I don't think he will get all he wants on immigration. I believe most illegal immigrants without records will end up staying in the us. It's a logistics and legal issue. However he can make it hard for them to want to stay.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 25, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
I don't think he will get all he wants on immigration. I believe most illegal immigrants without records will end up staying in the us. It's a logistics and legal issue. However he can make it hard for them to want to stay.

Yeah, like making it illegal to employ them.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 25, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
I don't think he will get all he wants on immigration. I believe most illegal immigrants without records will end up staying in the us. It's a logistics and legal issue. However he can make it hard for them to want to stay.

The beauty of it is Trump doesn't have to do anything OTHER THAN INSIST THAT DHS/ICE etc DO THEIR JOBS. The laws already exist. The EXo's he is signing are just EXO's undoing Obamao's EXO preventing immigration and Border Patrol from doing their job. As far as "banning" people from Muslim Countries or source terrorist countries that is just a matter of policy not law as a person has no RIGHT to immigrate or obtain a VISA.

Now I don't beleive the LETTER of the law will be applied, IE everybody will get rounded up and deported, but I do beleive the SPIRIT of the law will be enforced and that will go a long ways towards PREVENTATIVE measures regarding illegal immigration.

Shut off the magnets such as sanctuary cities and free health care and you shut off the flow.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2017, 07:06:02 PM

The beauty of it is Trump doesn't have to do anything OTHER THAN INSIST THAT DHS/ICE etc DO THEIR JOBS. The laws already exist. The EXo's he is signing are just EXO's undoing Obamao's EXO preventing immigration and Border Patrol from doing their job. As far as "banning" people from Muslim Countries or source terrorist countries that is just a matter of policy not law as a person has no RIGHT to immigrate or obtain a VISA.

Now I don't beleive the LETTER of the law will be applied, IE everybody will get rounded up and deported, but I do beleive the SPIRIT of the law will be enforced and that will go a long ways towards PREVENTATIVE measures regarding illegal immigration.

Shut off the magnets such as sanctuary cities and free health care and you shut off the flow.

Add to that short list, enforce the penalties for HIRING illegals and I believe we will take care of the problem very quickly. 

Quote from: s3779m on January 26, 2017, 03:17:07 AM
Add to that short list, enforce the penalties for HIRING illegals and I believe we will take care of the problem very quickly.

MAJOR fines and even Criminal penalties for those that employ Illegals.

Yes, even, and most especially, those that pick them up outside Home Depot.

There needs to be STINGS to deter people from even thinking of hiring them.

Quote from: Rotwang on January 26, 2017, 08:49:57 AM
MAJOR fines and even Criminal penalties for those that employ Illegals.

Yes, even, and most especially, those that pick them up outside Home Depot.

There needs to be STINGS to deter people from even thinking of hiring them.

Exactly, illegals get hired from home depot to save money, that needs to go. Obey the law.