a life long Conservative I recognized the racist connection at 10 years old after having been rated in the genius category.
I may be a genius in certain areas, but I can be dumb as a post in other areas where someone of "Color" would exceed my abilities beyond belief.
No, the test was designed to make elites look good to one another. Look up its history and discover the truth for yourself.
Again, your take is pure left-wing pablum. Look up "g factor." Intelligence can be focused in different areas, but there is a general base of comprehension and ability, and that is what the IQ rating indicates.
We know IQ is valid because the test of valid science is the ability to make predictions. IQ ratings correlate very neatly with criminality, different income averages, life expectancy, different types of achievement, etc.
The military gives a standardized test and excludes people with intelligence levels below a certain fixed point, comparable to the low 90s, and sometimes the low 80s, in regular IQ ratings. What do you make of this fact?
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 09:39:07 AM
Again, this is about culture not race. White society developed in colder climates which required innovation and cooperation. Same goes for Asians, they too needed cooperation to succeed as a people.
While darker races had a completely different set of challenges. But American culture is unique to the human race, where the freedom to achieve as an individual is prized.
The way our immigration was setup for success was to allow only people with talent or a proven ability to support themselves.
All of this has changed thanks to leftists in both party's. I stress again, you're being led like Pavlov's puppy into the evils of racial hatred dog whistles.
After absorbing several posts from Shaw it is clear he is obsessed with race. We are a country of folks from all over the world. We have succeeded as a country because everyone came here with a simple desire, better themselves. Those who assimilated to this ideal have been part of the success. History tells us those who do not aspire to assimilation have struggled and look for scapegoats for their lack of success. It has nothing to do with race or national origin.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 09:59:56 AM
Again, you are arguing from leftist premises, which will cause you to arrive at leftist conclusions. And you are contradicting yourself.
You say that it is not about race, and then you describe evolutionary factors (cold vs warm) which set the races apart. So, then, it is about race. The races are are adapted to prosper in different environments.
I very clearly explained culture and how it came about. If one was to buy into your BS, one would think people of any color but white are evil and stupid by birth.
QuoteAnd your interpretation of the US "culture" is leftist mythology.
Really, this is leftist mythology?
"The way our immigration was setup for success was to allow only people with talent or a proven ability to support themselves."
I suggest you look at the laws still on the books Re: requirements to enter the US. And by the way, we have always accepted population percentages from Nations around the world. That is fact, it has no leftist connotation, only your bigoted myopic view of race.
QuoteThe US was founded primarily as an Anglo-Saxon nation, and then the immigrant pool was broadened, but it was always centered on whites. The first immigration act of 1790 opened citizenship up only to "free white persons." In order to settle the Midwest and west, a lot of different white groups were allowed in in the 19th century, but all the immigration policies centered on keeping the US white.
Nice bastardization of history.
"The 1790 law allowed any immigrant who was a "free white person" to become a citizen after living in the United States for two years. Most obviously, this clause excluded Africans brought to the United States as slaves."
You do know this was designed due to current slaves in the US, right? At the same time, women did not have the vote either.
Point being, we were a young Nation going through growing pains.
Quote
In 1924 the National Origins Act effectively cut off immigration from areas that weren't North-Western European. Why? Because it was understood, based on the previous few decades, that even Eastern and Southern Europeans did not fit easily into our Anglo-Saxon systems.
The idea of turning the US brown or black, even when Hart-Celler was passed in 1965, was too absurd to even think about.
No average American thought of the US as a multiracial project "bringing in the best people from everywhere" until very recently. That line of thinking is a cultural Marxist hoax.
Your own post proves it to be the truth in spite of your wishes.
All ratified in 1965-Immigration to the United States opened too all persons from all countries.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 10:11:32 AM
Again, your take is pure left-wing pablum. Look up "g factor." Intelligence can be focused in different areas, but there is a general base of comprehension and ability, and that is what the IQ rating indicates.
We know IQ is valid because the test of valid science is the ability to make predictions. IQ ratings correlate very neatly with criminality, different income averages, life expectancy, different types of achievement, etc.
The military gives a standardized test and excludes people with intelligence levels below a certain fixed point, comparable to the low 90s, and sometimes the low 80s, in regular IQ ratings. What do you make of this fact?
I was referring to the early IQ tests, the ones designed for graduates of elitist colleges as way of claiming superiority over others. Test used today vary as much as grains of sand on a beach. Aptitude tests are often mistaken for IQ tests.
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 15, 2019, 10:47:50 AM
After absorbing several posts from Shaw it is clear he is obsessed with race. We are a country of folks from all over the world. We have succeeded as a country because everyone came here with a simple desire, better themselves. Those who assimilated to this ideal have been part of the success. History tells us those who do not aspire to assimilation have struggled and look for scapegoats for their lack of success. It has nothing to do with race or national origin.
Yep, spotted his bigotry in his first post. He's fallen for Soros plan in destroying harmony in the US. The guy is a pawn and doesn't even know it.
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 15, 2019, 10:47:50 AM
After absorbing several posts from Shaw it is clear he is obsessed with race. We are a country of folks from all over the world. We have succeeded as a country because everyone came here with a simple desire, better themselves. Those who assimilated to this ideal have been part of the success. History tells us those who do not aspire to assimilation have struggled and look for scapegoats for their lack of success. It has nothing to do with race or national origin.
Well, no, you are also repeating empty left-wing talking points.
The US succeeded for 3 reasons: A high IQ, Western population; Western legal, scientific, and philosophical traditions; and a massive territory to exploit/develop.
This statement would not be controversial to any of the founders, to Andrew Jackson or Teddy Roosevelt, or to any regular American, up to about 1960. Nobody ever thought of the US as a multiracial projected until very recently.
You have been brainwashed by cultural Marxists into this need to virtue about not being "racist." This is a new phenomenon. It is poison to conservatism, which is why conservatives have done nothing but lose since about 1960.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 11:47:31 AM
Well, no, you are also repeating empty left-wing talking points.
The US succeeded for 3 reasons: A high IQ, Western population; Western legal, scientific, and philosophical traditions; and a massive territory to exploit/develop.
This statement would not be controversial to any of the founders, to Andrew Jackson or Teddy Roosevelt, or to any regular American, up to about 1960. Nobody ever thought of the US as a multiracial projected until very recently.
You have been brainwashed by cultural Marxists into this need to virtue about not being "racist." This is a new phenomenon. It is poison to conservatism, which is why conservatives have done nothing but lose since about 1960.
Holy Cow! Solar, Walks, Boo, Taxed, etc;, I have had you guys fooled for several years. I am a Marxist and it took Shaw to out me.
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 15, 2019, 12:05:22 PM
Holy Cow! Solar, Walks, Boo, Taxed, etc;, I have had you guys fooled for several years. I am a Marxist and it took Shaw to out me.
LOL Shaw is a troll flinging poo just to see if anything will stick.
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 11:07:23 AM
Yep, spotted his bigotry in his first post. He's fallen for Soros plan in destroying harmony in the US. The guy is a pawn and doesn't even know it.
Maybe you can appreciate the irony. Probably not. Your entire defense against my points is calling me "bigot" and "racist."
You actually imagine that you are defending right-wing values by smearing your own side with left-wing scare-words.
It would be quite funny if it wasn't so depressing.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 09:59:56 AM
Again, you are arguing from leftist premises, which will cause you to arrive at leftist conclusions. And you are contradicting yourself.
You say that it is not about race, and then you describe evolutionary factors (cold vs warm) which set the races apart. So, then, it is about race. The races are are adapted to prosper in different environments.
And your interpretation of the US "culture" is leftist mythology.
The US was founded primarily as an Anglo-Saxon nation, and then the immigrant pool was broadened, but it was always centered on whites. The first immigration act of 1790 opened citizenship up only to "free white persons." In order to settle the Midwest and west, a lot of different white groups were allowed in in the 19th century, but all the immigration policies centered on keeping the US white.
In 1924 the National Origins Act effectively cut off immigration from areas that weren't North-Western European. Why? Because it was understood, based on the previous few decades, that even Eastern and Southern Europeans did not fit easily into our Anglo-Saxon systems.
The idea of turning the US brown or black, even when Hart-Celler was passed in 1965, was too absurd to even think about.
No average American thought of the US as a multiracial project "bringing in the best people from everywhere" until very recently. That line of thinking is a cultural Marxist hoax.
What was described were conditions which made learning necessary. Another way to put it, kids in school will pass more tests than kids who do not go to school. That has nothing to do with race. If you really think the United States was founded based off of hitler type racism, it is obvious you do not understand history of this country and will not learn. Racism has no place in this world, not now, not ever.
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 15, 2019, 12:05:22 PM
Holy Cow! Solar, Walks, Boo, Taxed, etc;, I have had you guys fooled for several years. I am a Marxist and it took Shaw to out me.
This is literally true, unfortunately. You have been brainwashed into Marxist equality lies. If you cannot acknowledge that different races and sexes have different fixed traits and produce very different social results, you end up at Marxist conclusions.
That's the big joke. You guys have rendered yourself defenseless, because you have to prove what egalitarians you are. So they just weaponize women, march in brown and black people by the million, and vote your basic rights away.
And even as what I am describing unfolds right in front of your eyes, as the US goes down the toilet, you keep on virtue signaling.
That's some hardcore brainwashing.
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 12:24:11 PM
What was described were conditions which made learning necessary. Another way to put it, kids in school will pass more tests than kids who do not go to school. That has nothing to do with race. If you really think the United States was founded based off of hitler type racism, it is obvious you do not understand history of this country and will not learn. Racism has no place in this world, not now, not ever.
Nature is racist. There are a billion people in black Africa. Not even 1 successful small city run by blacks in that territory. Same pattern plays out wherever there is a concentration of blacks anywhere on the globe, in the US, in Europe, in Latin America.
Different version of this plays out with all groups. They build the same types of societies, and manifest the same averages, wherever they are concentrated. Whites create European-type civilization in the Americas, in Australia, in South Africa. Light-skinned Asians create their "ant hill" societies wherever there are enough of them to control the culture.
As I've said, you are denying the most basic reality, which you see with your own eyes, and which all relevant statistics demonstrate. This is Marxist brainwashing.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 12:26:03 PM
This is literally true, unfortunately. You have been brainwashed into Marxist equality lies. If you cannot acknowledge that different races and sexes have different fixed traits and produce very different social results, you end up at Marxist conclusions.
That's the big joke. You guys have rendered yourself defenseless, because you have to prove what egalitarians you are. So they just weaponize women, march in brown and black people by the million, and vote your basic rights away.
And even as what I am describing unfolds right in front of your eyes, as the US goes down the toilet, you keep on virtue signaling.
That's some hardcore brainwashing.
"If you cannot acknowledge that different races and sexes have different fixed traits and produce very different social results, you end up at Marxist conclusions."
I acknowledge the sexes have some different traits by God's design. Not the same with races. Different races will have different cultural traits, but that in no way means one is superior to the other.
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 15, 2019, 12:37:48 PM
"If you cannot acknowledge that different races and sexes have different fixed traits and produce very different social results, you end up at Marxist conclusions."
I acknowledge the sexes have some different traits by God's design. Not the same with races. Different races will have different cultural traits, but that in no way means one is superior to the other.
"Superior" is more Marxist spin, part of your brainwashing. The plain fact is, different groups, as their traits and tendencies average out, produce different social outcomes.
Women will always be more swayed by appeals to emotion than men. This being the case, their parenting strategies, voting patterns, general policy preferences will be different. The differences objectively exist. Whether they are "superior" depends on subjective interpretation.
Same with races. They have different ways of being, and different ways of thinking. They have different inborn preferences and tendencies. If you want to produce European-style civilization, blacks, browns or yellows ain't gonna get you there. Yes, you will have better results with yellows, but you still will get something other than Christian or Jeffersonian laws and standards.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 09:01:10 AM
Obviously not if you read my comments. But you had better understand that women, children, weak white men, and low IQ nonwhites tend to believe everything that leftists feed them.
That is where the dividing and conquering is occurring, and that is how our society has been torn apart and will ultimately be destroyed.
They're a small minority. Why should I care about them?
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 09:33:20 AM
IQ is a racist concept???? Are you saying that intelligence does not vary, and cannot be measured with standardized tests?
Do you realize that "IQ is a racist concept" is a standard leftist talking point? Interesting, isn't it, how once you accept their premises, you end up arguing against the most basic common sense, even when you imagine that you are a right-winger.
Are you still trying to bait us into saying that non-white races are intellectually inferior? Does that usually work?
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 15, 2019, 12:05:22 PM
Holy Cow! Solar, Walks, Boo, Taxed, etc;, I have had you guys fooled for several years. I am a Marxist and it took Shaw to out me.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I should have known by how big your beard is getting....
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 12:36:06 PM
Nature is racist. There are a billion people in black Africa. Not even 1 successful small city run by blacks in that territory. Same pattern plays out wherever there is a concentration of blacks anywhere on the globe, in the US, in Europe, in Latin America.
Different version of this plays out with all groups. They build the same types of societies, and manifest the same averages, wherever they are concentrated. Whites create European-type civilization in the Americas, in Australia, in South Africa. Light-skinned Asians create their "ant hill" societies wherever there are enough of them to control the culture.
As I've said, you are denying the most basic reality, which you see with your own eyes, and which all relevant statistics demonstrate. This is Marxist brainwashing.
so when we see people of all colors who do well here and learn are we to think they left their skin color at the door? I think closer to the point is you're a racist who can only see what you want. there are people of all colors who have a better IQ than you. How would you explain that.
Quote from: taxed on October 15, 2019, 01:01:18 PM
Are you still trying to bait us into saying that non-white races are intellectually inferior? Does that usually work?
I'm trying to help you by pointing out the races have different fixed traits. This is Western civilization. It's a white thing. Has never been anything else. You people have been duped into believing that nonwhite groups can, or even care to, maintain your society.
There is zero evidence for this. And endless evidence for the opposite conclusion. But you must virtue signal.
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 01:35:57 PM
so when we see people of all colors who do well here and learn are we to think they left their skin color at the door? I think closer to the point is you're a racist who can only see what you want. there are people of all colors who have a better IQ than you. How would you explain that.
Do you know what the word "averages" means?
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 01:36:56 PM
Do you know what the word "averages" means?
that did not answer the question
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 01:40:34 PM
that did not answer the question
lol yes it did, but I will clarify.
Your question was
there are people of all colors who have a better IQ than you. How would you explain that.The argument is not that it is impossible for a brown or black person to be highly intelligent, it is that high intelligence happens far less frequently among brown and black people than among light-skinned people. And for that matter, what we consider medium-range intelligence (about 100) happens far less frequently among brown and black people.
To maintain a first world society, you need high rates of medium-range and above average intelligence. Black and brown people do not produce these rates.
There are certainly individual dark-skinned people who are smarter than me, but what decides the issue is group averages--whether there are enough high IQ blacks and browns to mastermind complex infrastructure and keep all the machines and systems running.
(https://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/IQ_Bladk_White.jpg)
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 01:36:05 PM
I'm trying to help you by pointing out the races have different fixed traits. This is Western civilization. It's a white thing. Has never been anything else. You people have been duped into believing that nonwhite groups can, or even care to, maintain your society.
There is zero evidence for this. And endless evidence for the opposite conclusion. But you must virtue signal.
You're really trying hard. Again, does this work at other places?
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 01:40:34 PM
that did not answer the question
Here's CPF playing with shaw while he sits on the porch...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsC4kf6x_Q0
Quote from: taxed on October 15, 2019, 02:05:39 PM
You're really trying hard. Again, does this work at other places?
Yes, it does. You may have noticed that the Marxist are having to censor race realist discussions, and that younger generations of whites are becoming intensely race conscious. The facts are the facts. Once they get out, people wise up.
Quote from: taxed on October 15, 2019, 02:06:50 PM
Here's CPF playing with shaw while he sits on the porch...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsC4kf6x_Q0
More of your Marxist brainwashing. The inbred hillbilly smear is a commie device to shame you into betraying your race and nation.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 02:11:42 PM
Yes, it does. You may have noticed that the Marxist are having to censor race realist discussions, and that younger generations of whites are becoming intensely race conscious. The facts are the facts. Once they get out, people wise up.
Marxists seek to disrupt society. That's what you're trying to do. It's different outside the classroom, isn't it?
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 02:16:15 PM
More of your Marxist brainwashing. The inbred hillbilly smear is a commie device to shame you into betraying your race and nation.
Actually, the inbred smear was to highlight your lack of intellectual foresight. Instead of highlighting how our society is healing and turning around, you choose a topic tailor-made for a simpleton. You make Alinsky proud.
Quote from: taxed on October 15, 2019, 02:21:44 PM
Actually, the inbred smear was to highlight your lack of intellectual foresight. Instead of highlighting how our society is healing and turning around, you choose a topic tailor-made for a simpleton. You make Alinsky proud.
Man, you people are pretty far gone.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 12:13:51 PM
Maybe you can appreciate the irony. Probably not. Your entire defense against my points is calling me "bigot" and "racist."
You actually imagine that you are defending right-wing values by smearing your own side with left-wing scare-words.
It would be quite funny if it wasn't so depressing.
You failed in your need conflate illegal immigration and legal immigration, laws that have been on the books for decades as somehow connected, is truly fanciful.
As I stated earlier, the Leftists in both party's are responsible. The flood of illegals from Latin America and varying countries is all a two part leftist ploy. One, cheap labor, the other, to destroy American Culture.
Again, this has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with flooding the US with semi literate unskilled people so the Dims can create a permanent under class of voters (see black communities in the inner city).
Son, I was born Conservative, I also know Conservatism is not about bigotry and not about stopping progress, it's about doing what works.
You complain that we are losing to people of color, then attack those trying to explain the reasons behind this move, when in fact we are the very people demanding our laws be followed.
So what's your solution, how does it differ from mine, are you saying we should start killing people who came here illegally? Because you definitely sound like you're angry enough to do something truly stupid.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 02:42:06 PM
Man, you people are pretty far gone.
It will get even better when all the racist are gone. Racist contribute nothing.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 02:42:06 PM
Man, you people are pretty far gone.
Nobody buys the "there's gonna' be a race war" crap. Save that for Facebook.
Quote from: taxed on October 15, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
Nobody buys the "there's gonna' be a race war" crap. Save that for Facebook.
Even facebook does not need that kind of crap. That needs to stay in his mom's basement.
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 02:49:11 PM
Even facebook does not need that kind of crap. That needs to stay in his mom's basement.
Trailers don't have basements...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 02:44:59 PM
It will get even better when all the racist are gone. Racist contribute nothing.
Thomas Jefferson owned blacks. All of the founders signed off on slavery, many embraced it. None ever said that blacks or Indians should be part of our society. Jackson was resolute about keeping both blacks and indians in their place. Lincoln worked to relocate America's blacks to Africa. Henry Ford published The International Jew. Race theorists Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard were leading intellectuals of early 20th century America.
All of your ancestors, all of the people who built our civilization, to the extent they came into contact with alien groups, were "racists" and "bigots."
You're the exception...due to Marxist brainwashing.
Quote from: taxed on October 15, 2019, 02:49:56 PM
Trailers don't have basements...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Don't tell him about.
https://latinosfortrump.us/upcoming-events
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 02:44:53 PM
You failed in your need conflate illegal immigration and legal immigration, laws that have been on the books for decades as somehow connected, is truly fanciful.
As I stated earlier, the Leftists in both party's are responsible. The flood of illegals from Latin America and varying countries is all a two part leftist ploy. One, cheap labor, the other, to destroy American Culture.
Again, this has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with flooding the US with semi literate unskilled people so the Dims can create a permanent under class of voters (see black communities in the inner city).
Son, I was born Conservative, I also know Conservatism is not about bigotry and not about stopping progress, it's about doing what works.
You complain that we are losing to people of color, then attack those trying to explain the reasons behind this move, when in fact we are the very people demanding our laws be followed.
So what's your solution, how does it differ from mine, are you saying we should start killing people who came here illegally? Because you definitely sound like you're angry enough to do something truly stupid.
Really? I don't think I have an angry tone. I think what we're dealing with here is a generational difference. I assume you're a baby boomer. Your generation was inundated with slavery and evil nazi propaganda, so you're terrified of simply admitting that nonwhites do not add, on average, to white societies....and moreover that nonwhites, when there are enough of them, utterly destroy white society.
I mean, this is the empirical, objective, observable fact. Doesn't matter if the come legally or illegally. If there are enough of them to change the culture and standards, you get the third world...at best.
What do I propose to do about it? Well the point I'm making here is, nothing can be done about it until we acknowledge reality. After that, there are many, many solutions. There does not need to be violence, just policy and culture manipulations.
Quote from: taxed on October 15, 2019, 02:49:56 PM
Trailers don't have basements...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Anti-white stereotypes. Not even remotely clever, and pure cuckoldry. Shall we cart out some black or Jewish stereotypes? Wouldn't stand for that, would you? The commies only trained you to denigrate your own people.
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 03:03:37 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Don't tell him about.
https://latinosfortrump.us/upcoming-events
Genius, nobody is arguing that some contingent of blacks, Latinos or even Muslims can't be good people with good intentions.
The argument--no the objective, well-documented fact--is that, once you get enough of them, racial averages take over, and society becomes poor, dysfunctional and crime-ridden.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 02:56:28 PM
Thomas Jefferson owned blacks. All of the founders signed off on slavery, many embraced it. None ever said that blacks or Indians should be part of our society. Jackson was resolute about keeping both blacks and indians in their place. Lincoln worked to relocate America's blacks to Africa. Henry Ford published The International Jew. Race theorists Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard were leading intellectuals of early 20th century America.
All of your ancestors, all of the people who built our civilization, to the extent they came into contact with alien groups, were "racists" and "bigots."
You're the exception...due to Marxist brainwashing.
Again, racist contribute nothing.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 03:07:08 PM
Really? I don't think I have an angry tone. I think what we're dealing with here is a generational difference. I assume you're a baby boomer. Your generation was inundated with slavery and evil nazi propaganda, so you're terrified of simply admitting that nonwhites do not add, on average, to white societies....and moreover that nonwhites, when there are enough of them, utterly destroy white society.
Yet you still ignore the real issue, illegals flooding the country.
QuoteI mean, this is the empirical, objective, observable fact. Doesn't matter if the come legally or illegally. If there are enough of them to change the culture and standards, you get the third world...at best.
What do I propose to do about it? Well the point I'm making here is, nothing can be done about it until we acknowledge reality. After that, there are many, many solutions. There does not need to be violence, just policy and culture manipulations.
I'm a native Californian of the 50s, I remember the state before the leftists destroyed it and passed laws allowing illegals to birth in our hospitals.
Yes, I knew back then what they were up to, but with a Legislature full of leftist RINO, our future was written in stone as evidenced of the shithole the state has become.
What you're witnessing is the result of 40+ years of leftist doing what they do best, destroying cultures. Again, this has nothing to do with race and everything to do with flooding the US with illiterate leeches that just happen to not be white.
I can point to many failed white communities around the globe, and the root of the cancer is leftist govt.
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 03:18:41 PM
Again, racist contribute nothing.
So you renounce the founding fathers, and all the people who built our country through the 19th and early 20th century?
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 03:21:47 PM
Yet you still ignore the real issue, illegals flooding the country.
I'm a native Californian of the 50s, I remember the state before the leftists destroyed it and passed laws allowing illegals to birth in our hospitals.
Yes, I knew back then what they were up to, but with a Legislature full of leftist RINO, our future was written in stone as evidenced of the shithole the state has become.
What you're witnessing is the result of 40+ years of leftist doing what they do best, destroying cultures. Again, this has nothing to do with race and everything to do with flooding the US with illiterate leeches that just happen to not be white.
I can point to many failed white communities around the globe, and the root of the cancer is leftist govt.
You have a good mix of truth and delusion. No, you cannot point to many failed white communities, comparatively speaking. There is successful white nation after successful white nation, all over the world, and stable, lawful white communities throughout those nations. Yes, there are poor and relatively backward white areas, but these are rare...and they are still not as dangerous as poor black and brown areas.
With black and brown groups, it is the opposite. Failure, by first world standards, is the rule, and success, by white standards, is extremely rare.
This is what averages tell us. We know what we can expect when a white area goes brown or black. We will get the third world, or Zimbabwe. Every time. Check the statistics.
Race is not the only issue, but that is the main crisis at the moment. The commies have engineered this invasion, and this anti-white propaganda war, and it's made possible because folks like you are afraid of calling a spade a spade. If you can't be "racist," you can't defend against what they are doing.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 03:24:13 PM
So you renounce the founding fathers, and all the people who built our country through the 19th and early 20th century?
Have a hard time reading do we? I said racist contribute nothing. Many of this countries early beliefs changed when it became evident some ideas were wrong. The principles of our founding fathers became stronger when all citizens were included. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has to include all or it means nothing. This country is stronger because all men are created equal. Slavery was a mistake, or are you trying to justify it?
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 03:40:30 PM
Have a hard time reading do we? I said racist contribute nothing. Many of this countries early beliefs changed when it became evident some ideas were wrong. The principles of our founding fathers became stronger when all citizens were included. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has to include all or it means nothing. This country is stronger because all men are created equal. Slavery was a mistake, or are you trying to justify it?
Well, if you look at violent crime rates, and at how blacks manage their own lives, not only here, but in sub-Saharan Africa, then it's reasonable to conclude that they benefit when a higher IQ group runs things.
Did you know that about 3% of the population, young black men, commits about 50% of our violent crime? Did you know that blacks are a net loss, in terms of wealth produced and resources consumed, in our society? Did you know that even in some of our most lavishly funded schools, they still have the nations lowest academic achievement?
If we just look at the facts, read the statistics, everything lines up with what the "racists" have been saying for centuries.
But I know, those bigots didn't watch enough TV and Hollywood movies. They never got to listen to commie professors. You're much better informed than the US founders and all of your ancestors.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 03:56:57 PM
Well, if you look at violent crime rates, and at how blacks manage their own lives, not only here, but in sub-Saharan Africa, then it's reasonable to conclude that they benefit when a higher IQ group runs things.
Did you know that about 3% of the population, young black men, commits about 50% of our violent crime? Did you know that blacks are a net loss, in terms of wealth produced and resources consumed, in our society? Did you know that even in some of our most lavishly funded schools, they still have the nations lowest academic achievement?
If we just look at the facts, read the statistics, everything lines up with what the "racists" have been saying for centuries.
But I know, those bigots didn't watch enough TV and Hollywood movies. They never got to listen to commie professors. You're much better informed than the US founders and all of your ancestors.
And this is your reasons for justifying slavery? As I said, racist contribute nothing.
Quote from: s3779m on October 15, 2019, 04:14:34 PM
And this is your reasons for justifying slavery? As I said, racist contribute nothing.
That is the necessary context for understanding black slavery. I know, you're a boomer, so you can't process it unless it's acted for you in a movie or spoon-fed to you by a TV newsman. Just take my word for it, it's a complicated issue.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 03:37:34 PM
You have a good mix of truth and delusion.
What delusions? It's all true!
QuoteNo, you cannot point to many failed white communities,
UK for one, but most of Europe is failing. and it's all because of Marxist policy, add to that, flooding the countries with immigrants, another Marxist policy.
Quotecomparatively speaking. There is successful white nation after successful white nation, all over the world, and stable, lawful white communities throughout those nations.
Yet everyone of them is suffering under one common denominator, leftist policy.
QuoteYes, there are poor and relatively backward white areas, but these are rare...and they are still not as dangerous as poor black and brown areas.
There you go with the racist shit again. Do you ever look at the underlying issue as to why these communities have failed since the 60s?
LBJ the leftist is the common denominator. He broke up the successful black families in order to "Keep them niggers voting Dem for decades to come".
QuoteWith black and brown groups, it is the opposite. Failure, by first world standards, is the rule, and success, by white standards, is extremely rare.
Wrong! Brazil as well as other South American countries were doing quite well until....Come on, see if you can guess what caused their problems? (Hint, see Venezuela)
QuoteThis is what averages tell us. We know what we can expect when a white area goes brown or black. We will get the third world, or Zimbabwe. Every time. Check the statistics.
Again, what entity created these segregated groups in society?
QuoteRace is not the only issue, but that is the main crisis at the moment. The commies have engineered this invasion, and this anti-white propaganda war, and it's made possible because folks like you are afraid of calling a spade a spade. If you can't be "racist," you can't defend against what they are doing.
Wow! You just bought into Alynsky's plan of divide and conquer. There is no race war, stop watching TV, most races get along but if one swallows the BS the left feeds you on a daily basis, one would think whites have "special privilege".
See how that works? They have you hating anyone that isn't white. Conservatives don't see race, we see potential. We see that if given the chance people will want the American dream, only a fool would want the opposite.
Damn that Uncle Tom. :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-r8jlsiP4
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 06:10:51 PM
What delusions? It's all true!
UK for one, but most of Europe is failing. and it's all because of Marxist policy, add to that, flooding the countries with immigrants, another Marxist policy.
Yet everyone of them is suffering under one common denominator, leftist policy.
There you go with the racist shit again. Do you ever look at the underlying issue as to why these communities have failed since the 60s?
LBJ the leftist is the common denominator. He broke up the successful black families in order to "Keep them niggers voting Dem for decades to come".
Wrong! Brazil as well as other South American countries were doing quite well until....Come on, see if you can guess what caused their problems? (Hint, see Venezuela)
Again, what entity created these segregated groups in society?
Wow! You just bought into Alynsky's plan of divide and conquer. There is no race war, stop watching TV, most races get along but if one swallows the BS the left feeds you on a daily basis, one would think whites have "special privilege".
See how that works? They have you hating anyone that isn't white. Conservatives don't see race, we see potential. We see that if given the chance people will want the American dream, only a fool would want the opposite.
point/counter-point
1. Asinine to define the UK or Europe overall as "failed white communities." These are extremely successful, high tech societies with illustrious histories suffering under nonwhite immigration and cultural marxism.
2. The Marxism/cultural Marxism problem is Jewish, if you want to get into root causes.
3. Black failure is a universal phenomenon. It is not limited to the US after LBJ. Black Africa is a nightmare of starvation and corruption. If blacks did better in the early 20th century US, it's likely because they were heavily policed by a "racist" society.
4. Brazil has a large white population and was "racist" for much of it's history. I'm not arguing that socialism/communism is good, in fact it is a way for commies to gain control and destroy a society. But the argument that black and brown people would be first worlders without socialism is a joke. Black and brown enclaves all over the US and Europe are solidly 3rd world. That is their default state.
5. Segregation happens naturally. Ever hear of white flight? We are meant to be segregated, and if blacks and whites must live together, everyone is safer and saner if boundaries are maintained.
6. No, races do not get along. Blacks and hispanics have race wars whenever they are in the same territories. It's happening in slum communities all over the US. Whites move away, as reliably as the sun coming up, whenever a certain percentage of nonwhites are in white spaces.
7. No, I don't hate everyone who isn't white. I hate them being in my civilization, because they are a toxic presence, especially since they have been weaponized by commies. If you weren't brainwashed, you would arrive at the same conclusion.
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2019, 06:12:49 PM
Damn that Uncle Tom. :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-r8jlsiP4
Do you know what a token is? Do you what a statistical outlier is?
Bollocks.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 15, 2019, 09:06:42 PM
Bollocks.
Is of Middle English origin. :lol:
I just call it out and out racism BS.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 04:30:02 PM
That is the necessary context for understanding black slavery. I know, you're a boomer, so you can't process it unless it's acted for you in a movie or spoon-fed to you by a TV newsman. Just take my word for it, it's a complicated issue.
kid, there is nothing I would ever take your word on. Racist contribute nothing. The easiest way to "better" yourself is to look for ways to run down others, looks like you have chosen that path.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 03:56:57 PM
Well, if you look at violent crime rates, and at how blacks manage their own lives, not only here, but in sub-Saharan Africa, then it's reasonable to conclude that they benefit when a higher IQ group runs things.
Did you know that about 3% of the population, young black men, commits about 50% of our violent crime? Did you know that blacks are a net loss, in terms of wealth produced and resources consumed, in our society? Did you know that even in some of our most lavishly funded schools, they still have the nations lowest academic achievement?
If we just look at the facts, read the statistics, everything lines up with what the "racists" have been saying for centuries.
But I know, those bigots didn't watch enough TV and Hollywood movies. They never got to listen to commie professors. You're much better informed than the US founders and all of your ancestors.
Despite your disgusting and rather despicable racist comments, I don't agree with your overall notion that blacks in America can not fend for themselves. If anything, its the continued beat down by the democrats that have limited the true potential of the black community in this country. With a system of welfare that keeps blacks in poverty, it is hard for me to sit here and say that it is anyone's fault but the democrats. I see it every day in New Haven CT. Its real easy for you to quote that murder statistic, which is true but unproductive as a means to make your point, but what solutions are provided here? Your points make no sense and contribute little to nothing towards discussion when they are bold face racist.
You can sit here and quote statistics all day, but you sound like someone who have never seen a successful black person before. I mean, you must be the most ignorant piece of shit out there if you really believe everything you say about black communities.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 07:35:20 PM
Do you know what a token is? Do you what a statistical outlier is?
ROFL!!! I see a brave man with principals in front of a bunch of mouth breathers.
You see a nigga.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 02:42:06 PM
Man, you people are pretty far gone.
You are free to leave anytime you wish.
Quote from: Shaw on October 15, 2019, 07:34:18 PM
point/counter-point
1. Asinine to define the UK or Europe overall as "failed white communities." These are extremely successful, high tech societies with illustrious histories suffering under nonwhite immigration and cultural marxism.
2. The Marxism/cultural Marxism problem is Jewish, if you want to get into root causes.
3. Black failure is a universal phenomenon. It is not limited to the US after LBJ. Black Africa is a nightmare of starvation and corruption. If blacks did better in the early 20th century US, it's likely because they were heavily policed by a "racist" society.
4. Brazil has a large white population and was "racist" for much of it's history. I'm not arguing that socialism/communism is good, in fact it is a way for commies to gain control and destroy a society. But the argument that black and brown people would be first worlders without socialism is a joke. Black and brown enclaves all over the US and Europe are solidly 3rd world. That is their default state.
5. Segregation happens naturally. Ever hear of white flight? We are meant to be segregated, and if blacks and whites must live together, everyone is safer and saner if boundaries are maintained.
6. No, races do not get along. Blacks and hispanics have race wars whenever they are in the same territories. It's happening in slum communities all over the US. Whites move away, as reliably as the sun coming up, whenever a certain percentage of nonwhites are in white spaces.
7. No, I don't hate everyone who isn't white. I hate them being in my civilization, because they are a toxic presence, especially since they have been weaponized by commies. If you weren't brainwashed, you would arrive at the same conclusion.
OMG...And there it is, those evil God Damned JOOOOOOSSSSSS.
Took you long enough to play the final Bigot card.
I hope you do a DNA test one day, but be prepared to hate yourself over the results. :lol:
Yes, Europe was successful, but if one looks at it today as compared to just a decade ago, the writing is on the wall. Why do you think Brexit is such a big deal?
Worldwide corruption has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with Marxism being Hell bent on the destruction of capitalistic Nations. Why do you think there's been such a huge push for global warming?
Again, this is just another Marxist plot to kill off productive societies. But think for a second,, who are the people pushing the Marxist agenda? White liberals... Wait, what? It's not a bunch of niggas, wet backs, slant eyes?
No you dumb ass racist, they're fuckin communists with a shared ideology and division of race is just one of their tactics. Do you even have a clue just how stupid you look to normal people that want a better life for anyone that comes here legally?
Yeah, you look the complete tool doing the bidding of the very people who want to destroy all our Founders have accomplished. Take a step back and look at what you're advocating for, you're in a Nation that welcomes people that share in our ideals and color of skin is irrelevant as long as they're wiling to work and contribute.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 04:55:58 AM
OMG...And there it is, those evil God Damned JOOOOOOSSSSSS.
Took you long enough to play the final Bigot card.
I hope you do a DNA test one day, but be prepared to hate yourself over the results. :lol:
Yes, Europe was successful, but if one looks at it today as compared to just a decade ago, the writing is on the wall. Why do you think Brexit is such a big deal?
Worldwide corruption has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with Marxism being Hell bent on the destruction of capitalistic Nations. Why do you think there's been such a huge push for global warming?
Again, this is just another Marxist plot to kill off productive societies. But think for a second,, who are the people pushing the Marxist agenda? White liberals... Wait, what? It's not a bunch of niggas, wet backs, slant eyes?
No you dumb ass racist, they're fuckin communists with a shared ideology and division of race is just one of their tactics. Do you even have a clue just how stupid you look to normal people that want a better life for anyone that comes here legally?
Yeah, you look the complete tool doing the bidding of the very people who want to destroy all our Founders have accomplished. Take a step back and look at what you're advocating for, you're in a Nation that welcomes people that share in our ideals and color of skin is irrelevant as long as they're wiling to work and contribute.
1. Just like the race thing, the Jew thing is objective fact. Kevin MacDonald has done the legwork on the issue, here's a good summary of his work http://www.returnofkings.com/62716/the-damaging-effects-of-jewish-intellectualism-and-activism-on-western-culture (http://www.returnofkings.com/62716/the-damaging-effects-of-jewish-intellectualism-and-activism-on-western-culture). Many other scholars and great thinkers have charted this pattern.
2. "what about your own ancestry" is a tired boomer/liberal comeback. I could be black, the truth would still be the truth. As the info gets out a lot of nonwhites are agreeing that white nations should remain white.
3. The point about Europe is it has been under attack for a long time.it was put through two devastating wars, and then infected with hardcore cultural marxism. You began by trying to compare it with black or brown societies that have never produced anything. That comparison is idiotic.
4. Who are the people pushing Marxist agendas? Well, the theory, the money, the propaganda, is Jewish. Here's the background https://archive.org/details/BehindCommunism (https://archive.org/details/BehindCommunism)They recruit many non-Jewish dupes, but the source of the insanity is Jewish agendas. Even China was taught communism by Jewish agents out of Russia.
5. Racial animosity occurs when races are forced to share space, and then taught Marxist equality lies. This is a longstanding communist strategy. Guess who organized the civil rights movement? Guess who is organizing the migrant invasions? Guess who organized the end of apartheid? We can only live together if it is understood that we have different behaviors and intelligence levels. We can't live together if low IQ people are full of hate because they do not perform at the level of whites.
6. The number of nonwhites who come here to actually be Americans is very close to zero. Yes, many come to work and get money and hey like walmart and superhero movies. Less than 1% care about any part of US history, or any aspect of American values. They are here for the loot, and they laugh at the plight of America's traditional population.
You've been sold a bill of goods, boomer. You've been brainwashed into denying the most basic, obvious realities, and it's causing you to give away your nation and civilization.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 08:02:43 AM
1. Just like the race thing, the Jew thing is objective fact. Kevin MacDonald has done the legwork on the issue, here's a good summary of his work http://www.returnofkings.com/62716/the-damaging-effects-of-jewish-intellectualism-and-activism-on-western-culture (http://www.returnofkings.com/62716/the-damaging-effects-of-jewish-intellectualism-and-activism-on-western-culture). Many other scholars and great thinkers have charted this pattern.
Problem is, you do not differentiate between an NY JOO, or an actual Jew that practices the faith. Ny Joos are not actual Jews, they're Marxists at heart, see Rotchilds.
Quote2. "what about your own ancestry" is a tired boomer/liberal comeback. I could be black, the truth would still be the truth. As the info gets out a lot of nonwhites are agreeing that white nations should remain white.
You just contradicted yourself.
Quote3. The point about Europe is it has been under attack for a long time.it was put through two devastating wars, and then infected with hardcore cultural marxism. You began by trying to compare it with black or brown societies that have never produced anything. That comparison is idiotic.
No son, the point was exposing your lie about race. Marxism is the root cause of all problems in all of Western culture. Race is merely a symptom of said policy of destroying Western culture.
Quote4. Who are the people pushing Marxist agendas? Well, the theory, the money, the propaganda, is Jewish. Here's the background https://archive.org/details/BehindCommunism (https://archive.org/details/BehindCommunism)They recruit many non-Jewish dupes, but the source of the insanity is Jewish agendas. Even China was taught communism by Jewish agents out of Russia.
Case in point. Soros, a Joo by birth that never practiced the religion, they abhor the thought freedom and Liberty of the individual.
Quote5. Racial animosity occurs when races are forced to share space, and then taught Marxist equality lies. This is a longstanding communist strategy. Guess who organized the civil rights movement? Guess who is organizing the migrant invasions? Guess who organized the end of apartheid? We can only live together if it is understood that we have different behaviors and intelligence levels. We can't live together if low IQ people are full of hate because they do not perform at the level of whites.
You just made my point again by espousing the hate being fomented by Marxists. You are the epitome of leftist tool/useful idiot! The left foments hate and here you are doing as they command.
Quote6. The number of nonwhites who come here to actually be Americans is very close to zero. Yes, many come to work and get money and hey like walmart and superhero movies. Less than 1% care about any part of US history, or any aspect of American values. They are here for the loot, and they laugh at the plight of America's traditional population.
What part of "illegal alien" do you not get?
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QuoteYou've been sold a bill of goods, boomer. You've been brainwashed into denying the most basic, obvious realities, and it's causing you to give away your nation and civilization.
What does that even mean? Son, I have decades of wisdom over your shot term brainwashing, that's why I'm able to recognize the root cause of the problem, Communists!
I've given you solid evidence that Marxism is the real problem and here you are stuck in the weeds fighting an imaginary monster. What do you hope to accomplish as a useful idiot for the left?
I have no doubt you get booted from forums on a regular basis which is why you're here, thing is, we love exposing idiots like you for what you are. We use people like you as a moment to educate others that fail to think through issues and see what the real enemy is.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 08:27:26 AM
Problem is, you do not differentiate between an NY JOO, or an actual Jew that practices the faith. Ny Joos are not actual Jews, they're Marxists at heart, see Rotchilds.
You just contradicted yourself.
No son, the point was exposing your lie about race. Marxism is the root cause of all problems in all of Western culture. Race is merely a symptom of said policy of destroying Western culture.
Case in point. Soros, a Joo by birth that never practiced the religion, they abhor the thought freedom and Liberty of the individual.
You just made my point again by espousing the hate being fomented by Marxists. You are the epitome of leftist tool/useful idiot! The left foments hate and here you are doing as they command.
What part of "illegal alien" do you not get?
\What does that even mean? Son, I have decades of wisdom over your shot term brainwashing, that's why I'm able to recognize the root cause of the problem, Communists!
I've given you solid evidence that Marxism is the real problem and here you are stuck in the weeds fighting an imaginary monster. What do you hope to accomplish as a useful idiot for the left?
I have no doubt you get booted from forums on a regular basis which is why you're here, thing is, we love exposing idiots like you for what you are. We use people like you as a moment to educate others that fail to think through issues and see what the real enemy is.
1. No true scotsman fallacy. It is progress, anyway....you acknowledge a certain type of Jew is at the heart of the problem. Now note that Jews like Ben Shapiro move the agenda along in their own way. They are quick to call you racist, will always conceal Jewish agendas, and will always promote destabilizing wars.
2. That fact that you think that is a contradiction shows your limited comprehension. I have said repeatedly that a small percentage of nonwhites r intelligent and well-meaning. The argument we are having is about major trends.
3. Again, you are denying race, and racial tendencies. Things you can see with your own eyes. This is Marxist brainwashing.
4. Soros, like Ben Shapiro, is promoting an explicit Jewish/anti-white agenda. He is subverting white Christian society. Just approaching it from a different angle. If you can't see the pattern, I don't know what to tell you. All these key subverters just
happen to be Jewish. It's all coincidence move along.
5. Man, you are confused. You don't counter the left by agreeing with their main lies. Want to end racial animosity? Admit that the races are happiest when they're separated, and admit that we can't expect all groups to perform at the same level. Long as we are forced together, and forced to deny group differences, there will be hatred. That's the commie plan.
6. The issue is not legal vs illegal. The issue is whether a group is alien or not. Nonwhites are alien to Western societies. We can assimilate a small number, but at a certain point, we are being assimilated into third world ways. See California for details.
7. lol no, you have decades of brainwashing. You're arguing from basic cultural Marxist premises. Denying the group differences that you can see with your own eyes. It's a form of madness.
I tire of reading your ignorance and have no interest in indulging your hate and bigotry. Suffice it to say, you are, as I have pointed out numerous times, the lefts "useful Idiot".
Case in point, Alynsky's Rules For Radicals proves this point.
"RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the
thing itself."
Point being, they've managed to trap your myopic view and keep you distracted from the real issue of Marxism.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 09:01:49 AM
I tire of reading your ignorance and have no interest in indulging your hate and bigotry. Suffice it to say, you are, as I have pointed out numerous times, the lefts "useful Idiot".
Case in point, Alynsky's Rules For Radicals proves this point.
"RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the
thing itself."
Point being, they've managed to trap your myopic view and keep you distracted from the real issue of Marxism.
My friend, you are demonstrating your ignorance. Alinsky (another Jew, but we'll pretend that's just coincidence) is advising commies on how to bully decent whites.
This rule advises commie activists to make wild threats, to make decent people imagine their business and personal life under relentless attack, so decent people will give up without a fight.
It has nothing to do with the context in which you are trying to use it.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 09:13:32 AM
My friend, you are demonstrating your ignorance. Alinsky (another Jew, but we'll pretend that's just coincidence) is advising commies on how to bully decent whites.
This rule advises commie activists to make wild threats, to make decent people imagine their business and personal life under relentless attack, so decent people will give up without a fight.
It has nothing to do with the context in which you are trying to use it.
You fool! You are doing the very thing he advocates. You are focusing on an imaginary issue they've created.
You are under the illusion that all these illegals are too stupid to amount to anything. The leader of the Proud Boys is a Cuban, in fact his entire inner group doesn't have one white guy, they're all of Latin descent or black.
You would be a better asset if you would quit fighting against our own best interest and start befriending these people. When they look at you, all they see is stereotypical white racists hick, the same way we view the Sharptons and Jesse's of the the leftist shakedown circuit.
Anecdotal, but my next door neighbor is a Mexican son of illegals. These people are the epitome American dream, they are the salt of the earth in morality. The family is 20 strong, and I would gladly replace 90% of my white neighbors with his family.
I used to be a racist like you, only worse, because I grew up in a 90% poor black neighborhood, which has turned primarily Mexican and Asian now and is a peaceful place. But decades of exposure to people other than white, taught me, people are people and I quit viewing them as a homogeneous group, rather as individuals.
Particularly people from Latin America, these people are generally Christian with strong family values, the very people we want in this country. It would be in your own best interest to start working with these people instead of against, as in antagonist.
You will be a very lonely and angry guy when you grow up if you don't reconcile your racist bigotry. Take it from an old fart that overcame my hate. Oddly enough, my best friends are predominantly other than white.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 09:49:59 AM
You fool! You are doing the very thing he advocates. You are focusing on an imaginary issue they've created.
You are under the illusion that all these illegals are too stupid to amount to anything. The leader of the Proud Boys is a Cuban, in fact his entire inner group doesn't have one white guy, they're all of Latin descent or black.
You would be a better asset if you would quit fighting against our own best interest and start befriending these people. When they look at you, all they see is stereotypical white racists hick, the same way we view the Sharptons and Jesse's of the the leftist shakedown circuit.
Anecdotal, but my next door neighbor is a Mexican son of illegals. These people are the epitome American dream, they are the salt of the earth in morality. The family is 20 strong, and I would gladly replace 90% of my white neighbors with his family.
I used to be a racist like you, only worse, because I grew up in a 90% poor black neighborhood, which has turned primarily Mexican and Asian now and is a peaceful place. But decades of exposure to people other than white, taught me, people are people and I quit viewing them as a homogeneous group, rather as individuals.
Particularly people from Latin America, these people are generally Christian with strong family values, the very people we want in this country. It would be in your own best interest to start working with these people instead of against, as in antagonist.
You will be a very lonely and angry guy when you grow up if you don't reconcile your racist bigotry. Take it from an old fart that overcame my hate. Oddly enough, my best friends are predominantly other than white.
Buddy, you're using another silly commie line...the idea that people "hate" because they lack experience. I have lived in primarily Mexican and black areas for most of my life. I have had cordial dealings with nonwhites of all kinds. I have in fact had Mexican and mulatto girlfriends. I have traveled extensively south of the border. I am very familiar with different groups.
Personal experience, and fondness for individuals, is a separate issue from objective facts and major trends.
Mexicans are largely harmless and hardworking. They also have very low IQs on average.
The concrete fact of the matter is, you will not get a clean, safe, lawful, high tech society run by Mexicans. Especially the Mexicans who come here, who are the failures from down there.
This doesn't mean I "hate" Mexicans as a rule. it means that I understand that a large Mexican presence in the US spells catastrophe.
Same for blacks. Same for Somalis and Mid Easterners. They are what they are. They are not us, and they can't maintain our societies. All relevant statistics prove this.
These groups have their own spaces, vast, resource-rich areas covering much of the globe. There is no logical reason why they should be in countries settled and built by and for white Westerners.
The fact that you are convinced they belong here is, once again, proof of your brainwashing.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 10:58:54 AM
Buddy, you're using another silly commie line...the idea that people "hate" because they lack experience. I have lived in primarily Mexican and black areas for most of my life. I have had cordial dealings with nonwhites of all kinds. I have in fact had Mexican and mulatto girlfriends. I have traveled extensively south of the border. I am very familiar with different groups.
Personal experience, and fondness for individuals, is a separate issue from objective facts and major trends.
Mexicans are largely harmless and hardworking. They also have very low IQs on average.
The concrete fact of the matter is, you will not get a clean, safe, lawful, high tech society run by Mexicans. Especially the Mexicans who come here, who are the failures from down there.
This doesn't mean I "hate" Mexicans as a rule. it means that I understand that a large Mexican presence in the US spells catastrophe.
Same for blacks. Same for Somalis and Mid Easterners. They are what they are. They are not us, and they can't maintain our societies. All relevant statistics prove this.
There you go again with that BS IQ shit. Wake up, the iQ test was designed by and for elite liberals wanting to thumb their noses at anyone that didn't have the family money to attend their colleges. More of your ignorance on display.
QuoteThese groups have their own spaces, vast, resource-rich areas covering much of the globe. There is no logical reason why they should be in countries settled and built by and for white Westerners.
The fact that you are convinced they belong here is, once again, proof of your brainwashing.
Once again, what is the underlying issue at play here? Marxism!!!
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 11:34:11 AM
There you go again with that BS IQ shit. Wake up, the iQ test was designed by and for elite liberals wanting to thumb their noses at anyone that didn't have the family money to attend their colleges. More of your ignorance on display.
Once again, what is the underlying issue at play here? Marxism!!!
It's almost funny. You are arguing pure commie egalitarianism, denying something as basic as variations in intelligence. Modern psychometricians are careful scientists, and racial IQ averages are verified, over and over and over.
Great interview with Charles Murray. The interviewer has a very informative series on this topic.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/6lsa_97KIlc (https://www.youtube.com/embed/6lsa_97KIlc)
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 12:33:16 PM
It's almost funny. You are arguing pure commie egalitarianism, denying something as basic as variations in intelligence. Modern psychometricians are careful scientists, and racial IQ averages are verified, over and over and over.
Great interview with Charles Murray. The interviewer has a very informative series on this topic.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/6lsa_97KIlc (https://www.youtube.com/embed/6lsa_97KIlc)
Next you'l start advocating phrenology.
I think race and culture are often conflated but they often overlap so heavily.
I worked in Mexico in the early 80s, setting up a factory for a US company. Factories back then meant Mexican sh*thole with buried 55 gallon drums for septic tanks and that meant no toilet paper allowed except in the waste basket. The US companies sent down whatever equipment was too old to use in their factories.
The Mexican engineers were people that could add and subtract. I am sure there were a few competent ones because the roof did not cave in on us.
Today when I visit customers they have good engineers and Mexican factories are often more impressive than the US ones. They engineers still are brown. They did not change race.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 12:43:11 PM
Next you'l start advocating phrenology.
Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
Quote from: carolina73 on October 16, 2019, 01:04:31 PM
I think race and culture are often conflated but they often overlap so heavily.
I worked in Mexico in the early 80s, setting up a factory for a US company. Factories back then meant Mexican sh*thole with buried 55 gallon drums for septic tanks and that meant no toilet paper allowed except in the waste basket. The US companies sent down whatever equipment was too old to use in their factories.
The Mexican engineers were people that could add and subtract. I am sure there were a few competent ones because the roof did not cave in on us.
Today when I visit customers they have good engineers and Mexican factories are often more impressive than the US ones. They engineers still are brown. They did not change race.
This doesn't contradict any of the race/IQ data. There will be some percentage of brown people who are smart enough to be engineers. The issue is that there are not enough people of high intelligence, and of medium-range intelligence, to keep a whole range of systems running smoothly.
You need competent scientists, engineers, managers, mechanics, and even artists and philosophers, to have a first world society. You also need most normal, relatively stupid people to be well-behaved, so a lot of resources aren't wasted policing and cleaning up messes.
Brown and black populations are primarily relatively stupid people who are very often not well-behaved. Yes, some of them are above average, but not enough to have a functioning complex society.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 01:50:24 PM
This doesn't contradict any of the race/IQ data. There will be some percentage of brown people who are smart enough to be engineers. The issue is that there are not enough people of high intelligence, and of medium-range intelligence, to keep a whole range of systems running smoothly.
You need competent scientists, engineers, managers, mechanics, and even artists and philosophers, to have a first world society. You also need most normal, relatively stupid people to be well-behaved, so a lot of resources aren't wasted policing and cleaning up messes.
Brown and black populations are primarily relatively stupid people who are very often not well-behaved. Yes, some of them are above average, but not enough to have a functioning complex society.
Your racist bigotry blinds you to the achievements of India, Asia, and South America. All of whom come to the US for higher education.
Next time you're in the emergency room, take note of the ethnicity of those treating you and be glad they aren't the racist you are.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 02:39:12 PM
Your racist bigotry blinds you to the achievements of India, Asia, and South America. All of whom come to the US for higher education.
Next time you're in the emergency room, take note of the ethnicity of those treating you and be glad they aren't the racist you are.
Not to mention the empires of central Mexico before the Europeans destroyed them. I have never know a racist whom I had any respect for. He damn sure will not be the first.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 02:39:12 PM
Your racist bigotry blinds you to the achievements of India, Asia, and South America. All of whom come to the US for higher education.
Next time you're in the emergency room, take note of the ethnicity of those treating you and be glad they aren't the racist you are.
Buddy you're a clown. Indian doctors are displacing your own people because of commie racial quotas and other favoritism. You think we can't produce out own doctors? We invented modern medicine.
They really did a job on you boomers. You'll virtue signal your race and civilization right out of existence.
Quote from: s3779m on October 16, 2019, 02:53:12 PM
Not to mention the empires of central Mexico before the Europeans destroyed them. I have never know a racist whom I had any respect for. He damn sure will not be the first.
Exactly, Europeans are evil. No commie brainwashing here. Just amazingly noble not-racist boomers.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 03:02:09 PM
Exactly, Europeans are evil. No commie brainwashing here. Just amazingly noble not-racist boomers.
Just stated a fact you moron.
Quote from: s3779m on October 16, 2019, 03:12:35 PM
Just stated a fact you moron.
The Spanish found brown people living among the structures of a great civilization. We don't know that those brown people actually did any of the complex figuring. There were extremely backward. They could have just been occupying what was left behind by a much smarter group. Like blacks in Detroit.
The Spanish took their whole society over with 400 men. Know why? Huge difference in average IQ.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 03:26:51 PM
The Spanish found brown people living among the structures of a great civilization. We don't know that those brown people actually did any of the complex figuring. There were extremely backward. They could have just been occupying what was left behind by a much smarter group. Like blacks in Detroit.
The Spanish took their whole society over with 400 men. Know why? Huge difference in average IQ.
Wrong. Reread your history.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 02:54:12 PM
Buddy you're a clown. Indian doctors are displacing your own people because of commie racial quotas and other favoritism. You think we can't produce out own doctors? We invented modern medicine.
They really did a job on you boomers. You'll virtue signal your race and civilization right out of existence.
Wrong!!! Doctors in this country are bailing on the medical field, I've lost 5 in the last 15 years, all retiring because of govt interference. Nothing to do with quotas. Indians take the jobs vacated by white doctors because they only need tenure so they can go on to private practice.
Personally I don't care what color my doctor is as long as he knows what he's doing. Man,, you are one fucked up dude, you must lead a miserable life worrying that you are being replaced.
I bet you even believe the polls claiming whites will soon be replaced by people of Latin heritage.
Hint, those are all bogus, because they based them solely of the last name of people, most of Spanish descent, you know, white people from Spain?
Turn off the TV, you are being lied to son.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 03:26:51 PM
The Spanish found brown people living among the structures of a great civilization. We don't know that those brown people actually did any of the complex figuring. There were extremely backward. They could have just been occupying what was left behind by a much smarter group. Like blacks in Detroit.
The Spanish took their whole society over with 400 men. Know why? Huge difference in average IQ.
Oh God, now you're going to tell us aliens landed and used the indigenous peoples as slaves to build their temples. :lol:
Quote from: s3779m on October 16, 2019, 03:35:32 PM
Wrong. Reread your history.
I don't remember ever having come across someone claiming to be a Conservative, this damn ignorant of history.
I've had this forum for nearly 10 years now and he is the first. :lol:
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 04:07:02 PM
Wrong!!! Doctors in this country are bailing on the medical field, I've lost 5 in the last 15 years, all retiring because of govt interference. Nothing to do with quotas. Indians take the jobs vacated by white doctors because they only need tenure so they can go on to private practice.
Personally I don't care what color my doctor is as long as he knows what he's doing. Man,, you are one fucked up dude, you must lead a miserable life worrying that you are being replaced.
I bet you even believe the polls claiming whites will soon be replaced by people of Latin heritage.
Hint, those are all bogus, because they based them solely of the last name of people, most of Spanish descent, you know, white people from Spain?
Turn off the TV, you are being lied to son.
Right. A set of policies that *just happens* to drive out whites and usher in nonwhites. Sorta like what's happening with Mexicans invading manual labor markets. Tech jobs outsourced. Manufacturing gone to china. Racial quotas roadblocking whites in high status career paths. Racial quotas roadblocking whites in industry and the corporate world.
But no plan being pursued here. Everything's fine. Just ask a boomer.
And all those Latinos creating slums across the country aren't real. California didn't go blue. Texas isn't going blue. There is no demographic shift taking place. All the statisticians are lying.
Nothing to worry about with any of it. The future is bright. Just ask a boomer.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 04:13:33 PM
I don't remember ever having come across someone claiming to be a Conservative, this damn ignorant of history.
I've had this forum for nearly 10 years now and he is the first. :lol:
Yeah, you boomers are real dynamos. Deep knowledge of history. The founders definitely wanted a multiracial utopia. The Aztecs were definitely genius empire builders. No commie brainwashing here. Just awesome boomers.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 04:38:20 PM
Right. A set of policies that *just happens* to drive out whites and usher in nonwhites. Sorta like what's happening with Mexicans invading manual labor markets. Tech jobs outsourced. Manufacturing gone to china. Racial quotas roadblocking whites in high status career paths. Racial quotas roadblocking whites in industry and the corporate world.
But no plan being pursued here. Everything's fine. Just ask a boomer.
And all those Latinos creating slums across the country aren't real. California didn't go blue. Texas isn't going blue. There is no demographic shift taking place. All the statisticians are lying.
Nothing to worry about with any of it. The future is bright. Just ask a boomer.
So, you finally admit it is Marxist policy causing all these issues and not black or brown people? You moron, the ones causing these problems are white fuckin liberals, yet your misplaced bigotry blames the pawns in all of this.
Man, you are one truly screwed up individual. Learn to place blame where it belongs. Am I getting through your thick skull yet? (That's a phrenology reference.) For those in Rio Linda, that is the study of bumps on the skull, and I think this kid was dropped one too many times. Possibly intentional.
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 04:57:17 PM
Yeah, you boomers are real dynamos. Deep knowledge of history. The founders definitely wanted a multiracial utopia. The Aztecs were definitely genius empire builders. No commie brainwashing here. Just awesome boomers.
Read the Federalist papers and learn something.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 05:05:28 PM
So, you finally admit it is Marxist policy causing all these issues and not black or brown people? You moron, the ones causing these problems are white fuckin liberals, yet your misplaced bigotry blames the pawns in all of this.
Man, you are one truly screwed up individual. Learn to place blame where it belongs. Am I getting through your thick skull yet? (That's a phrenology reference.) For those in Rio Linda, that is the study of bumps on the skull, and I think this kid was dropped one too many times. Possibly intentional.
I never said it was not Marxist policies, i.e., Jewish schemes.
The black and brown people are weaponized and brought in. They aren't smart enough to arrange all of this themselves.
My message to you is, you help the Jewish schemes when you're too cowardly to acknowledge racial realities.
They rely on you not drawing a line, sitting there like a dope, making excuses, while your society is invaded and turned into the 3rd world.
And that's exactly what you're doing.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 05:06:33 PM
Read the Federalist papers and learn something.
What in the federalist papers indicates that the founders wanted black and brown people to be part of our society. Give me the citation.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 04:13:33 PM
I don't remember ever having come across someone claiming to be a Conservative, this damn ignorant of history.
I've had this forum for nearly 10 years now and he is the first. :lol:
I have been on the net for over 30 years now and this person is dumber then a 10 yard dump load of rocks. :lol:
You know at my age all my History teachers are dead. But they must be laughing their ass off rolling over in their graves. My teachers would be throwing a book it me way back then if I were this dumb on History. :lol: They could do that back then. :lol:
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2019, 04:13:33 PM
I don't remember ever having come across someone claiming to be a Conservative, this damn ignorant of history.
I've had this forum for nearly 10 years now and he is the first. :lol:
Every liberal I know has his same views. How does that go: if it walks like a duck........
Quote from: Shaw on October 16, 2019, 05:29:17 PM
What in the federalist papers indicates that the founders wanted black and brown people to be part of our society. Give me the citation.
That;s the point dumb ass, race is never mentioned anywhere in out Founding Documents.
You are the one claiming the Founders wanted a white nation you freakin racist, ignorant of our Founding.
Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2019, 04:38:19 AM
That;s the point dumb ass, race is never mentioned anywhere in out Founding Documents.
You are the one claiming the Founders wanted a white nation you freakin racist, ignorant of our Founding.
Man, what a joke you are. Homosexuals are never mentioned anywhere in the founding documents. Must mean that the founders supported the lgbt agenda.
Dumb ass, the reason these things are not mentioned is that the idea of nonwhites being part of the society they were designing, just like the idea of sodomites and trannies being seen as normal, was inconceivable to them.
They endorsed slavery, Jefferson owned blacks and had them whipped whenever they got out of line. They excluded indians and wiped out whole tribes as necessary. Jackson showed no mercy to nonwhites. Lincoln tried to ship blacks back to Africa. Up to the commie takeover after WWII, all presidents and normal Americans endorsed segregation.
Zero evidence that, until very recently, anyone expected the US to be other than a white country.
Again, you deny what you logically know is true. That's commie brainwashing.
Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 07:27:43 AM
Man, what a joke you are. Homosexuals are never mentioned anywhere in the founding documents. Must mean that the founders supported the lgbt agenda.
Dumb ass, the reason these things are not mentioned is that the idea of nonwhites being part of the society they were designing, just like the idea of sodomites and trannies being seen as normal, was inconceivable to them.
They endorsed slavery, Jefferson owned blacks and had them whipped whenever they got out of line. They excluded indians and wiped out whole tribes as necessary. Jackson showed no mercy to nonwhites. Lincoln tried to ship blacks back to Africa. Up to the commie takeover after WWII, all presidents and normal Americans endorsed segregation.
Zero evidence that, until very recently, anyone expected the US to be other than a white country.
Again, you deny what you logically know is true. That's commie brainwashing.
Next you're going to tell us "All men created Equal" really meant "Only White Men"? Of course a leftist would drag in LGBQTABC into the mix as deserving of spetchal Rights because they weren't mentioned either, that's what you idiot libs do, assign privilege where it doesn't belong, as in this case, to only "White Men".
Jefferson could care less what people did in their private lives, otherwise it would have been mentioned. Founders didn't see race, again dumb ass, or they would have made mention of it. Which is why the inclusion of"Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".
You even pulled the racist card in the beginning when you claimed "Free White Men" out of context. You don't get to interpret the Constitution to fit your racist narrative.
So what are you proposing as your solution, bringing back slavery? God you Marxists are sick. Karl would be proud to know people like you are doing his bidding long after his death.
Quote from: s3779m on October 17, 2019, 03:07:26 AM
Every liberal I know has his same views. How does that go: if it walks like a duck........
In his case, I think he identifies as said duck. After all, he is a quack. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2019, 09:03:42 AM
Next you're going to tell us "All men created Equal" really meant "Only White Men"? Of course a leftist would drag in LGBQTABC into the mix as deserving of spetchal Rights because they weren't mentioned either, that's what you idiot libs do, assign privilege where it doesn't belong, as in this case, to only "White Men".
Jefferson could care less what people did in their private lives, otherwise it would have been mentioned. Founders didn't see race, again dumb ass, or they would have made mention of it. Which is why the inclusion of"Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".
You even pulled the racist card in the beginning when you claimed "Free White Men" out of context. You don't get to interpret the Constitution to fit your racist narrative.
So what are you proposing as your solution, bringing back slavery? God you Marxists are sick. Karl would be proud to know people like you are doing his bidding long after his death.
Yes, dumb ass. The guy who wrote "all men are created equal" owned blacks. Had them whipped when they acted up. He had indians driven out of their lands to make room for white expansion.
"All men are created equal" was a statement about the nature of rights
in an Anglo society. It was social contract theory. It was extrapolation from the ideas of John Locke.
It was not an anthropological assertion, you blithering fucking idiot.
And yes, dumb ass, they wrote "free white men." There is no taking that out of context. Nonwhites were not invited. And that refutes your other point. They didn't mention race in the Federalst Papers because the idea of nonwhites joining their society was inconceivable to them. When there was any question of nonwhites being let in, they specified only FREE WHITE MEN
edit: Jefferson wanted to have the indians removed, Jackson did it.
Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 09:29:53 AM
Yes, dumb ass. The guy who wrote "all men are created equal" owned blacks. Had them whipped when they acted up. He had indians driven out of their lands to make room for white expansion.
"All men are created equal" was a statement about the nature of rights in an Anglo society. It was social contract theory. It was extrapolation from the ideas of John Locke.
It was not an anthropological assertion, you blithering fucking idiot.
And yes, dumb ass, they wrote "free white men." There is no taking that out of context. Nonwhites were not invited. And that refutes your other point.was inconceivable to They didn't mention race in the Federalst Papers because the idea of nonwhites joining their society them. When there was any question of nonwhites being let in, they specified only FREE WHITE MEN
edit: Jefferson wanted to have the indians removed, Jackson did it.
There were very few countries back then that had mixed races which occurred naturally. This was the result of natural boundaries and lack of desire to live elsewhere and lack of a transportation system that allowed travel for the masses. What the founding Fathers envisioned for this country was a reflection of how it was where they came from. Times changed. People had greater access to travel and different races could choose where to live. One of the first acts this great country took after freeing the slaves was to grant them citizenship with rights. As this great country saw a different type of Americans, attitudes changed with that, sometimes slow but always moving forward. Nowhere in early America, or in the writings can a person find the racist viewpoints you claim. Hate and racism did not establish this country as you seem to think. Does racism exist, of course, as long as there are idiots there will be those who judge by skin color and not by the character of the man. Our country is stronger for believing that life, liberty and pursuit of happiness applies to all citizens.
Quote from: s3779m on October 17, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
There were very few countries back then that had mixed races which occurred naturally. This was the result of natural boundaries and lack of desire to live elsewhere and lack of a transportation system that allowed travel for the masses. What the founding Fathers envisioned for this country was a reflection of how it was where they came from. Times changed. People had greater access to travel and different races could choose where to live. One of the first acts this great country took after freeing the slaves was to grant them citizenship with rights. As this great country saw a different type of Americans, attitudes changed with that, sometimes slow but always moving forward. Nowhere in early America, or in the writings can a person find the racist viewpoints you claim. Hate and racism did not establish this country as you seem to think. Does racism exist, of course, as long as there are idiots there will be those who judge by skin color and not by the character of the man. Our country is stronger for believing that life, liberty and pursuit of happiness applies to all citizens.
You boomers have no idea what was done to you.
You've been watching controlled media since you were born, and you were led to believe that it is "evil" to recognize group differences.
So you poor boobs just have to keep virtue signaling no matter what evidence you are presented with.
Just be aware, you are making commie arguments. Economic Marxism sells the idea that different social classes are actually equal. Cultural Marxism sells the idea that different identity groups are actually equal.
This is used to make underachieving groups bitter--because if they are equal, then why do they keep failing?--and to incite those groups to attack the people who make society run properly.
Once society's natural leaders are under attack, and cannot maintain order, the commies seize power.
That's how the game works, and you dopes have been playing into their hands for decades.
Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 09:29:53 AM
Yes, dumb ass. The guy who wrote "all men are created equal" owned blacks. Had them whipped when they acted up. He had indians driven out of their lands to make room for white expansion.
"All men are created equal" was a statement about the nature of rights in an Anglo society. It was social contract theory. It was extrapolation from the ideas of John Locke.
It was not an anthropological assertion, you blithering fucking idiot.
And yes, dumb ass, they wrote "free white men." There is no taking that out of context. Nonwhites were not invited. And that refutes your other point. They didn't mention race in the Federalst Papers because the idea of nonwhites joining their society was inconceivable to them. When there was any question of nonwhites being let in, they specified only FREE WHITE MEN
edit: Jefferson wanted to have the indians removed, Jackson did it.
Oh Jeez, you're still here?
You do know, there were white slaves as well, not to mention Black slave holders, right?
"On paper it offered freedom to all peoples regardless of race, creed, or color—-it was to be liberty without obstruction."
https://thefederalistpapers.org/current-events/equality-vs-liberty
Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 05:10:55 PM
You boomers have no idea what was done to you.
You've been watching controlled media since you were born, and you were led to believe that it is "evil" to recognize group differences.
So you poor boobs just have to keep virtue signaling no matter what evidence you are presented with.
Just be aware, you are making commie arguments. Economic Marxism sells the idea that different social classes are actually equal. Cultural Marxism sells the idea that different identity groups are actually equal.
This is used to make underachieving groups bitter--because if they are equal, then why do they keep failing?--and to incite those groups to attack the people who make society run properly.
Once society's natural leaders are under attack, and cannot maintain order, the commies seize power.
That's how the game works, and you dopes have been playing into their hands for decades.
I find it fascinating that some kid is scared to death that he thinks colored people are coming to get him.
You do an awful lot of whining, but have yet to say what you will do about it personally, instead, you come to a Conservative forum to bitch?
Tell us son, what is your solution aside from wetting yourself?
Quote from: Solar on October 17, 2019, 07:11:27 PM
I find it fascinating that some kid is scared to death that he thinks colored people are coming to get him.
You do an awful lot of whining, but have yet to say what you will do about it personally, instead, you come to a Conservative forum to bitch?
Tell us son, what is your solution aside from wetting yourself?
So what have all you anti-racist old ladies accomplished, as conservatives?
What have you conserved? Family values? Female honor? Education standards? Health standards? The most basic laws of the land?
You guys have been the bulk of the American right for the past 30 years. Why did everything go to shit on your watch?
Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 08:29:32 PM
So what have all you anti-racist old ladies accomplished, as conservatives?
What have you conserved? Family values? Female honor? Education standards? Health standards? The most basic laws of the land?
You guys have been the bulk of the American right for the past 30 years. Why did everything go to shit on your watch?
:lol: :lol: :lol: This country will allow you to leave anytime you want. There are third world shit holes just waiting for you and you will fit in. Several middle east countries have the hatred and racism you long for. You will be able to hate all you want. So, what's keeping you here.
Quote from: Shaw on October 17, 2019, 08:29:32 PM
So what have all you anti-racist old ladies accomplished, as conservatives?
What have you conserved? Family values? Female honor? Education standards? Health standards? The most basic laws of the land?
You guys have been the bulk of the American right for the past 30 years. Why did everything go to shit on your watch?
Us? We haven't had a say for the last 60 years. It wasn't until TEA that we finally started kicking leftist RINO to the curb, the very movement that brought you Trump.
But I tire of elucidating you with every post, like trying to un-teach your cousin Billy Bobs lessons on how to get a girl. So put away the case of beer and roofies, you're never going to get laid if you remain stupid.
But I'm still waiting to hear how you're going to reverse what you see as doom for the white race. You whine that "The Sky is Falling, We're All Gonna Die", but have no plan of action.
Sure, you can go through life wearing a helmet, thinking at any moment your demise is right around the corner. But do you always carry a bug out bag on your back?
This may come as a surprise, but white people aren't popping out kids like we used to, but I think that was just an anomaly related to the Marxist Dims trying to destroy our economy, so no sane people would want to raise children in Obozos "Fundamentally Changed America".
Trump has given people hope so a whole new generation is about to pop out kids.
Still, what are you going to do about these problems, are you going to continue to hate to the points it eats you alive, or try and find the positive in the future?
Tell us, oh Racist one, what is your plan to turn back time 70 years?
Quote from: s3779m on October 18, 2019, 02:41:24 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: This country will allow you to leave anytime you want. There are third world shit holes just waiting for you and you will fit in. Several middle east countries have the hatred and racism you long for. You will be able to hate all you want. So, what's keeping you here.
That reminds me of the time I went to Seattle. I got off the plane, white people everywhere. But there was one thing that stood out like a dick on a girl.
They were all racist and liberal! I kid you not, they were open about their hate for nonwhites, Planned Parenthood was doing Gods work by culling those darkies and they nothing was going to stop them.
Not kidding, they liked the fact that the dim party had kept them niggas on the plantation of inner-cities and out of their city.
Of course not everyone thought that way, but these idiot leftists weren't afraid to wear their racism on their sleeve, just like this idiot, which means the majority of thought ruled. Probably the same reason ANTIFA flourishes there.
Quote from: Solar on October 18, 2019, 05:45:07 AM
Us? We haven't had a say for the last 60 years. It wasn't until TEA that we finally started kicking leftist RINO to the curb, the very movement that brought you Trump.
But I tire of elucidating you with every post, like trying to un-teach your cousin Billy Bobs lessons on how to get a girl. So put away the case of beer and roofies, you're never going to get laid if you remain stupid.
But I'm still waiting to hear how you're going to reverse what you see as doom for the white race. You whine that "The Sky is Falling, We're All Gonna Die", but have no plan of action.
Sure, you can go through life wearing a helmet, thinking at any moment your demise is right around the corner. But do you always carry a bug out bag on your back?
This may come as a surprise, but white people aren't popping out kids like we used to, but I think that was just an anomaly related to the Marxist Dims trying to destroy our economy, so no sane people would want to raise children in Obozos "Fundamentally Changed America".
Trump has given people hope so a whole new generation is about to pop out kids.
Still, what are you going to do about these problems, are you going to continue to hate to the points it eats you alive, or try and find the positive in the future?
Tell us, oh Racist one, what is your plan to turn back time 70 years?
Haven't had a say for the last last 60 years? Huge backlash to the hippies in the late 60s, ushering in Nixon. Demographics were on your side too. Conservatives swept elections and had a mandate through the 80s, and had solid control again in the 2000s.
Know why the left kept winning? Because all they had to do was call you dipshits racist, and you guys abandoned the field.
The Tea Party was generally a sad joke. Bunch of yahoos trying to get blacks to do conservative minstrel shows so they could prove they weren't racist. Was hijacked by Glenn Beck in the first 10 minutes. Hardly a speedbump to Obamacare and the queer agenda.
What has created the current conservative moment is 1) Trump dared to be "racist" and 2) a lot of non-boomers who don't care about being called "racist" took control of the conversation.
For your reference
TOP DEFINITION
cuckservative
A cuckservative is a self-styled "conservative" who will cravenly sell out and undermine his home country's people, culture, and national interest in order to win approval with parties hostile or indifferent to him.
Quote from: Shaw on October 18, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
Haven't had a say for the last last 60 years? Huge backlash to the hippies in the late 60s, ushering in Nixon. Demographics were on your side too. Conservatives swept elections and had a mandate through the 80s, and had solid control again in the 2000s.
Know why the left kept winning? Because all they had to do was call you dipshits racist, and you guys abandoned the field.
The Tea Party was generally a sad joke. Bunch of yahoos trying to get blacks to do conservative minstrel shows so they could prove they weren't racist. Was hijacked by Glenn Beck in the first 10 minutes. Hardly a speedbump to Obamacare and the queer agenda.
What has created the current conservative moment is 1) Trump dared to be "racist" and 2) a lot of non-boomers who don't care about being called "racist" took control of the conversation.
For your reference
TOP DEFINITION
cuckservative
A cuckservative is a self-styled "conservative" who will cravenly sell out and undermine his home country's people, culture, and national interest in order to win approval with parties hostile or indifferent to him.
There you go again, rewriting history to suit your stupidity.
The GOP RINO leftists sold out the party when they turned on Goldwater, the rest is history. Majority baby boomers weren't old enough to vote in that race since you still had to be 21 at the time. Do the math.
My father apologized to me for giving us socialism under FDR and growing govt, dad was born in 1916.
Now, are you going to continue to expose your ignorance, or answer my question?
I'm getting tired of educating your dumb ass.
Quote from: Solar on October 18, 2019, 03:17:25 PM
There you go again, rewriting history to suit your stupidity.
The GOP RINO leftists sold out the party when they turned on Goldwater, the rest is history. Majority baby boomers weren't old enough to vote in that race since you still had to be 21 at the time. Do the math.
My father apologized to me for giving us socialism under FDR and growing govt, dad was born in 1916.
Now, are you going to continue to expose your ignorance, or answer my question?
I'm getting tired of educating your dumb ass.
Goldwater lol. You guys had plenty of chances. You blew the Reagan Revolution. Ignored Buchanan. Got made complete asses of by dubya. Ignored Ron Paul.
I don't blame you for being fooled. Like I said, you people have not known anything except Jew media since you were born.
Problem with you old ladies these days is, you keep playing into the commie's hands, repeating all the garbage you've been fed over the decades, which has caused you to lose so consistently.
All I'm saying is, if you can't stop being a cuck, just sit back and let more effective and informed folks do what needs to be done.
We know, you're not racist. We're very impressed. Now be quiet.
Quote from: Shaw on October 18, 2019, 05:21:29 PM
Goldwater lol. You guys had plenty of chances. You blew the Reagan Revolution. Ignored Buchanan. Got made complete asses of by dubya. Ignored Ron Paul.
I don't blame you for being fooled. Like I said, you people have not known anything except Jew media since you were born.
Problem with you old ladies these days is, you keep playing into the commie's hands, repeating all the garbage you've been fed over the decades, which has caused you to lose so consistently.
All I'm saying is, if you can't stop being a cuck, just sit back and let more effective and informed folks do what needs to be done.
We know, you're not racist. We're very impressed. Now be quiet.
Are you ever going to quit making an ass of yourself and answer my question?
Quote from: Solar on October 18, 2019, 05:31:31 PM
Are you ever going to quit making an ass of yourself and answer my question?
Your question being what solution do I propose?
Just an fyi, what you're attempting is called the appeal to consequences fallacy, i.e., the idea that a statement is invalidated if it leads to bad consequences.
Like a dumb boomer, you are repeating the commie argument that certain lines of thought can't be pursued because they may lead to "hate" or "fascism."
My solution is to change culture, and use that as the basis for changing policy. Something like what A. Breitbart talked about.
The necessary change in the culture is to replace commie equality premises with acknowledgement of certain key realities, namely human group differences and Jewish agendas.
Once those things are on the table and openly discussed, the policy changes will be inevitable. If those things are never on the table and openly discussed, commie victory is inevitable.
Quote from: Shaw on October 18, 2019, 05:47:05 PM
Your question being what solution do I propose?
Just an fyi, what you're attempting is called the appeal to consequences fallacy, i.e., the idea that a statement is invalidated if it leads to bad consequences.
Like a dumb boomer, you are repeating the commie argument that certain lines of thought can't be pursued because they may lead to "hate" or "fascism."
My solution is to change culture, and use that as the basis for changing policy. Something like what A. Breitbart talked about.
The necessary change in the culture is to replace commie equality premises with acknowledgement of certain key realities, namely human group differences and Jewish agendas.
Once those things are on the table and openly discussed, the policy changes will be inevitable. If those things are never on the table and openly discussed, commie victory is inevitable.
Again, you evade my question, and this is getting tiring.
I asked, what you plan on doing. We all know causation and effect, which is why we are, where we are. All I've gotten out of you is bigotry and racism. Do you think the shit you post is going to change anything?
Here's a thought. Instead of going around the web antagonizing people with your bullshit hate and ignorance, try finding out what other people are doing to remedy the issue.
So tell me, what do you personally plan on doing that will make meaningful change?
QuoteSo tell me, what do you personally plan on doing that will make meaningful change?
An excellent question Solar.
interesting dialogue even with all the absurd accusations, bias, and bigotry. I'm curious where this goes.
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Quote from: Solar on October 18, 2019, 07:42:00 PM
Again, you evade my question, and this is getting tiring.
I asked, what you plan on doing. We all know causation and effect, which is why we are, where we are. All I've gotten out of you is bigotry and racism. Do you think the shit you post is going to change anything?
Here's a thought. Instead of going around the web antagonizing people with your bullshit hate and ignorance, try finding out what other people are doing to remedy the issue.
So tell me, what do you personally plan on doing that will make meaningful change?
All I've gotten out of you is bigotry and racismActually, you've gotten a lot of arguments rooted in history, and a lot of facts. Links to things such a summary of evolutionary psychologist Kevin MacDonald's The Culture of Critique, and Behind Communism, an eye-opening (if slightly dated) examination of Jews' history in the West and the true nature of communism.
You've gotten several descriptions of world-wide trends of racial performance, and a link to a high level discussion of the science behind race.
But, being a dumb boomer, thoroughly programmed by commies, your only response to all this is to actually become a commie, and start babbling about bigotry, hate, racism etc.
So tell me, what do you personally plan on doing that will make meaningful change?And, being a dumb boomer, you're now (unwittingly) attempting Freudian (Jewish) ad hominem, trying to shift the focus to my personal life, in order to avoid inconvenient truths.
I could be a full-time activist, I could just be someone who likes to read and contemplate. Wouldn't change the arguments. I could be a family man, I could be an incel. Wouldn't change the arguments. Wonder why you can't stay focused on the arguments?
Quote from: Shaw on October 19, 2019, 08:22:04 AM
All I've gotten out of you is bigotry and racism
Actually, you've gotten a lot of arguments rooted in history, and a lot of facts. Links to things such a summary of evolutionary psychologist Kevin MacDonald's The Culture of Critique, and Behind Communism, an eye-opening (if slightly dated) examination of Jews' history in the West and the true nature of communism.
You've gotten several descriptions of world-wide trends of racial performance, and a link to a high level discussion of the science behind race.
But, being a dumb boomer, thoroughly programmed by commies, your only response to all this is to actually become a commie, and start babbling about bigotry, hate, racism etc.
So tell me, what do you personally plan on doing that will make meaningful change?
And, being a dumb boomer, you're now (unwittingly) attempting Freudian (Jewish) ad hominem, trying to shift the focus to my personal life, in order to avoid inconvenient truths.
I could be a full-time activist, I could just be someone who likes to read and contemplate. Wouldn't change the arguments. I could be a family man, I could be an incel. Wouldn't change the arguments. Wonder why you can't stay focused on the arguments?
Let us summarize, shall we?
You come in here, insult everyone on the forum and claim we're all guilty of the very thing you are doing nothing to stop?
Unlike you, we've all been fighting the Marxist scourge for decades as life long Conservatives, we don't just whine about it like the typical millennial such as yourself, assuming you're even that old.
Many of us have done petition drives, sat on phone banks, raised money, or as in my case, spent my own money to advocate for the Conservative cause as in this site and another.
But what have you done? Not one damn thing aside from bitch that no one is doing anything. It's people like you that get people killed with your hate and stupidity.
Ya know, you claim whites are being pushed out, yet fail to recognize we are all the same, that eventually, (assuming the human race lives long enough) race will be a thing of the past as all the races inter marry.
We're done here son, you are an impediment to the cause of Conservatism with your racist bull shit, that is not who Conservatives are, if we were you wouldn't see Latinos for the cause, Blacks uniting under the Conservative banner.
No, if left to you and your idiot ilk, we'd be in a race war. Whites against everyone else,
you stupid fuck! Take your hate somewhere else like stormfront, or were you too radical for them as well?
We don't need your hate on the forum, that's not who we are. Ever wonder why no one wants anything to do with you? Maybe, just maybe, it's you that is the asshole. Let that sink in, as yet one more forum kicks your dumb ass to the curb for (SIP) stupid in public.