Darth Vader of the East.

Started by Devushka, January 14, 2017, 08:23:04 AM

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Solar

Quote from: taxed on January 14, 2017, 09:18:24 AM
Why?  This is a political forum.
Translation: I voted for Zyuganov because he was the communist party pick.
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Solar

Quote from: walkstall on January 14, 2017, 09:22:11 AM
Could be she has to go home sometime.   :popcorn:
A lot of truth in that. Sad, very sad.
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Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
Translation: I voted for Zyuganov because he was the communist party pick.

Wait, I think I'm a communist?

taxed

Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
Translation: I voted for Zyuganov because he was the communist party pick.

That's a shame.
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Communists took away our land in 1905 and killed almost every single person in our village, it never improved after this. You may assume that every Russian must of'course be a communist but you are wrong and judging by your media, US has a lot more communists than all the former Soviet republics combined.

Solar

Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 09:30:35 AM
Wait, I think I'm a communist?
Funny how you come to a political forum where the members unabashedly state they never supported Trump, adamantly stuck behind Cruz and proudly state their unwavering Conservative moors.
Yet afraid to state hers, why?
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Devushka

I meant to say You, not I in that sentense.
My reason for not voting for Putin: I never FELT like our elections were honest, which they never were, I never voted in my elections.
I tried once but saw something that should never happen in democratic elections. So I left.
Does this answer your question? Do I love my country less? No.

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Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 09:18:37 AM
I find this terrifying as well but age is irrelevant in most instances.


True!  But there has been thing done and said on both sides.  That young people your age will never know about.  The history books have been rewritten for a long time, depending who is in power.  It is going on even to day. 
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Devushka

Quote from: walkstall on January 14, 2017, 09:42:13 AM

True!  But there has been thing done and said on both sides.  That young people your age will never know about.  The history books have been rewritten for a long time, depending who is in power.  It is going on even to day.

Makes sense

Devushka

I believe your electoral process is democratic. When your elections ended and Trump won, many were not happy and blamed my country for the result, except that millions of US citizens did not actually vote, some voted for a chimp called Harambe.

Solar

Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 09:33:45 AM
Communists took away our land in 1905 and killed almost every single person in our village, it never improved after this. You may assume that every Russian must of'course be a communist but you are wrong and judging by your media, US has a lot more communists than all the former Soviet republics combined.
I know that even Gorbachev came here and started something called the "Green Cross" just another name for the communist movement. But it's true, we tried to purge the commie threat in the 50s, only to wind up with them taking over the Dem party 50 years later.

Not sure if you've ever seen this, but here's an excerpt taken from a book called the "Naked Communist.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/library/communist-goals-(1963)/
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Devushka

Soviet Union was never true communist country, party members had all things, everyone else was dirt poor.

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Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2017, 10:08:39 AM
I know that even Gorbachev came here and started something called the "Green Cross" just another name for the communist movement. But it's true, we tried to purge the commie threat in the 50s, only to wind up with them taking over the Dem party 50 years later.

Not sure if you've ever seen this, but here's an excerpt taken from a book called the "Naked Communist.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/library/communist-goals-(1963)/

I will read the link, thanks.
Your country loved Gorbachev but for us, he was a terrible leader, we did not understand why the West admired him so much. I know that Americans think that Gorbachev is the one who broke up Soviet Union but the fall didn't depend on just any one person.
Soviet Union was never financially sustainable, this is really the main reason. Free market is ideal for financial health, which we did not have.

Solar

Quote from: Devushka on January 14, 2017, 10:11:02 AM
Soviet Union was never true communist country, party members had all things, everyone else was dirt poor.
You do know, that's the dictionary description of communism. right?
Communism is all about the classless society, 99% of the country is the poor and oppressed, while the elite reaps the benefits of oppression of the masses.
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Just a note.
Thanks for letting me post here, I really enjoy the conversations here. I don' know if I'm the only foreigner here but I also don't want to intrude.
I'm posting a lot right now because my ribs are badly injured due to an accident in my Kozak fencing class in the Ukrainian church I'm part of, I can't move very much right now, hopefully will feel better in a few days and post less, most probably :)
For now, thanks for keeping me company.