Quote from: Walter Josh on July 24, 2018, 08:28:24 PM
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If you'e either clueless or offended, say so,
and I'll rephrase.

Please do.

Quote from: Cadescove on July 24, 2018, 03:55:38 PM

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You're young. I bet you even thought it was racist, didn't you?

Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2018, 07:17:35 PM


Guess how long they've been investigating this one, and they've only just now been charged.
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Bronfman-Salzman-and-two-more-charged-with-13100041.php
Do I need to pull your old posts as an example?
Sure, that was the illusion leftist media created, that and illegal voting always skews the real numbers.
Keep in mind the GOP needs the Dim party to appear as a threat to scare us into supporting them, it's a game both party's have always played, but now the Dims finally lost and the gop'E is next.
Cool, I was just curious. So you're an engineer iin exactly what field, bridges, buildings, roads I assume?

Good discussion.  We still disagree on a few points, but we have the same goals and vision.

I'm an architect.  In AFCE everybody is tasked with repairing runways and C3 facilities during the bombing, and in peacetime working on normal design and construction.  After the AF I've been in university facility planning, design, and construction.

I don't totally disagree with you on the procedural concepts.  I just don't agree that every last case / situation is needing to more time.  I think that some don't, and should be setting the table now, for the longer game.  I don't think that every last detail is part of one huge rat's nest, that must move along monolithically.

I think that we can indeed burn and salt the dem earth if we use the criminal prosecutions to obliterate them in the elections.  I'm afraid that we give them too much wiggle room, to much room to cheat anew, if we don't.

Heard some crazy new stuff.  Now they're saying that Brennan was hands-on in killing Michael Hastings AND Seth Rich.  What a massive blowout if they can prove both of those.

Quote from: AndyJackson on July 25, 2018, 07:52:02 AM
Good discussion.  We still disagree on a few points, but we have the same goals and vision.

I'm an architect.  In AFCE everybody is tasked with repairing runways and C3 facilities during the bombing, and in peacetime working on normal design and construction.  After the AF I've been in university facility planning, design, and construction.

I don't totally disagree with you on the procedural concepts.  I just don't agree that every last case / situation is needing to more time.  I think that some don't, and should be setting the table now, for the longer game.  I don't think that every last detail is part of one huge rat's nest, that must move along monolithically.

I think that we can indeed burn and salt the dem earth if we use the criminal prosecutions to obliterate them in the elections.  I'm afraid that we give them too much wiggle room, to much room to cheat anew, if we don't.

Heard some crazy new stuff.  Now they're saying that Brennan was hands-on in killing Michael Hastings AND Seth Rich.  What a massive blowout if they can prove both of those.

I think the real problem is tentacles, they reach far and wide and deep into the GOP, which is a whole other roadblock to contend with.
Oh, sure, there are probably some that could be prosecuted early, but most likely aren't getting the attention they deserve for lack of manpower, these investigations require faithful Conservatives, people that won't undermine the process, this, after all, DC politics we're talking about and finding good people in a whore house is akin to searching for a needle in a haystack, so it's safe to say it was hard enough finding good people willing to risk their lives and lives of those they love to work on these investigations.

Then there's the problem of getting witnesses to talk, that alone requires a whole other army of people standing guard. I can't help but think you aren't taking into account logistics complexities and the number of people involved in bringing all of this to a point where prosecution is guaranteed.
This is the biggest fraud in American history, it deserves our patience.

I continually hear that Trump will have to use military intel, and USMC / Marshals for manning (arrests / jailing), and military courts to administer the cases.

Just because there are still so many Obama-Clinton slags throughout DOJ, federal courts, FBI, etc.  who will sabotage everything that moves.

Quote from: AndyJackson on July 25, 2018, 09:10:05 AM
I continually hear that Trump will have to use military intel, and USMC / Marshals for manning (arrests / jailing), and military courts to administer the cases.

Just because there are still so many Obama-Clinton slags throughout DOJ, federal courts, FBI, etc.  who will sabotage everything that moves.

What about posse comitatus?
Military courts for U.S.citizens?  How's that work?

One item I feel fairly confident on, once the indictments are presented, they will be ready to go to court. Unlike Mueller whose indictments were for show.

Quote from: Cadescove on July 25, 2018, 09:28:40 AM
What about posse comitatus?
Military courts for U.S.citizens?  How's that work?

I've seen some explanations that there is a distinction between regular policing and the legal aspect.  Posse Comitatus is generally looked at as making sure that the military doesn't get used as a national police force, because that is so incredibly corruptible, and is filthy corrupt wherever they have a national police.

I've seen the bridge to military tribunals described as "civilians doing treasonous acts in time of war, or with established enemies".  I guess Trump would have to establish that.  With GWOT, active terrorism, Iran, NoKo, SA, Syria, etc..... I would gather that it's doable.

Quote from: Cadescove on July 25, 2018, 12:06:14 AM
Please do.

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An 18th century French anthropologist, Baron Couvier, asserted
that Mankind could be categorized by race, which he defined as:
Caucasoid/white; Negroid/black and Mongoloid/yellow.
Each racial group had shared yet distinct physical characteristics
as well as social attitudes, behaviors, impulses and traits.
He was an scientist and hardly a racist; a modern epithet.
Contemporaneous w/Couvier lived Jean Jacques Rousseau,
author of the "Social Contract" and a relentless drum beater
for egalitarianism; arguably the most disastrous notion ever
foisted on Mankind since Original Sin.
Emphatically, we are NOT equal and never were; as the history
of the world attests, in stark reality. But Rousseau refused to
accept this; having another agenda, namely power.
The seed of progressivism was universal equality which spawned
Marxism and all its diseased children.
As I don't do pious platitudes nor sanctimonious malarkey;
I chose to label Obama's water carriers, as Couvier might have.
The darkie descriptive was applied, to clarify their category,
so you wouldn't be muddled.

Quote from: Walter Josh on July 26, 2018, 03:19:17 PM
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An 18th century French anthropologist, Baron Couvier, asserted
that Mankind could be categorized by race, which he defined as:
Caucasoid/white; Negroid/black and Mongoloid/yellow.
Each racial group had shared yet distinct physical characteristics
as well as social attitudes, behaviors, impulses and traits.
He was an scientist and hardly a racist; a modern epithet.
Contemporaneous w/Couvier lived Jean Jacques Rousseau,
author of the "Social Contract" and a relentless drum beater
for egalitarianism; arguably the most disastrous notion ever
foisted on Mankind since Original Sin.
Emphatically, we are NOT equal and never were; as the history
of the world attests, in stark reality. But Rousseau refused to
accept this; having another agenda, namely power.
The seed of progressivism was universal equality which spawned
Marxism and all its diseased children.
As I don't do pious platitudes nor sanctimonious malarkey;
I chose to label Obama's water carriers, as Couvier might have.
The darkie descriptive was applied, to clarify their category,
so you wouldn't be muddled.

Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking. Thx, I get you now.

You might want to check your source, they spelled Couvier's (sic) name wrong.

Quote from: Cadescove on July 26, 2018, 04:00:47 PM
Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking. Thx, I get you now.

What part was racist?

Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2018, 06:24:31 PM
What part was racist?

Racists see racism in everything.

Quote from: Cadescove on July 26, 2018, 04:00:47 PM
Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking. Thx, I get you now.

You might want to check your source, they spelled Couvier's (sic) name wrong.

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Uninterested in a urinary contest, so this drama ends here.
You asked for an explanation/rephrasing, which I provided;
that it doesn't align w/your bias, is your problem, which you own.
Your comment that Couvier's anthropology was,
"Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking" exposes
you as just another modernist cheerleader, mesmerized by
malarkey such as; 'cuz were the greatest evah....'  Hmm.....
If you were as smart as you think you are, you would know
(paraphrasing the Archbishop of Chartres commentary) that,
" We moderns are mere pygmies who only see as far as we do
because we stand on the massive shoulders of the Giants who
proceeded us, commencing in the Fertile Crescent, to Egypt,
on to Greece and Rome, the High Middle Ages, the Renaissance...."
So what the hell did they know???
But at least there's some upside here as I'll be alerting Britannica
about their mis-spelling of Couvier's name.

Quote from: Walter Josh on July 26, 2018, 09:13:59 PM
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Uninterested in a urinary contest, so this drama ends here.
You asked for an explanation/rephrasing, which I provided;
that it doesn't align w/your bias, is your problem, which you own.
Your comment that Couvier's anthropology was,
"Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking" exposes
you as just another modernist cheerleader, mesmerized by
malarkey such as; 'cuz were the greatest evah....'  Hmm.....
If you were as smart as you think you are, you would know
(paraphrasing the Archbishop of Chartres commentary) that,
" We moderns are mere pygmies who only see as far as we do
because we stand on the massive shoulders of the Giants who
proceeded us, commencing in the Fertile Crescent, to Egypt,
on to Greece and Rome, the High Middle Ages, the Renaissance...."
So what the hell did they know???
But at least there's some upside here as I'll be alerting Britannica
about their mis-spelling of Couvier's name.

Glad you don't want to get in a passing contest, you probably don't have the equipment.

When you quote a scientific racist you risk getting branded.

QuoteCuvier thought the Caucasian skull was the most beautifully shaped. He divided humanity into three races: white, yellow and black, and rated each for the beauty or ugliness of the skull and quality of their civilizations. According to Cuvier, a European, the White race was at the top, and the black race was at the bottom.

Cuvier wrote about Caucasians (Europeans):

The white race, with oval face, straight hair and nose, to which the civilised people of Europe belong and which appear to us the most beautiful of all, is also superior to others by its genius, courage and activity.

Regarding Negros, Cuvier wrote:

The Negro race... is marked by black complexion, crisped of woolly hair, compressed cranium and a flat nose, The projection of the lower parts of the face, and the thick lips, evidently approximate it to the monkey tribe: the hordes of which it consists have always remained in the most complete state of barbarism.

Again, thanks for showing what you are.

BTW, Britannia had him spelled correctly, hmmm I wonder where you can ups have gotten an opinionated quote from?

Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2018, 06:45:07 PM
Racists see racism in everything.

Says the one who links noted racist Hal Turner and then runs away from it.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/putin-gives-trump-160-terabytes-of-communication-intercepts/msg362366/#msg362366

Tsk, tsk.
Wow, that tinfoil hat thread died an ignominious death quickly.