Miss. judge jails attorney for not reciting pledge.

Started by walkstall, October 06, 2010, 08:30:37 PM

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Harry

We do live in one nation, made up of 50 independent states, under a republican form of government.

Quotere·pub·lic   
[ri-puhb-lik]  Show IPA
–noun
1.
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2.
any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3.
a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4.
( initial capital letter ) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
5.
( initial capital letter, italics ) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/republic

Harry

Another thought: Forcing someone to say something they don't want to is in direct contradiction with the first amendment, and in a courtroom, which the fifth amendment is designed to rule, is shameful. I realize emotions are involved here, but remember, we are a nation of laws, and not men.

quiller

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1943 that no school child may be compelled to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. This preceded the 1954 U.S. law adding "under God" to that Pledge, and remains in effect today.

The judge is full of crap. He reportedly did it again the following day, likely bringing this to a lawsuit and ultimately a slap from higher judges.

walkstall

Quote from: quiller on October 08, 2010, 06:11:11 AM
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1943 that no school child may be compelled to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. This preceded the 1954 U.S. law adding "under God" to that Pledge, and remains in effect today.

The judge is full of crap. He reportedly did it again the following day, likely bringing this to a lawsuit and ultimately a slap from higher judges.

And I was thinking we had them all in the 9th  ;D
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

quiller

My imagination might be playing tricks on me here, but as I recall, it was a Texas judge who got impeached and removed for using sex toys on himself during actual trials. You might be right.

Pagan

Quote from: Harry on October 08, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
We do live in one nation, made up of 50 independent states, under a republican form of government.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/republic

Really?

Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

OK if you say so

Then what's all the fuss about "States Rights"?
Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.
Μηκέθ ὅλως περὶ τοῦ οἷόν τινα εἶναι τὸν ἀγαθὸν ἄνδρα διαλέγεσθαι, ἀλλὰ εἶναι τοιοῦτον.

-- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus

quiller

Another NEA-educated liberal.

America is a constitutional representative republic, not a democracy.

Elfie

ok, I cant stand it any more,lol.   Good the judge  tossed the attorney in jail.yep I know it will create havoic and probably on a law issue will.. court= judge=attorney==justice. Justice being the key word here. Since there is so much define this and that,,,how about this,,,have you heard Red Skelton explain just what the pledge means? If not ok,  here it is....
Red & The Pledge

It seems to me that if a judge wants the pledge spoken in his/her court room so be it...that court room is supposed to be "justice for all"
maybe it's their way of settin the page before it even starts.
then again---I could be wrong...
;)
Nature is an infinite sphere of which the center is everywhere and the circumference nowhere.
Blaise Pascal

Solar

Elfie, Thank You sooo much for posting that, he is an excellent example of a fine American.
I miss that man.

Not to mention, prophetic.
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Q PATRIOT!!!

Pagan

Quote from: quiller on October 08, 2010, 09:12:43 AM
Another NEA-educated liberal.

America is a constitutional representative republic, not a democracy.

Yep, as I posted here and people still don't seem to have a clue -

Quote from: Pagan on October 07, 2010, 06:02:21 PM
pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

The U.S. is a Union of 50 independent States.

It's all about the indoctrination of the people to accept one powerful central government.  Just like the indoctrination that we are a Democracy when in fact we're a Republic, there's a big difference.

Being written by a Radical Socialist should give you a clue.

People also don't seem to have the ability to read either -

Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.
Μηκέθ ὅλως περὶ τοῦ οἷόν τινα εἶναι τὸν ἀγαθὸν ἄνδρα διαλέγεσθαι, ἀλλὰ εἶναι τοιοῦτον.

-- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus

Harry

Quote from: Pagan on October 08, 2010, 08:11:55 AM
Really?

Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

OK if you say so

Then what's all the fuss about "States Rights"?

Do you know what the word union means?

Solar

I have to wonder if this is the judges form of swearing in, something that is required.
Now I don't know if it's customary, or a law, but I know when ever I had to attend court, which was more than 5o times, I was sworn in.
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Pagan

Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.
Μηκέθ ὅλως περὶ τοῦ οἷόν τινα εἶναι τὸν ἀγαθὸν ἄνδρα διαλέγεσθαι, ἀλλὰ εἶναι τοιοῦτον.

-- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus

Harry


Pagan

Quote from: Harry on October 08, 2010, 11:23:42 AM
You know exactly what I mean.

Aaah yeah, like in the context of governments which if you didn't know the European Union is and the Constitution also defines    ???

Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

You do know that States have their "Own" Constitution don't you?  If they weren't independent States then why would they require their own Constitution eh?
Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.
Μηκέθ ὅλως περὶ τοῦ οἷόν τινα εἶναι τὸν ἀγαθὸν ἄνδρα διαλέγεσθαι, ἀλλὰ εἶναι τοιοῦτον.

-- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus