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Title: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: walkstall on July 23, 2018, 06:48:11 PM
Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinton and frame Trump


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In one of the more stunning revelations contained in the report compiled by the Justice Department's watchdog, former FBI Director James Comey claimed he doesn't remember the moment he decided – and put down in writing -- that Hillary Clinton had committed crimes.   





We know that on or about May 2, 2016, Comey composed a statement summarizing Clinton's mishandling of classified documents, concluding that she was "grossly negligent." Those pivotal words have a distinct legal meaning, and are drawn directly from a federal statute, 18 U.S.C. 793(f), which makes it a felony to handle classified documents in a "grossly negligent" manner.

Comey used the exact phrase not once, but twice.

Based on Comey's finding, Clinton should have faced a multiple-count criminal indictment, since the FBI discovered that she had stored 110 classified emails on her unauthorized, private computer server.  Other people had been prosecuted for similar conduct that jeopardized national security in violation of the law.  Yet, Comey – despite characterizing Clinton's actions with the clear language denoting violation of the law - saw to it that no charges were ever brought against Clinton.     

more @
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/23/gregg-jarrett-comey-and-strzok-two-key-players-in-scheme-to-clear-clinton-and-frame-trump.html
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cryptic Bert on July 23, 2018, 07:15:02 PM
This is why Comey wants democrats to win. 
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Walter Josh on July 23, 2018, 09:54:15 PM
By now, it should be beyond obvious to all, that this entire
masquerade was hatched by Obama's darkie brigade of
Holder, Rice and Lynch; among his countless flunkies.
Too bad Offenbach isn't alive to score it w/appropriate music.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 24, 2018, 05:14:37 AM
Obstruction of justice
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 12:58:13 PM
The evidence is massive and undeniable.  If Trump doesn't have a clear enough path in congress or DOJ or the courts, declare a state of emergency and do it martial law, USMC, Marshals, court-martial-tribunals style.

Let the dems and MSM wail and scream and accuse.  The evidence is there.  Put it out on the internet, use Hannity / Rush / Ingraham / Dobbs / Beck / Levin as your outlets to the public.

Do this instead of waiting until October.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: supsalemgr on July 24, 2018, 01:05:13 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 12:58:13 PM
The evidence is massive and undeniable.  If Trump doesn't have a clear enough path in congress or DOJ or the courts, declare a state of emergency and do it martial law, USMC, Marshals, court-martial-tribunals style.

Let the dems and MSM wail and scream and accuse.  The evidence is there.  Put it out on the internet, use Hannity / Rush / Ingraham / Dobbs / Beck / Levin as your outlets to the public.

Do this instead of waiting until October.

Settle down Andy. We are a country of laws. We do not want to fall into the ways of the left.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 12:58:13 PM
The evidence is massive and undeniable.  If Trump doesn't have a clear enough path in congress or DOJ or the courts, declare a state of emergency and do it martial law, USMC, Marshals, court-martial-tribunals style.

Let the dems and MSM wail and scream and accuse.  The evidence is there.  Put it out on the internet, use Hannity / Rush / Ingraham / Dobbs / Beck / Levin as your outlets to the public.

Do this instead of waiting until October.
I wish to fuck you had a better understanding of the law. You can't skip discovery and expect to get a conviction on just your "feelings".
Take a moment and ht a few law forums and you'll see just what kind of hurdles Trump is facing. You really don't expect the left to take the evidence and say, "Oh Well, you got us", do you?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 01:47:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
I wish to fuck you had a better understanding of the law. You can't skip discovery and expect to get a conviction on just your "feelings".
Take a moment and ht a few law forums and you'll see just what kind of hurdles Trump is facing. You really don't expect the left to take the evidence and say, "Oh Well, you got us", do you?
You guys crack me up.  Desperate to be right, pissed at anybody questioning anything.

You may never admit it, but I know you're smart enough to know there's such a thing as "too late" in this mess.

This can be the greatest justice ever achieved ......... or the greatest blunder, fumble away of justice ever.  And it's politics, if none of this is done before November, and we see a leftist election miracle like we enjoyed with Trump..... it's been fumbled away.

Pretending this away is not a good look.  Stakes are far too high to not have a sense of urgency.

Solar, where did you get your legal expertise ?  Were you a cop ?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2018, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 01:47:20 PM
You guys crack me up.  Desperate to be right, pissed at anybody questioning anything.

You may never admit it, but I know you're smart enough to know there's such a thing as "too late" in this mess.

This can be the greatest justice ever achieved ......... or the greatest blunder, fumble away of justice ever.  And it's politics, if none of this is done before November, and we see a leftist election miracle like we enjoyed with Trump..... it's been fumbled away.

Pretending this away is not a good look.  Stakes are far too high to not have a sense of urgency.

Solar, where did you get your legal expertise ?  Were you a cop ?
Yes!!! As well as a private investigator, so one has to have a pretty good grasp of law if you're going to go around arresting people and you better have your shit together when you turn in your report at the end of "Each and Every day!"

I get it, you're impatient and want it all yesterday, I guess it's a generational thing, but we're still a Nation of laws, and if we don't have our (Ts) crossed and our (i's) dotted, the left will have a field day in the media running their mouths.

I was serious when I said to hit a law forum because there is soooo much you don't understand about "Process". Just ask Billy about the shit he dealt with when it came to the DA and presenting evidence.
He knew he had a solid case, but the DA will tell you flat out, he can't prosecute on assumptions and hearsay. We all learn the hard way, though I don't know if Billy actually had a case rejected, but he knows what a solid case entails and just how many hours and months/years are involved in getting it ready for prosecution.

I'll be blunt, your ignorance on the subject is a bit embarrassing for the forum. Quit ranting and learn something on the subject!
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cadescove on July 24, 2018, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Walter Josh on July 23, 2018, 09:54:15 PM
By now, it should be beyond obvious to all, that this entire
masquerade was hatched by Obama's darkie brigade of
Holder, Rice and Lynch; among his countless flunkies.
Too bad Offenbach isn't alive to score it w/appropriate music.


???
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 04:08:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2018, 02:50:26 PM
Yes!!! As well as a private investigator, so one has to have a pretty good grasp of law if you're going to go around arresting people and you better have your shit together when you turn in your report at the end of "Each and Every day!"

I get it, you're impatient and want it all yesterday, I guess it's a generational thing, but we're still a Nation of laws, and if we don't have our (Ts) crossed and our (i's) dotted, the left will have a field day in the media running their mouths.

I was serious when I said to hit a law forum because there is soooo much you don't understand about "Process". Just ask Billy about the shit he dealt with when it came to the DA and presenting evidence.
He knew he had a solid case, but the DA will tell you flat out, he can't prosecute on assumptions and hearsay. We all learn the hard way, though I don't know if Billy actually had a case rejected, but he knows what a solid case entails and just how many hours and months/years are involved in getting it ready for prosecution.

I'll be blunt, your ignorance on the subject is a bit embarrassing for the forum. Quit ranting and learn something on the subject!
lol, I like the back and forth with you.  But I don't take smug little snorts of "ignorance" and "embarrassing" from anybody on the internet.

I managed to get a MS and MA, and make Lt Col, all by the kindness of the USAF.  I'm the wrong guy to lecture down at.  I know as much as any layman on the basics of legal concepts.  You have no idea what the details are in any of these cases, so no, you have no idea what the procedural issues are, or aren't.  We are all surmising and spitballing.

You love to pretend that you do know exactly what's going on, which is where I scoff and chuckle.  And wonder why you need to do this so often.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2018, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 04:08:37 PM
lol, I like the back and forth with you.  But I don't take smug little snorts of "ignorance" and "embarrassing" from anybody on the internet.

I managed to get a MS and MA, and make Lt Col, all by the kindness of the USAF.  I'm the wrong guy to lecture down at.  I know as much as any layman on the basics of legal concepts.  You have no idea what the details are in any of these cases, so no, you have no idea what the procedural issues are, or aren't.  We are all surmising and spitballing.

You love to pretend that you do know exactly what's going on, which is where I scoff and chuckle.  And wonder why you need to do this so often.
Then show some of this intellect and quit acting like a kid screaming that the process should somehow meet your time schedule.
For the same reason you can't just walk into an auto dealer and hand them cash and walk out, they are bound by law to certain procedures as well. IIs any of this sinking in?
No, I have absolutely no idea what evidence they have, though I have a solid understanding of procedure and what steps need to be taken before we can move onto the next step, and yes, you do embarrass the forum by refusing to take the time to learn the process, instead you'd rather stomp your feet  and throw a fit because of some emotional need for God knows what.

Of all people, you should recognize the COC, where events only happen in a uniform process, right? Well, law works in the same manner and you can't simply pass on the discovery process and move to a hearing and onto prosecution.

Oh, and to address your earlier claim of risking losing seats because this is taking too long? Have you even been paying attention to the history of the elections lately?
The Dim party is in tatters, assuming one even really exists, and you think they have a shot of taking back the Majority?
I am grateful I do not suffer the same pessimistic outlook you obviously suffer from.

Out of curiosity, what did you do in the AF?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 06:30:48 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2018, 05:48:30 PM
Then show some of this intellect and quit acting like a kid screaming that the process should somehow meet your time schedule.
For the same reason you can't just walk into an auto dealer and hand them cash and walk out, they are bound by law to certain procedures as well. IIs any of this sinking in?
No, I have absolutely no idea what evidence they have, though I have a solid understanding of procedure and what steps need to be taken before we can move onto the next step, and yes, you do embarrass the forum by refusing to take the time to learn the process, instead you'd rather stomp your feet  and throw a fit because of some emotional need for God knows what.

Of all people, you should recognize the COC, where events only happen in a uniform process, right? Well, law works in the same manner and you can't simply pass on the discovery process and move to a hearing and onto prosecution.

Oh, and to address your earlier claim of risking losing seats because this is taking too long? Have you even been paying attention to the history of the elections lately?
The Dim party is in tatters, assuming one even really exists, and you think they have a shot of taking back the Majority?
I am grateful I do not suffer the same pessimistic outlook you obviously suffer from.

Out of curiosity, what did you do in the AF?
It's not actually MY schedule, it's what I perceive to be timely or effective in the bigger picture.

No stomping or fits, just having an opinion.  You've been consistently more excited than me, that I think differently than you.

Anything's possible in politics.  Just 18 months ago we didn't expect Trump to win, Cruz was already out, and it looked like the dems, leftists, and various criminals would own America.  No time to get smug and dismissive of the dems + RINOs + MSM.  They are still a big block of shit, just festering.

I was an architect in AF Civil Engineering.  Despite the moniker, it's every discipline of engineering, CE, ME, EE, I.E., structural, architects, and so on.  I also taught ROTC.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2018, 07:17:35 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 24, 2018, 06:30:48 PM
It's not actually MY schedule, it's what I perceive to be timely or effective in the bigger picture.

Guess how long they've been investigating this one, and they've only just now been charged.
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Bronfman-Salzman-and-two-more-charged-with-13100041.php

QuoteNo stomping or fits, just having an opinion.  You've been consistently more excited than me, that I think differently than you.
Do I need to pull your old posts as an example?

QuoteAnything's possible in politics.  Just 18 months ago we didn't expect Trump to win, Cruz was already out, and it looked like the dems, leftists, and various criminals would own America.  No time to get smug and dismissive of the dems + RINOs + MSM.  They are still a big block of shit, just festering.
Sure, that was the illusion leftist media created, that and illegal voting always skews the real numbers.
Keep in mind the GOP needs the Dim party to appear as a threat to scare us into supporting them, it's a game both party's have always played, but now the Dims finally lost and the gop'E is next.

QuoteI was an architect in AF Civil Engineering.  Despite the moniker, it's every discipline of engineering, CE, ME, EE, I.E., structural, architects, and so on.  I also taught ROTC.
Cool, I was just curious. So you're an engineer iin exactly what field, bridges, buildings, roads I assume?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Walter Josh on July 24, 2018, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 24, 2018, 03:55:38 PM

???
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If you'e either clueless or offended, say so,
and I'll rephrase.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cadescove on July 25, 2018, 12:06:14 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on July 24, 2018, 08:28:24 PM
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If you'e either clueless or offended, say so,
and I'll rephrase.

Please do.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 25, 2018, 06:59:04 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 24, 2018, 03:55:38 PM

???
:biggrin:
You're young. I bet you even thought it was racist, didn't you?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 25, 2018, 07:52:02 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2018, 07:17:35 PM


Guess how long they've been investigating this one, and they've only just now been charged.
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Bronfman-Salzman-and-two-more-charged-with-13100041.php
Do I need to pull your old posts as an example?
Sure, that was the illusion leftist media created, that and illegal voting always skews the real numbers.
Keep in mind the GOP needs the Dim party to appear as a threat to scare us into supporting them, it's a game both party's have always played, but now the Dims finally lost and the gop'E is next.
Cool, I was just curious. So you're an engineer iin exactly what field, bridges, buildings, roads I assume?

Good discussion.  We still disagree on a few points, but we have the same goals and vision.

I'm an architect.  In AFCE everybody is tasked with repairing runways and C3 facilities during the bombing, and in peacetime working on normal design and construction.  After the AF I've been in university facility planning, design, and construction.

I don't totally disagree with you on the procedural concepts.  I just don't agree that every last case / situation is needing to more time.  I think that some don't, and should be setting the table now, for the longer game.  I don't think that every last detail is part of one huge rat's nest, that must move along monolithically.

I think that we can indeed burn and salt the dem earth if we use the criminal prosecutions to obliterate them in the elections.  I'm afraid that we give them too much wiggle room, to much room to cheat anew, if we don't.

Heard some crazy new stuff.  Now they're saying that Brennan was hands-on in killing Michael Hastings AND Seth Rich.  What a massive blowout if they can prove both of those.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 25, 2018, 08:22:23 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 25, 2018, 07:52:02 AM
Good discussion.  We still disagree on a few points, but we have the same goals and vision.

I'm an architect.  In AFCE everybody is tasked with repairing runways and C3 facilities during the bombing, and in peacetime working on normal design and construction.  After the AF I've been in university facility planning, design, and construction.

I don't totally disagree with you on the procedural concepts.  I just don't agree that every last case / situation is needing to more time.  I think that some don't, and should be setting the table now, for the longer game.  I don't think that every last detail is part of one huge rat's nest, that must move along monolithically.

I think that we can indeed burn and salt the dem earth if we use the criminal prosecutions to obliterate them in the elections.  I'm afraid that we give them too much wiggle room, to much room to cheat anew, if we don't.

Heard some crazy new stuff.  Now they're saying that Brennan was hands-on in killing Michael Hastings AND Seth Rich.  What a massive blowout if they can prove both of those.
I think the real problem is tentacles, they reach far and wide and deep into the GOP, which is a whole other roadblock to contend with.
Oh, sure, there are probably some that could be prosecuted early, but most likely aren't getting the attention they deserve for lack of manpower, these investigations require faithful Conservatives, people that won't undermine the process, this, after all, DC politics we're talking about and finding good people in a whore house is akin to searching for a needle in a haystack, so it's safe to say it was hard enough finding good people willing to risk their lives and lives of those they love to work on these investigations.

Then there's the problem of getting witnesses to talk, that alone requires a whole other army of people standing guard. I can't help but think you aren't taking into account logistics complexities and the number of people involved in bringing all of this to a point where prosecution is guaranteed.
This is the biggest fraud in American history, it deserves our patience.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 25, 2018, 09:10:05 AM
I continually hear that Trump will have to use military intel, and USMC / Marshals for manning (arrests / jailing), and military courts to administer the cases.

Just because there are still so many Obama-Clinton slags throughout DOJ, federal courts, FBI, etc.  who will sabotage everything that moves.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cadescove on July 25, 2018, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 25, 2018, 09:10:05 AM
I continually hear that Trump will have to use military intel, and USMC / Marshals for manning (arrests / jailing), and military courts to administer the cases.

Just because there are still so many Obama-Clinton slags throughout DOJ, federal courts, FBI, etc.  who will sabotage everything that moves.

What about posse comitatus?
Military courts for U.S.citizens?  How's that work?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Possum on July 25, 2018, 10:17:45 AM
One item I feel fairly confident on, once the indictments are presented, they will be ready to go to court. Unlike Mueller whose indictments were for show.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 25, 2018, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 25, 2018, 09:28:40 AM
What about posse comitatus?
Military courts for U.S.citizens?  How's that work?
I've seen some explanations that there is a distinction between regular policing and the legal aspect.  Posse Comitatus is generally looked at as making sure that the military doesn't get used as a national police force, because that is so incredibly corruptible, and is filthy corrupt wherever they have a national police.

I've seen the bridge to military tribunals described as "civilians doing treasonous acts in time of war, or with established enemies".  I guess Trump would have to establish that.  With GWOT, active terrorism, Iran, NoKo, SA, Syria, etc..... I would gather that it's doable.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Walter Josh on July 26, 2018, 03:19:17 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 25, 2018, 12:06:14 AM
Please do.
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An 18th century French anthropologist, Baron Couvier, asserted
that Mankind could be categorized by race, which he defined as:
Caucasoid/white; Negroid/black and Mongoloid/yellow.
Each racial group had shared yet distinct physical characteristics
as well as social attitudes, behaviors, impulses and traits.
He was an scientist and hardly a racist; a modern epithet.
Contemporaneous w/Couvier lived Jean Jacques Rousseau,
author of the "Social Contract" and a relentless drum beater
for egalitarianism; arguably the most disastrous notion ever
foisted on Mankind since Original Sin.
Emphatically, we are NOT equal and never were; as the history
of the world attests, in stark reality. But Rousseau refused to
accept this; having another agenda, namely power.
The seed of progressivism was universal equality which spawned
Marxism and all its diseased children.
As I don't do pious platitudes nor sanctimonious malarkey;
I chose to label Obama's water carriers, as Couvier might have.
The darkie descriptive was applied, to clarify their category,
so you wouldn't be muddled.

Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cadescove on July 26, 2018, 04:00:47 PM
Quote from: Walter Josh on July 26, 2018, 03:19:17 PM
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An 18th century French anthropologist, Baron Couvier, asserted
that Mankind could be categorized by race, which he defined as:
Caucasoid/white; Negroid/black and Mongoloid/yellow.
Each racial group had shared yet distinct physical characteristics
as well as social attitudes, behaviors, impulses and traits.
He was an scientist and hardly a racist; a modern epithet.
Contemporaneous w/Couvier lived Jean Jacques Rousseau,
author of the "Social Contract" and a relentless drum beater
for egalitarianism; arguably the most disastrous notion ever
foisted on Mankind since Original Sin.
Emphatically, we are NOT equal and never were; as the history
of the world attests, in stark reality. But Rousseau refused to
accept this; having another agenda, namely power.
The seed of progressivism was universal equality which spawned
Marxism and all its diseased children.
As I don't do pious platitudes nor sanctimonious malarkey;
I chose to label Obama's water carriers, as Couvier might have.
The darkie descriptive was applied, to clarify their category,
so you wouldn't be muddled.

Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking. Thx, I get you now.

You might want to check your source, they spelled Couvier's (sic) name wrong.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: taxed on July 26, 2018, 06:24:31 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 26, 2018, 04:00:47 PM
Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking. Thx, I get you now.

What part was racist?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 26, 2018, 06:45:07 PM
Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2018, 06:24:31 PM
What part was racist?
Racists see racism in everything.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Walter Josh on July 26, 2018, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 26, 2018, 04:00:47 PM
Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking. Thx, I get you now.

You might want to check your source, they spelled Couvier's (sic) name wrong.
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Uninterested in a urinary contest, so this drama ends here.
You asked for an explanation/rephrasing, which I provided;
that it doesn't align w/your bias, is your problem, which you own.
Your comment that Couvier's anthropology was,
"Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking" exposes
you as just another modernist cheerleader, mesmerized by
malarkey such as; 'cuz were the greatest evah....'  Hmm.....
If you were as smart as you think you are, you would know
(paraphrasing the Archbishop of Chartres commentary) that,
" We moderns are mere pygmies who only see as far as we do
because we stand on the massive shoulders of the Giants who
proceeded us, commencing in the Fertile Crescent, to Egypt,
on to Greece and Rome, the High Middle Ages, the Renaissance...."
So what the hell did they know???
But at least there's some upside here as I'll be alerting Britannica
about their mis-spelling of Couvier's name.

Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 03:41:22 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on July 26, 2018, 09:13:59 PM
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Uninterested in a urinary contest, so this drama ends here.
You asked for an explanation/rephrasing, which I provided;
that it doesn't align w/your bias, is your problem, which you own.
Your comment that Couvier's anthropology was,
"Two hundred year plus old racist antiquated thinking" exposes
you as just another modernist cheerleader, mesmerized by
malarkey such as; 'cuz were the greatest evah....'  Hmm.....
If you were as smart as you think you are, you would know
(paraphrasing the Archbishop of Chartres commentary) that,
" We moderns are mere pygmies who only see as far as we do
because we stand on the massive shoulders of the Giants who
proceeded us, commencing in the Fertile Crescent, to Egypt,
on to Greece and Rome, the High Middle Ages, the Renaissance...."
So what the hell did they know???
But at least there's some upside here as I'll be alerting Britannica
about their mis-spelling of Couvier's name.

Glad you don't want to get in a passing contest, you probably don't have the equipment.

When you quote a scientific racist you risk getting branded.

QuoteCuvier thought the Caucasian skull was the most beautifully shaped. He divided humanity into three races: white, yellow and black, and rated each for the beauty or ugliness of the skull and quality of their civilizations. According to Cuvier, a European, the White race was at the top, and the black race was at the bottom.

Cuvier wrote about Caucasians (Europeans):

The white race, with oval face, straight hair and nose, to which the civilised people of Europe belong and which appear to us the most beautiful of all, is also superior to others by its genius, courage and activity.

Regarding Negros, Cuvier wrote:

The Negro race... is marked by black complexion, crisped of woolly hair, compressed cranium and a flat nose, The projection of the lower parts of the face, and the thick lips, evidently approximate it to the monkey tribe: the hordes of which it consists have always remained in the most complete state of barbarism.

Again, thanks for showing what you are.

BTW, Britannia had him spelled correctly, hmmm I wonder where you can ups have gotten an opinionated quote from?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 03:49:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2018, 06:45:07 PM
Racists see racism in everything.

Says the one who links noted racist Hal Turner and then runs away from it.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/putin-gives-trump-160-terabytes-of-communication-intercepts/msg362366/#msg362366

Tsk, tsk.
Wow, that tinfoil hat thread died an ignominious death quickly.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2018, 06:33:33 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 03:49:50 AM
Says the one who links noted racist Hal Turner and then runs away from it.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/putin-gives-trump-160-terabytes-of-communication-intercepts/msg362366/#msg362366

Tsk, tsk.
Wow, that tinfoil hat thread died an ignominious death quickly.  :thumbsup:
OK, where did I supposedly run away? It was you that made the topic about race, and that should concern you.
When all you focus on is the issue of race while completely discounting what someone has to say, this is the earmark of a racist.
Here you are again with Walter, taking a piece of historical knowledge and focusing on one element, race, so again, you wear your brand proudly, never once considering the knowledge being imparted.

How can I get it through your fucking head, no one gives a shit about race, it's essentially a Leftist construct, now a tool of the left and your constant attention to it exposes you for two things, a racist as well as a brainwashed leftist tool, a useful Idiot, f you will.

Can you not see that you have been programmed like Pavlov's dogs to react to anything perceived racist, even from an anthropological POV, are you really such a Leftist follower, that you're willing to further the divide our culture?
I feel sorry for you, having to go through life wearing the prism of a racist and never seeing people for their character and actions, because if you used character as your measure, you'd see the left for what they truly are. They've made you feel inferior and jealous, rather than accept who you are and be proud of yourself and quit viewing yourself as a victim.
I hope to God one day you wake up from the Koolaide hangover and see the truth.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
Racism is a leftist construct?


Historical knowledge? Darkies?

You didn't defend Hal Turner, is it because it's indefensible?

You are a very strange individual.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2018, 06:55:36 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
Racism is a leftist construct?


Historical knowledge? Darkies?

You didn't defend Hal Turner, is it because it's indefensible?

You are a very strange individual.
What you perceive as yesteryear racism, was not viewed in the same pretext it is today, just because someone would describe someones facial features and compare them to a monkey, was not necessarily racist, merely a true comparison. Are you trying to deny reality now?
This is what the left has created, a bunch of browbeaten kids dissuaded from speaking the truth.
Much could be compared in other races such as the Mongols, but doing so is merely an observation of physical traits. If history had used your constraints when observing homo-sapiens, science would be in perpetuity, the dark ages.

As to Turner, II only care about his sources, it is you that use leftist commie propaganda to destroy the messenger.
Did you even read through the Wiki post and its sources? it reads like an Al Sharpton donor list!
I truly feel sorry for you resorting to using a known Marxist site like the Southern Poverty Leftist Center as your guide. Kiiiid, wake the fuck up and learn about these groups and just how unamerican they are.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 07:06:09 AM
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Cuvier thought the Caucasian skull was the most beautifully shaped. He divided humanity into three races: white, yellow and black, and rated each for the beauty or ugliness of the skull and quality of their civilizations. According to Cuvier, a European, the White race was at the top, and the black race was at the bottom.

Cuvier wrote about Caucasians (Europeans):

The white race, with oval face, straight hair and nose, to which the civilised people of Europe belong and which appear to us the most beautiful of all, is also superior to others by its genius, courage and activity.

Regarding Negros, Cuvier wrote:

The Negro race... is marked by black complexion, crisped of woolly hair, compressed cranium and a flat nose, The projection of the lower parts of the face, and the thick lips, evidently approximate it to the monkey tribe: the hordes of which it consists have always remained in the most complete state of barbarism.

That's the very definition of racism, woody you can't see that.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2018, 07:19:42 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 07:06:09 AM
Quote
Cuvier thought the Caucasian skull was the most beautifully shaped. He divided humanity into three races: white, yellow and black, and rated each for the beauty or ugliness of the skull and quality of their civilizations. According to Cuvier, a European, the White race was at the top, and the black race was at the bottom.

Cuvier wrote about Caucasians (Europeans):

The white race, with oval face, straight hair and nose, to which the civilised people of Europe belong and which appear to us the most beautiful of all, is also superior to others by its genius, courage and activity.

Regarding Negros, Cuvier wrote:

The Negro race... is marked by black complexion, crisped of woolly hair, compressed cranium and a flat nose, The projection of the lower parts of the face, and the thick lips, evidently approximate it to the monkey tribe: the hordes of which it consists have always remained in the most complete state of barbarism.

That's the very definition of racism, woody you can't see that.
This is exactly my point! It is morons like you that want to burn books because it disrupts your sensitivities and view of right and wrong.
You learn from the past, but to view it in the context of our current repressive and regressive backward culture is destructively paralyzing.

Do you not see what the left is doing by creating a bunch of snowflakes such as yourself, in how you see yourself as a victim?
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 27, 2018, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 07:06:09 AM
Quote
Cuvier thought the Caucasian skull was the most beautifully shaped. He divided humanity into three races: white, yellow and black, and rated each for the beauty or ugliness of the skull and quality of their civilizations. According to Cuvier, a European, the White race was at the top, and the black race was at the bottom.

Cuvier wrote about Caucasians (Europeans):

The white race, with oval face, straight hair and nose, to which the civilised people of Europe belong and which appear to us the most beautiful of all, is also superior to others by its genius, courage and activity.

Regarding Negros, Cuvier wrote:

The Negro race... is marked by black complexion, crisped of woolly hair, compressed cranium and a flat nose, The projection of the lower parts of the face, and the thick lips, evidently approximate it to the monkey tribe: the hordes of which it consists have always remained in the most complete state of barbarism.

That's the very definition of racism, woody you can't see that.

It's not racism to observe physical characteristics, and prefer some over others.

The textbook definition of racism always was "to claim the superiority of one race over another".  I guess to be extrapolated out to insults for one, or celebrations of another.

But certainly not "have an opinion that I don't like".

It's like LGBT.  "Homophobe" is a stupid malaprop.  Nobody's afraid of a mincing, wincing, prancing fool.  Or anybody who doesn't act like that and just lives their life with some dignity and privacy.

Islamophobe also.  The only islamists that anyone fears are the assholes who strap C4 to themselves to blow up scores of innocent people.

All the "phobes" and "ists" have boiled down to one thing for whiny little leftists -

"racism = everything and everybody who won't agree with me, really anybody who won't praise everything I say".

What a piss poor way to go through life. And it IS the whole democrat, leftist, liberal, progressive community now.

As a matter of fact they've amped it up in the last year - "everybody who won't praise me is LITERALLY  HITLER and NAZIIIIIII !!!"

Supremely childish.  A whole segment of America.  What a filthy shame.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: AndyJackson on July 27, 2018, 08:51:06 AM
Quote from: Cadescove on July 27, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
Racism is a leftist construct?


Historical knowledge? Darkies?

You didn't defend Hal Turner, is it because it's indefensible?

You are a very strange individual.
Yep.  Racism was invented by the left in the assumption that black people and other minorities should be owned by democrats, and taken care of in a subservient, incompetent existence.

Starting with slavery and Jim Crow, democrat inventions and strongholds, extending all the way to today where non-democrat blacks are called "Uncle Toms" ..... brazenly, in public, to their faces, by democrats.  I read black liberals using this term everywhere on the internet, and they're proud to sling it at conservative or GOP African Americans.  See it real time on TV news and radio as well.  They are proud to say it.

The GOP was literally created to snatch slavery from democrats, and today that translates to snatching away from democrats, their destruction of the black community in Chicago, Detroit, LA, Oakland, MD, NYC, STL, Ferguson, and many others.  All for their votes.

Hal Turner and dumbass terms for black people ?  I have no use for them.  But neither absolve democrats for their ~175 years of racism.

There are no doubt some racists stumbling around out there on the right.  But they don't have a whole community and political party dedicated to racism.
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: walkstall on July 27, 2018, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 27, 2018, 08:51:06 AM
Yep.  Racism was invented by the left in the assumption that black people and other minorities should be owned by democrats, and taken care of in a subservient, incompetent existence.

Starting with slavery and Jim Crow, democrat inventions and strongholds, extending all the way to today where non-democrat blacks are called "Uncle Toms" ..... brazenly, in public, to their faces, by democrats.  I read black liberals using this term everywhere on the internet, and they're proud to sling it at conservative or GOP African Americans.  See it real time on TV news and radio as well.  They are proud to say it.

The GOP was literally created to snatch slavery from democrats, and today that translates to snatching away from democrats, their destruction of the black community in Chicago, Detroit, LA, Oakland, MD, NYC, STL, Ferguson, and many others.  All for their votes.

Hal Turner and dumbass terms for black people ?  I have no use for them.  But neither absolve democrats for their ~175 years of racism.

There are no doubt some racists stumbling around out there on the right.  But they don't have a whole community and political party dedicated to racism.

We also have white people that think and feel they are better than other white people.  All you have to do is look at Hillary and Bill Clinton,  Comey and Strzok along with over half of congress. 
Title: Re: Gregg Jarrett: Comey and Strzok -- Two key players in the scheme to clear Clinto
Post by: Walter Josh on July 27, 2018, 01:18:24 PM
Jax,
Your comment that "it is not racism to observe physical characteristics";
is the core definition of anthropology and remains beyond obvious.
That is what Couvier did in defining racial groups, recognizing both the
shared characteristics among Men as well as their distinct and unique
physical and social differences.
An anecdote about the name (not the it means squat).
The family came from a Swiss Province where the original spelling was Cuvier.
Decades later, the Province was absorbed by France and the spelling shifted
to Couvier.
For a moment I thought the spelling crank that Walks chased out the door,
was back again.