Here are some excerpts from an article by Victor Davis Hanson
published on February 3, 2016.
If you want to see the full article, either of these two links should work.

http://www.standupamericaus.org/politics-washington-dc/22533/
http://www.standupamericaus.org/?p=22533

   Forget Trump but Not the Trumpsters
   By Victor Davis Hanson — National Review

Memo to RNC: Stop ridiculing Trump and look at what voters see in him.

A disclaimer: Trump is not my preferred candidate.
I hope he does not win the Republican nomination.
But I understand why millions seem to be mesmerized by his rhetoric.

I certainly wish that Trump would not
insult rivals and newspeople in callous and uncouth fashion.
...

Yet the question is not whether Trump comes across as
a scatter-shot speaker, a bully, an adolescent, and a narcissist ...
but whether, by the standards of our postmodern, 21st-century culture,
he is, as is usually alleged, an aberrant political figure,
so beyond the pale that he cannot be taken seriously
as a presidential candidate.

In relativist terms, I'm afraid that is just not true.
...

(Here Mr. Hanson cites numerous examples of
outrageous, offensive rhetoric by top Democrats,
as the media excuses and validates their verbal sewage.)

The point is only that Trump is well within today's political norms
— at least the debased norms established by our corrupt media
and by public perceptions of what is said and done by
supposedly caring and empathetic progressives
such as Obama, Clinton, Biden, and Reid.
The battle to create a polite and courteous society in 21st-century America
was lost some years ago — often by hypocrites who now
both engage in and deplore political smear and slander.
...

Yes, we should aspire to absolutes and not define morality down,
but before we lose our collective heads over Trump,
it is valuable to take a deep breath
and look hard at the alternative reality that we now assume is normal
in the age of the Obama administration and its enablers in the media
...

Trump has done the Republican party lots of damage,
but he has also done it some good by reminding its leaders that
victory lies in swinging a ball and chain through
the flimsy glass mirror of political correctness
and the current liberal spectacle of
very wealthy people projecting race and class injustice onto others
as a way of excusing their own privilege.

Far better than ridiculing Trump as a showboat
would be to show more constructive passion than does Trump
and to discover what makes sane citizens see him as their last resort.
Rather than dismissing his empty populism,
it would be wiser to fill it in.

Here's a little shout-out from me I intend to enforce every time I see you repeat this. You are in violation of U.S. Copyright Law and you will cease and you WILL desist, is that crystalline clear?

TWO HUNDRED WORDS. THAT IS AN EXCERPT---- NOT THIS THEFT ABOVE.

Any questions? You'll find out, I will NOT relent. Get this straight and ghet it straight NOW. This site cannot afford lawsuits over your carelessness.

REPORTED TO ADMIN

>yawn<  ...as if we don't know that.  Sounds like he's been listening to Rush Limbaugh, trying to analyze Trump's successes, and ignoring what Trump lacks - sound policy!



No mention of Ted Cruz.  says enough for me.

A couple of things. Yes, it was a CR violation.
Second, what a bull shit puff piece of an excuse for voting for Trump.
"Vote Trump" Send a message to the GOP'e at the expense of losing the nation to Marxists, but you'll "FEEL" better having voted for a leftist.

What a load of shit! Playing to the emotions the LIV in such an obvious way if anything explains the real issues on the right, just too God Damned many stupid uneducated dolts voting, and throw in the other half of Trump's base, lib kids, and you have a recipe for disaster.

So I have to ask, why in the Hell did you post such an obvious puff piece? Downright embarrassing.

Quote from: admin on April 22, 2016, 07:02:54 AM
A couple of things. Yes, it was a CR violation.
Second, what a bull shit puff piece of an excuse for voting for Trump.
"Vote Trump" Send a message to the GOP'e at the expense of losing the nation to Marxists, but you'll "FEEL" better having voted for a leftist.

What a load of shit! Playing to the emotions the LIV in such an obvious way if anything explains the real issues on the right, just too God Damned many stupid uneducated dolts voting, and throw in the other half of Trump's base, lib kids, and you have a recipe for disaster.

So I have to ask, why in the Hell did you post such an obvious puff piece? Downright embarrassing.

Okay.  Two hundred words.  I'll remember that. 

The main point Mr. Hanson was making was that
Mr. Trump is exploiting the FAILURE of the GOPe
to address Americans' issues.

He doesn't want people to vote for Trump.
He wants the GOP to get its act together,
to prevent buffoons like Trump from stealing their support.

Quote from: je_freedom on April 22, 2016, 07:55:30 AM
Okay.  Two hundred words.  I'll remember that. 

The main point Mr. Hanson was making was that
Mr. Trump is exploiting the FAILURE of the GOPe
to address Americans' issues.

He doesn't want people to vote for Trump.
He wants the GOP to get its act together,
to prevent buffoons like Trump from stealing their support.

I won't hold you or anyone else to 200, but always use your best judgement when teasing an article so people are enticed to click the link and finish reading.

In this case, you read the excuse the author used to hide what was nothing more than a Trump puff piece designed to assuage guilt of idiots in supporting a liberal on the GOP ticket..

Quote from: je_freedom on April 22, 2016, 07:55:30 AM
Okay.  Two hundred words.  I'll remember that. 

The main point Mr. Hanson was making was that
Mr. Trump is exploiting the FAILURE of the GOPe
to address Americans' issues.

No.  That's what Cruz is doing.  Trump promotes liberalism and donates to liberals.

Quote from: je_freedom on April 22, 2016, 07:55:30 AM
Okay.  Two hundred words.  I'll remember that. 

The main point Mr. Hanson was making was that Mr. Trump is exploiting the FAILURE of the GOPe to address Americans' issues.

He doesn't want people to vote for Trump.
He wants the GOP to get its act together, to prevent buffoons like Trump from stealing their support.

As each day goes by, doesn't it look more and more like a Democrat sneaked into the Republican tent, and is using well-worn Democrat talking points to lure Republican voters?

Bridges and infrastructure crumbling
massive debt.
centralized land, parks and BLM instead of transfer it to the states.
stupid politicians.
bad war decisions (Iraq & Libia)
voter fraud & voter suppression by the establishment.
Health care for all.
Negative, negative, negative

This is utter insanity - watch him continue to drop a conservative issue each week, and not lose any support.

Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2016, 10:45:46 AM
In this case, you read the excuse the author used to hide what was nothing more than a Trump puff piece designed to assuage guilt of idiots in supporting a liberal on the GOP ticket..

I just looked at the original post again,
and realized that I left off the final line of the article,
which is pretty much the payoff for everything above it.

"Respect and listen to and learn from Trump voters
— and they will not vote for Trump."

I don't know how I failed to notice it was missing the first time.

Quote from: je_freedom on April 23, 2016, 09:42:34 AM
I just looked at the original post again,
and realized that I left off the final line of the article,
which is pretty much the payoff for everything above it.

"Respect and listen to and learn from Trump voters
— and they will not vote for Trump."

I don't know how I failed to notice it was missing the first time.

Yeah, the (Single) CYA line, I saw that line of bull as well.
Read between the lines Je, this was a puff piece designed to assuage the guilt of the Trump supporter, with a closing line designed to appease the anti Trump vote.

Seriously, are you really this gullible?

Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2016, 10:30:43 AM
Yeah, the (Single) CYA line, I saw that line of bull as well.
Read between the lines Je, this was a puff piece designed to assuage the guilt of the Trump supporter, with a closing line designed to appease the anti Trump vote.

Seriously, are you really this gullible?

I don't want to keep our horns locked on
whether Victor Davis Hanson is for or against Trump.

I just want to say that it's sad that so many people
are being taken in by Trump's STYLE of opposing the establishment,
and ignoring Cruz, who's really bringing the SUBSTANCE.

I think that what's making Trump successful is his brashness.
He's expressing what people FEEL about the establishment.

Cruz is selling the steak, not the sizzle.
He comes across as being rather bookish.

TV news always shows Trump making brash statements to cheering crowds,
where they usually show Cruz speaking to a few people.

Quote from: je_freedom on April 23, 2016, 11:10:23 AM
I don't want to keep our horns locked on
whether Victor Davis Hanson is for or against Trump.

I just want to say that it's sad that so many people
are being taken in by Trump's STYLE of opposing the establishment,
and ignoring Cruz, who's really bringing the SUBSTANCE.

I think that what's making Trump successful is his brashness.
He's expressing what people FEEL about the establishment.

Cruz is selling the steak, not the sizzle.
He comes across as being rather bookish.

TV news always shows Trump making brash statements to cheering crowds,
where they usually show Cruz speaking to a few people.

Not true.  People supporting Trump aren't "mad at the establishment".  That's ridiculous and has grown stale.  People support Trump the same way students enrolled in Trump University, or the same way an old lady sends back account information to a Nigerian email scammer.  They're easily manipulated and too stupid to understand what they're doing.  The only reason anyone supports Trump is because they fall into that small percentage of the country who are easily taken advantage of.  For example, a person who signs up for Amway is a Trump supporter.  It has nothing to do with "why", or anything that implies the supporter is engaged in any thought.  They see something shiny because they think there's opportunity and they jump on it.

Quote from: taxed on April 23, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
Not true.  People supporting Trump aren't "mad at the establishment".  That's ridiculous and has grown stale.  People support Trump the same way students enrolled in Trump University, or the same way an old lady sends back account information to a Nigerian email scammer.  They're easily manipulated and too stupid to understand what they're doing.  The only reason anyone supports Trump is because they fall into that small percentage of the country who are easily taken advantage of.  For example, a person who signs up for Amway is a Trump supporter.  It has nothing to do with "why", or anything that implies the supporter is engaged in any thought.  They see something shiny because they think there's opportunity and they jump on it.

"they fall into that small percentage of the country who are easily taken advantage of. "

Unfortunately, that percentage is growing as the left succeeds in dumbing down the country.

Quote from: je_freedom on April 23, 2016, 11:10:23 AM
I don't want to keep our horns locked on
whether Victor Davis Hanson is for or against Trump.

I just want to say that it's sad that so many people
are being taken in by Trump's STYLE of opposing the establishment,
and ignoring Cruz, who's really bringing the SUBSTANCE.

I think that what's making Trump successful is his brashness.
He's expressing what people FEEL about the establishment.

Cruz is selling the steak, not the sizzle.
He comes across as being rather bookish.

TV news always shows Trump making brash statements to cheering crowds,
where they usually show Cruz speaking to a few people.

For or against? Hell, he wrote a self loathing apology piece for Trumpaloons to assuage their guilt for backing a lib.
Go back and read that POS again and tell me you can't see the excuses written into every other sentence.

Quote from: taxed on April 23, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
Not true.  People supporting Trump aren't "mad at the establishment".  That's ridiculous and has grown stale.  People support Trump the same way students enrolled in Trump University, or the same way an old lady sends back account information to a Nigerian email scammer.  They're easily manipulated and too stupid to understand what they're doing.  The only reason anyone supports Trump is because they fall into that small percentage of the country who are easily taken advantage of.  For example, a person who signs up for Amway is a Trump supporter.  It has nothing to do with "why", or anything that implies the supporter is engaged in any thought.  They see something shiny because they think there's opportunity and they jump on it.

While I probably shouldn't butt into this love-fest...  I think JE has made a good point (mad at the establishment), and so has Taxed (they are easily suckered) - and so I'll add a missing component.

The Trump supporters are LAZY!

If they used their noggin for just 30 minutes to compare Trump-Cruz-Kasich on the issues, they'd quickly realize Ted Cruz is the best choice.  Victor Davis Hanson is about 5-6 months too late - maybe he slept in?