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Title: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Solar on January 24, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
DAPA and DACA

Deferred Action for the Parents of Americans....Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

He campaigned against them, stated immigration was his priority, and here we are, Tuesday's over and still nothing, not even an honorable mention of his plans.
Are you backing out Trump, are you reneging on your #1 Pledge?
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Rotwang on January 24, 2017, 04:12:13 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
DAPA and DACA

Deferred Action for the Parents of Americans....Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

He campaigned against them, stated immigration was his priority, and here we are, Tuesday's over and still nothing, not even an honorable mention of his plans.
Are you backing out Trump, are you reneging on your #1 Pledge?

Agreed.

But I've been getting so much red meat, each day, so far my blood is nowheres near boiling (yet).

And I'm eagerly anticipating the SCOTUS appointment scheduled for next week.

If President Trump chooses the right people, America's future will be secure.

But yeah, he needs to slap the Illegals - and SOON.

Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Rotwang on January 24, 2017, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
DAPA and DACA

Deferred Action for the Parents of Americans....Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

He campaigned against them, stated immigration was his priority, and here we are, Tuesday's over and still nothing, not even an honorable mention of his plans.
Are you backing out Trump, are you reneging on your #1 Pledge?

Well, it seems President Trump will be banning at least some Muslims.

Exclusive: Trump expected to sign executive orders on immigration


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-exclusive-idUSKBN1582XQ?il=0 (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-exclusive-idUSKBN1582XQ?il=0)

And...

"Other measures may include directing all agencies to finish work on a biometric identification system for non-citizens entering and exiting the United States and a crackdown on immigrants fraudulently receiving government benefits, according to the congressional aides and immigration experts."
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Bronx on January 24, 2017, 04:46:51 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on January 24, 2017, 04:41:14 PM
Well, it seems President Trump will be banning at least some Muslims.

Exclusive: Trump expected to sign executive orders on immigration


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-exclusive-idUSKBN1582XQ?il=0 (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-exclusive-idUSKBN1582XQ?il=0)

And...

"Other measures may include directing all agencies to finish work on a biometric identification system for non-citizens entering and exiting the United States and a crackdown on immigrants fraudulently receiving government benefits, according to the congressional aides and immigration experts."

What we don't have a friggin congress anymore...?
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Bronx on January 24, 2017, 04:48:32 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
DAPA and DACA

Deferred Action for the Parents of Americans....Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

He campaigned against them, stated immigration was his priority, and here we are, Tuesday's over and still nothing, not even an honorable mention of his plans.
Are you backing out Trump, are you reneging on your #1 Pledge?


I don't even wanna comment so enjoy the reading.

Feds STILL ACCEPTING applications from illegals for OBAMA amnesty, despite Trump's promise

http://therightscoop.com/feds-still-accepting-applications-from-illegals-for-obama-amnesty-despite-trumps-promise/
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Solar on January 24, 2017, 05:13:08 PM
Quote from: Bronx on January 24, 2017, 04:48:32 PM

I don't even wanna comment so enjoy the reading.

Feds STILL ACCEPTING applications from illegals for OBAMA amnesty, despite Trump's promise

http://therightscoop.com/feds-still-accepting-applications-from-illegals-for-obama-amnesty-despite-trumps-promise/
This is why I posted it, DAPA & DACA both are still up and working and both need to stop yesterday.
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Rotwang on January 24, 2017, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: Bronx on January 24, 2017, 04:46:51 PM
What we don't have a friggin congress anymore...?

They are not Term-Limited; are Fat and Happy; USELESS.

And have been for a long time.
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: redbeard on January 24, 2017, 05:56:03 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
DAPA and DACA

Deferred Action for the Parents of Americans....Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

He campaigned against them, stated immigration was his priority, and here we are, Tuesday's over and still nothing, not even an honorable mention of his plans.
Are you backing out Trump, are you reneging on your #1 Pledge?
Give him time Solar! He still needs his cabinet members ratified in the senate and I am sure his has really pissed off the dim's with todays actions! It is coming. I read a report last week that they have 200 actions already written up. what has he signed so far? 10? God it must be hell to be a democrat right now!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 24, 2017, 05:58:55 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
DAPA and DACA

Deferred Action for the Parents of Americans....Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

He campaigned against them, stated immigration was his priority, and here we are, Tuesday's over and still nothing, not even an honorable mention of his plans.
Are you backing out Trump, are you reneging on your #1 Pledge?

Wednesday he signs EXO's on Immigration while meeting with DHS....the Hammer comes down!!!!!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-move-border-security-immigration-enforcement-012415518--politics.html
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 24, 2017, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: Bronx on January 24, 2017, 04:46:51 PM
What we don't have a friggin congress anymore...?
They have given up most of their power to the oval office.
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2017, 09:56:58 AM
Thanks for listening Don...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to sign executive orders starting on Wednesday that include a temporary ban on most refugees and a suspension of visas for citizens of Syria and six other Middle Eastern and African countries, say congressional aides and immigration experts briefed on the matter.

Trump, who tweeted that a "big day" was planned on national security on Wednesday, is expected to ban for several months the entry of refugees into the United States, except for religious minorities escaping persecution, until more aggressive vetting is in place.

Another order will block visas being issued to anyone from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, said the aides and experts, who asked not to be identified.

In his tweet late on Tuesday, Trump said: "Big day planned on NATIONAL SECURITY tomorrow. Among many other things, we will build the wall!"
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-expected-sign-executive-orders-immigration-001530555.html
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 25, 2017, 01:35:11 PM
It's a good start.
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: redbeard on January 25, 2017, 03:56:48 PM

Quote"To better inform the public regarding the public safety threats associated with sanctuary jurisdictions, the Secretary shall utilize the Declined Detainer Outcome Report or its equivalent and, on a weekly basis, make public a comprehensive list of criminal actions committed by aliens and any jurisdiction that ignored or otherwise failed to honor any detainers with respect to such aliens," the order reads

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/trump-orders-weekly-list-crimes-committed-illegals-sanctuary-cities/
They will have a really hard time hiding the impact on their city with this order! Pulling funds that will have to be made up by the tax payers in order to protect criminals should go over great with the average tax payer in these cities! A great move by Trump!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Hoofer on January 25, 2017, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: redbeard on January 25, 2017, 03:56:48 PM
They will have a really hard time hiding the impact on their city with this order! Pulling funds that will have to be made up by the tax payers in order to protect criminals should go over great with the average tax payer in these cities! A great move by Trump!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Missed this part:
QuoteIn order to better inform Americans about the impact illegal aliens are having on crime rates in sanctuary cities, President Donald Trump today ordered the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security to publish a weekly list of crimes committed by illegals.

smart move, Donald...  how to *move* public opinion from sympathy for illegals to outrage, should read:

In order to better inform sway Americans public opinion about the impact enforcing the law & deporting illegal aliens are having on crime rates in sanctuary cities, President Donald Trump today ordered the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security to publish a weekly list of crimes committed by illegals, proving they are criminals.

It's not just smart, he's showing his stuff at understanding how people think, and how to shape opinion.  What happens when he starts doing stuff we object to....?  Jacking up inflation & national debt, for instance?
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: redbeard on January 25, 2017, 06:27:54 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on January 25, 2017, 05:02:34 PM
Missed this part:
smart move, Donald...  how to *move* public opinion from sympathy for illegals to outrage, should read:

In order to better inform sway Americans public opinion about the impact enforcing the law & deporting illegal aliens are having on crime rates in sanctuary cities, President Donald Trump today ordered the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security to publish a weekly list of crimes committed by illegals, proving they are criminals.

It's not just smart, he's showing his stuff at understanding how people think, and how to shape opinion.  What happens when he starts doing stuff we object to....?  Jacking up inflation & national debt, for instance?
Just have to deal with it when it comes! Right now I'm just enjoying the melt down! Who knows the guy just might work out but I'm with you and waiting for that shoe to fall!
Somethings I really like about this guy but I'm also worried about the down side! I say give it time and enjoy what he has done to the opposition party! God, I've been waiting a long time to see someone hand it to them Trump may just turn out to be the right person at the right time. Could you imagine where we would be if Hillary won?
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 25, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
I don't think he will get all he wants on immigration. I believe most illegal immigrants without records will end up staying in the us. It's a logistics and legal issue. However he can make it hard for them to want to stay.
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2017, 06:44:42 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 25, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
I don't think he will get all he wants on immigration. I believe most illegal immigrants without records will end up staying in the us. It's a logistics and legal issue. However he can make it hard for them to want to stay.
Yeah, like making it illegal to employ them.
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2017, 07:06:02 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 25, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
I don't think he will get all he wants on immigration. I believe most illegal immigrants without records will end up staying in the us. It's a logistics and legal issue. However he can make it hard for them to want to stay.


The beauty of it is Trump doesn't have to do anything OTHER THAN INSIST THAT DHS/ICE etc DO THEIR JOBS. The laws already exist. The EXo's he is signing are just EXO's undoing Obamao's EXO preventing immigration and Border Patrol from doing their job. As far as "banning" people from Muslim Countries or source terrorist countries that is just a matter of policy not law as a person has no RIGHT to immigrate or obtain a VISA.

Now I don't beleive the LETTER of the law will be applied, IE everybody will get rounded up and deported, but I do beleive the SPIRIT of the law will be enforced and that will go a long ways towards PREVENTATIVE measures regarding illegal immigration.

Shut off the magnets such as sanctuary cities and free health care and you shut off the flow.
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Possum on January 26, 2017, 03:17:07 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2017, 07:06:02 PM

The beauty of it is Trump doesn't have to do anything OTHER THAN INSIST THAT DHS/ICE etc DO THEIR JOBS. The laws already exist. The EXo's he is signing are just EXO's undoing Obamao's EXO preventing immigration and Border Patrol from doing their job. As far as "banning" people from Muslim Countries or source terrorist countries that is just a matter of policy not law as a person has no RIGHT to immigrate or obtain a VISA.

Now I don't beleive the LETTER of the law will be applied, IE everybody will get rounded up and deported, but I do beleive the SPIRIT of the law will be enforced and that will go a long ways towards PREVENTATIVE measures regarding illegal immigration.

Shut off the magnets such as sanctuary cities and free health care and you shut off the flow.
Add to that short list, enforce the penalties for HIRING illegals and I believe we will take care of the problem very quickly. 
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Rotwang on January 26, 2017, 08:49:57 AM
Quote from: s3779m on January 26, 2017, 03:17:07 AM
Add to that short list, enforce the penalties for HIRING illegals and I believe we will take care of the problem very quickly.

MAJOR fines and even Criminal penalties for those that employ Illegals.

Yes, even, and most especially, those that pick them up outside Home Depot.

There needs to be STINGS to deter people from even thinking of hiring them.
Title: Re: OK Trump Times Up!
Post by: Possum on January 26, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on January 26, 2017, 08:49:57 AM
MAJOR fines and even Criminal penalties for those that employ Illegals.

Yes, even, and most especially, those that pick them up outside Home Depot.

There needs to be STINGS to deter people from even thinking of hiring them.
Exactly, illegals get hired from home depot to save money, that needs to go. Obey the law.